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Three Arrests In China Over Baidu Post-Deleting Services

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the watch-it-disappear dept.

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twoheadedboy writes "Three employees of Baidu, China's most popular search engine, have been arrested under suspicion of taking bribes. It is alleged that the employees accepted money in exchange for removing negative feedback left on Baidu's forum service. The company had already fired four people for misconduct before three of them were arrested. This so-called 'post-deleting' business is believed to be big in China, even though it is illegal."

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Google+ probably does same (-1, Troll)

h1144 (2702009) | about 2 years ago | (#40896251)

With Google+ removing user accounts without reason, having a very strict real name policy and just being too pushy in general, this will probably be added to their list of "features". Yet they still wonder why Facebook/Microsoft continues to be the best social network on planet.without reason, having a very strict real name policy and just being too pushy in general, this will probably be added to their list of "features". Yet they still wonder why Facebook/Microsoft continues to be the best social network on planet.

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

present_arms (848116) | about 2 years ago | (#40896323)

You are in danger of repeating yourself there, I say you are in danger of repeating yourself there :)

Re:Google+ probably does same (1)

Stargoat (658863) | about 2 years ago | (#40897005)

That's a joke, I say, that's a joke, son. That moderator's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver.

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896337)

Facebook is a privacy-invading pile of noise and shitty games which keeps a dossier on you even years after you "deleted" your account.

Re:Google+ probably does same (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896393)

And Google doesn't? Oh, how naive you are...

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40897231)

You spelled "internet" wrong.

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40902763)

And Google doesn't? Oh, how internet you are...

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40899607)

Was this given the -1 Painful Truth mod?

Don't get me wrong, I use many Google products; however I'd be kidding myself if I were to characterize Google--or any other company whose primary revenue is advertising--as anything but a privacy-invading troll whose product is the end-user.

To this end, they are no different than Facebook or Microsoft. They collect as much information on you as they possibly can, and sell that to the highest bidder in the name of targeted advertising. Why people think that Google wouldn't ever do this is beyond me.

Re:Google+ probably does same (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896359)

First post from newly registered user. Nope not suspicious at all

Re:Google+ probably does same (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896505)

Of course not! And certainly not from a username consisting of an 'h' and an arbitrary set of four numbers after it! And ESPECIALLY not when they're talking about things like the real name policy, which have been quite a bit relaxed for months now!

That most obviously doesn't sound like a shill for a company coming in late to the party again!

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40900811)

And certainly not from a username consisting of an 'h' and an arbitrary set of four numbers after it!

Arbitrary?! That's his birthday damn it. User h1144 was born in November, 1944. That makes him a hairy grandfather with far too much time in his hands.

Re:Google+ probably does same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40897265)

How much do I need to Paypal a slashdot admin to get h1144's facepalmingly bad post deleted?

Job Security (2)

headhot (137860) | about 2 years ago | (#40896329)

They were immediately hired by the Chinese State internet filtering unit.

Re:Job Security (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#40896749)

They were immediately hired by the Chinese State internet filtering unit.

"Hired"... nice euphemism

Yelp? (1)

HaeMaker (221642) | about 2 years ago | (#40896485)

So if Yelp [pixsym.com] were Chinese they'd be arrested?

Private Enterprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896545)

At least in China someone gets paid for the work. In the west, companies have to do this for free if you send them a DMCA complaint.

That's ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40896547)

PRC's got nothing to hide.
Tiananmen Square is lovely at this time of the year, by the way.

Who can blame them? (-1, Flamebait)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 2 years ago | (#40896559)

In Chinese culture, there is you (and by extension, your family, your classmates [you have the same school class from kindergarten until graduation], and to a lesser extent your friends), and then there is The Other. You see, when Confucius defined the five major relationships, he forgot to include people you don't know. There is no equivalent to Christianity's "do unto others as you would have them do unto yourself" in China. So, why the hell care what your employer is paying you to do? Even if you get fired, you've still made enough money from bribes to fund your whole family for a generation. What, like Baidu's measly salary demands some sort of loyalty or something? Chinese employees feel about as much loyalty to their employers as welfare recipients feel loyalty to the US government. Sure, you get a tiny amount of cash but you KNOW you're worth much more than that. So, why not play the system for all it's worth? I've been there, done that, got the merit badge.

This problem is especially prevalent with men in China. Women are much less likely to cheat you. Men have to buy an apartment before they can get married, and what, your company's ethical statement that he signed is going to stop him from taking every step he can to achieve that goal? Nah, better to stay single all his life and never marry. Let's see...choice between "keep my word to some fuckwit corporate master" or "buy an apartment and be thought of as a worthy man in the minds of my girlfriend's parents." Hmmm...if you were a Chinese man making $500/month working for Baidu, which one would you choose?

Re:Who can blame them? (1)

InfiniteZero (587028) | about 2 years ago | (#40897501)

In There is no equivalent to Christianity's "do unto others as you would have them do unto yourself" in China. So, why the hell care what your employer is paying you to do?

Right, the West is so different. That explains our wonderful state of economy.

The word is "empthy", look it up. It's something universal to all humans.

Re:Who can blame them? (1)

InfiniteZero (587028) | about 2 years ago | (#40897531)

"Empathy", that is. Note to self: preview is your friend.

Re:Who can blame them? (1)

RabidReindeer (2625839) | about 2 years ago | (#40897675)

In There is no equivalent to Christianity's "do unto others as you would have them do unto yourself" in China. So, why the hell care what your employer is paying you to do?

Right, the West is so different. That explains our wonderful state of economy.

The word is "empthy", look it up. It's something universal to all humans.

Actually, isn't the very definition of psychopath "someone who lacks empathy"?

Re:Who can blame them? (1)

InfiniteZero (587028) | about 2 years ago | (#40897765)

I see your point. It's universal in the sense that two arms and two legs are universal to all humans, amputees and people born with deformity notwithstanding.

Re:Who can blame them? (-1, Flamebait)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 2 years ago | (#40897821)

Yeah, typical. Express inconvenient truth, get modded down to -1 flamebait. Sigh.

Re:Who can blame them? (3, Informative)

Opyros (1153335) | about 2 years ago | (#40897961)

You see, when Confucius defined the five major relationships, he forgot to include people you don't know. There is no equivalent to Christianity's "do unto others as you would have them do unto yourself" in China.

What's this, then? [wikipedia.org]

Re:Who can blame them? (-1, Troll)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about 2 years ago | (#40898085)

I see we have no conception of how China works. This is very common among people who use Wikipedia (written by Westerners in English) for a reference. It's like quoting the Bible's Song of Solomon to justify pedophilia.

Re:Who can blame them? (1)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#40898081)

Let's see...choice between "keep my word to some fuckwit corporate master" or "buy an apartment and be thought of as a worthy man in the minds of my girlfriend's parents."

Not entirely different from the choices we force Americans to make.

Re:Who can blame them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40898665)

look, it's a big pile of white people lies.

Arrested for Bribery? (1)

doubleplusungodly (1929514) | about 2 years ago | (#40896747)

People in China being arrested for bribery? Sounds like they didn't bribe the police enough.

you Fa1l It (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40897061)

track of where Users all Over the Good manners Lay down paper towels on the floor

I guess ... (1)

DaMattster (977781) | about 2 years ago | (#40897627)

Then it is off to the Labour Camps! In Communist China, guilt is presumed :(

Government vs. the People's Republic of China (1)

SlashDev (627697) | about 2 years ago | (#40897689)

So the Government can confiscate & delete but not the people, nooooww I get it...

Re:Government vs. the People's Republic of China (1)

thoughtsatthemoment (1687848) | about 2 years ago | (#40901819)

It is about bribery. When the government gets bribery, it is called lobbying. But if people bribe each other, they would forget to bribe the government. By the definition of "confiscate ", yes, only the government can do it.

"even though it is illegal"... (1)

ravenspear (756059) | about 2 years ago | (#40898377)

Except when the government is doing it.

First post. (1)

formfeed (703859) | about 2 years ago | (#40900121)

..well, a repost of my earlier first post.
Someone took it down.

Have you lived in China (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40902347)

This is nothing new - it's a show from the Ministry of Information.

As an ex-pat who owns a company out here doing marketing over social media and digital, you have to 1) register anything .cn ( not just GoDaddy your site) you got to _register_ it in person ... stamps go on a lot of paperwork 2) Every social media outlet is required to allow the government to take over at any minute *literally 3) This is a farce, not a story : it's a way to let people know there's some sort of regulation going on by the Ministry of Information who is slowly trying to de-regulate to instill confidence in a growing population.

Europeans and Americans would argue something around free speech. En-masse in China the people just take it as what it is. 3 people taking bribes is like 3 people shaking hands with somebody. The entirety of business in this country is about giving "handshakes" so 3 random people? More like anybody you want to do business with.

Again, it's easy to look from the outside, but it's a complex world out there and it's worth knowing what you're talking about before commenting. It's easy to comment, it's hard to know.

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