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Thin Mini-ITX Platform Enables DIY iMacs

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the computer-from-concentrate dept.

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crookedvulture writes "Shipments of all-in-one PCs are growing exponentially faster than those for typical desktops. Unfortunately, highly integrated systems like the iMac have traditionally made it difficult to replace or upgrade parts. And forget about assembling an all-in-one for yourself. Now, however, Intel has developed a Thin Mini-ITX platform that allows system builders and end users to put together all-in-one systems with standard parts. This hands-on look at Thin Mini-ITX pieces together an ersatz iMac using off-the-shelf components, and the process is pretty easy. While the end result isn't quite as slick as one of Apple's creations, parts can be swapped out with ease, and the configuration can be tailored to suit one's needs."

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You can't do that! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908205)

You're advocating violating the OS X EULA!
Heresy!!!

Re:You can't do that! (3, Informative)

Theoden (121862) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908239)

You're advocating violating the OS X EULA!
Heresy!!!

Pretty positive TFA is about building an all-in-one similar to an iMac, not installing OS X. :P

Re:You can't do that! (4, Informative)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909135)

Pretty positive TFA is about building an all-in-one similar to an iMac, not installing OS X. :P

Then it's hardly an iMac, now is it? You might as well say your Linux desktop is a Mac. If it's not running Windows it's not a Windows computer, if it's not running Linux it's not a Linux computer, and if it's not running OSX it's not an iMac.

A computer is a lot more than just hardware.

Re:You can't do that! (3, Informative)

imagined.by (2589739) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908251)

Which is legal in a lot of countries! For example Europe!

Re:You can't do that! (0, Redundant)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908265)

Europe is a continent, not a country. You could have suggested as an example the nations found on that continent.

Re:You can't do that! (1)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908295)

your right, he meant the EU.

Re:You can't do that! (0, Redundant)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908427)

Again, not a country, its several.

Re:You can't do that! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908557)

I think imagined.by meant:
Which is legal in a lot of countries! For example all the countries in Europe!

Re:You can't do that! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909289)

Including Belarus, the last bastion of True and Total Freedom?

Re:You can't do that! (2)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908517)

I can understand the error. With each passing year the EU is looking more like a single, united country than even the U.S. country.
Just last week I read the UK has to "ask permission" before they can rollout rural broadband expansion. Even U.S. states do not need to do that. They just do it.

Re:You can't do that! (1)

PRMan (959735) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908603)

rural broadband expansion... They just do it.

Link? As far as I know, they have all taken money for it, but has anyone actually done it?

Re:You can't do that! (1)

imagined.by (2589739) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908701)

EU law mostly supercedes country law.

Re:You can't do that! (1)

ganjadude (952775) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908727)

when did the US start doing that? last I checked our broadband is pitiful compared to other countries.

Re:You can't do that! (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908875)

Even U.S. states do not need to do that.

Actually they do need 'permission' from the private telecom industry. Otherwise they'll have laws passed to prohibit state run services.

Re:You can't do that! (3, Insightful)

joh (27088) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909273)

Just last week I read the UK has to "ask permission" before they can rollout rural broadband expansion.

These things are heavily regulated in the EU. Seems a pretty good way of dealing with this, since broadband (and this is *real* broadband) seems to be much cheaper and competitive in the EU than in the US. I'm paying 20 Euros a month for 50 Gbit with unlimited traffic and a flat landline and I can choose between half a dozen suppliers. What about you?

Even U.S. states do not need to do that. They just do it.

You surly meant to say "they just don't", I guess.

Re:You can't do that! (5, Insightful)

imamac (1083405) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908261)

It didn't look like they were talking about installing OS X on it. But, it does use the Intel DH61AG motherboard, which is easily used for a hackintosh.

Re:You can't do that! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908317)

They'll smoke a turd in Hell once Father Steve hears of this!

Why? (0, Flamebait)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908229)

We got in a 27" iMac at my college and because Steve Jobs liked to cram everything into an impossibly small box and didn't like fans, it didn't work so well. It shut itself down an average of 3 times per class period due to overheating and they got rid of it after a week. So, why exactly would I want to make the same mistake with my build? Also,

highly integrated systems like the iMac have traditionally made it difficult to replace or upgrade parts

Yeah! I can just about park my car inside my Coolermaster Centurion, thank you.

Re:Why? (2)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908311)

It has a fan...
You might want to have that looked at... LOL

Re:Why? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908339)

I've had a 27" iMac running at home powered on 24/7 for over two years now. It has never shut itself off due to over heating.

I'm guessing you either got a faulty unit or your school room is a pig sty or you're lying.

Re:Why? (-1)

imagined.by (2589739) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908399)

But it doesn't matter, since its a negative comment on Apple it will get upvoted anyways.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909017)

You're either new here or just an idiot.

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909305)

looks at his UID

looks like he is both.

Re:Why? (2)

ilsaloving (1534307) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908343)

Sounds like you may have had a faulty device then. Either that, or your environment was generally too hot for the work you were doing on it.

I got one for my mom, and we have several in the office. Not once has anyone ever reported such an issue.

Re:Why? (5, Funny)

zerro (1820876) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909231)

ahh yes - you were holding it wrong!

Re:Why? (2)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909547)

ahh yes - you were holding it wrong!

I know you're trolling, but... umm... yes?

In the years of iMac use I have had, even taxing the thing a high CPU load for long periods during the summer (and I have no AC) the fans have barely ever ramped up enough to hear them.

If he had an iMac that was overheating "an average of 3 times per class period" then it was either faulty or installed inside an oven, or inside a case that restricted airflow to the heatsinks (not a problem unique to the iMac).

Re:Why? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908383)

Most people I know who have bought iMacs have done so because they were the cheapest desktop Macs available (and they wanted both a desktop and OS X). When the Mac Mini was introduced, this was still often the case if they didn't already have a display to use. It's also fairly popular with the 'we can afford to by Macs for our secretaries' demographic for machines in visible positions, but it never seemed like a particularly practical form factor. Other companies have launched all-in-one machines before, but none has been a commercial success, and I'd have expected it to be if there were a real demand for them.

Marketing this as the self-build crowd seems especially weird, as self-builders tend to either want expandability or something that they can't get from an OEM, and this form factor is weak in both. There are already a lot of nice Mini ITX HTPC cases, and they let you upgrade the monitor separately from the rest of the machine, if you want to...

Re:Why? (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908421)

Say what?

Both my high school and college used a large number of iMacs. I don't think one ever overheated on me, in the six years we had them. And we did some decently-power-hungry things with them (I once tried to compute the XKCD number on one - long story short, it didn't work).

Now, there was a problem in one lab, where running all of them at once at full brightness would trip the breaker for the room, but that's a building power fault, not a computer power fault.

Which generation was it that you used? All of the ones I've used were post-Intel ones, and I've heard the G4/G5 iMacs were terrible at heat management - I know the G5 Power Macs the graphics department had generated more heat than the server room.

Re:Why? (3, Insightful)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908465)

Why do people automatically assume ONE bad device == all such devices are bad? It's called "birth mortality". When a device is not properly assembled and dies early (or other serious flaws). Just because 1 Mac suffered birth defects does not mean the other 100,000 Macs were bad. Your school should have simply traded the bad Mac for a good Mac.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908833)

Why do people automatically assume ONE bad device == all such devices are bad?

Your use of the comparison operator "==" here is incorrect. You are performing an assignment and should use simply "=".

You've been charged with the knowledge. Go and sin no more.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909357)

No, cpu6502's use of the "==" comparison operator was *quite* correct, though it would *also* have been correct (with a slightly different context) written with the "=" assignment operator.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909439)

No, cpu6502's use of the "==" comparison operator was *quite* correct, though it would *also* have been correct (with a slightly different context) written with the "=" assignment operator.

Dear AC, I challenge you to a match of intellectual fisticuffs.

Why do people automatically assume ONE bad device == all such devices are bad?

The "people" in cpu6502's anecdote aren't testing for equality. They are assuming equality as a matter of fact which is an explicit assignment.

You have been told. Good day, sir!

Re:Why? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909205)

It's pretty hard to tell how many were bad with Apple for any product. They more or less cover-up all of their product flaws. They even go as far as deleting community forum threads to avoid acknowledging a problem.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909403)

Actually, it's easier to tell how many were bad with Apple than with most computer brands. Having 7 or so distinct models of computer each year makes 'bad units' easier to track than having 40+ 'distinct' models. Especially when those 'distinct' models (which largely share a mix components across a variety of supposedly disparate lines) have more component variance *within* the line than between similar, but 'different', lines.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909577)

>ONE bad device == all such devices are bad?

One bad device might mean that their QC isn't good. If that happens often enough, means that their design had not leave enough margins to cover full operating range & device to device variations.

Re:Why? (1, Informative)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908469)

Clearly your experience is typical of iMac use which is why the sell so well, they must all be broken like ONE that you've seen.

Why do people like yourself make such retarded statements about one trivial experience as if its the norm?

Just curious as to why no one at your college was smart enough to have it replaced since you know, it has a warranty and all. Sounds like you went a college full of people too stupid to return a defective product, which leads me to believe theres more to this story than you're telling us.

I have no doubt you had a broken iMac ... but your response just makes you sound like a moron.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908883)

Clown College [wikipedia.org] , perhaps [wordpress.com] ?

Re:Why? (5, Funny)

91degrees (207121) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908515)

Yeah. Overheating is a problem with fanless macs. Sometimes you can prevent this by flipping it upsidedown from time to time and giving the components at the top time to cool.

This technique is called the Hot Apple Turnover.

Re:Why? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908549)

I currently work at a location with 41 27" iMacs, and I used to work at an authorized repair depot for apple. I have repaired and handled MANY of these machines, and I can tell you they don't "shut down due to overheating". They will clock themselves down to a point where the machine is excruciatingly slow, but the aluminum back of the machine will act as a large enough heatsink to keep the processor cool at whatever speed it clocks down to (probably something like 200mhz judging by the slowdown).

There are three components that would likely cause the symptoms that you describe:

1. DC/SATA Cable - on early 27" (and some 21.5") iMacs, these would short out somewhere along the cable and cause all sorts of shutdown and sleep issues. It was a bitch to fix but generally the first part we would replace if we couldn't determine the cause of a problem.

2. Power supply - Even someone as simple-minded as you would probably understand how a faulty power supply could cause this issue - not "Steve Jobs hating fans".

3. Display Inverter Board - The inverter board on early 27" units would fail regularly, causing the screen to go black, and making standard luddite users think the whole machine powered off.

Steve Jobs did not hate fans. Steve Jobs hated loud and obtrusive fans. The 24 and 27" cinema/thunderbolt displays contain fans, and every iBook, PowerBook, and MacBook (including the air) has had at least 1 fan (the 15" before late 2009 and 17" up until they cancelled it had 2).

Get your facts straight, your single anecdotal story != true for every iMac.

Re:Why? (2)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908765)

I think Steve Jobs must have loved fans judging by the jet engine I call a 2010 unibody macbook pro on my desk.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909245)

Ok, so his Mac didn't fail due to overheating, but for any of the numerous reasons you listed. You've just multiplied the number of issues Macs have. With all of those problems, they're dying left and right. Unreliable piles of shit, just like everything made by Apple.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909457)

Every brand of computer has issues like this, and repair-folks will have seen quite a few examples of each one if they handle a statistically significant number of systems of any brand. The question is how *common* they are. Apple systems, according to many studies, rank *consistently* among the top 2-3 brands in reliability (despite the Internet echo-chamber effect), and usually tops for customer satisfaction. That would indicate that your last two sentences are, in fact, both false.

Re:Why? (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909579)

Should you use the disk drive there is a good chance you will not get the disk back.

exponentially faster??! (5, Insightful)

doti (966971) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908259)

are growing exponentially faster than

you keep using that expression... it does not mean what you think it does

Re:exponentially faster??! (2)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908403)

I know that ITX cases almost always have fans. I just threw that in there because Steve Jobs made the same mistake in like 1982 as he did in 2011 with style over function causing severe overheating problems.

Re:exponentially faster??! (2)

VortexCortex (1117377) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908639)

are growing exponentially faster than

you keep using that expression... it does not mean what you think it does

Introducing: FRACTIONAL EXPONENTS! Try our patented Zero over ONE!!!1!!

Also try our small line of negative exponents.

Re:exponentially faster??! (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908747)

If the quantity (sales of product X) / (sales of product Y), plotted over time, forms an exponential growth curve, it seems entirely reasonable to say that "sales of X are growing exponentially faster than sales of Y." Note that I have no idea if that's the case for this particular example, just noting that the phrase itself isn't inherently unreasonable.

Re:exponentially faster??! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908851)

OFFS. The quote you are butchering:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Inconceivable! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908895)

Don't pester him. He's had a hard day.

Re:Inconceivable! (1)

bigredradio (631970) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909569)

He's really very short on... charm!

No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (0)

Kenja (541830) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908277)

Its just a PC running OSX against the terms of use. Nothing wrong with that, but its not a "Macintosh" anymore then a kit car is a Ferrari.

Re:No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (3, Informative)

imamac (1083405) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908299)

The article is about a similar form factor to an iMac, not running OS X.

Re:No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908439)

Hey, now. In 2005 slashdotters didn't read TFA. Today, nobody reads the summary past the title before commenting! Welcome to the new normal.

Re:No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (2)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908365)

If you believe this, then you believe that Apple stopped making Macs in 2006, because no Intel Mac uses Open Firmware; the use the Extensible Firmware Interface instead.

Re:No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (0)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908595)

If it looks like a Mac and quacks like a Mac and runs OS X like a Mac, it's a Mac. So where would I go to buy one of these Hackintosh PCs? I'd like to try OS 10.8 but don't want to spend $600 to do it. (And besides: an i5 Mac at 2 GHz is sloooow.)

Re:No OpenFirmware, no Mac. (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909595)

You can't buy one at retail with the OS, as Apple has somehow managed to make the right of resale illegal due to EULA, even though other software makers have had opposite court rulings. Or at least nobody's been brave enough to try since Psystar's minor goofs that Apple did find tiny licensing issues with.

These days if you want to be as legal as possible, you still have to find a retail copy of Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6) as the only place to buy it is now in the App Store within OS X.

Lifehacker has a number of good guides on what parts to get and what chipsets to avoid. It's really not hard at all to put together compatible hardware now that there are boot loaders like Chameleon or Chimera.

You then have to update to the later version of Snow Leopard to get the App store, and then buy Mountain Lion in the App Store. They figure if you can't buy it without owning a Mac first, you can't legally make a Hackintosh. And they buy back old Snow Leopard discs - they don't want them on retail shelves.

MobileMe was giving out a free copy of Snow Leopard to any user who logged in with a special link just before they closed their doors. I logged into several accounts and stocked up on copies for myself.

Kinda like a kit-car lamborghini (2)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908281)

This is kinda like a kit-car Lamborghini set that people like to put together. Now you too can have a lamborghini, with a chevy V8 on a chevy frame!

Re:Kinda like a kit-car lamborghini (2)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908623)

Gutting older Jaguars and installing Chevy V8's is fairly common actually. It's a reliability thing.

Re:Kinda like a kit-car lamborghini (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908925)

That's a FACT. As a kid my dad owned a diesel repair shop and one of the other repair shops in our "center" worked on Jags all the time and that was a very common replacement. Thanks to that I also know to never buy an old Jag, or at least the XJ-6, because they tended to have the floorboards rot out.

Slick, huh? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908289)

While the end result isn't quite as overpriced as one of Apple's creations

FTFY

Not Hackintosh/OSX86 (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908303)

They aren't talking about building Hackintoshes here, just DIY PC-in-a-monitor.

isn't quite as slick as one of Apple's creations (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908319)

i.e. it won't cost 3 times more than it should.

the cost is in the monitor (2)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908325)

i don't have an imac but i've ready that apple uses very high quality displays for them and that dell sells a similar monitor for $800 or so

sure you can build something cheaper, but you aren't saving anything if you cheapen out on the monitor

Re:the cost is in the monitor (2)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908429)

You're right... it's kinda like people painting their impala with a certain design and saying they have a dale earnhardt sr racecar.

Re:the cost is in the monitor (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908739)

A 1920x1080 video is a 1920x1080 video. The video won't look any better just because you up the monitor resolution higher than those specs.

Re:the cost is in the monitor (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908959)

Which is fine if all you ever do is watch videos. Some people like to do other things with their computers. Don't even get me started on the problem with widescreen monitors in general. Very few monitors can be flipped on their side, even though that's their most useful orientation for a lot of tasks.

Re:the cost is in the monitor (2)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909607)

A 6-bit TN panel is not as good as a 10-bit IPS panel. It's about color quality, and ability to calibrate to get a nice picture.

Competition is a good thing. (2)

danaris (525051) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908329)

Let's hope that some of the major retail PC makers pick up on this, and start making their own.

I love Apple, but I'd also love to see some competition out there for them in areas like this, to ensure that they always have a good reason to be keeping one step ahead. ;-D

Dan Aris

Re:Competition is a good thing. (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908433)

Acer made a shockingly similar one several years ago but with an Atom chip (so no overheating problems, lol) and it was slow, the touchscreen was sluggish, and overall it sucked lol.

Re:Competition is a good thing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908599)

lol

Re:Competition is a good thing. (3, Informative)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908447)

Vizio just came out with one. Looks pretty nice too [vizio.com]

Re:Competition is a good thing. (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909585)

Am I the only one suspecting that the delay in the iMac lineup may be the result of Apple responding to something like this by revamping the entire line so that the sorts of things possible with this thin ITX board seem trivial in comparison?

Nicely done (-1, Offtopic)

kyrio (1091003) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908357)

Make a product that's as big as, and probably still costs much less than an Apple product, and make a fortune selling it to people who want Apple products but can't afford them.

On an unrelated note, why is it that I can post 50 comments that are modded up or just stay at 1 (assuming unmodded), yet a single post that's marked as a troll, by butthurt people, knocks my "excellent" karma down to "good", seemingly permanently?

Re:Nicely done (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908457)

They do seem to cap the upper limit at a VERY low level. You can't just skyrocket it then post offensive stuff with the padding, lol. I don't know if it's variable or not but this new account (lol) seems to have a lot more padding against hater mod-downs than my old one.

Re:Nicely done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909161)

you seems to be laughing quite a bit today. Enjoying yourself?

Re:Nicely done (2)

Spy Handler (822350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908551)

Weird, i made 3 posts that became -1 (troll) in within the past week and my karma's still excellent. Maybe your cumulative karma was just barely in the excellent range and the one troll was enough to knock you down?

Slashdot works in mysterious ways...

Re:Nicely done (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908713)

I went on a tear a few months ago and got something like 30 -1 flamebait/troll posts in a day and my karma went to terrible. Got 3 +5s a couple of days later and was back to good then got a couple of small upmods and was back to excellent. I've had a good past few days so this is probably a good time for me to let a couple of people have it. :)

Re:Nicely done (1)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909011)

Karma is overrated.

Re:Nicely done (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909285)

There have been several all-in-ones made by various PC manufacturers. My friend had an HP with a touchscreen that he hung on the wall in the kitchen.

None of them have really been successful. They tend to either cost as much as an iMac or be compromised in some way. Intel releasing a new form factor isn't going to do much to change anything, except to let individuals and mom and pop shops build them.

Fake Mac running a fake OS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908375)

The picture showed Windows 8. Go figure.

Forget iMac clones... (1)

ilsaloving (1534307) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908401)

This could be WAY bigger than just making iMac clones. Combine that with the new video hardware coming onto the market that permits greater than 1080p resolution displays, and that this new form factor could be made dirt cheap, this could usher in the era of interactive wallscreen devices.

I always figured it would be great to have some cheap tablets mounted into walls for various applications, for example, being able to quickly check the weather report before heading out the door. But something like this would be even cooler.

Re:Forget iMac clones... (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908577)

I've yet to find a nice small form factor PC that supports any sort of high end graphics (3D gaming/rendering... not video). Most of the SFF machines have built in crappy video cards and/or have no PCI-Express slot capability. It would be nice to have a motherboard with the ability to plug in a graphics card on the edge parallell to the mainboard itself. Unfortunately, the way the cards are designed, the heatsink would be under the plane of the motherboard unless the PCI-Express slot was moved to the other side of the CPU or a GPU with all it's components on the inverse side.

The only way I've found around that is to install a riser with a 90 degree bracket (Example [amazon.com] ) but these require that the board have a PCI-Express slot to begin with and most likely a custom mounting solution.

Nice (2)

StripedCow (776465) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908419)

Nice to see Apple losing their prime advantage: looks.

Now we just have to wait until Intel comes with DIY phones.

Re:Nice (1)

royallthefourth (1564389) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909065)

It's not just about looks; it's about desk space and portability. I'd be far more inclined to try putting my computer and desk in a new location if it wasn't such a pain in the ass to move.

Are all in one desktops now all known as iMacs? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908435)

WTF does this have to do with iMacs?

Re:Are all in one desktops now all known as iMacs? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908461)

Stupid people continue to think Apple invented the ideas that they actually stole.

Re:Are all in one desktops now all known as iMacs? (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908787)

I'm not an Apple apologist but was anybody doing anything that could really be compared to a modern all-in-one before this [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Are all in one desktops now all known as iMacs? (3, Informative)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908991)

Yes, the Commodore PET [wikipedia.org] was 7 years earlier.

Re:Are all in one desktops now all known as iMacs? (1)

oakgrove (845019) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909141)

Heh. Figures I'd miss something. That screen looks like it'd be pretty easy to detach though.

MAFIAA logic (3, Insightful)

firesyde424 (1127527) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908437)

[sarcasm] Breaking news: Intel sued by Apple for patent infringement. Apple has sued CPU manufacturer Intel claiming infringement of their patent on the design of small, compact, all-in-one devices that can run OSX. Apple filed the lawsuit in a federal court located in western Texas. They are asking for an injunction against Intel as well as an award of $5,000 for each device sold by Intel. Apple has claimed that the only reason people buy something other than an Apple device is because they can and therefore every sale of these devices by Intel represents a lost sale for Apple. [/sarcasm]

Ugly with a capital U (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908567)

That desktop in the article is some hideous looking shit. What crap OEM plastered that fisher-price shit all over Windows?

Re:Ugly with a capital U (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909201)

Isn't that what Metro looks like?

Re:Ugly with a capital U (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909301)

Isn't that what Metro looks like?

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Re:Ugly with a capital U (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909375)

He told a joke so great it's in outer space?

Re:Ugly with a capital U (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909561)

Whoosh!!!

That's the sound of the entire thread flying over your head. Waaaay over your head.

but but but (0)

biodata (1981610) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908759)

it's rounded rectangles!

No graphics (1)

edxwelch (600979) | more than 2 years ago | (#40908769)

The idea looked good... until I saw that you can't install a graphics card. That's the one thing that these all-in-ones lack - decient graphics. Considering there are laptops with gtx 680, I don't see why we can have them in an all-in-one

Re:No graphics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40909589)

The Gigabyte GB-AEGT accepts a full height double slot graphics card with up to 400W of power.

Not Hackintosh/OSX86 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40908801)

They aren't talking about building hackintoshes here, just building PCs into the monitor, i.e. the form factor of an iMac.

Ersatz (1)

tylersoze (789256) | more than 2 years ago | (#40909089)

"Made in imitation; artificial, especially of an inferior quality."

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