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SCO Group Files For Chapter 7

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the it-just-goes-on-and-on-my-friends dept.

Caldera 190

New submitter rkhalloran writes "The remnants of the failed litigation engine that was the SCO Group has finally filed for liquidation under Chapter 7 of the bankruptcy code. 'There is no reasonable chance of "rehabilitation."' Groklaw describes the recent filing (PDF) thus: 'I will try my best to translate the legalese for you: the money is almost all gone, so it's not fun any more. SCO can't afford Chapter 11. We want to shut the costs down, because we'll never get paid. But it'd look stupid to admit the whole thing was ridiculous and SCO never had a chance to reorganize through its fantasy litigation hustle. Besides, Ralph Yarro and the other shareholders might sue. So they want the litigation to continue to swing in the breeze, just in case. But SCO has no money coming in and no other prospects, so they want to proceed in a cheaper way and shut this down in respects to everything else.' I guess that means the lawyers will suck the marrow from the carcass and leave the bones to bleach out in the sun."

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190 comments

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Re:Fund muh gaem! (-1, Offtopic)

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Can we sue Ralph Yarro for trolling ? (0, Offtopic)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 2 years ago | (#40914249)

Ralph Yarro and other SCO shareholders had caused the Linux communities a lot of headaches for the past decade or so

We all know that they had no case, (with encouragement from M$), they filed baseless lawsuits suing almost every business entity in the Linux sphere

Is there a way for us to sue those fuckers, including Ralph Yarro, back?

They've made our lives hell, and it's only justice that we made their lives fucking hell in return
 

good riddance (5, Insightful)

gmack (197796) | about 2 years ago | (#40911529)

Hopefully this will be a lesson to other companies who compete using lawsuits rather than customer service.

Re:good riddance (1)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#40911629)

Good riddance

Maybe not quite yet... Someone could buy the portfolio, no?

Re:good riddance (2, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#40911733)

Good riddance

Maybe not quite yet... Someone could buy the portfolio, no?

ONOS! Not teh Micorsfots!

Honestly, I think they have enough on their plate, trying to head off Andriod and iOS. More money into research and do some skull cracking of those departments who refuse to work together (read: support their employer, rather then empire building) and Microsoft could have a chance .. in a few years.

Re:good riddance (5, Interesting)

postbigbang (761081) | about 2 years ago | (#40912337)

They're making scandalous sums in royalties from Linux and Android. What do they care, now that the IP litigation is impossible? For Microsoft, this is Profit: stand up you PC and Phone Makers: On the left, is the $$ you'll pay for using Linux (so you won't get sued) and on the right is the $$ you'll pay for integrating that Android Stuff.

And if you think we were fooling, here's our RT tablet. Open the wallets or die! That's the mantra.

Re:good riddance (2)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40913991)

If they're making scandalous sums off of android and Linux that just means android and Linux are worth scandalous sums of money and then some. It legitimizes the platforms just that much more. Patents run out so the racket can't last forever and when it's over Linux will still be there. How much are they making off of windows phone again?

Re:good riddance (4, Insightful)

FireFury03 (653718) | about 2 years ago | (#40915405)

If they're making scandalous sums off of android and Linux that just means android and Linux are worth scandalous sums of money and then some. It legitimizes the platforms just that much more. Patents run out so the racket can't last forever and when it's over Linux will still be there. How much are they making off of windows phone again?

By the time the patents have run out they will be obsolete and will have been replaced with something else that MS is claiming they own. The problem isn't that Linux might be infringing MS patents, its that MS will never tell anyone what those patents are to give Linux a fighting chance of avoiding infringement. Someone needs to call MS's bluff and go to court over this so the patents get exposed. Companies that threaten alledged infringers but won't say what is being infringed really should have to forefit those patents.

Re:good riddance (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 2 years ago | (#40912207)

I'm a little surprised that IBM didn't buy their portfolio a long time ago. Unless they were waiting for the price to go down. Come to think of it, it probably has.

Re:good riddance (1)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40914027)

Probably amused them more just to bleed them dry in court. IBM's patents have patents so I doubt they give a shit about a toy company like Santa Cruz Operations.

Re:good riddance (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#40915165)

Yo dawg, we heard u liek patents so we put a patent in your patent so you can sue while you sue.

Re:good riddance (4, Informative)

whoever57 (658626) | about 2 years ago | (#40914323)

I'm a little surprised that IBM didn't buy their portfolio a long time ago.

Portfolio of what? A jury decided that Novell owned the old Unix copyrights and SCO only had one patent.

Re:good riddance (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#40913839)

Maybe not quite yet... Someone could buy the portfolio, no?

A portfolio of what? Unsubstantiated lawsuits? I thought people usually buy assets.

Re:good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40913919)

From wikipedia:
"On April 9, 2010 [Darl] McBride purchased the SCO Mobility intellectual property from The SCO Group for $100,000.
The company is now known as Me Inc. and as of June 10, 2011, McBride is President and CEO"

Re:good riddance (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#40914565)

What intellectual property could they possibly have, except for the trademark and an old OS that nobody cares anymore?

Re:good riddance (1)

jaymemaurice (2024752) | about 2 years ago | (#40915409)

Does it matter? The guy is the President and CEO of Me Inc. and owns the SCO Mobility intellectual property. I bet the guy puts that on his linked in, personal website, email signature etc. For $100,000 that is some cheap fun designer bragging rights.

Re:good riddance (1)

UltraZelda64 (2309504) | about 2 years ago | (#40914843)

Exactly. The bastards have been going on for, how long now? Even after they were supposedly believed to be shut down for good? It's not that easy for a company, even as worthless as SCO, to go down. They might still linger... but hopefully they don't.

Re:good riddance (2)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | about 2 years ago | (#40912035)

Well, Apple has that lawsuit going on right now... so I don't think they've learned any lessons from this yet.

Re:good riddance (1, Insightful)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 2 years ago | (#40914363)

Well, Apple has that lawsuit going on right now... so I don't think they've learned any lessons from this yet.

Well, Apple does have more of a case with the rounded corners thing than SCO had with it's 'stolen' source code...

Re:good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40912159)

Hopefully this will be a lesson to other companies who compete using lawsuits rather than customer service.

Yup, this was an extremely successful campaign to keep everyone tied up in litigation.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Re:good riddance (5, Interesting)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#40912275)

Not really. One of the lawyers sucking the marrow from the bones was Darl's brother.
It's like deliberately crashing the company car into a wall so your family's repair business can get some work.

Re:good riddance (2)

couchslug (175151) | about 2 years ago | (#40913585)

"Hopefully this will be a lesson to other companies who compete using lawsuits rather than customer service."

Companies are expendable paper constructs which can be and are blithely created and destroyed. They are "game characters".

Re:good riddance (2)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#40913905)

Yeah, that'll teach you, other companies. Frivolous copyright litigation will lead to bankruptcy. A decade later. Maybe.

Re:good riddance (3, Interesting)

Quila (201335) | about 2 years ago | (#40914169)

Not really. Those in charge get to skate with their money. They're free to try it again with another company.

What they need in this case is piercing of the corporate veil. Those who started this, and cost other companies so many millions of dollars in this bad-faith fraud, need to be held personally accountable.

Re:good riddance (1)

whoever57 (658626) | about 2 years ago | (#40914351)

Not really. Those in charge get to skate with their money. They're free to try it again with another company.

Darl managed to lose all or most of what he got from SCO, I think his house was foreclosed on some time after he lost his job at SCO.

Re:good riddance (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40914597)

Unfortunately, the executives got paid for most of it's lifetime. They just proved that while not a plausible way to run a business, it is a plausible way to make money.

Re:good riddance (1)

bender183 (447302) | about 2 years ago | (#40915309)

ha! good riddance is _exactly_ what I said when I read the headline of this story. I guess they ran out of money to pay lawyers. What a shame.

... and on this day... (4, Interesting)

logicassasin (318009) | about 2 years ago | (#40911535)

... not a single f_ck was given.

SCO got on the shitlist of many a person and corporate entity with their senseless trolling. I'm surprised that it took this long for them to finally hit rock bottom.

Re:... and on this day... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40912751)

... not a single f_ck was given.

SCO got on the shitlist of many a person and corporate entity with their senseless trolling. I'm surprised that it took this long for them to finally hit rock bottom.

The reason why it took so long was the huge injection from BayStar and the cash train from Redmond. If you know anything about what really went on just look into how and why Novell/Suse is surviving this nonsense. Fact is the real target of all this crap was RedHat and the server side of Linux and the main antagonist was and still is Microsoft.

  Sco was just a fishing and fud throwing expedition and to a large extent it succeeded. Windows has gained server market share because of all the fud. The money channelled into Sco from Microsoft to do all this bullshit is small change in comparison to the market sales they gained in the high end server game.

Re:... and on this day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40913159)

... and yet anyone with a clue will choose Linux over Windows anywhere but the desktop.

Re:... and on this day... (4, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 years ago | (#40914143)

There are reasons to choose Windows over linux.

Reason the first: Exchange.

Incidentally, I think Ive found a good way of figuring out which posters have a clue: those who say that their product / OS / device is the best option for all scenarios, dont.

Re:... and on this day... (2)

oakgrove (845019) | about 2 years ago | (#40914107)

Maybe so but Linux went though the copyright trial by fire against some very powerful enemies and when it was done and over, Linux came through looking better than ever. So when the FUD slinging starts, this is an easily cited IP victory.

Re:... and on this day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40914673)

And the proxy wars just worked out great during the cold war for everyone involved....

Re:... and on this day... (2)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#40913925)

finally hit rock bottom

More like they finally ran out of shovels.

Re:... and on this day... (0)

adolf (21054) | about 2 years ago | (#40914735)

... not a single f_ck was given.

Who are you censoring yourself for? Can't you just use the word? And if you don't want to use the word due to some sense of moral obligation, can't you come up with some better verbiage?

More to the point: On what planet would "fuck" be deemed offensive, but "f_ck" be perfectly OK?

sigh. (2)

Kaenneth (82978) | about 2 years ago | (#40911539)

And nothing of value was lost.

Re:sigh. (4, Insightful)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#40912091)

Yes, but the chapter 11 bankruptcy administrators earned a lot of money and ensured that none of it went to actual creditors.

Re:sigh. (2)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#40915191)

Speaking of which wasn't there a constructive trust involved?

I think that there may well be a case for negligence against the trustee for not sending that money Novell's way pronto.

The court already decided the money was already Novell's and that it wasn't even supposed to be part of the bankruptcy estate to begin with.

Re:sigh. (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#40915345)

Oh sure, they'll send a few cents to Novell. But they have administrative fees to collect first. That means however many lawyers you have multiplied by hourly rates, suck up any excess cash fast. No one would ever be an administrator if they had to do it for free, and extremely few would volunteer for it if they couldn't make good money at it.

Ding Dong (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911553)

the Witch is dead!

Mod this up, lol (2)

Grog6 (85859) | about 2 years ago | (#40911825)

SCO fits the 'green and warty' set pretty well. :)

Although the Scooby Doo ending is also appropriate; "They'd have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for PJ."

Re:Ding Dong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40915221)

but in Hollywood movies the baddie allways gets back up for one last try at the end. You know there is allways a sequel!

Let's not forget (5, Interesting)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 2 years ago | (#40911559)

Ralph Yarro enriched himself tremendously. While SCO the company might be bankrupt, a lot of the money ended up with him.

Robert Penrose and Val Kriedel (Noorda) both committed suicide over their involvement.

Tens of thousands of us were damaged in some way.

Re:Let's not forget (0)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#40911769)

Ralph Yarro enriched himself tremendously. While SCO the company might be bankrupt, a lot of the money ended up with him.

Robert Penrose and Val Kriedel (Noorda) both committed suicide over their involvement.

Tens of thousands of us were damaged in some way.

It's a sad thing to drive past the old Santa Cruz Operation buildings, over near Harvey West Park, remembering better times for the company and people. I once attended a free JSP session there when SCO hosted the author and was kind enough to provide refreshments. So much potential, so rudely squandered.

Re:Let's not forget (5, Informative)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#40912347)

Nonono.

That was Santa Cruz Operation.

COMPLETELY different outfit.

The people hearing the *FLUSH* right about now were The SCO Group (aka Caldera Systems, later Caldera International).

Essentially, they bought some of the original SCO UNIX IP when Santa Cruz Operation became Tarantella Inc.

Later, they entered into a licensing agreement with Novell to collect fees based on THEIR copyrights.

Caldera, having delusions of grandeur, decided that they'd *bought* all that UNIX IP, didn't pay Novell a dime, changed their name to The SCO Group, and decided that they'd try to take ownership of ALL *nix by trying to collect royalties on anything *nix derivative (including Linux, which they'd contributed to). They somehow thought that holding huge companies like IBM hostage. Apparently they forgot that IBM's lawyers were INFINITELY nastier predators than ANYONE they could afford to hire.

Not to mention incoming and outgoing lawsuits squaring off against RedHat, AutoZone, SGI, and Daimler Chrysler.

The only thing that kept them afloat that long was intervention by Microsoft, looking to chum the waters further.

In short, the asscreants at The SCO Group (a group of litigation-happy IP trolls who didn't do their homework) have jack and shit to do with the original Santa Cruz Operation (a group of technologists).

Re:Let's not forget (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40912443)

This.

I had the pleasure of working for the Santa Cruz Operation. Say what you will about its flavor ("The McDonald's of UNIX" and the inexplicable "SCO OK" attempt to ape "Designed for Windows" branding, which was immediately renamed by techies to "WTF? Scook?!"), it was a fantastic place to cut my teeth.

The SCO Group can die in a fire, and should have done so years ago. The Santa Cruz Operation was a place where techies could tinker on stuff largely unimpeded by management, and I remember my days there findly.

Re:Let's not forget (5, Interesting)

NJRoadfan (1254248) | about 2 years ago | (#40913043)

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to Caldera. They used to have a their own Linux distribution and tried to make it user friendly with the Looking Glass Desktop. They even ported Sun's WABI to x86 Linux. Back in 1997, they were pretty much viewed as a Linux company. Groklaw did a nice piece about it: http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20080807125817699 [groklaw.net]

Re:Let's not forget (2)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#40914117)

Agreed. Their initial releases of Caldera OpenLinux were some of the most user-friendly Linux installs EXTANT at the time.

Stupidly easy to navigate. And while it installed, they gave you a game of TETRIS to keep you occupied.

Re:Let's not forget (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 2 years ago | (#40915399)

Indeed, it was sad to see Caldera plummeting into the abyss of incompetent leadership and negative strategy.
I was one of those users of the quite nice Caldera OpenLinux on a 486 back in the last century. I moved thence to SuSE (before Novell purchased it) and subsequently to the *buntu family.

Re:Let's not forget (1)

jbgreer (4245) | about 2 years ago | (#40913091)

Lawsuits against their customers? You're kidding, right?

Re:Let's not forget (1)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#40914129)

Basically they tried to extort unwarranted "license fees" from any and ever avenue they could find.

And anyone who didn't play ball got served.

Re:Let's not forget (1)

nomadic (141991) | about 2 years ago | (#40913735)

"Apparently they forgot that IBM's lawyers were INFINITELY nastier predators than ANYONE they could afford to hire."

Ehhh..I dunno. SCO had Boies Schiller, IBM had Morrison Foerster, they're both kind of operating at the same level.

Re:Let's not forget (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40914081)

Wasn't that Oracles lawyer in v. Google? Isn't he tired of getting his ass kicked by team Linux yet?

Re:Let's not forget (3, Informative)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#40914139)

Sorry, but IBM is the birthplace of "Here's the first tractor-trailer of paperwork. Where do you want the OTHER hundred and thirty seven?"

It's a commonly known fact that IBM's lawyers eat their own children... =)

Re:Let's not forget (1)

sconeu (64226) | about 2 years ago | (#40914561)

Sorry. IBM had Cravath, Swaine and Moore. *NOVELL* had the MoFos.

Re:Let's not forget (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#40914411)

Nonono.

That was Santa Cruz Operation.

COMPLETELY different outfit.

The people hearing the *FLUSH* right about now were The SCO Group (aka Caldera Systems, later Caldera International).

Essentially, they bought some of the original SCO UNIX IP when Santa Cruz Operation became Tarantella Inc.

Later, they entered into a licensing agreement with Novell to collect fees based on THEIR copyrights.

Caldera, having delusions of grandeur, decided that they'd *bought* all that UNIX IP, didn't pay Novell a dime, changed their name to The SCO Group, and decided that they'd try to take ownership of ALL *nix by trying to collect royalties on anything *nix derivative (including Linux, which they'd contributed to). They somehow thought that holding huge companies like IBM hostage. Apparently they forgot that IBM's lawyers were INFINITELY nastier predators than ANYONE they could afford to hire.

Not to mention incoming and outgoing lawsuits squaring off against RedHat, AutoZone, SGI, and Daimler Chrysler.

The only thing that kept them afloat that long was intervention by Microsoft, looking to chum the waters further.

In short, the asscreants at The SCO Group (a group of litigation-happy IP trolls who didn't do their homework) have jack and shit to do with the original Santa Cruz Operation (a group of technologists).

Yes, I knew all that. What's your point? The buildings are still there and what could have been a noble enterprise was turned into a monster.

Re:Let's not forget (1)

stasike (1063564) | about 2 years ago | (#40915107)

Yes, you knew that, and yet you called them "The Santa Cruz Operation." Santa Cruz operation was entirely different company. This bankrupted company is Caldera, later renamed "SCO" [that is: NOT Santa Cruz Operation] in an attempt to muddle things. Apparently they were highly successful.

Suicide (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 2 years ago | (#40914893)

Ralph Yarro enriched himself tremendously. While SCO the company might be bankrupt, a lot of the money ended up with him.

Robert Penrose and Val Kriedel (Noorda) both committed suicide over their involvement.

 
There was a veil attempt to clear the name of Val Kriedel after her suicide - http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20050407113517663 [groklaw.net] - but anyhoo, what do we do with Ralph Yarro ?
 
We should not leave him scot free after what he had done to thousands and thousands of us
 
If we let Ralph Yarro go we only send a clear signal to the world - come and troll us, hurt us, impair our ability to renovate, and at the end, we will let you go scot free
 
I am not calling for a violent vengeance or a jihad or anything like that, what I am saying is we should not let that motherfucker go scot free, just like that
 

Who-hoo! Time to get that source code cheap;) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911573)

I'll chip in $5.00 if they provide it on a nice big flash drive.

Re:Who-hoo! Time to get that source code cheap;) (1)

Sygnus (83325) | about 2 years ago | (#40911609)

I'll chip in $5.00 if they provide it on a nice big flash drive.

I'll chip in $6.99. ;)

too late (2)

slew (2918) | about 2 years ago | (#40912537)

Apparently, a shell company called UnXis bought all that was left of SCO (except the lawsuit) for $600K. I'm assuming SCO lawyers got some money from some Dubai emirate to set UnXis up and then proceeded to dump that money into SCO so they could bleed it out. Now that money is gone, so Chapter 7 it is...

All that Unixware/OpenServer source base belongs to them (not us).

Zombie Corp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911589)

I have a feeling that they will be one of those corporations that rise back from the grave in a few years to continue to attempt to survive off others.

Re:Zombie Corp (1, Informative)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about 2 years ago | (#40912883)

I have a feeling that they will be one of those corporations that rise back from the grave in a few years to continue to attempt to survive off others.

Can we just skip ahead to whatever comes after, "the lawyers will suck the marrow from the carcass and leave the bones to bleach out in the sun."? These guys are like one of those bad zombie movies where the zombies keep coming back; even after the credits are done.

No longer SCO (4, Interesting)

ClaraBow (212734) | about 2 years ago | (#40911755)

I went to www.sco.com and lo and behold a new company has emerged from the ashes!

Re:No longer SCO (4, Interesting)

landoltjp (676315) | about 2 years ago | (#40911837)

From the "Company Profile" page:

"UnXis, Inc., a new company formed by Stephen Norris Capital Partners and MerchantBridge Group created to acquire all the operating assets and intellectual property rights of The SCO Group, Inc."

However, I like this line:

"Led by a team of visionary and accomplished technology and businesses executives"

*chuckle*

Re:No longer SCO (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 2 years ago | (#40912233)

> "Led by a team of visionary and accomplished technology and businesses executives"

Really? Like, from where?

Re:No longer SCO (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 2 years ago | (#40912657)

Bankruptcy assets, I fear...

Re:No longer SCO (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 2 years ago | (#40913209)

Business executives are bankruptcy assets? Wow.

Re:No longer SCO (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40912615)

all the operating assets and intellectual property rights of The SCO Group, Inc.

Plus they got a couple of empty cans with a 5 cent refundable deposit.

Correctm they are just rebooting (5, Informative)

tlambert (566799) | about 2 years ago | (#40912377)

They are coming back as UnXis, and they are still asserting that Linux is infringing their intellectual property, including the McBride letter:
http://www.sco.com/5reasons/#5 [sco.com]

It's a coventure between Stephen Norris Capital Partners and MerchantBridge Group. Stephen Norris' biography includes the former presidency of the Carlyle Group, who tried to invest in SCO in 1998, in a deal netting his group 51% ownership with a court filing that included the statement "provides that the reorganized SCO will pursue the Novell/IBM litigation and other pending litigation claims aggressively,".
http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_8267122 [sltrib.com]

MerchantBridge Group is a very deep wallet:
http://www.mbih.com/ [mbih.com]
Eric le Blan of MerchantBridge is Chairman at UnXis.

I do not expect this saga is over.

No reboot possible (3, Interesting)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 2 years ago | (#40914075)

This is VCs attempting to look good or to drag it out to the last gasp for the folks behind this deal (I would guess Microsoft, given the testimony from Benchmark Capital).

But I don't think they actually have anything salable no matter how hard they try. There are enough court findings about the provenance of this IP that any going back to that will just cause a motion for sanction under Rule 11, which is about frivolous and factually baseless proceedings.

7-11 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911775)

SCO filed for chapter 11 back in April of 2011 [wikipedia.org] and now they're filing for chapter 7. Can someone explain what the two together might mean for SCO Group?

As a former SCO Unix user (for work) I just want to say that nothing of value has been/will be lost.

Re:7-11 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911951)

SCO filed for chapter 11 back in April of 2011 [wikipedia.org] and now they're filing for chapter 7. Can someone explain what the two together might mean for SCO Group?

As a former SCO Unix user (for work) I just want to say that nothing of value has been/will be lost.

Chapter 11 was a corporate adjustment to try and get the company going again. It could not happen so Chapter 7 is invoked which is liquidation. The company goes out of business and its assets are sold off with the proceeds divided among creditors.

Re:7-11 (4, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | about 2 years ago | (#40912245)

SCO filed for chapter 11 back in April of 2011 and now they're filing for chapter 7. Can someone explain what the two together might mean for SCO Group?

Chapter 11 means you're trying to reorganize the company to come out of bankruptcy protection again, typically by making a deal with your creditors and/or selling off assets, IP rights or parts of the business. Chapter 7 is liquidation, it means all their assets will be sold and the company will cease to exist.

Re:7-11 (2)

sconeu (64226) | about 2 years ago | (#40914599)

SCO filed Chapter 11 back in 2007, on the eve of the Novell trial.

Worse than Lost (2)

sizzzzlerz (714878) | about 2 years ago | (#40911813)

Nobody who died on that show stayed dead. Like SCO, they kept bringing them back for one more episode. Well, its time to let go, SCO. Walk off into that bright light.

Re:Worse than Lost (2)

Opportunist (166417) | about 2 years ago | (#40912675)

But at least the average network knows to keep a show dead when nobody wants to watch it anymore. And SCO jumped the shark years ago.

Let's all lock arms and dance (4, Funny)

PRMan (959735) | about 2 years ago | (#40911835)

Ding, dong, the witch is dead...

Don't forget (2)

BluPhenix316 (2656403) | about 2 years ago | (#40911893)

You gotta shoot the zombie in the head........

Groklaw is back? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911911)

I thought PJ closed Groklaw. Did she change her mind?

Interesting (4, Interesting)

DaMattster (977781) | about 2 years ago | (#40911915)

I am curious what SCO will do with its UNIXWare product portfolio. I would love it if Unixware source code would be made publicly available on a public domain license. There is no telling what exciting things will change in the current open source world.

Re:Interesting (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#40911947)

It will be sold off to the highest bidder just like every other asset

Re:Interesting (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#40912037)

If it is maintained at all like their Xenix product now called OpenServer I am sure everything is 20 years old and has not been updated in years. Seriously it like a timewarp on that thing! Does Unixware even come with x11R6 from 1999 yet or is it still X11R5? ... and here I am criticizing XP for being a decade old.

I know the source code is very historic but it is not practical to run it today. The 1977 AT&T source code is freely available if you google it as well as as some ancient PDP-11 C compilers from Denis Ritchie.

Re:Interesting (2)

sconeu (64226) | about 2 years ago | (#40914585)

Having developed for OpenServer and Xenix, I must correct you.

OpenServer is not Xenix. OpenServer is an SVR3 derivative. UnixWare is their SVR4 product. Xenix died with Xenix/386.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40914905)

I agree w/ the op. SCO, as the owner of USL, had full rights on AT&T code (although not to the extent they imagined), while Caldera at the time had a distro second only to RH. Incidentally, the last thing they were working on was Monterrey for itanium. One correction above - Unixware 7 was based on SVR5, not SVR4. At any rate, had SCO combined the best of svr5, Linux, and even things in Xenix or ODT/OSE and ported them to Suns, HP and others, they'd have done just fine.

Does anyone know whether whoever ends up w/ their remnants can release it under something like GPL? Since nobody has any use for it? Or can companies whose parts they were using, such as Symantec/Veritas file system, prevent them from doing it?

moD Tdown (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40911965)

ass 0ntil I hit my thing for the users of BSD/OS. A The system clean TCP/IP stack has Not going to play on my Pentium Pro a dead man walking.

Oh no! (5, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#40911985)

Where else am I going to buy that cutting edge modern SCO OpenServer that runs on so many different varieties of hardware that has a steal price of only $1800 for a TCP/IP stack to connect to the internet plus +$799 per core!

Re:Oh no! (1)

Pyrus.mg (1152215) | about 2 years ago | (#40913319)

For now the same place as before. [sco.com] I'm sure they'll have a new domain and team of lawyers soon.

Re:Oh no! (1)

ntropia (939502) | about 2 years ago | (#40915189)

Why I didn't know about this masterpiece before?

An IDC survey of 1000 IT professionals found UNIX to be superior to Linux in multi-processing, integration, security, and skills availability.

Here it is, black on white, the reason why Linux sucks: everybody knows that UNIX has better skills availability (go ahead, try "modprobe skill_avail" on your open source rip-off free OS)

The greatest improvements in OpenServer 6 include multi-threaded application support [up to no less than 32 processors, gentlemen], large file support (up to 1 terabyte)

That's right: others would have stopped at 16 cores, but hey, this is UNIX(c), babe, they've earned that "X" at the end of their name!

OpenServer 6 customers have reported up to 1000% increase in performance.

That would explain the lack of that hnd_brake process that was constantly running with 99.9% CPU usage in their previous version.
And if this didn't knock you off from your chairs yet, here come the frosting. Recent improvements include (among others):

Flash Player Support

and ... wait for it...

USB modems/serial adapters.

Now, once I've managed to convince my boss to sign for these these $25568 for our 32 core machine, I just have to figure out if I have to file this clearly "competitive advantage" under

low total cost of ownership

or under

established reseller relationships.

Re:Oh no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40915065)

I was forced to run a couple instances of OpenServer 5 and 6 at a company so scared of change it was still using dial-up for communication between branches. So... awful.

My only suggestion to those still suffering a similar fate is to replace everything with GNU utilities. SCO OpenServer 6 is so borked.

SCO's Intellectual property (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40912177)

I keep wondering: is there any IP there that somehow could be gotten cheaply and freed? Perhaps there's not a lot with commercial value (any more), but it might be stuff that could be used in one Open Source project or another?

SCO financial model? (1)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#40913561)

I've got an accumulator bet on a number of horses at odds of 1/2349088560, would anyone here like to invest in this legitimate business opportunity.
--

ref: "the Chapter 11 Trustee believes that it is in the best interests of the Debtors' estates and its creditors to continue the prosecution of the District Court Action [groklaw.net] , which was the subject of this Court's Order Granting Stipulation and Order Modifying the Automatic Stay [D.I. 1396]. Based on these circumstances, the Chapter 11 Trustee requests that this Court grant the Motion to convert these cases as soon as possible".

My thoughts on SCO (1)

CosaNostra Pizza Inc (1299163) | about 2 years ago | (#40913621)

Aren't you dead yet?

Zombies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40913775)

Brain eating and blood sucking zombies.

'And everything seemed to be going so well', from SinCity.

Look for more pyrotechnics in this to come.

LOL

So... (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#40913997)

Do I get my 699 bucks back?

Don't forget (1)

Nimey (114278) | about 2 years ago | (#40914087)

Don't forget to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock smoking teabaggers.

If there's any justice in this world (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | about 2 years ago | (#40914157)

Darl McBride will be reduced to offering hand jobs at freeway on-ramps just to earn a living.

LK

the case that made GrokLaw (1)

PMuse (320639) | about 2 years ago | (#40914687)

Don't sugar-coat it, PJ.
Tell us how you really feel.

Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40915023)

I'm surprised that it took this long for them to finally hit rock bottom.
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