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How To Watch Internet TV Across International Borders

Soulskill posted more than 2 years ago | from the your-computer-is-broadcasting-an-ip-address dept.

The Internet 206

colinneagle writes "Living in the U.S., one of my greatest regrets is that I can't watch BBC video with iPlayer. If I were living in the U.K., I'd feel the same away about not being able to watch shows on Hulu. But, with a Web proxy or a virtual private network (VPN) and an IP address in a country where the content is available, you can watch these shows. Technically, it's easy to set your browser up to use a Web proxy or VPN software. With a Web proxy and Windows XP, for example, you just go to Internet Options, click the Connections tab, and then click LAN Settings. Next, under Proxy server you click to select the 'Use a proxy server for your LAN' check box. Finally, you enter the IP address of the proxy server and in the Port box, type the IP number that is used by the proxy server for client connections—that's usually 8080. It's usually pretty simple to do that in any browser and operating system. There are also programs, such as Proxy Switchy, for Chrome that makes it easy to switch from one proxy to another in a single session. When you use a proxy, though, all your traffic is still open to network administrators. If you want to visit another country and watch their TV in privacy, you'll need a VPN."

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Is that news? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40921933)

Really?

Re:Is that news? (5, Interesting)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 2 years ago | (#40921973)

Not per se: It's not novel to most slashdotters. it's news in that its happening at unprecedented levels to bypass the horrible media layers injected into a currently popular international event.

Re:Is that news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922125)

a currently popular international event.

You mean SPAM, Fixed that for you.

Re:Is that news? (3, Insightful)

jaca44 (2557600) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922369)

Not sure I want it to be news to noobs. If VPNs used by all, the "Powers That Be" will start screaming and try and shut stuff down.

Re:Is that news? (1)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922457)

Except that VPNs are worth billions of dollars to institutional users(like banks). You can't just say "nope, block it"

Re:Is that news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922471)

Hence why I use a private Apache webserver (with root access and cURL) in another country I want to access content in as a proxy. Cheap and effective, but not as easy as setting up a connection to a VPN.

Re:Is that news? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922003)

News for Inexperienced Nerds?

Re:Is that news? (5, Funny)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922113)

Slashdot: News for noobs, Stuff that we all know

I lol'ed... (1)

logicassasin (318009) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922241)

people in the office stared as I let out a hearty "guffaw"

Re:Is that news? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922373)

Not only is it not news, it's wrong.

You don't need a vpn to secure privacy if you have a vps (as I do) or just a ssh account on somebody else's box in the target country; openssh will let you make a local socks proxy, and tunnel the traffic through ssh. For streaming tv across the pond, VPN is overkill, though it's probably worth setting up for other uses.

(Makes me think about a site to match up folks in the UK with counterparts in the US to exchange restricted (i.e. tunnelling-only) ssh accounts, for mutual benefit. Of course they both need in-country VPSes or other high upstream bandwidth connections -- your typical home connection can't handle decent video on the upstream.)

Does this actually work? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40921991)

I tried this with Hulu years ago and it didnt. Can anyone confirm that theyve had success with it?

Re:Does this actually work? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922029)

Yes. I use a VPN here in the UK and I can access Hulu.

Yes and no (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922057)

No, I can't confirm it, but I will call your bluff:

As long as the VPN isn't blacklisted, it should work. If it doesn't, then there is a technical problem that can be fixed.

Now, the reality is that IP addresses or ranges that become known as VPN providers will become quickly blacklisted.

Here's a case where it should work and will very likely NOT become blacklisted:

You subscribe to a service that lets you see Cable TV on any device on your LAN, or you put a TV card on your home computer. You then put an inbound VPN on your LAN. You go on vacation abroad. You tunnel in and watch American TV from Britain or, if your home is in the UK, you watch BBC in America. Not only is this unlikely to be spotted, but since you are already a paying customer, it's unlikely to make anyone want to shut you down as long as you keep it to yourself.

Re:Yes and no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922135)

How can you be so certain?
Here in the Netherlands, the broadcast company uses a Silverlight player and it checks if a proxy has been set.
With a proxy, it simply refuses to work.

Re:Yes and no (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922179)

So tunnel all the traffic via ssh or something.
They will never know.

Do the proxying a layer below.

then there is a technical problem (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922941)

If your proxy is detectable, then you aren't doing it right.

Re:Does this actually work? (2)

kwark (512736) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922123)

The last time I tried the problem was in the flash players/plugin making direct connections to content by ignoring the http_proxy settings of the browser. Setting the default route to the VPN made it work, long story short: proxy settings in browser might not be enough.

Re:Does this actually work? (1)

greenfruitsalad (2008354) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922407)

i use tinyproxy to watch hulu.com. the configuration is trivial, you just need to make sure you

comment out these:
AddHeader "X-My-Header" "Powered by Tinyproxy"
ViaProxyName "tinyproxy"

uncomment and set this:
DisableViaHeader Yes

the rest of my config is almost unchanged.

What slashdot reader is this written for? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40921993)

What slashdot reader is this written for?

A: Someone who doesn't know what a proxy is, or how to set one up?
B: Someone who isn't wise enough to google how to watch internet media that is region blocked?
D: Gnomes
C: Someone who accidentally stumbled onto slashdot today?
The answer is D! Because the others are all make-believe!

Re:What slashdot reader is this written for? (3, Interesting)

damien_kane (519267) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922719)

The answer is D! Because the others are all make-believe!

C: Someone who accidentally stumbled onto slashdot today?

Not entirely true; I've hit /. with StumbleUpon before, so it's possible someone could very well accidentally stumble onto /.

Re:What slashdot reader is this written for? (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922937)

Cowboy Neal!

Re:What slashdot reader is this written for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40923071)

And it doesn't really address the big issues. How do you find such a proxy you can trust? What if your ISP does port blocking like mine (besides the fact that port 8080 is sometimes used by legitimate sites)? What about alternative suites, like TOR Vidalia bundle?

Here is my experience: Italy to the US (3, Interesting)

gesker (69639) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922015)

Re:Here is my experience: US to UK (2)

LVSlushdat (854194) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922599)

Since I like to watch UK streaming tv, I signed up with a VPS provider who along with their US datacenters, has a datacenter in the UK, and added a UK VPS to my account, along with the two others I have in their Dallas DC. An install of OpenVPN and Squid on the Ubuntu 10.04 OS and I'm off to watching UK TV. So far, its worked perfectly. I'm loaning it currently to friends who are rabid Olympics fans. Oh and the good part? The VPS is an OpenVZ 512mb container, choice of all sorts of Linux distros, and with 300GB/mo transfer, 15GB of diskspace, and costs me a whopping $5.95/mo. The two I have in Dallas are also $5.95/mo. As soon as $$$ are a bit looser in my wallet, I'm planning on going with the $59.95/yr plan on the two Dallas slices... Google ThrustVPS.. Don't have any financial ties to them, just been a customer for nearly two years and very happy with their service...

Since when is SlashDot a how-to site? (3, Insightful)

mj1856 (589031) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922019)

Next thing you know we'll have all the bullshit that goes along with ask.com and ehow.

Re:Since when is SlashDot a how-to site? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922073)

Well Slashdot needs to do something to compensate for the spam in the comments and levels of abuse matched only by youtube driving away half the users.

Re:Since when is SlashDot a how-to site? (4, Insightful)

Meshach (578918) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922099)

Next thing you know we'll have all the bullshit that goes along with ask.com and ehow.

Slashdot's official mission is "News for nerds", I think that this qualifies. During a major event like the Olympics a common complaint amongst techies and non-techies alike is that they are unable to view coverage because of their location. This is informing people that their is technology that enables users to bypass the restriction. I clicked on the story and read the comments because I found it interesting.

Re:Since when is SlashDot a how-to site? (2)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922191)

"How to configure Windows XP to use a proxy" is not news. It's a not-for-nerds tutorial.

Re:Since when is SlashDot a how-to site? (1)

Meshach (578918) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922563)

"How to configure Windows XP to use a proxy" is not news. It's a not-for-nerds tutorial.

Since the Olympics are such a major event an exception was deemed appropriate and it is something most of us probably did not know before reading it here on Slashdot . But I agree with both you and mj1856 in that I hope this is not going to become a regular occurrence.

Why use a VPN? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922041)

SSH has a SOCKS proxy built right in. If you have shell access to a system in the states, you're golden.

Next week.... (5, Funny)

SilverJets (131916) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922051)

Your mouse. How to move it left and right AND up and down on your screen.

Re:Next week.... (5, Funny)

heptapod (243146) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922075)

omg, my mouse has two buttons and a wheel between them! i hope this is a continuing series!

Re:Next week.... (1)

Rogue974 (657982) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922319)

I saw that too!! It was amazing! Did you keep watching and see that the wheel can also be clicked on as well!!!

I hear next week they are going to talk about this thing with letters on it. I hope they cover the ESC key and where there ANY key is. Som many things ask me to hit the ANY key and I end up having to hit the computer power button because I can't find it.

Re:Next week.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922537)

In the words of the wise Homer J. Simpson:
"ANY key. Where's the any key. All I see is 'kertl', 'alt' and 'pig up'. Well, I might as well order a Tab."

Re:Next week.... (1)

heptapod (243146) | more than 2 years ago | (#40923063)

i always type "any" and that works. sometimes before i'm done typing! computers can be so magical.

Re:Next week.... (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922227)

Slow down there, cowboy, I am writing this down. Left. Right. Up. what was the last one?

Re:Next week.... (1)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922509)

B A B A Select Start. Not only can you watch Hulu, but you can be shot 29 times with impunity!

Re:Next week.... (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922259)

Your mouse. How to move it left and right AND up and down on your screen.

Chapter 3: Moving Diagonally.
(How to successfully combine left/right with up/down.)

Re:Next week.... (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922503)

Reminds me of George Carlin talking about the magazines for absolutely everything, including Walking: "Here's a great article, putting one foot in front of the other!"

Re:Next week.... (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922667)

Next thing you know, someone will post a 'straight line' tutorial for Gimp.

TV on the web? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922071)

Then you get ads. Ads are like plague. Why not thepiratebay?

Re:TV on the web? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922143)

Maybe they're saving the torrent tutorial for next week's filler article.

Re:TV on the web? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922317)

Because the author isn't shortsighted and understands that content producers do not get paid, said content will cease to be created.

Re:TV on the web? (1)

Johann Lau (1040920) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922431)

The BBC is made from British taxpayer money, for British citizens. Where is the problem with that? I don't get it. Especially since they have plenty of stuff available for international audiences.

Would Slashdot also run a story about a hack that gets one subscriber status on Slashdot without paying? If some other big site did, how many Slashdotters would utterly pee themselves?

Re:TV on the web? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922685)

Where is the problem with that

I've always viewed one of government's roles is to provide necessary services to the population that would not be accomplished without its intervention. Construction of roads is a necessary service. "Dr. Who" is not.

Re:TV on the web? (3, Informative)

dwater (72834) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922861)

Tax? i thought it was a licence fee, and you get iplayer access in UK irrespective of if you pay or not, and don't outsside the UK irrespective of if you pay or not.

Re:TV on the web? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40923025)

Oh really?
And what about all those people making content for fun and absolutely free?
I think it is you who is short-sighted with your dumb belief that people are only motivated by money and nothing else ever.

Excuse me but... (1)

zrbyte (1666979) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922101)

... WTF is this "story" about (beside the obvious) and how is this news for nerds?

How to watch US TV in Canada (2)

davidwr (791652) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922109)

Set up your over-the-air TV antenna close to the US border.

Oh wait, if you are like most Canadians, you probably do that already.

*cue rim-shot*

Re:How to watch US TV in Canada (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922275)

Or just buy cable. In my travels through Canada I noticed all the cable systems pick-up and rebroadcast ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW stations from Maine, New York, Michigan, North Dakota, and Washington states. (Good thing too since I couldn't find any Canadian shows worth watching... except Red Green.)

Re:How to watch US TV in Canada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922429)

I know lots of people in Vancouver and area, very few watch TV. There's so much stuff to do here: theatre (community and big production), live music, movies, outdoors, clubs of all kinds, or just a quiet dinner with friends at a local restaurant, that nobody really has time or cares to sit through all the commercials to watch some formula TV show. At worst on a rainy night, people borrow a DVD from the library or rent one.

X-Forwareded-For (5, Informative)

andydouble07 (2344014) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922117)

Of course sometimes you can just set the X-Forwarded-For attribute in your browser to an IP address inside the country. A fair amount of web servers are set up to blindly trust it. A lot cheaper than a proxy when it works.

Re:X-Forwareded-For (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40923109)

I'm not sure what that means.. Can you Google that for me?

Or just use Bittorrent (1, Insightful)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922121)

If you're going to steal BBC Video (since you never paid the TV tax), then you might as well do it the easy method and just do a torrent download.

To be honest though I've not really found much on BBC I wanted to watch. "Doctor Who" and "BBC News" is the only thing that comes to mind and both of those I can get legally (via Syfy or PBS). Plus there are other alternatives like France24, NNK-japan, and RT which come free through my antenna.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922211)

You should checkout Sherlock and TopGear.

BBCA delivers (1)

logicassasin (318009) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922303)

I watch TopGear as often as I can thanks to BBC America (the original BBC version, not the wretched, bastardized, hillbilly, neck of red American version). I'm a fan of Jeremy Clarkson on the show, love his wit and overall disdain for American cars.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922857)

You should checkout Sherlock and TopGear.

Question: Can you stream Wheeler Dealers? It airs on Discovery UK, if that matters...

I love that show.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 2 years ago | (#40923027)

Its on the Velocity channel a lot.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (4, Interesting)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922301)

There are *a lot* of people, expats and otherwise, that would be absolutely fine with paying for some sort of international license for the BBC. I see this "you're stealing BBC" crap from Brits, but they are not giving an option to us and we're asking for it.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922811)

Are governments allowed to assess a tax (or fee) outside of their own territory?

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922965)

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. They may not be able to "tax" me, a US citizen, but there should be absolutely no reason why I cannot choose to give the UK government money, especially if I end up getting something out of it (access to the BBC).

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922455)

I'd gladly pay a few euros to the BBC each month for full iPlayer access. It's just not possible!

Downloading pirated content is possible and easy.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922935)

A large part of Europe can receive FTA BBC satelite streams. No need to pirate in that case.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922507)

If you're going to steal BBC Video (since you never paid the TV tax), then you might as well do it the easy method and just do a torrent download.

Given the time this... *ahem*... "news" was posted, chances are this is in response to NBC's frankly embarrassing Olympic coverage. Thus, those people are looking for live BBC video. Far as I know, torrenting doesn't really work for live feeds, MLB.tv's NexDef thing notwithstanding...

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922617)

There are countless BBC documentaries mostly of good quality...no need to torrent, you can just watch them on You Tube. Not perfect but waaaaay better than the brain dead US stuff.

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (1)

cpu6502 (1960974) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922687)

Does BBC have a channel on youtube? What do I search for?

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922869)

No longer able to get BBC for free over your antenna [slashdot.org] anymore?

Re:Or just use Bittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922831)

If you're going to steal BBC Video (since you never paid the TV tax)

You mean making a copy. Nothing has been "thieved". [slashdot.org]

Setting up is easy... the hard part is (3, Interesting)

Spy Handler (822350) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922131)

finding a decent open proxy. They go down all the time with no warning. So pay up and get a commercial account or be prepared to make open proxy hunting a part of your daily/weekly routine.

I used to play a MMRPG that banned my entire continent's IP... I still remember the feeling of joy upon finding a fast open proxy outside my banned zone!

Re:Setting up is easy... the hard part is (1)

sociocapitalist (2471722) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922421)

finding a decent open proxy. They go down all the time with no warning. So pay up and get a commercial account or be prepared to make open proxy hunting a part of your daily/weekly routine.

I used to play a MMRPG that banned my entire continent's IP... I still remember the feeling of joy upon finding a fast open proxy outside my banned zone!

How do you feel about sharing the details of that proxy? :-)

Attention know-it-alls (4, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922137)

Some people might find this useful, so let's not get too carried away with our technical superiority. If you don't find the story informative, don't read it.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people on messageboards will weight in on a topic that they're not interested in just to say "I'm not interested in this topic." On /. we seem to have people who do nothing but post inane comments about how they're not interested in a particular story, usually in the Idle section. I find it amusing because clicking two buttons to post a reply was an even bigger waste of their time than the few seconds they spent reading the summary.

Re:Attention know-it-alls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922281)

Amen to that. I'm tired of people acting like they're unique little snowflakes who need to rage whenever someone might be taught something new on /.

Re:Attention know-it-alls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922867)

What would be useful is the IP address of a public proxy that can consistently handle the bandwidth that streaming video requires.
Even so, streaming via proxy or vpn is only really needed if you need to watch something live. Everything else can easily be found elsewhere.

Isn't this what VPS are for? (2)

mysqlbytes (908737) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922145)

Personally I have a VPS in every country I want to get content from. I have a US VPSs, for Netflix, Pandora an whatever else. I have a UK VPS for BBC iPlayer, Channel4 and so on. Cheap as chips generally. I think my UK one cost $30 a year! Sell the service to my friends, and bingo I've made my money back, and I don't have to worry (too much) about some third party stealing all of my traffic

Re:Isn't this what VPS are for? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922249)

Scumbag /.'er

Steals traffic from BBC

Worries about people stealing traffic from him

Re:Isn't this what VPS are for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922517)

Yes, VPS are good for this that way you can setup what ever kind of tunneling you want...now my hunt is for a VPS that will work with ESPN3.com's service that blocks via netblocks.

this is not news for NERDS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922197)

wtf really?

Just end the stupid bullshit restriction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922209)

FUCK BIG MEDIA UP their ASSHOLE and end all the stupid content restictions....ALL CONTENT SHOULD BE FREE and UNRESTRICTED...but then I'm preaching the choir...so why am I bother to comment at all.

Re:Just end the stupid bullshit restriction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922439)

ALL CONTENT SHOULD BE FREE and UNRESTRICTED

You should start your own production company and release all of the free and unrestricted content you want. Good luck acquiring capital; I'm sure investors will love this business plan.

Another alternative is...change your DNS! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922217)

http://unblock-us.com/ is what I have been using. They have a free trial and the experience has been pain free. Long term cost would be $4.99 / mo
I'm not sure exactly how it works, but it just does! (Can someone chime in on how they do it without a VPN??)

$.02,

-TJJ

Re:Another alternative is...change your DNS! (2)

heypete (60671) | more than 2 years ago | (#40923111)

If I understand correctly, for the vast majority of traffic they provide ordinary DNS resolver service.

When you attempt to access something on their list of stuff-that-needs-to-be-proxied (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, etc.) their DNS servers don't return the canonical result, but instead point toward proxy servers run by unblock-us. Data is then automatically proxied as needed.

Slashdot: time travel for your brain! (4, Funny)

billcopc (196330) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922309)

Dear Slashdot,

I've been doing exactly this for, oh, I dunno, 8 or 9 years. I even have several fellow /.ers as clients on my VPN/proxy/privacy service. Thank you, Soulskill, for this lovely little time capsule from 2004.

Stay tuned for our next story, where a young startup named Apple plans to change the world with a new kind of graphic calculator, tentatively called "Newton".

GROUPTHINK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922987)

You're all a bunch of clowns. One jackass projects their own insecurities here ("I already know this, bwaa, OMG you though i didn't know this?") and an army of jerkoffs pipe in because, well, they have the same insecurities.

Thanks for showing us how smart you guys are.

Won't you think of those poor starving artists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922323)

How will artists get paid if you watch shows outside the country they were licensed in?
Next thing you know, the MAFIAA will be accusing slashdot of inciting piracy. Everyone grab your blunderbuss and sabre!

Replacement for proxy switchy please? (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922335)

There are also programs, such as Proxy Switchy

Proxy switchy gets angry on my desktop linux box, recently it starts whining because its not on gnome or kde and refusing to work, for not apparent reason other than it would be fun to complain. Too bad, before they put that detection code in proxy switchy it worked perfectly.

Anyone have a suggestion for an alternative that is less buggy, or at least does not have that bug?

Or not watch it? (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922401)

When I spent some time in Japan, I didn't watch any American TV and nothing bad happened. The USA was still there when I came back, and it turns out that I didn't miss any shows worth watching (and most of what I would have watched is on Netflix anyway).

Re:Or not watch it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922601)

When I spent some time in Japan, I didn't watch any American TV and nothing bad happened. The USA was still there when I came back, and it turns out that I didn't miss any shows worth watching (and most of what I would have watched is on Netflix anyway).

Oh, geez. There's so many unhelpful, sarcastic ways this can be answered. Let's just stick to two:

Yes, but given how many doomsayers there are nowadays, the USA might not be there tomorrow. Or at the very least, November, when the entire country will end if we don't vote correctly. It's frustrating, really.

--OR--

Okay, now, turn that around, smart guy. How many shows in Japan do you miss?

Re:Or not watch it? (1)

hawguy (1600213) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922675)

When I spent some time in Japan, I didn't watch any American TV and nothing bad happened. The USA was still there when I came back, and it turns out that I didn't miss any shows worth watching (and most of what I would have watched is on Netflix anyway).

Oh, geez. There's so many unhelpful, sarcastic ways this can be answered. Let's just stick to two:

Yes, but given how many doomsayers there are nowadays, the USA might not be there tomorrow. Or at the very least, November, when the entire country will end if we don't vote correctly. It's frustrating, really.

Even in the USA, I get my news (political or otherwise) through the web, not TV

Okay, now, turn that around, smart guy. How many shows in Japan do you miss?

Well, I'm not really that much in to TV, so there's no shows in Japan that I miss enough to watch to watch from here. When I'm in Japan, I love to watch the morning talk shows where they visit restaurants and try our their specialties, but not enough to go out of my way to watch them.

Could have been better (2)

zerosomething (1353609) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922403)

Wouldn't this have been a better post if it included a list o open VPN and Proxy services for each country?

Re:Could have been better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922755)

option a:
but that's hard work, i don't get pay to excel!

option b:
THATS A NOOBS JOB, DO I LOOK A NOOB?

what do you pick?

Really necessary to proxy everything? (4, Interesting)

javakah (932230) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922541)

2 years ago I decided that I wanted to view stuff through the BBC's iPlayer, forgetting that most of the good stuff from the BBC makes it here, and what doesn't make it here tends to be the dregs. Anyway, I found an open proxy in the UK and was barely able to get video across it. That was just the starting point. From there I looked at all of the HTTP communications (with Live HTTP Headers) and using FoxyProxy was able to just have certain pieces of data going through the proxy. I narrowed it down to just a few small HTTP communications that were being checked for location, and just proxied those. I got good streaming video after that because the actual video was being served up by Akamai. I wound up being served BBC video content from a server in Arizona.

Given that BBC America has most of the better stuff from the BBC, I haven't bothered messing with that kind of thing in several years.

This kind of thing may not work now, but it's worth checking to see just how much data really does have to be proxied/vpned if you are doing that kind of thing.

Is this legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922663)

Is this legal? It sounds like you're circumventing copyright protection or something.

You're disobeying the rules (0)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922681)

That's stealing!

Slightly Related... (1)

Nexzus (673421) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922731)

but geo-location blocking by the NHL is pretty much my last hurdle before cutting the cable cord.

The NHL offers a service called Gamecenter Live that allows you to stream live games to a computer or certain STBs. All games except those from within your broadcasting region. For me, it's the Canucks as I live in Vancouver.

I can't watch the Canucks live over this service because of the blackout restrictions imposed by the NHL. And they even have terms in their contract stating that if you use technical means to bypass the lockouts, ie VPN or proxies, they can terminate your service with no refund.

I want to send the following message to the NHL:

Hey NHL, I want to give you money. Please take it. All that I ask in return is to be able to watch the Canucks over GameCenter Live with no restrictions. I don't think that's too much to ask.

From what I understand, the sports networks pay you to broadcast your content (ie, your games). The cable networks make money by selling advertising to a sizeable audience. My "value" to the NHL for watching one game could be calculated by something like the following.

value = (1 / Total VIewers Per Game) * (Money Paid to NHL for Broadcasting season/82 games broadcasted per year)

I think I could probably pay you up to 1.5x value per game, you'd be very happy, and I'd still be ahead with regards to the cable bill.

When I do finally cut the cable cord, there can be two scenarios:

1) Legal, easy streaming to my PS3 in high quality. You get paid for your content, I have no monthly cable bill. Everybody wins*

2) Illegal, awkward low quality streams through a PC connected to my TV, You don't get paid for your content. I'm still not paying for cable, but it's almost not worth it because of the streaming headaches. Nobody wins.

Pretty simple choice there.

*Assuming you give a shit about the cable companies or sports networks.

Re:Slightly Related... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40923001)

First, your Veruca Salt-esque, "give me your content in a manner that I feel comfortable with or I'll acquire it without paying you" is tantamount to extortion. I don't know of anyone who would respond well do that.

Second, your calculation is simplistic to the point that it's meaningless. Among other things, it doesn't factor in the bundling aspect of cable. i.e. all of the people who are subscribed to the channel showing the NHL game that do not watch the NHL game. If the NHL still advertised when they sold you access to an individual team's games, you'd still need to pay

((Number of people subscribed to sports network)/(Number of people who watch the game) * (NHL share of subscriber revenue)) + (Incremental cost per user to deliver content) +(((Cost to NHL to broadcast games) - (Cost to sports net to broadcast games)/(Number of people to watch the game)

I'm assuming I missed something, too, so don't consider that exhaustive. But I'm assuming that number is going to be greater than 1.5x of your "value".

What? (1)

Rydia (556444) | more than 2 years ago | (#40922771)

Wait, there is a slashdot article on the front page detailing how to violate various broadcasters copyrights? I mean, I know it's preaching to the choir, but I'm astounded this is an actual article.

IPlayer in particular isn't region-locked because the BBC hates foreigners; the service is paid for by television licenses, which people outside of England (obviously) aren't paying. It's much more than just defeating a region-locking scheme, it's basically piracy. Seeing it front and center is crazy.

Thankfully (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922807)

People don't need a proxy to read advertisement articles on slashdot, so we'r safe...wait.. crap!

Blam... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40922943)

Now all this points of access will or have been block... Thanks Knuckle head.

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