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Man Orders TV On Amazon, Gets Shipped Assault Rifle

samzenpus posted more than 2 years ago | from the blow-up-your-TV dept.

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First time accepted submitter InfernoApple writes "Seth Horvitz, a Northeast D.C. resident, thought he had ordered a new high-definition television a few days ago through Amazon.com from a third-party merchant. When the package arrived yesterday, however, Horvitz opened the oddly shaped box to find something completely different. Instead of the flat-panel TV he had bought to enjoy with his wife, who is pregnant, Horvitz opened the long packaging to discover a Sig Sauer SIG716, a high-caliber, semi-automatic assault rifle capable of mowing down, well, just about anything."

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Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40931979)

1. Romney Killed My Wife -- This howler, courtesy of a pro-Obama super PAC, has sucked most of the oxygen out of yesterday and today's news narrative. In-between denouncing the ad, Romney's attempting to work through the clutter of this distraction to hit Obama for dismantling welfare reform.

2. Outsourcer-In-Chief -- This lie came courtesy of the Washington Post, who, in direct coordination with the Obama campaign, slammed Romney for outsourcing jobs he didn’t outsource.

3. Romney's Gaffe-tastic Overseas Escapades -- To make Romney look like a stumble-bum and destroy any hope he had of looking presidential or like a statesman, the corrupt media created gaffes out of whole cloth, going so far as to make Ugly American spectacles of themselves on sanctified ground. The Narrative was set and executed brilliantly.

4. Romney Will Crush the Middle Class With Tax Increases -- Both the media and Obama campaign have teamed up to use a phony study (co-authored by a former Obama official) to accuse Romney of planning to cut taxes for the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class. Lies don’t get much bigger than this, but Romney's had to be out there defensively explaining why this isn’t true ever since.

5. Harry Reid's McCarthyism -- This sinister but undeniably brilliant tactic sucked up six-days of the news-cycle and was a total and complete victory for the Obama campaign. For six-days we talked about Romney's taxes and not about Obama's failures. Reid, who has no plans to run for reelection, took all the fire and Obama floated above it all. Genius.

6. Romney's a Felon -- Both DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Senior Obama Campaign Advisor Stephanie Cutter used the word "felon" to describe Mitt Romney's association with Bain. This sucked the air out of three-days worth of news-cycles and while the media cried foul, they also made sure Obama paid no political price whatsoever. Moreover, Romney was reduced to a man demanding an apology. Another total win for Team Obama.

7. Romney Opposes Abortion Exceptions For Rape and incest Victims -- This ad comes straight from the Obama campaign, not a surrogate. It's another brazen, bald-faced lie that makes Romney look extreme and that the media has made sure Obama pays no political price for telling.

8. Romney the Gay-bashing Prep School As*hole -- In another blatantly false anti-Romney attack obviously coordinated between the Obama campaign and the Washington Post, the Post reaches back a half-century to Romney's mind and declare it homophobic.

9. Romney's More Secretive Than Nixon -- This one explains itself.

10. That's Racist -- This narrative is just starting to bubble up again. Chris Matthews was all over it last night and The New Yorker hit the theme that Romney's criticism of Obama dismantling welfare reform is racially based. And that's just the most recent example.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932011)

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

MOD PARENT UP!!

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932075)

I guess you don't know how this really works. Let me explain, modding up only goes to relevant comments. None of that drivel has anything to do with the story. Therefore all of five people will read it and your lame attempt to get your stupidity read will sink into oblivion. Welcome to the internet, where your voice no longer matter.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932149)

I have heard you have a really small penis. I don't know if this is true, but it's what I heard.

I'm just saying.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932395)

I heard the same thing. I also heard that the GP likes to shit in his hand and look at it while he's on the subway.

Don't know if it's true.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932401)

Your sister loves it, but it's what I heard.

I'm just saying.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1, Offtopic)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932365)

And yet, better than any other candidate. Go figure.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (0, Troll)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932031)

Is this one of the exercises you're asked to do before Rush comes on?

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932083)

No one outside the US cares one bit about this US political crud. Spam is several degrees more classy than this slop.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1, Offtopic)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932153)

No one outside the US cares one bit about this US political crud. Spam is several degrees more classy than this slop.

Well, considering that Slashdot is a US Centric site....deal with it.

:)

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932359)

You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what you think.

Re:Top ten Obama lies about Romney (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932209)

Please blather elsewhere.

Sounds like win-win to me! (5, Funny)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 2 years ago | (#40931981)

He obviously was buying the TV so that he could hoist it a few stories above the ground and kill whatever poor sucker stood under it when it drops. Amazon just knew him so well from his previous purchases that he'd rather just have a rifle!

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (2)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932107)

Wow...a Sig...likely as not, that will be worth more than the TV...keep it and order another tv!!

If he didn't want the rifle, he could likely resell it and make a profit. Isn't there the old rule, if you receive something in the mail that you didn't order....you can keep it, etc?

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (3, Insightful)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932143)

I could be wrong, but I think it may be illegal for someone in D.C. to own such guns, so he likely didn't want to take that chance on making a bit o' cash.

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (1, Informative)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932311)

Yes...and that's the point. It's really nothing special. Just a standard semi-automatic rifle (not much different than any other varmint rifle).

But in DC it is illegal and near impossible to get one. And he did....
(Could of just kept his mouth shut. And when things hit the crapper in another decade, he'd have the means to keep himself and his neighbors safe.)

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (5, Informative)

Mr. Esterhouse (849759) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932445)

I'm pretty sure you can own semi-autos in DC. People get this confused a lot. A semi automatic gun is not an assault rifle, no matter how it looks. An assault rifle is a gun that fires more than one bullet with one pull of the trigger, i.e, machine guns. There may be a mag limit in D.C which would make it illegal if it shipped with a 30 Rd magazine. However, if he kept the gun and they found out he would have problems because guns, shipped via mail, need to be shipped to a FFL licensed dealer.

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932497)

Your laws are funny in the USA. Isn't that a simple mechanical modification to make ?

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932491)

You would know if you were or not if you read the article.

Re:Sounds like win-win to me! (5, Funny)

sigxcpu (456479) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932439)

Besides, if someone gives you a rifle and you can't get yourself a brand new TV on your own, maybe you don't deserve one.

Oblig. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40931987)

Re:Oblig. (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932113)

I would, I mean seriously...fair chance the rifle was worth more...and in DC wow....

No Maam (4, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 2 years ago | (#40931993)

It's just a misunderstanding, officer. I ordered an issue of Big'uns!

So... (1)

doubleplusungodly (1929514) | more than 2 years ago | (#40931997)

How far is this man away from Congress?

Re:So... (5, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932091)

Dear Secret Service, I do not know the above poster. We just hang out here.

Re:So... (4, Funny)

JustOK (667959) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932385)

Just one vote.

Pregnant? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40931999)

How is his wife's pregnancy relevant?

Re:Pregnant? (5, Funny)

loufoque (1400831) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932111)

A pregnant woman is less likely to have fun with an assault rifle

Re:Pregnant? (2)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932337)

Google Oleg Volk Pregnant

Lots of pregnant women have fun with guns!

Re:Pregnant? (1)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932343)

A pregnant woman is less likely to have fun with an assault rifle

And more likely to get down to serious business.

Re:Pregnant? (1)

Lieutenant_Dan (583843) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932129)

Well, he's obviously under a lot of stress, so arming him or his pregnant wife is certainly more dangerous. Luckily it came with a complimentary jar of pickles and some freeze-dried chocolate ice cream, so the crisis was averted.

Re:Pregnant? (4, Funny)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932227)

The mere mention of violence is obviously a threat to the frail constitutions of women, much less those with child. Didn't you learn anything in finishing school? Why, I think I might faint just from reading the summary!

Re:Pregnant? (5, Funny)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932471)

Frail? Hell! I was scared shitless every time my pregnant wife picked up scissors. Anything sharper than a butter knife was an excuse to go to the store.

An assault rifle in the house would have meant waking up to a loud bang in the middle of the night and bloody "can I sleep on your face" cat entrails blasted across the room. If I was lucky.

Re:Pregnant? (1)

Jahf (21968) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932357)

Perhaps she wanted to, I dunno, watch TV?

really??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932003)

What's a "high-caliber" assault rifle? A big, scary "machine gun" that will kill people that look at it wrong...

Re:really??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932145)

It's semi-automatic, therefore not a "machine gun".

Re:really??? (2)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932433)

You know that and I know that but journalists don't seem to know that.

The term semi-automatic is really quite misleading for most people. It sounds a lot more impressive than it really is. Of course any weapon that doesn't look rustic is going to come off as bad-scary.

Re:really??? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932159)

7.62 vs 5.56 probably. Not really "high-calibre."

Re:really??? (5, Informative)

Snotnose (212196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932285)

Came to post this. The article throws about "hi power", "mows down about anything", without ever specifying the caliber. 7.62x51 (not x56) is a standard NATO round, about 10% less powerful than a 30.06.

And as someone above said, the gun is probably worth twice what the TV he ordered is.

Re:really??? (5, Informative)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932219)

In this case it is 7.62x51, roughly identical to the .308 Winchester.

That is legal for deer hunting in all 50 states, unlike the weaksauce 5.56x45 used in actual assault rifles.

So he didn't actually get an assault rifle, semi-auto hunting rifle that happened to be painted black, had an adjustable stock for comfort and rails for attaching a scope, bipod and other accessories.

Re:really??? (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932363)

Sweet....

He should have kept his mouth shut, then when DC has riots in 10 years, he could have kept his family safe.

Re:really??? (5, Informative)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932247)

For those unaware, an assault rifle is a firearm capable of firing in a fully automatic mode, as opposed to semi-automatic or single-action. Furthermore, the most common round used in assault rifles is a pittance, it is a .22 caliber bullet (granted with a lot more power and better aerodynamics than the .22 LR you shoot in Boy Scouts). But even with all that it is considered pitiful, not much more than a varmint round.

Here in Pennsylvania it is illegal to hunt dear with a .223 caliber because it is not considered powerful enough to ensure a clean kill. In fact, those evil high caliber rounds are often half the size of a hunting cartridge.

So where does the term "high power" stem from? Not the cartridge itself. But the capacity of the firearm. Essentially, you had a 45 caliber semi-automatic designed by the Revered John Moses Browning. This held about 8 rounds. They're big short fat stubby rounds. 8 rounds of firepower was two more than the average revolver. The Revered than creating the Browning Hi-Power using a much smaller 9mm round. The result was a capacity of 15-19 rounds. Hence hi-power simply mean greater capacity, often related to small, weaker, less powerful bullets.

In fact, the current .223 round used in M16/M4/AR15 (semi-automatic version) is essentially considered the smallest, weakest, bare minimum rifle round that can ensure a reasonable expectation of success. Compared to what gramps used in WWII or worse, WWI, it's laughable - unless you're shot by one of course.

Re:really??? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932467)

No, an assault rifle is one that has a pistol grip and detachable magazine. It says nothing about the mode or rate of fire. The term is used by media outlets in such a way as to naturally lead you to the conclusion that an assault rifle is a machine gun, but it is not. You can have an assault rifle that is a machine gun but it is not a requirement for it to be an assault rifle. It's one of those terms that sounds scary so it is misused by people who probably don't really understand what they are talking about when talking to other people who don't really understand either with the predictable results of everybody gets the wrong idea.

Re:really??? (5, Informative)

RsG (809189) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932321)

What's a "high-caliber" assault rifle?

A contradiction in terms.

An assault rifle is A) fully automatic (with a fire selector that includes either full auto or burst) and B) fires an intermediate rifle cartridge, meaning not high calibre.

If it's high calibre, but still a military rifle, it's a battle rifle. If it's intermediate calibre, but limited to semi-automatic fire, it's just a semi-auto rifle.

You can't legally buy assault rifles, or select fire battle rifles for that matter, if you're a civilian living in a first world nation. Doesn't matter what you might see in the news that says otherwise, go try it at your local gun store and see how far you get. If it's got automatic fire capability, it's a military weapon belonging in the hands of soldiers, and cannot be owned by your local gun nut anymore than he can own a live grenade.

Referring to anything that looks remotely dangerous as either an assault rifle or machine gun is a good indicator that the person doing the labelling knows fuck all about the subject at hand. "Assault style rifle", which is the weasel word term for weapons like the one in TFA, is about the same thing as a car that looks like a racecar, but drives like a sedan; legal, fancy looking, but boring under the hood.

(Disclaimer: I am Canadian. The second amendment down south is none of my business either way. I own no guns. I am firmly in the "guns belong in the hands of professionals" category. Anyone busting out the "sure, that's what an NRA drone wants you to think" in response to my post presumably didn't read the post script.)

Re:really??? (1)

Rev Saxon (666154) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932489)

Thats not entirely true... It is possible for civilians to own fully automatic weapons, however there are a limited number of them available (nothing produced after 1986, has to have been registered before then), the costs are usually astronomical (12-16k is average for a m-16 style weapon), only certain states allow it, and current wait times to get the paperwork processed is about 6 months. But it is possible... technically.

Re:really??? (2)

RobertLTux (260313) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932409)

different sizes of bullets can be used in different sized firearms.

a smaller round could "bounce" if somebody is wearing a heavy jacket but something like a 7.62 X 51 mm NATO round might even get past some low end body armour.

Amazon Link to TV / Assault Rifle Please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932013)

Sounds like a bargain.

Well, at least he didn't get a bobcat.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932017)

Obilgatory XKCD reference.

http://xkcd.com/325/ [xkcd.com]

Re:Well, at least he didn't get a bobcat.... (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932243)

I dunno, I might buy again.

Bobcats are bad ass.

This is news Why?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932019)

Fulfilment dept at 3rd party F's up. News on /. ???

Re:This is news Why?? (0)

alen (225700) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932093)

it was actually a UPS screw up but we need to burn someone at the stake either way

Re:This is news Why?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932341)

I'm more ready to believe a UPS screw-up than an Amazon one. In Canada, UPS is the worst of all. Deliveries at wrong houses, damaged packages, expensive brokerage fees, missed deliveries even when you're home, the list goes on and on.

 

anti-gun hyperbole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932021)

i defy anyone to "mow down" anything with a semiautomatic rifle. get a grip

Re:anti-gun hyperbole (4, Insightful)

blueturffan (867705) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932177)

i defy anyone to "mow down" anything with a semiautomatic rifle. get a grip

You misunderstood. According to the summary, the weapon is capable of mowing down pretty much anything all by itself. This is similar to news reporting of SUVs causing horrible accidents.

Cars don't cause accidents. Guns don't kill people. IDEs don't write bugs.

Re:anti-gun hyperbole (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932481)

Well. Beyond the whole tendency to jam thing, you should be able to squeeze off plenty of rounds with only a semi-automatic.

His bumper sticker (4, Funny)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932023)

"Yesterday, I got a gun for my wife." "Pretty good trade, don't you think?"

Re:His bumper sticker (1)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932259)

I think you ripped the guy off.

And he told somebody??? (1)

bobthesungeek76036 (2697689) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932037)

I'll take that over a TV any day of the week. Especially living in DC...

Too much violence on TV (1)

SirBitBucket (1292924) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932039)

Obviously...

Interesting (4, Funny)

TonyAldo (2702885) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932059)

I want to know what kind of retailer carries HDTVs and assault rifles? Maybe Best Buy should adopt this idea, TVs, guns and chicken!

Re:Interesting (5, Insightful)

The Moof (859402) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932137)

I want to know what kind of retailer carries HDTVs and assault rifles?

Wal-Mart.

Re:Interesting (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932139)

Bubba's Gun Shop, Hair Care and Electronics Emporium.

Coming soon to an Alabama city near you.

Re:Interesting (2)

Nadaka (224565) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932291)

I have seen Bobs Gun Store, Bridal shop and Truck Repair. Though it was in Mississippi, not Alabama.

Re:Interesting (2)

biometrizilla (1999728) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932203)

Not clear why Amazon is involved here. Quick Amazon search doesn't turn up said SIG716 and I don't believe you can purchase guns from Amazon on-line anyway. Sounds like guy places order on Amazon for TV, carrier delivers wrong package to his apartment, guy tags Amazon for screw-up.

Re:Interesting (5, Funny)

rwise2112 (648849) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932299)

He should have read the fine print - "product may not appear exactly as shown"

Re:Interesting (3, Funny)

berashith (222128) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932451)

of course you couldnt find anything under SIG716. They have it hidden as a "TV" , but onl as a secret for those in the know. When you look into the specs for the tv, and it doesnt have HDMI and optical outs, but instead has specs like these, beware... it probably isnt a TV.
Caliber 7.62 X 51 mm NATO
    Overall Length 37.4 in
    Trigger Type MIL-SPEC
    Trigger Weight 7.6 lbs
    Barrel Length 16.0 in
    Rifling 1 in 10"
    Number of grooves 6
    Weight w/out Mag 9.3 lbs
    Mag Capacity 20 Rounds
    Mag Type Magpul PMAG
    Accessory Rail Yes
    Features Short stroke pushrod operating system with 4 position gas valve

Re:Interesting (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932387)

I want to know what kind of retailer carries HDTVs and assault rifles?

Damn near every pawn shop in the nation.

Sweet! (5, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932065)

Somewhere, deep in the desert, a hidden meth lab got a nice new TV.

I would use it... (2, Insightful)

wbr1 (2538558) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932079)

...to shoot all the execs and writers that produce the shit that would have displayed on his tv.

Re:I would use it... (-1, Troll)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932267)

You must be a liberal....they always seem so violent for some reason?

What about the other guy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932085)

Orders an assault rifle, gets a TV, instead of going on a rampage watches desperate house wives...

All i need to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932119)

is why he seems to have pots and pans in what looks like his living room? Very suspicious to me..

ammo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932135)

Unless there was ammunition included, the assault rifle wasn't capable of "mowing down" anything, unless you swung it like a baseball bat. In that case, an assault TV would have been more effective.

Lucky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932151)

Why can't I get lucky like that???!?! :(

His wife who is pregnant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932161)

What does his wife being pregnant have to do with anything?

When did 7.62 become "high-caliber"? (2)

Xeoz (1648225) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932185)

I suppose it is fatter than a .223, but it ain't no .50cal.

Not an assault rifle (4, Informative)

j. andrew rogers (774820) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932193)

The SIG716 is not an "assault rifle" and you won't be "mowing" anything down with it. It is a conventional semi-automatic rifle that can be legally owned just about everywhere. Also, it is in a large caliber that makes it better suited for hunting than for rapid fire.

If the guy had been shipped a functionally equivalent hunting rifle with a classic wood stock there would not be as many ninnies getting the vapors over it. Unless Amazon has never made a shipping error before, this is a non-story.

Re:Not an assault rifle (2)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932379)

SIG seems to market it [sigsauer.com] as a "patrol rifle". I don't think they're positioning it as a hunting rifle, although I suppose you could hunt with it anyway.

Re:Not an assault rifle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932457)

Amazon doesn't actually sell firearms, so odds are this was a delivery error rather than a shipping error.

Important details (1)

Jenerick (717200) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932201)

His wife, who is pregnant, is definitely integral to the story

Re:Important details (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932417)

Of course it is...

The unborn child might have gotten ahold of the rifle and accidentally shot someone, or at least blown a big friggin' hole in the womb.

Something is not right here... (1)

CommieLib (468883) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932235)

Amazon doesn't sell firearms, as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure they don't. The article is non-commital about whether the package was actually FROM Amazon. So, I think what happened here is that this dude ordered a TV for his wife, and in a totally unrelated incident, received a mis-shipped rifle. Of course, that's not as cute a story, so trim out a few details, leave a few false impressions, and Bob's your uncle.

Re:Something is not right here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932345)

Yeah, the Amazon angle seems completely superfluous.

Re:Something is not right here... (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932425)

It does say he ordered the TV from a third-party merchant, via Amazon's marketplace. It's possible the third-party merchant sells both TVs and firearms, and mis-shipped his order.

We should BAN ASSULT TV's (3, Funny)

uslurper (459546) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932249)

^^^

Re:We should BAN ASSULT TV's (1)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932453)

BAN INSULT TV's

I agree!!!!!

Yet another reason... (1)

michelcolman (1208008) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932281)

not to order assault rifles over the internet.

Meanwhile, in Texas... (3, Funny)

macwhizkid (864124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932283)

A border patrol vigilante is busy trying to figure out how to load a magazine clip into his assault rifle flatscreen.

Re:Meanwhile, in Switzerland... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932479)

every single military-age man has a fully-automatic variant of this rifle that was given to him by the government

Now I might buy something from Amazon.... (2)

Raxxon (6291) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932287)

Can someone tell me which make/model of TV he ordered and if it was cheaper than that 716?

I have a friend that owns the 516 (5.56 version of the gun instead of the 7.62) and it's a nice chunk of hardware...

Innaccuracy (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932293)

It's not an Assault Rifle. Normally the terms don't matter, but in the case of weapons, the laws are VERY different when you change just one word. The Sig 716 is an Assault Weapon, not and Assault Rifle.

The term "assault weapon" is a United States legal term used to describe a variety of semi-automatic firearms that have certain features generally associated with military assault rifles. The 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which expired on September 13, 2004, codified the definition of an assault weapon. It defined the rifle type of assault weapon as a semiautomatic firearm with the ability to accept a detachable magazine containing more than 10 rounds, and two or more of the following "Evil features":

        Folding or telescoping stock
        Primary pistol grip
        Forward grip
        Threaded barrel (for a muzzle brake or a suppressor, commonly called a silencer)
        Barrel shroud

The National Firearms Act of 1934, Gun Control Act of 1968 and the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 are the laws that affect Assault Rifles (all, I repeat ALL of which are select fire (burst) or fully automatic weapons)

So, in summary, the terms assault rifle and assault weapon are NOT interchangeable from a legal standpoint.

Secondly, that's a $2200 rifle, and the law is pretty specific about where you can deliver those things to (an FFL holder, and that's pretty much it). That's a pretty huge mistake to be made by UPS or whoever the shipping agent was

Can I get the item number and for the TV...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932301)

I'd like to purchase one with a 30-rnd mag and a cleaning kit...

I would have kept it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932307)

Let me see, hmmmm, TV or assault rifle worth about 10 times the tv. I would have kept it and shut my mouth and had a nice home defense weapon.

Assault? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932313)

Assault is something you do with a rifle, not a description of a rifle. If it is used for home defense then it would be more accuratly described as a defense rifle. Since it has never been used, it is currently best described as a semi-automatic rifle.

Sounds like the Kiva robots goofed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932323)

Maybe the customer who got the TV is another failed grad student/batman dressup guy, so this worked out well.

Reality TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932389)

This brings the violence on TV to a whole new level!

Wat (5, Funny)

Snodgrass (446409) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932405)

Is that article originally from the Onion?

Geez, they're just lucky that they're still alive. That very big gun, capable of mowing down, well...just about anything, could have leapt out that box and killed her unborn child!

I mean, unloaded guns, still in packaging, have killed untold numbers of unsuspecting hipsters.

hyperbole (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40932435)

semi-auto means that you squeeze the trigger and one -- ONE -- bullet comes out. Assult rifles are, by definition, fully automatic. This weapon is not full-auto, ergo it is not an assault rifle. "semi-automatic assault rifle" is a contradiction in terms.

You're not going to "mow down" anything with that gun. Again, it's semi-auto.

The rifle is chambered in 7.62 x 51 mm. That's, like, one of the most common rifle calibers in the world. There are hunting rifles that fire similar rounds, yes even the ones in the old cowboy movies.

But, hey, there's no reason we can't call this semi-auto rifle in a common caliber an "assault rifle capable of mowing down, well, just about anything." Who cares if it makes you sound like you don't know what the hell you're talking about? It's a gun! And not just any gun: it's black and has no wood on it! SCARY!

How dangerous, really? (5, Informative)

Urban Garlic (447282) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932463)

This story was on the local Washington DC NPR affiliate yesterday, and they did a much better job describing the problem -- it was quite obviously a UPS bungle, underneath the address sticker on the package, there was *another* address sticker, with the address of a gun shop in Maryland, which confirmed that they had indeed ordered this thing, and were waiting for it. Amazon doesn't appear to have done anything wrong in this case.

The part that I thought NPR did poorly was, both they and the guy who was the subject of the story kept going on about how dangerous the situation was, and I thought that was kind of over-blown. It was left on his porch for a while, which put it at risk for theft, but the gun was, as far as I can tell, not loaded, and there was no suitable ammunition anywhere around. So, it seems to me that, practically speaking, it was no more or less dangerous than a similarly-sized shovel or crowbar, independently of the presence of pregnant women and other vulnerable people.

When someone shows up with the right ammo, *then* it's dangerous. But not before.

Not an assault rifle (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 2 years ago | (#40932477)

"Assault Rifle" is a military term for a rifle that can be fired as semi-automatic or fully-automatic. The SIG 716 isn't an assault rifle and a Corvette ZR1 isn't tractor trailer.

The author probably meant "assault weapon" but that's a meaningless word for "scary looking gun" The now-expired Assault Weapons Ban defined certain guns by model and feature but mostly it was about looking scary. The gun in question was released this year so it couldn't have qualified based on the model and I don't care enough to check if it would qualify based on cosmetic features.

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