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uTorrent Adds "Featured Torrents" Ads — With No Opt Out (Yet)

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the every-business-syndrome dept.

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wrekkuh writes "BitTorrent, Inc, the company who owns the freeware (but closed-source) BitTorrent client uTorrent, has announced that it will be updating its popular client with 'Featured Torrents.' In a post on uTorrent's forum, the company explained, 'This featured torrent space will be used to offer a variety of different types of content. We are working towards bringing you offers that are relevant to you. This means films, games, music, software ... basically anything that you will find interesting.' In the Q&A portion of their announcement, the company adds 'There is no way to turn in-client offers off.* We will pay attention to feedback, and may change this in the future.' (*The Plus version of the BitTorrent client does not include these ads)."

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Not surprised (5, Insightful)

nanoflower (1077145) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963527)

This isn't really surprising. It's one reason I never upgraded to the latest version when they started tossing in the kitchen sink instead of sticking with just being a great bittorrent client.

Re:Not surprised (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963751)

I love Slashdot, but all the comments below are pretty standard bashing we've come to expect. My first thought was actually another direction: This could actually provide more legitimacy to the protocol. Any company showing you can use the medium for legal, profit-generating activities is a Good Thing in my book. Doubly so if if it's the founders.

Re:Not surprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964071)

or it will just make them a more likely target for a lawsuit, after all they'll be getting paid to show ads to users of a program most of the industry believe is used to primarily pirate content. They'll no doubt see the ad income as lost revenue, just as they claim so for the amount of money people make out of banner ads / server running cost donations on the actual torrent sites.

Re:Not surprised (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963779)

This isn't really surprising. It's one reason I never upgraded to the latest version when they started tossing in the kitchen sink instead of sticking with just being a great bittorrent client.

I'm happy with utorrent 2.2.1. No bullshit adds, no nothing. Just a freaking kick ass torrent client.

Re:Not surprised (5, Informative)

I(rispee_I(reme (310391) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963861)

Running 2.2.1 here, also.

It can be found here [oldversion.com] , if anyone is seeking it.

Fair warning: Versions prior to 1.8 don't support magnet links.

Re:Not surprised (2)

Fishead (658061) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963995)

Thanks! Up... er... Downgraded.

Re:Not surprised (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964065)

Awesome, thanks. I've got version 1.8.2, so it'll be nice to get the highest upgrade before the shit began. Kinda like how Winamp was good at version 3, but not so much anywhere after that.

Re:Not surprised (3, Informative)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964231)

You're misremembering a little—Winamp 3 was the disastrous release that brought in the new skin system, Wasabi. Everyone stuck to 2.95 or so for years and years until Winamp 5 came out, which had support for both skinning systems—but by then the media library was so mediocre, hobbyists had switched to Foobar. AOL mucking things up (WA5 introduced the 'pro' version, I think) didn't help either.

Re:Not surprised (1)

nashv (1479253) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963883)

Exactly. The very day they made a bog box appear in the UI advertising their premium 'Plus' version, I guessed the route it was going and ditched it for : Deluge [deluge-torrent.org] .

PeerBlock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964135)

Who runs torrents without PeerBlock? Once the uTorrent ad servers end up on there, if they aren't already, you could upgrade to your heart's content.

Or if they use DNS, a simple hosts file entry will make them go bye-bye.

farewell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963529)

goodbye utorrent you have served me well.

Re:farewell (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963863)

Yeah, your utorrent has served me well too, signed - a leech

Re:farewell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964121)

you could always... I dunno... NOT upgrade utorrent. Just click 'no' when it asks to update.

Boy, that was difficult

What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowadays? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963533)

I dropped Azererus and Ares like a ton of bricks when they pulled this. Sad, because uTorrent was always awesome.

What alternatives do you suggest?

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963543)

Use rtorrent in linux. It is a terminal torrent program that has long since been the best torrent client, but it has no pretty GUI for people who think you have to click on things.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (2)

TheStonepedo (885845) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963655)

Since rtorrent is a CLI program it can be run unattended in a screen instance instead of cluttering your taskbar/tray/what-have-you.
rtorrent also has Windows binaries available for download and can be installed on OS X via MacPorts.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

CrashandDie (1114135) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963871)

I'll recommend ruTorrent [google.com] , a web frontend for rTorrent. I've been using it as the main interface for my seedbox. No database, no bullshit, just a nice, clean, user interface with great plugins available.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

dcherryholmes (1322535) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964161)

There is also http://code.google.com/p/rtgui/ [google.com] , which is what I use.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963865)

This! I just leave mine running in a screen session, and I hardly ever check it. I just put torrent files in the right directory and everything happens magically.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963879)

Yeah this. Better yet if you're a windows user, get some virtualization software - virtual box and the like. Make yourself a linux virtual machine, download your stuff there using rtorrent, swap your stuff over to windows to use it...

Holy fucking smugness, Batman! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964005)

You are a twat.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (2)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964157)

Rtorrent can be controlled by XMLRPC, so people have written web front ends to it. So if you like a clicky GUI, you can use your browser. RUTorrent [google.com] is probably the best one going.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963545)

Transmission is my current torrent client. I love it. It runs on my server and uses a simple web interface.

I'm not sure if it has a Windows port if that's what you run though.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963685)

Unfortunately it does not have a Windows port.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

amiga3D (567632) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963835)

I'm also loving Transmission. It functions great on my linux and mac computers. Occasionally a pop up appears asking for a donation but that's about it for annoyances. I don't see a problem with uTorrent running ads or a program occasionally asking for a donation. It's free and if you don't like it you can always use an alternative.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (5, Informative)

darkHanzz (2579493) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963547)

Transmission is nice for small servers (it has a web-interface) qBittorrent is good for the laptop/desktops

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963557)

AFAIK Transmission (transmissionbt.com) provides all the same torrent functionality as utorrent and it's open source and cross-platform. It's also got a remote-api and loads of clients, integrated web server etc. I quit using utorrent a few years ago and never looked back..

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (3, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963597)

have they fixed the RSS feed filtering? because uTorrent was the ultimate killer for that one feature for ever.

I can point at an RSS feed and give it a list of filters to match, then it only downloads those in the filter stream PLUS checks to see if it already downloaded that file and skips it if it did.

Halite (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963577)

If you want a client [binarynotions.com] that doesn't rely on Python or Java.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (5, Informative)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963587)

Deluge or (Mac/Linux/BSD only) Transmission

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1, Insightful)

NemosomeN (670035) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963617)

Ditch torrents entirely. Usenet is much, much better, faster, and is really quite cheap. It is also completely legal for the downloader, though the moral implications are identical to torrenting. SABnzbd+ is fantastic.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964031)

Since it's the ACT of downloading pirated material that is illegal in many (most of those that have laws regarding it, afaik) countries, not the source, your statement deserves today's award for unintentionally leading people into ignorance. If it's illegal to download by any other means you can bet your ass it is illegal to get off usenet as well.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (3, Insightful)

Teun (17872) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964083)

As far as I know downloading is at least in most of Europe not illegal, it's the sharing or making available that infringes IP rights.

Because the usenet server is usually seen like a proxy they are generally left alone.

(Beware of the words most of, usual and general)

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963623)

What alternatives do you suggest?

Since the very first time I downloaded a torrent I've always used a command line downloader in a screen session. Now I use bittornado. I tried torrentflux but it seemed clunky compared to my screen solution. GUI seems a weird way to do it... your desktop has to stay logged in and powered up for days, maybe weeks, or you have to VNC to your server?

A quick apt-cache search torrent results in :
bittornado
ctorrent
deluge
ktorrent
rtorrent
torrentflux
unworkable

torrent clients seem to be in the position where mp3 players used to be a decade ago... a large selection of "different" programs that basically do everything the same.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

allo (1728082) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963677)

bitflu is nice.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963687)

What alternatives do you suggest?

I'm interested in this, too. Sure, I could just continue using uTorrent without updating it, nor would the ads really bother me anyways since I don't keep the window open, but if there's anything leaner than uTorrent then I see no reason to keep using it. My needs are as follow: must run on Windows, must support IP-blocklists, must allow me to force encryption on and reject all unencrypted connections, and must allow me to quickly adjust speed limits. So far all the commenters are only suggesting Linux-clients.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (2)

number11 (129686) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963817)

What alternatives do you suggest?

I'm interested in this, too. Sure, I could just continue using uTorrent without updating it, nor would the ads really bother me anyways since I don't keep the window open, but if there's anything leaner than uTorrent then I see no reason to keep using it. My needs are as follow: must run on Windows, must support IP-blocklists, must allow me to force encryption on and reject all unencrypted connections, and must allow me to quickly adjust speed limits.

qBittorrent [sourceforge.net] . I switched to that when uTorrent started getting funky. It's the closest one I could find to what uTorrent used to be. It's cross-platform (Win/Linux/OSX/OS2/BSD), OSS, and meets all your criteria. (Until I started looking, I hadn't realized that it had native support for blocklists, I've been using PeerBlock for that.)

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963703)

Deluge [deluge-torrent.org]

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963745)

Azureus still has the "classic interface"
 
...it's just buried... deeply. Very deeply. As in, I have to google to figure out how to turn it on because it's not immediately obvious how to do it from the GUI. Once you turn off all the "Vuze" cruft, Azureus still makes for a very good client.
 
I'm using Deluge to great effect, moreso since I finally setup an atom-based file server and you can log in to it remotely from another pc/laptop, either through the binary client, or the web interface. deluge-torrent.org [deluge-torrent.org]

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

nashv (1479253) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963889)

Since I use Windows and Linux, I prefer Deluge [deluge-torrent.org] .

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (1)

Psicopatico (1005433) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963963)

It's nearly ten years I use MLDonkey which - despite the name - supports the bittorrent protocol.
It has a server-client architecture, you can put the server remotely and access it via CLI or web interface or via some third party front-ends.

So far it served me very well.

Elseway for the quick download Opera's integrated client works. It's rudimetary and very basic, but it works.

Re:What's available for Bitttorrent clients nowada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964123)

Plenty, take your pick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients [wikipedia.org]

ps. if you want to avoid the sort of crap this article is about, select one which is free software

fairly standard business model nowadays (5, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963535)

They're basically copying what YouTube and Twitter are doing, selling a "featured content" slot.

Re:fairly standard business model nowadays (4, Insightful)

penix1 (722987) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963957)

They're basically copying what YouTube and Twitter are doing, selling a "featured content" slot.

Which is one reason not to use either of those if you don't want to be profiled and have ads targeting you. From TFS...

the company explained, 'This featured torrent space will be used to offer a variety of different types of content. We are working towards bringing you offers that are relevant to you.'

The only way to do that is to record all of your activity on bittorrent. Once they record that, the next step will be to hand it over to the government / media industry attorneys for later prosecution.

I propose a new name, MAXTorrent. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963537)

MAXTorrent - for all your rss and media suggestion needs!
how can you be very tiny and have a banner fetcher/shower(I presume some html component)?

or how about very tiny something that does. sure it's tiny +, but still could just brand it as torrent plus.
"Torrent Plus
Play it Safe. Play it Now. Play it Anywhere.
        Protect your computer with integrated antivirus
        Get the codecs you need to enjoy HD video
        Easily move files to your favorite devices
"

Still not upgrading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963553)

I'm still using v2 as they broke the rss in 3 when they pushed it on me. I still have no clue whether they have fixed the rss as their release notes & forum refuse to answer.

They also broke their other network settings with lame excuses with it was a good idea on their part. Never downloading anything is not a clever idea...

hmm (2)

a_fuzzyduck (979684) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963561)

this bloat won't be in the pirate version of Torrent, will it?

Re:hmm (2)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963619)

A pirate version of torrent? Is there a torrent for this? :-)

Showing ads to thieves (3, Interesting)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963565)

Interesting business model.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1, Redundant)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963639)

Exactly. I was going to post the exact same thing. Too bad I don't have mod points right now.

I find it very ironic that BitTorrent Inc wants to make money using ads off essentially being an illegal distributor of mostly copyrighted content to those mostly illegally downloading copyrighted content, much of which are shows in which ads have been stripped out of them.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963731)

Except they don't distribute anything but their own client. It's the users that do all of the distribution.

That's like saying you find it odd that Google advertises through Chrome because Chrome can be used for illegal purposes.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (2)

kthreadd (1558445) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963955)

Except they don't distribute anything but their own client. It's the users that do all of the distribution.

That's like saying you find it odd that Google advertises through Chrome because Chrome can be used for illegal purposes.

In theory yes but lets face it, it is likely that most uTorrent users use the program for a slightly illegal purpose.
It's a difference between "can be used for" and "is mostly used for", Chrome is the first and uTorrent the latter.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963683)

Not sure if funny or sarcastic, but there is merit behind it.

Most people who do pirate things only do it simply because it is a better service than paid models. They hate being shafted, or told what they can do with their content.
They hate having to buy 1500 copies of the same thing because they do anything and everything to try and prevent you from consuming your own content.

And since the more vocal media companies "have no plans to ever support internet distribution" (their words, paraphrased), it'll continue to happen.
Those who take advantage of the internet are going to win out in the end since they are the ones who will be respected more. And it shows even now, never mind some time in the future.
Most people who pirate would be converted easily to purchasing if there was a better service involved. Dealing with pirate copies of things isn't always easy or worth it either. (especially when it comes to games or subbed copies where the subbers were absolutely awful)
Obviously not the angry bunch on here who hate anything and everything to do with advertising in some seriously childish / paranoid way (as if anyone cares about your boring lives, you're a number), but the general public yes.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

Stirling Newberry (848268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963875)

Cracking down on copyvio downloads works about as well as cracking down on underage smoking, the real problem with smoking isn't who does it, it is the product itself and the society that people live in. Smoking and capital culture are both ways of making unhappy lives slightly less unbearable for the duration of consumption.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963737)

That's not the only example of how downloading pirated content has started to show various perverted business models. When first TPB blocks were put into action here in Finland, many people started paying for a cheap VPN to circumvent the block, thus paying again for the pirated material.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963849)

Yeah, I would love to see the ??AAs advertise here.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963877)

Considering that there is more that uses Bit torrent (WoW, Linux distributions, etc...) that is not infringing (Hint: It is a different crime on the books...it is not theft...) calling this that is a big fat line of BS.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963977)

Considering that there is more that uses Bit torrent (WoW, Linux distributions, etc...) that is not infringing (Hint: It is a different crime on the books...it is not theft...) calling this that is a big fat line of BS.

And do you honestly think that WoW and Linux distributions is what most uTorrent users use that program for?

Re:Showing ads to thieves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963925)

File sharers tend to spend a lot of money on legal content as well actually. There are other reasons for pirating (eg, LAN play in SC II) and avoiding viruses, rootkits and malware packaged with legal copies of modern games.

As to your misuse of the word "theft" to refer to sharing, see this handy guide: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963989)

File sharers tend to spend a lot of money on legal content as well actually. There are other reasons for pirating (eg, LAN play in SC II) and avoiding viruses, rootkits and malware packaged with legal copies of modern games.

So pirated material doesn't include viruses, rootkits or malware?

As to your misuse of the word "theft" to refer to sharing, see this handy guide: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/2008/8/27/12/27311d2d7c84e8f3e3f5036ed08d198b.jpg [buzzfed.com]

Sure but that doesn't make it OK.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (4, Informative)

Nyder (754090) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963959)

Interesting business model.

Okay, first off, downloading copyrighted material isn't stealing.

Second, while a lot of piracy happens using bittorrent, a LOT of legal businesses use it also. For example, The Internet Archive is now online via Bit Torrent. http://bt1.archive.org/hotlist.php [archive.org]

Re:Showing ads to thieves (0)

kthreadd (1558445) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964025)

Okay, first off, downloading copyrighted material isn't stealing.

That doesn't make it OK.

Second, while a lot of piracy happens using bittorrent, a LOT of legal businesses use it also. For example, The Internet Archive is now online via Bit Torrent. http://bt1.archive.org/hotlist.php [archive.org]

Of course there's a lot of legal use. But is that really what most uTorrent users use it for?

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1)

Havenwar (867124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964049)

Might also want to mention WoW patches, which is probably one of the largest legitimate uses of bit-torrent today. Well, aside perhaps from linux-isos, but the most WELL KNOWN legitimate use.

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1, Insightful)

markdavis (642305) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964193)

Indeed there are legit uses for torrents. But if you add it all up, I bet 99.5+% of torrent traffic is the [illegal] exchange of copyrighted, commercial video, music, and software (and in that order, by volume).

Re:Showing ads to thieves (1, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964175)

Pirates spend more on media than non-pirates.

News Flash.... (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963569)

You know they dont point a gun at you and force you to upgrade to get the ad's. I'm still running the ad-free older version and it works great.
If you dont like ad's dont upgrade.

Re:News Flash.... (2)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963755)

New users will end up with the new version. Also they can, via EULA, forbid you to use older versions. Or even make them stop working.

Surprise (5, Insightful)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963571)

I had an odd experience on the uTorrent forums recently.

I uploaded my own books to some torrent sites, and posted links to them. From the people on Demonoid, Pirate Bay, ISOHunt, and 4Chan, I got friendly and encouraging replies.

The admins on the uTorrent forum deleted the thread, and banned my account, saying that they didn't want spamming scum like me.

Re:Surprise (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963615)

When you say "your own books", do you mean books you wrote yourself, that you hold copyright on?

This sounds like a good story worth an article.

Re:Surprise (2)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963727)

Yup, I'm an indie author, and I uploaded my own books to the torrent sites.

Before I made the post, I read the uTorrent forum rules, and made sure the images were small, etc.

I was quite shocked when I saw the message saying the thread was deleted!

Re:Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963769)

uTorrent forums are pretty quick to censor and ban in my experience. Too bad for us.

Re:Surprise (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963807)

Hmmm, I guess that explains why there isn't much in the way of discussion there...!

post here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963815)

4 chan ya say eh how would you like to get your own website and then added to say my own search engine
i run the united hackers association and figure if your adding to all those places go for it and add to everything

Surprise, really? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964043)

You need to exercise some basic common sense. The uTorrent forums are only for discussion of, and assistance with, uTorrent. There is nothing remotely like a section for content releases.

Torrent (for Windows)
Torrent Plus
Developers
Torrent Mac
Torrent Linux
Apps
Non-English Torrent

I find it hard to believe that a legitimate author would consider posting their work in any of these let alone think that they're doing anything other than leaving a stinking pile of spam.

Re:Surprise, really? (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964111)

Yes, surprise.

There's also a 'Chat' section, which contains non-uTorrent related threads such as 'AntiVirus Of Choice?'

Re:Surprise (4, Insightful)

The Mighty Buzzard (878441) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963991)

That's pretty much expected given that the uTorrent forums aren't for file sharing but for discussion of the client. By strict definition, you were spamming.

Re:Surprise (2)

jones_supa (887896) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964045)

Maybe I'm old school, but in my books spamming means posting unwanted advertisements. By my definition, he possibly was sending an offtopic message.

Re:Surprise (1)

Drathos (1092) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964165)

unwanted advertisement

To the uTorrent forums, that's exactly what it was.

Re:Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964023)

Next time, try sharing something that's not pure garbage.

Why not ? (3, Funny)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963585)

Why not ? Bittorrent is a great company, I am grateful to them for creating and opening their protocol. Obviously, I won't use their official client as I am allergic to advertisement, but if they manage to find clients for this kind of things and have a cash flow to finance R&D in bittorrent, kudos to them !

Re:Why not ? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963689)

You're grateful to Bram Cohen. He designed the protocol and created the original client in 2001, and formed BitTorrent, Inc. with two other people in 2004. (They presumably wanted to monetise it.) The protocol has not really changed much since 2003, apart from some extensions such as DHT trackers and peer exchange for more reliable swarming. And neither of them originated from that company.

The company AFAIK hasn't done pretty much anything noteworthy apart from purchasing uTorrent in 2007 and rebranding it.

Another act which shows the difference (3, Insightful)

Stirling Newberry (848268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963605)

between free as in beer, and free as in speech.

You don't know what's actually in the free beer, and by the time you get it, you can't take the mouse droppings out.

Re:Another act which shows the difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963747)

To take a literal approach to what you just said, what kind of beer to you drink? Do you grow all of your own barley and hops, then brew all of your own beer so that you know what is in it? Do you bottle up jugs of it to take with you when you go hang out with friends? How do your friends know what's in it?

Re:Another act which shows the difference (2)

Stirling Newberry (848268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963915)

The kind I brew, or the kind that charges me for the beer as opposed to the Swedish Bikini team advertising campaign.

If you aren't paying the natural cost of the thing, you aren't the customer, you are the product. This insight occurred to Carlo Lorenzini in 1883.

Re:Another act which shows the difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963971)

You have to pay for everything in one way or another.

Wayne? (1)

allo (1728082) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963671)

slow news day?

Re:Wayne? (1)

Stirling Newberry (848268) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963917)

All the fast news is recuperating after being in the olympics.

Pirate uTorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963699)

Why not? Put the shoe on the other foot and pirate the paid version. It's still a really good torrent client, in spite of the bullshit that keeps getting added to it.

Missed opportunity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963711)

... the client should have automatically torrented each of the "offers".

There could be no schadenfraude better than a lot of pirates bursting through their monthly data caps and having to pay $1,000 in excess fees!

a good host file is a wonderful thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963719)

I use uTorrent for it's easy to use network proxy setup feature. But with this announcement, my reaction is, "Meh, I will block ads with my host file."

Disable autoupdate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963741)

I believe
Preferences / Advanced / btapps.auto_update_btinstalls: true > false
will do the job.

what is utorrent (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40963785)

no really oh i remember i stopped when bittorrent bought it and of course they are owned by warner brothers,

More legitimate use (3, Insightful)

dirk (87083) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963903)

I see this as a good thing. First, as long as the ads aren't obnoxious, it will get a little money for the uTorrent team. Second, it will help encourage legitimate use of torrents. One of the knock on torrents and why they are so often throttled and blocked is that they are a tool for piracy. While there are currently legitimate uses, I would suspect that 95% or more of usage is for piracy. If these ads expose more people to legitimate torrent content and help get the legitimate use up, that is a good thing all around.

Re:More legitimate use (1)

Nyder (754090) | more than 2 years ago | (#40963979)

I see this as a good thing. First, as long as the ads aren't obnoxious, it will get a little money for the uTorrent team. Second, it will help encourage legitimate use of torrents. One of the knock on torrents and why they are so often throttled and blocked is that they are a tool for piracy. While there are currently legitimate uses, I would suspect that 95% or more of usage is for piracy. If these ads expose more people to legitimate torrent content and help get the legitimate use up, that is a good thing all around.

First off, how do the Ads make them money? click thru or by people viewing them?

And um, I'm 100% sure you are just throwing out 95% like you are an expert. Are you? No?

STFU.

Try Qbittorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#40964093)

Try Qbittorrent same feature open source , compiled for most platforms, actively updated and no bullshit

http://www.qbittorrent.org

Another step away from the roots as "Torrent" (1)

Havenwar (867124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964101)

Torrent it used to be called, lightweight and fast and non-intrusive. That's why I started using it, and probably many others as well. As it got more bloated I could have abandoned it, but then I've got more than a few extra gigabytes of ram these days and my cpu doesn't exactly hiccup at any extra work it does, so... I don't really care it's grown a bit. It's still within my comfort zone just for being simple and doing what I need done.

So they're going to start showing sponsored content now? Fine with me. I have never, ever used the search function in their client. I always find my torrents on third party sites, and they are either sent by magnet link directly to the client, or torrent files put in a folder that the client is watching. I only ever directly interact with the client once every now and then when I open it up to check on the progress on something, and clear out any completed downloads from the last week while I'm there. Ads won't be in my view for long enough to disturb me. I am not sure i'll even notice them.

That being said, I'd consider moving to another client... if there was really any serious competitors for windows that did things better. Not as good, better. I have tried a few, seems to be six of one, half a dozen of the other. They get the job done, and any particular bells and whistles they offer, I don't need. All I need is a download queue, good connection settings to work around my crap router, and the ability to keep scanning a folder for new torrent files. If it's got that, I'm golden. But that doesn't mean I'll do actual work to switch to such a client unless uTorrent fucks up completely... and they'd have to get pretty annoying to do that. Popups, or some such, or degrading the actual basic functionality of the program.

I bet most users feel pretty much the same... a few people on here shout loudly about change, maybe a few people will try something else out, but if it's work, it's not worth it. Not for something that spends most of its time working in the background, unseen, anyway.

Re:Another step away from the roots as "Torrent" (1)

Havenwar (867124) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964107)

And of course slashdot can't handle the letter "mju", so woooo for slashdot!

It is always the same story (5, Insightful)

Golden_Rider (137548) | more than 2 years ago | (#40964181)

Devs create small, easy to use program which does the one job it was designed to do very well.
Lots of people start using the program because it is good and lightweight and not annoying.
Devs think "oh, our program is very good, but we cannot simply leave it as it is, we need to have MORE FEATURES".
More features get put in, making users angry, because they use the program for its ONE job it initially was designed to do, not for anything else, because they already have OTHER programs which do those jobs better anyway.
Devs think "oh, time to make some money".
Ads get put in, plus "oh you can buy the premium version".
Users leave.

First Azureus, which transformed from a simple bittorrent client to a "your personal multimedia database/video streaming/community" monstrosity called "Vuze". Now uTorrent goes down the same road, from a small, lightweight "I can only download and nothing else and that is my whole selling point" bittorrent client to a "you can stream video and organize your multimedia experience for all your mobile gadgets" monster and now they add advertising on top of it, but oh, you can buy the premium version without advertising.

Thanks, but no. I'll just move on to another free and lightweight bittorrent client, because that's why I came from Azureus(Vuze) to uTorrent in the first place. But now you turned into Vuze, too. It's not as if there aren't any other clients around, uTorrent really does not have any distinguishing features, so I just kept using it our of pure laziness to install something else and put up with the added bloat instead. But when devs really think their bittorrent client is awesome enough to make users put up with advertising, it's time to move on.

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