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West Nile Virus Outbreak Puts Dallas In State of Emergency

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the those-mosquitoes-are-obviously-lost dept.

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Penurious Penguin writes with news from the BBC that the city of Dallas "is experiencing a widespread outbreak of mosquito-borne West Nile Virus that has caused and appears likely to continue to cause widespread and severe illness and loss of life," and writes that the city "has declared a state of emergency. West Nile virus can be asymptomatic or produce multiple symptoms, but can also lead to fevers, and the potentially fatal meningitis or encephalitis. Birds are the most common carriers and mosquitoes are the vector for human infection."

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Buy DEET (5, Informative)

arcite (661011) | more than 2 years ago | (#41008949)

Buy DEET, 50-90% concentration, apply liberally. The higher concentration stuff is rather strong, but you can spray it on your clothes (ie. Socks, shoes, sleeves).

Re:Buy DEET (5, Informative)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 2 years ago | (#41008993)

>> you can spray it on your clothes

Not synthetics, however, which tend to degrade from DEET.

nylon (4, Funny)

nten (709128) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009219)

Nylon is fine, but it will destroy other stuff. Permethrin should only be sprayed on clothes, but it does a good job too, actually kills the things.

  I think we should bring back DDT worldwide, they have lost some of their developed immunities by now. Once they start developing immunities we can start with the organochlorides, then the organophosphates, then the pyrethrins, and by then they should be vulnerable to DDT again. Sure, we won't have any birds or flowering plants, but we can get by on wind pollinated crops. Probably need to devote some extra money to cancer research too.

Re:nylon (5, Funny)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009789)

Honey bees are not native to the US, so no big deal. Native REAL AMERICAN flowering plants will do just fine. It's those illegal immigrant flowering plants that will disappear.

Re:nylon (5, Insightful)

budgenator (254554) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010401)

There is nothing wrong with DDT, you just have to use per the label instructions i.e. indoors; it does bio-accumulate in fish and does nasty things to birds that eat fish, which is why it's not used outdoors. In mammals like Humans, its very safe, used to be used for delousing people and the Sales-driods used to eat it by the teaspoon to demonstrate it's safety. This does mean that DDT is not a good fit for mosquito control in countries where window screens are wide spread; it's great for bedbugs. Bacillus thuringiensis israeliensis works on mosquitos outdoors.

Re:nylon (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010417)

You know what else works really well on mosquitoes?

Napalm.

Of course, I shudder to think of what would happen should they develop an immunity to that...

Re:nylon (4, Insightful)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010793)

You know what else works really well on mosquitoes?

Bats.

Re:nylon (2)

gman003 (1693318) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011257)

Oh, that works too. There's a bat that's nested in my attic for the past few summers - I call him Bruce, for obvious reasons. He even seems to have formed an alliance, or at least a truce, with my cats (work great on the moles and possums).

Now if only I had something to kill all the spiders... napalm perhaps?

Re:nylon (1)

Erikderzweite (1146485) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011515)

Spiders eat mosquitos too, name each one of them Patrick and call it a day.

Re:Buy DEET (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009407)

Does kill the plastic used on most electronic gadgets though

Re:Buy DEET (0)

MisterSquid (231834) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009715)

Buy DEET, 50-90% concentration, apply liberally. The higher concentration stuff is rather strong, but you can spray it on your clothes (ie. Socks, shoes, sleeves).

That's it. Toxify your local environment and expose yourself to biochemically active substances...

Why not just move the fuck away from places with mosquitoes?

Re:Buy DEET (4, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010053)

Where?

Re:Buy DEET (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010317)

The moon, of course!

Re:Buy DEET (1)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010775)

move the fuck away

Where?

A-W-A-Y

there are place on earth without mosquitoe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011199)

You can try McMurdo station, the whole antartica, maybe artic shelves, some mountain with permanent ice shelves...

Re:Buy DEET (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011547)

Antarctica and certain parts of Siberia.

Re:Buy DEET (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010287)

Where might you suggest we go? The bastards live everywhere.

Antarctica (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010389)

We don't have any mosquitoes in Antarctica ;-)

Re:Buy DEET (2)

couchslug (175151) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011241)

"Toxify your local environment and expose yourself to biochemically active substances..."

Life is full of tradeoffs, and you still die in the end.

Re:Buy DEET (2)

Ollabelle (980205) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010149)

Lower concentrations work fine too. http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/toolkit/DEET.pdf [cdc.gov] . It wears off sooner, but if you're not going out for hours at a time, no big deal.

No one has posted in minutes! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41008953)

I guess all the other would-be first posters have died of West Nile.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41008971)

They are all off changing their PSN passwords

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (5, Informative)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009303)

Unlikely ;)

For most, they won't even know they are exposed. This is a lot like SARS in that respect. It only severely effects about 1% of those infected. About 20% get mild symptoms, headaches, etc.

It does adversely affect those with compromised immune systems though (the elderly, immunocompromised, etc).

30% concentration of DEET is recommended for adults. Certainly NOT 90%.
10% DEET concentration for children.

The concentrations the poster above is suggesting would be toxic.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009445)

The concentrations you are suggesting would be worthless. I have tried both and only the concentrations that can only be applied to clothes and not skin seem to keep the bastards away.

I suggest we start fighting fire with fire, lets create some diseases that kill mosquitos.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009557)

You should probably let the CDC know that...

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/qa/insect_repellent.htm [cdc.gov]

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009713)

lets create some diseases that kill mosquitos.

Dragonflies and bats are the mosquitoes natural enemies. Put up bat boxes to get more bats and they will have a field day munching on the buggers. The one downside to dragonflies is they need swamps and such to breed, the same place as mosquitoes do.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010121)

in your scenario you get a balance with mosquitoes that still carry the disease. So, it's not really any good.
Genetically engineered sterile male mosquitoes is how to go about it.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010299)

Bats only go after mosquitoes if there is nothing better to eat (like moths). It would take a whole lot of bats to make any appreciable dent in the mosquito population.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (2)

Neil_Brown (1568845) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009739)

The concentrations you are suggesting would be worthless.

I can only relate to my experience, but I agree — when I was in the jungle/rainforest part of Sabah, Borneo, we attempted to use DEET to keep the mosquitos from landing on us. The stuff from camping stores seemed to attract, rather than repel them — even going up to as higher percentage as we had with us (around 90%, from memory), and it was not much use, even when applied directly to the (small areas) of exposed skin.

Covering up as much skin as possible, and hoping that the mosquitos found others in the group more attractive, were pretty much the only successful approaches.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010177)

I don't need to wear Off, I just need you to wear On.

Re:No one has posted in minutes! (1)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010825)

I suggest we start fighting fire with fire, lets create some diseases that kill mosquitos.

Nuke it from orbit.

huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41008963)

Isn't it a little pathetic that we're not hearing anything about this from domestic sources?

What... does this affect a corporate sponsor in some negative way?

Man-Made climate change (2)

arcite (661011) | more than 2 years ago | (#41008991)

Rising temperatures, increase drought, more importantly, increased rain and flooding, will all ensure the spread mosquito vectors. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the newly mutated strains of Malaria to make a resurgence. Par the course, all we can do is adapt to this new life.

Re:Man-Made climate change (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009063)

Man made liberals create fantasy's as well. Mock religion but not this fake shit you speak of. Go on keep posting and using electricity to do so. Normal people with brains might take you idiots seriously once you stop using electricity, driving, cell phones and on and on until then its a control thing and money grab. Free Speech for the dumb.

Re:Man-Made climate change (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009149)

Man made liberals create fantasy's as well. Mock religion but not this fake shit you speak of. .

Praise the Lord! That feverish delirium and uncontrollable shivering is evidence of the Holy Spirit upon you!

Re:Man-Made climate change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009281)

What the hell is an Amish doing on a tech site?

Re:Man-Made climate change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009553)

" fantasy's..."

2 spelling mistakes in 1 word, I rest my case.

Re:huh? (1)

Enry (630) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009017)

West Nile can't be stopped by hordes of rednecks with CCWs. (kidding on the square)

Re:huh? (1, Insightful)

stiggle (649614) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009035)

But West Nile can stop the hordes of rednecks :-)

Re:huh? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009111)

Dallas and the big cities in texas are super liberal actually. We need that population around.

Re:huh? (2, Insightful)

whargoul (932206) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009285)

Uh, no we're not. The liberals you speak of are mostly California refugees that are fleeing the product of the choices they've made, laws and regulations they've mandated and politicians they've voted in. They're broke and it's their fault, but they'll never understand nor admit that it's the result of the choices they've made. Now they're spreading and they're going to fuck the rest of us the way they've fucked themselves.

Re:huh? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009579)

Actually, the reason California has its debt load is because of following a Conservative anti-tax policy. That, and their electricity deregulation which gave boatloads of money to companies like Enron all in the name of a free market.

You'll never understand nor admit that it's the right-wing policies that harmed California, nor that the fix is relatively simple.

BTW, if California is broke, then so is Texas. They both have huge debt loads.

Re:huh? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010003)

"the reason California has its debt load is because of following a Conservative anti-tax policy"

Good grief! The stupidity of the things I read on this site continues to astound me. How can you possibly say these things with a straight face?

ALL the liberal run cities and states are going broke one after the other with California and New York at the top of the list. Anti-tax? Are you high? California has already had what three cities declare bankruptcy and still the liberals tax and spend like there is a money tree growing on every street corner.

http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/california

"California's Top Individual Income Tax Rate Is Second Highest in the Nation
With seven brackets and a top rate of 10.3 percent for those earning over $1,000,000, California's individual income tax has the second highest rate and one of the most highly progressive structures in the nation. In 2010, California's state-level individual income tax collections were $1,229 per person, which ranked 5th highest nationally. Since most small businesses are S Corporations, partnerships, or sole proprietorships, they pay their business taxes at the rates for individuals. That makes California's taxes on small businesses some of the most burdensome in the nation."

C'mon, you can't possibly be *this* stupid are you?

Re:huh? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011141)

"the reason California has its debt load is because of following a Conservative anti-tax policy"

Good grief! The stupidity of the things I read on this site continues to astound me. How can you possibly say these things with a straight face?

Because they're true. I'm familiar with Proposition 13 even if you aren't. I noticed what really happened in California after its power deregulation and who profited from it. See I know it's the Conservative Mantra that liberals, especially those California liberals, are evil, and do things wrong, but you never check the facts.

You just go with what you think you know. Because it must be true.

ALL the liberal run cities and states are going broke one after the other with California and New York at the top of the list. Anti-tax? Are you high? California has already had what three cities declare bankruptcy and still the liberals tax and spend like there is a money tree growing on every street corner.

Cities, huh?

And what have those cities been doing? Have they been keeping their tax policies sound, or have they been following right-wing ideas of keeping taxes low, relying on growth, and hoping it didn't blow up in their face?

Do look it up.

Besides, chances are some of the bankruptcies are the result of financial improprieties, much like say Birmingham in Alabama or even Orange County back in the 90s.

It's hard, I know, to blame the bankers, for screwing a government entity over, but they can and do. And then the conservatives give them medals and cheer them for being the REAL producers.

http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/california

"California's Top Individual Income Tax Rate Is Second Highest in the Nation
With seven brackets and a top rate of 10.3 percent for those earning over $1,000,000, California's individual income tax has the second highest rate and one of the most highly progressive structures in the nation. In 2010, California's state-level individual income tax collections were $1,229 per person, which ranked 5th highest nationally. Since most small businesses are S Corporations, partnerships, or sole proprietorships, they pay their business taxes at the rates for individuals. That makes California's taxes on small businesses some of the most burdensome in the nation."

C'mon, you can't possibly be *this* stupid are you?

C'mon, you can't possibly be stupid enough to think that analyzing things in a vacuum is valid. You're just throwing out statistics and hoping they'll lead things how you want.

No wait, you're listening to TaxFoundation.org, a group with its own slant on things. Oh sure, they insist they are non-partisan, but others disagree. Maybe you don't realize that California's tax burden includes massive payments to the federal coffers that they don't get back. You don't bother to check how much revenue California actually gets from its taxes, or how it's allocated. You don't see that California's corporate tax revenues have dropped as a result of changes in tax policy, not business operations. You don't see the price of tax cuts, you just think that if only they cut them, then magically revenues would go up without consequence.

Compare California's net tax burden today, to what it was before Proposition 13. Make sure you control for inflation.

You'll see a different picture than the one the Tax Foundation wants to present.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011291)

You are an idiot. I know California history also.

Keep drinking the kool aid drone. Nothing you have pointed out indicates conservative anti-tax policy, that is utter foolishness. The place is a cesspool of liberal tax and spend politicians - and voters. And it's getting worse.

You want to see what conservative anti-tax policy does, look at Wisconsin.

Re:huh? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010171)

There broke because conservatives change taxes without changing services. It's their overall approach is to divorce the idea of taxes from services, cut taxes and then watch everything fail.

It's nice to know you live up to the Texas reputation of inbred morons.

Re:huh? (1)

xerxesVII (707232) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010391)

Come to the Old East in the coming weeks, whargoul. I'd guess 4 out of 5 yards with signs in them will be repping D, going by previous elections.

Re:huh? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011045)

There must be a lot of Californians there. That explains all the In-N-Out Burgers I saw when I was there this summer.

A little. (4, Informative)

neoshroom (324937) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009041)

It is in area news [dallasnews.com] , but it hasn't hit the national airwaves yet. However, the local news doesn't describe it as a "state of emergency" like the BBC does. Maybe though they just don't want to get people overly scared. What is happening is pretty much the same as what happened in New York a couple years ago.

Re:A little. (1, Informative)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010413)

In reality, all a "state of emergency" means is that state money is available to combat the problem. There may also be some laws put into effect (like getting fined if you leave standing water on your property). It does not mean that things are dire or that drastic measures are being taken, which is how many people read it.

Re:huh? (2)

the plant doctor (842044) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009121)

Is is that you didn't look or just aren't willing to?

CBS News [cbsnews.com]

Re:huh? (1)

ghinckley68 (590599) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009485)

I was visiting family there last couple of weeks and they are freeked out about. Its all over there news.

We get here in orlando in the summer all the time so we are use to it.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011085)

Perhaps you need to re-evaluate each of your specific "domestic sources." Think of this as an opportunity to more easily identify entertainment which poses as news.

Sure hope they don't expect the gov'mnt to step in (-1, Troll)

fredrated (639554) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009003)

After all, these people think the government is good for nothing, so let them catch the virus and die.

Re:Sure hope they don't expect the gov'mnt to step (0, Redundant)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009075)

What a hateful, ignorant comment. But then, hatred is always found next to ignorance, so I suppose there is no surprise here.

I'm in VA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009005)

Slashdot, Tell me why this is nothing to worry about.

Re:I'm in VA... (-1)

jpapon (1877296) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009201)

The article states seven people have died so far this year from West Nile.

You're much more likely to die in a car accident or by lightning strike.

Re:I'm in VA... (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010257)

That post was not insightful. deserves -1 ignorant.

So you are saying we shouldn't worry about it until thousands die?
How about you let the smart people handles and you just worry about getting your ticket to the 'B' ark.

Re:I'm in VA... (1)

BrentH (1154987) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010727)

Contrary to car accidents or lightning strikes, the West Nile virus is contagious and its spread may accelerate.

2012! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009055)

IT IS BEGINNING!

It is as the mayans foretold, the apocalypse is beginning, this is merely the first in a long chain of events, the arabian spring, a black man becoming president, the jews and now this virus named after a river in that dirtiest of continents - Africa. Did you know that whole area is full of moslems, see the connection? It is as has been foretold, repent now. There is still time to give yourself up to the lord and savior Jesus Christ, the lamb of god.

Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (5, Informative)

bengoerz (581218) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009131)

I live in Dallas. People are not dying in the streets. We are not living out Monty Python's "Bring Out Your Dead" sketch.

The "emergency" was declared primarily so we could gain access to 5 pesticide-spraying planes from the Texas Department of Emergency Management [dallasobserver.com] .

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009217)

We are not living out Monty Python's "Bring Out Your Dead" sketch.

Dallas is more of a crunchy frog town.

Dallas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010551)

Dallas is more of a crunchy frog town.

Especially the part where the Inspector says "FUCK your sales, we've got to protect the public!"

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (1)

mrzaph0d (25646) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009383)

No kidding. 14 people dead and it's an emergency?

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009457)

This is 2012, not 1812 or even 1912. We have the technology and resolve to reach near-0% death rates for certain diseases.

It's not that people's lives are worth more now. In the past, people just accepted death at a young age because there was no way to prevent it. Now, because we have much more capacity to prevent death, we're less tolerant of allowing it to happen.

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (2)

Trepidity (597) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010385)

I dunno, 14 people dying of something in eight months is still pretty low even by modern standards. About 100 people have been murdered in Dallas so far this year, so you're still more likely to be shot than die of West Nile.

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011455)

I think the issue is IF the rates are increasing, then it could mean they are losing control of the mosquitoes and the disease.

A lot of places in the USA aren't very different from Africa. But you bunch aren't dying from as many nasty diseases.

All it takes is for people to screw up big time and one of the diseases could take hold.

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (1)

Ryanrule (1657199) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009511)

Sorry for the wishful thinking...

Re:Resources from TX Dept of Emergency Management (1)

The Raven (30575) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009749)

Are there no pesticide spraying planes NOT owned by the Emergency Management department? I can't imagine that it is that complicated or expensive to hire crop dusters.

Spray planes in Texas (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010839)

There are hundreds of spray planes here in Texas, privately owned, all sitting idle and their owners/pilots are dying for work right now due to the nationwide drought that has killed off most of the farm crops this year and eliminated this season's work for the pilots. One of my best friends owns and flies an Air Tractor and the past two years he's only gotten about half the spraying contracts he normally gets so he's desperate for work so he doesn't have to sell the plane. He's looking into the mosquito spraying contracts, but the state is making it so difficult to get the extra licenses needed for spraying mosquitoes that it seems like they're deliberately protecting someone's monopoly or something.

Vampire Mosquito's (1)

na1led (1030470) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009325)

Here in Maine, the Mosquito's will drain your blood long before the West Nile Virus can do any damage. It's been an unusually humid, and wet summer.

Re:Vampire Mosquito's (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010343)

But, to offset that, you can track the (not so) little bastards by radar.

Re:Vampire Mosquito's (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010913)

Should visit the outer banks in NC, they can kill the deer there.

But... What About The Mosquitoes? (5, Funny)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009377)

Won't someone think about the poor endangered malaria mosquito? This majestic creature used to roam the plains in the billions, but thanks to eradication efforts and habitat encroachments in now roams the plains in slightly fewer billions! You know what the problem is? It's fair weather environmentalists! Oh sure, it's easy to get behind an endangered animal when it's cute and fuzzy! But they're nowhere to be found when it has six legs, sucks human blood and helps spread a deadly disease! I suppose if another spraying program is enacted, they won't be down at city hall protesting! Won't someone think of the mosquitoes?!

West Nile Emergency?!? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009531)

What crack have the Dallas County Commissioners been smoking that John Whiley Price [wikipedia.org] has been dealing around the County Courthouse? We've had West Nile outbreaks every year since 2002ish (as I recall) and the city used ground spray trucks previously. We've had approximateley 100 people every year contract the issue and about 20 die from it. I agree with the above comment that the emergency is manufactured, but I suspect it's so that the county can get access to cheaper to purchase pesticides that have a higher chance of side effects.

Those that get infected are already on the watch list for diseases (Young, Old, Immune system compromised). It's quite simple how to avoid it

1. Don't go outside at dawn/dusk
2. Drain standing water pools
3. Wear a decent bug spray.
4. Wear clothing over most parts of your body if you must go outside for extended periods of time

Needless to say that the night when they overfly my neighborhood I'm going to shut all my windows/doors and not think about what's happening outside.

No biggie. (0)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009567)

I guess its a good thing that according to a astonishingly big portion of USians think the US dosn't require public gouvernment-funded health care. Guess the free market will take care of this too. ...
Just saying. ...
For the US sake, I hope some hardcore anti-healthcare people get bitten and learn a lesson or two.

Re:No biggie. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41009797)

Currently the only medical treatment for West Nile Virus is: rest, and drink plenty of fluids. If you get it, you might die or you might not. Health care -- however it is funded -- doesn't have much to do with the outcome.

Re:No biggie. (2)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009947)

Severe West Nile is treated with supportive care. It makes a tremendous difference to survival rates and, since you're hospitalized, potentially for quite a while, it's probably fairly expensive in the US.

Fearmonger (2)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009717)

This is a bunch of fearmongering BS. There were dire warnings on national news this morning, too.

So what is the extent of the "widespread outbreak" that is causing all the disease, mayhem and death that "appears likely to continue to cause widespread and severe illness and loss of life"?

Almost 700 cases have been reported across the country

WOW! Almost 700 cases across the country! Just this year! They don't actually say how many in Texas, or Dallas. Does that mean 700 deaths? No. 700 serious illnesses? No. 700 people, though, right? No.

There have been cases of infection reported in people, birds or mosquitoes

Ah. This is cause for a panic and a state of emergency? What for?

The move clears the way for aerial spraying to kill infected mosquitoes that transmit the disease.

Ah - there we go. Hmmm. "Don't worry about the stuff being sprayed out of those planes, citizen. It's for your protection!"

Re:Fearmonger (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 2 years ago | (#41009937)

> stuff being sprayed out of those planes

hypnogas used to get people to take off the tinfoil hats.

Watch out next will be the mind ray broadcasters installed in the smart meters.

Re:Fearmonger (1)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010361)

I guess you don't remember what they used to use for mosquitoes: DDT. Check it out - it was safe for humans, but didn't turn out so well for the fish and birds.

But, you know, you should trust whatever it is they are spraying these days. I'm sure it's perfectly safe. Anyone that questions it is bound to be a conspiracy nut. Right?

Re:Fearmonger (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010339)

". This is cause for a panic and a state of emergency? What for?"
what you, and others on Slashdot don't seem to have any grasp on is that this is an indicator. Left unattended and it will be tens of thousands of people. Why can't you people grasp the idea of cutting it short?

Also coming to the US is Dengay fever.
Another thing we should stop short.

"Ah - there we go."
Ah, you're a loon.

Re:Fearmonger (1)

oDDmON oUT (231200) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010545)

""Ah - there we go.""
"Ah, you're a loon."

Actually, he has a point.

Aerial spraying, while better targeted today than ever before does have a high rate of collateral damage and the pesticide being used now includes chemicals which are designed to cause "benign excitation" to ensure "wider delivery".

Reps for the company did not state what that compound was, nor how it would affect species outside the target scope.

All of this for 7 confirmed deaths and 200+ suspected cases in the affected area. Malaria affects many more in the underdeveloped world in a month, but you don't hear MSM bleating "Imminent DOOM" about that.

Always drumming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011479)

Geekoid always supports the side of the authorities, even with their ongoing craptacular track record.

Makes you wonder...

Give me a break! (2)

patchouly (1755506) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010141)

I live in an area that has had West Nile since 2002. We are constantly finding dead crows. Even though we have been severely inflicted and were one of the first in Canada to have it, we still only have a handful of cases and only two of those were fatal. There was one old man that died in 2002 and then a second, old lady that died in 2011. That's it for the whole region. About 20% of the people exposed to West Nile virus develop "West Nile fever". West Nile fever's symptoms include headache, body aches and a fever. Not enough to send you to the doctor though, as it only lasts a few days. Also, the end result is you wind up producing antibodies that keep you from getting it again, for the rest of your life. The majority of people exposed to the virus, show no symptoms whatsoever. Of the folks who are exposed, less than 1% suffer from any sort of problems, beyond flu symptoms. West Nile can be fatal in very rare cases but then so can driving a car. It's not the monster killer the press is making it out to be. Don't be fooled.

Re:Give me a break! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41011359)

Thanks for the news.

I love this site for the speed at which networking takes place.

Knowledge is power.

How about acting in your own self interest (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010315)

Get out of the air conditioned cave, during the day, and emptying any standing water of more than 1/4 depth *anywhere* you find it.

Re:How about acting in your own self interest (1)

oDDmON oUT (231200) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010365)

Mod parent up. This is common sense.

Speaking of mosquitoes (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010379)

Dengay is coming to the US as well. But ignorant dipshit want to stop an effective way of limiting.

http://www.pusware.com/quackcast/quackcast97.mp3 [pusware.com]

Re:Speaking of mosquitoes (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011415)

Don't you mean Dengue? Don't make fun of ignorance if you're going to get the name wrong.

Living in the area (2)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010435)

It's not that bad. the disease is mostly affecting people with weakened immune systems, the really young and the really old. This is not too different than the flu in that regard, except it's much more difficult to control the spread of it and it has some really nasty side effects if it goes untreated.

That said, I think treating it like a dire emergency is not the right way to go. I really don't want me or my children breathing in any chemicals unnecessarily. If any of us get sick from the virus, we'll go to our doctors that we trust or a emergency room. With all the pollution we already have on top of allergens, I really don't want to know what adding those chemicals to the mix will do, but there's a chance that it may be even less treatable than the disease.

Re:Living in the area (1)

omnichad (1198475) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011429)

"State of Emergency" is poorly named, but that's what it's called. It's not an emergency, it's a state of readiness.

Re:Living in the area (1)

bws111 (1216812) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011539)

"State of emergency" mostly means that un-budgeted funds are available to help with the problem. It doesn't have anything to do with "direness" or drastic actions.

I live in Dallas (1)

DontLickJesus (1141027) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010501)

It's no state of emergency here, but the city is set to start aerial spraying.

Cowboys Upcoming Season... (1)

Thundaaa Struk (1375331) | more than 2 years ago | (#41010795)

I don't want to hear from the Dallas Cowboys that this years season was a wash due to the West Nile Virus......Everyone knows Romo isn't a true quarterback. Anyone who parties with Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell is not a top notch QB.

Pandemic anyone...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41010977)

The only safe place is Madagascar. Trust me, I've tried [kongregate.com] ...

I live in Dallas (0)

SLot (82781) | more than 2 years ago | (#41011007)

There is an interesting conclusion that can be drawn from this actually. Most of the deaths have occurred near the Park Cities - extremely wealthy parts of town.

They also are known to use more water than else where in the city: 254 gallons per person per day. This leads to lots of runoff and standing water.

Not surprising at all that they have a West Nile problem.

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