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Use Google's Nexus 7 Tablet As a VoIP Phone, For Free

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the talk-to-me-baby dept.

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Lauren Weinstein writes with a link to this short-and-sweet explanation: "I don't usually do 'how-to' postings, and I'll have much more comprehensive discussions of Android 'Jelly Bean' and the Google Nexus 7 tablet later — there are some really fascinating implications to how that ecosystem is developing. But since quite a few people have been asking me if it's possible to use the Wi-Fi-based Nexus 7 as a phone, I thought I'd scribble out this quickie guide. In short, yes, even though the N7 doesn't obviously have phone-related user interfaces, you can use the N7 as a phone for both outgoing and incoming calls via VoIP, and this can be accomplished completely for free via Google Voice accounts."

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Really?!! Shocking!! (5, Funny)

HycoWhit (833923) | about 2 years ago | (#41011443)

So you meant to tell me a device with a microphone, speaker, and wi-fi connection can be used to make VOIP calls!! Wow--what will folks figure out next? When you guys get around to discovering stuff like Skype, Google Voice, etc--let me keep sleeping...

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (2)

SQLGuru (980662) | about 2 years ago | (#41011587)

Yeah.....this post seemed like a lot of "duh" to anyone who's heard of any of these products.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (2)

Shompol (1690084) | about 2 years ago | (#41011893)

"hearing of products" and finding a practical solution that works is not one and the same. For example, I would love to use Nexus 7 as a phone, but it is probably not practical at this point because I frequently have voice-only connection where I travel. Let me demonstrate why your argument does not work:

A man landed on moon today. He got there by strapping a rocket booster engine to his lawn chair.

Yeah.....this post seemed like a lot of "duh" to anyone who's heard of any of these products.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

tonejava (772709) | about 2 years ago | (#41012769)

I'd still feel stupid holding the thing up to my ear...

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#41012911)

> I'd still feel stupid holding the thing up to my ear...

Then don't. Either use it as a speakerphone, attach a wired headset or use it's bluetooth capabilities. It isn't a Kindle Fire ya know. The Nexus has both a microphone and bluetooth.

I have always thought it was stupid to have a product with a cell data only link when adding the ability to place and receive calls is just a software limitation imposed by the carriers.

The problem with VoIP is battery life. My phone can idle for days on the cell towers but launching a VoIP app forces the WiFi to stay up constantly to be able to receive a call and it will only last a day it I don't actually do anything with it. The Nexus has a much larger battery but I'd be interested in some real world info on what impact leaving the wireless hot all day has. Of course if you only need it for the occasional outbound call this would be a winner, doubly so because grabbing an earpiece when you are getting ready to make a call isn't a real problem.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

tonejava (772709) | about 2 years ago | (#41012973)

Hmmm.. maybe my sarcasm wasn't as apparent as I expected...

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41016387)

So long as the device supports the appropriate power saving modes, merely being connected to wifi doesn't drain much power. I have a spare N900 which I'm not using, and it lasts 4-5 days idling (not doing anything other than checking my email every 15 minutes) connected to wifi. However maintaining a connection to a VOIP server would drain the battery much quicker, I expect it might last a day in that situation, but I haven't bothered to test this and it could be less.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41016555)

Your phone is defective or poorly designed. WiFi uses a negligible amount of battery power, way less than cell.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

Sark666 (756464) | about 2 years ago | (#41017971)

You mention bluetooth. I have tried several voip apps (sip applications) even voice note takers to see if bluetooth recording works. You know how many worked so far? None. Others told me bluetooth recording works with grooveip but I haven't been able to test that as I'm in Canada. I wanted to try android's built in sip dialer but that's disabled in Nexus 7. So if you can name any app besides grooveip that works with bluetooth recording, I'd certainly like to hear it. And I tried my own and borrowed 3 other bluetooth headsets from friend's and the same with all of them.

On a side note, another really disappointing thing about bluetooth with android is audio sync. It's fine with movie's that play back via hardware acceleration but any other movie or games and it's way out of sync. This is supposedly true of most/all android devices and not just the nexus 7. I can re-encode movies(which is a pain) but if I want to play a game I need to swtich to my wired headset. I initially read that this is an issue with bluetooth itself, but my friend's playbook and ipad have perfect sync with bluetooth in games.

So I would deal with the battery issues you mention if I could just find one single app that actually works with bluetooth recording.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

Shompol (1690084) | about 2 years ago | (#41013653)

You mean, like this? [androidpit.com]

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41013413)

"hearing of products" and finding a practical solution that works is not one and the same

In this particular case in a given context it is. It's not like you need to "hack" the device in any way, it's all stock functionality. Google Voice is available in the app store, and advertised as a VoIP app.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41011765)

So you meant to tell me a device with a microphone, speaker, and wi-fi connection can be used to make VOIP calls!! Wow--what will folks figure out next? When you guys get around to discovering stuff like Skype, Google Voice, etc--let me keep sleeping...

Unfortunately, the 'news' in this story is more along the lines of "Wow, consumer electronics device with microphne, speaker, and wi-fi connection not cryptographically crippled so hard that you can't do obviously useful things with it!"...

In our delightsome world of carrier locked handsets, mandatory app stores, and rampant consoleitis, the fact that a device shows signs of matching its technical capabilities, not its profit maximizing capabilities, is beginning to count as news...

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41011901)

You can use an iPad to make VOIP calls without jailbreaking, cock hockey. This story is just Captain Obvious stating the obvious.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41012383)

How quickly we forget... [iphonehacks.com] ...

Yes, that policy was eventually changed, at least for now; but the history of carrier veto over the sole authorized source of applications purely according to their profitability is.. Not Exactly... a good counter-argument.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012737)

How quickly we forget what? iCall has allowed free VOIP over WiFi since the original iPad.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (4, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | about 2 years ago | (#41011785)

You must have missed the "for free" part. Skype charges for calls to POTS lines, and Google Voice doesn't allow you to make outgoing calls directly from the tablet, though it will allow you to call a phone where you are and then dial from that phone out to your contacts.

You can argue that this might not be earth-shattering news, but it's not like what the article is about is something that is as intuitively obvious as you're trying to make it out to be.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41011943)

What was unintuitive about searching for a VOIP app in the Google Play store then installing it on your Nexus 7? This is a how to that seems to be written for the retards of digg or reddit not on a site filled with supposed techies.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (2)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | about 2 years ago | (#41012047)

There are many apps that do exactly what the article says. I used one on my iPod touch years ago. I also have a device attached to my home phone line that also uses Google voice for calls.

This may be news for some, but not news for the vast majority of readers of this site.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | about 2 years ago | (#41012539)

Using GrooveIP to make free GV phone calls over wifi has been well-known among nerds for a while now. In fact, the best way to do it would be to buy a Bluetooth headset so you don't have to hold the stupid thing against your face.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

lexman098 (1983842) | about 2 years ago | (#41012627)

I recently tried that and apparently the bluetooth interferes with the wifi and call quality becomes terrible (not that it was that great to begin with). Bluetooth is barely supported in GrooveIP to begin with. You get what you pay for.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

fnj (64210) | about 2 years ago | (#41014205)

Google Voice doesn't allow you to make outgoing calls directly from the tablet

Can you elaborate on that? I don't understand the mechanism. I can certainly make outgoing calls directly from my PC and my laptop. How is the tablet any different?

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

Disfnord (1077111) | about 2 years ago | (#41022071)

When google voice first came out, you couldn't make outgoing calls. GP probably still thinks that's the case (which everyone else knows is not).

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41020621)

well, get yourself Vonage application from Google play and enjoy free calling in US and Canada (at least)

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

camperslo (704715) | about 2 years ago | (#41011889)

If they really want to make waves with free, the devices should include a free low-bandwidth net access package. Google owns or has contracted for enough fiber that they could probably do that in many places. With income from a store function, Amazon probably could too.

Really free VoIP seems no more far fetched than the free (ad supported) PCs or net access of 20 years ago. Wasn't NetZero one of those?

Some of that television spectrum taken from us should have been made available to support free or nearly free services.

(reminder to self: look up subsidies AT&T and others are getting for rural broadband)

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 2 years ago | (#41013141)

> reminder to self: look up subsidies AT&T and others are getting for rural broadband

Because much of the US isn't profitable to wire at any price customers would likely pay. When AT&T was offered the absolute monopoly on phone service in the US back in the day they said no until the government agreed to exclude certain areas they simply would not accept. That is why those areas had a different phone company even back in the days of "Ma Bell." And it isn't any better now. Even being free to charge much higher prices and offer fewer services doesn't make those rural telephone companies profitable, it was the government largesse that did the trick. These days the government is throwing so much money at it that even AT&T has decided to compete for some of it.

The proper solution of course is to stop subsidising rural connectivity. There are many advantages to living outside the cities, but there are also disadvantages. So let those people who aren't paying much in property taxes and putting with the other expenses of city life spend the actual market rates for connectivity. These days it would mean most would be on a cell phone at probably double normal rates for having a home zip code in such an area and their data options would basically suck. Oh well.

In case anyone hasn't noticed yet, pretending reality doesn't exist is the root cause of our trillion dollar plus overspending every year for as far as OMB can produce estimates. The solution to insanity is to stop doing insane things. Ask yourself what would a sane person do? Do that. Spending money you don't have to give people something that isn't practical to own doesn't lead to good things. It didn't work for the housing market, it is destroying the telecom market by distorting the market. It certain't isn't doing good things for the economy in general, if for no other reason than the debt is depressing market.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | about 2 years ago | (#41011999)

This is third party software. This is just like Talktatone (and others) on iOS, a third party app to map to Google voice. An iPod touch is a better device for this, because of the form factor. I refuse to call a 7" tablet a phone, maybe a telephony device.

If this was native Android software, it may be news. A cell manufacturer releasing software that reduces the stranglehold on minutes and all that and pushes the carriers to be dumb data pipes would stir up a lot of noise in AT&T and Verizon board rooms. Google's motto is "don't be evil" - but until they push back on the carriers, the motto may as well be "don't be evil, but working with certain levels of evil is ok"

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | about 2 years ago | (#41012117)

Err, "native Android software" was meant to be "built into Android OS"

Obviously this is Android, my point is this isn't released by Google. If Google released this, then it's news.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41013247)

My galaxy nexus supports SIP out of the box, so it should not be too hard to get that phone software onto the nexus 7.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

rjr162 (69736) | about 2 years ago | (#41013733)

My Samsung galaxy s gt-i9000T had built in sip support right out of the box... so did my old nokia

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | about 2 years ago | (#41012255)

I did this on day one. I don't think it's newsworthy.

suddenly discovering that a wifi device with a mic and speaker is usable with grooveIP just isn't exciting.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (1)

WaywardGeek (1480513) | about 2 years ago | (#41014587)

I just followed the blog's steps, and I got it working in 5 minutes! I've built several Asterisk boxes, and in general done a lot of playing around with VoIP. Usually, it takes me a couple hours to set up a new VoIP connection. I've often had to run WireShark to debug problems. The news here is with this blog and a Nexus 7 tablet, it's only 5 minutes. Thanks for writing that blog! Who would have guessed that the tablet would show up as a Google Chat device? That would have had me pulling my hair out.

So, sure, all the serious slashdot VoIP geeks may roll their eyes and wonder why this made it on slashdot, but for most of us who are slashdotters, but not up to speed on Android and VoIP, this was an excellent post, one that will be easy to google for probably a couple of years. I'd guess that thousands of people will benefit just like me.

Re:Really?!! Shocking!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41017115)

Reddit/Digg fag spotted.

I'm choking (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41011451)

on Google spam

didnt even do it right (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41011623)

install grooveip? no give us the free way, go through sipdroid...

Re:didnt even do it right (1)

denvergeek (1184943) | about 2 years ago | (#41013511)

Csip is pretty decent as well.

Mr. Obvious says obvious things. (3, Funny)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#41011627)

On one hand Slashdot runs stories where they throw out obscure acronyms I need to google, and then the flip side of the coin are stories that MIGHT surprise your grandmother. Well done, editors!

 

Re:Mr. Obvious says obvious things. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41013605)

I had to google "VoIP" too.

Re:Mr. Obvious says obvious things. (1)

thexile (1058552) | about 2 years ago | (#41020751)

turn in your geek hate mate.

Re:Mr. Obvious says obvious things. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41014089)

Obscure? Do you live in a box?! Ok, silliness aside.

VOIP is used by a LOT of phone providers now, they even call it VOIP in the advertisements, in the brochures, and on your bill. It's also used by many hotels and businesses for their internal phone systems.

It's everywhere these days, if you can't be troubled to learn what VOIP is when it's rapidly replacing the old switch based phone system, then go back to your box!

Google voice? (1)

raluxs (961449) | about 2 years ago | (#41011699)

Only if you are U.S. Based

Re:Google voice? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41011899)

Works for me in Canada.

Re:Google voice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012173)

Didn't the U.S. buy Canada to silence Jon Stewart?

Re:Google voice? (1)

Zemran (3101) | about 2 years ago | (#41012319)

Canada is the 51st state.

Re:Google voice? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41013353)

Canada is the 51st state.

I'd much rather USA be the 11th province or maybe even the 4th territory!

We'd get better health care that way & going north to watch northern lights wouldn't require a passport!

Re:Google voice? (1)

denvergeek (1184943) | about 2 years ago | (#41013535)

I didn't know it was a state. I've always heard it simply referred to as "America's Hat"

Re:Google voice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41017255)

Canadians are gringos bitches.

Re:Google voice? (1)

aristotle-dude (626586) | about 2 years ago | (#41013567)

Didn't the U.S. buy Canada to silence Jon Stewart?

No, but we are in the process of buying up the US.
See:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/got-milk-canadian-shoppers-get-it-at-us-costco-2012-08-16?link=home_carousel [marketwatch.com]
and if you google "Canadians buy real estate in US" you will find a bunch of stories.

Nothing new... (4, Interesting)

mackil (668039) | about 2 years ago | (#41011733)

This is hardly earth shattering news. A friend of mine uses his iPod Touch as a phone and has for over a year. Wi-fi when it's available, and a 4G hot spot when it's not. Works great and is a great deal cheaper for those who aren't heavy users.

Re:Nothing new... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41011835)

Huh? Do telcos charge fat people more or something?

Re:Nothing new... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41011927)

Yes indeed. The war on fat people continues....

Re:Nothing new... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012115)

They should. Their fat bodies absorb more signal, so more power must be used to maintain signal quality, thus increasing the cost of running the network. Plus they are more likely to croak early, so their lifetime spend is reduced, so they should be charged more to compensate.

Re:Nothing new... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012075)

I use an iPod Touch and Dell Voice while traveling. Works great.

The idea is to provide specific instructions (4, Informative)

Lauren Weinstein (828974) | about 2 years ago | (#41011909)

No representation was made that this was earth-shattering news. Rather, a *lot* of people had been asking specifically how to make this work (not everyone is as knowledgeable about this area as some folks seem to think!) and the goal was to provide an approach with specific instructions that would function for people already using Google Voice, or who can obtain Google Voice accounts. This approach also has the advantage of going direct to Google Voice servers, rather than via third parties, which is also a plus (as far as I'm concerned, anyway).

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (2)

Zemran (3101) | about 2 years ago | (#41012315)

No one is criticizing the writing of the article but we question what it is doing here on /. The article belongs in the blogoshere with all the howto use Google Voice or Skype or whatever.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

godrik (1287354) | about 2 years ago | (#41012425)

I am not saysing it is not a useful information. It is just ridiculous to have it on slashdot front page. What will be the next article: "Hammer reported to be useful with nails"?

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (2)

Lauren Weinstein (828974) | about 2 years ago | (#41012573)

I think you may be somewhat overestimating the ability of many users to set up these environments in various cases without specific instructions. I know that when I mentioned that I was happy with this solution (in another venue) I got flooded with people asking for step-by-step instructions. In any case, all I did was note the posting, and I assume that the Slashdot editors have a pretty good sense of what will be useful/interesting to their readership overall, which seems to include a significant number of non-techies these days.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41013431)

I assume that the Slashdot editors have a pretty good sense of what will be useful/interesting to their readership overall

You must be new here.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

Lauren Weinstein (828974) | about 2 years ago | (#41013553)

Actually I've been here since the dawn of time. Maybe earlier. But the point is, the Slashdot audience does include a lot of people who are not technical wizards. I'll leave it at that.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41014753)

Actually I've been here since the dawn of time. Maybe earlier.

In this case you should recognize the meme.

But the point is, the Slashdot audience does include a lot of people who are not technical wizards. I'll leave it at that.

It doesn't take a "technical wizard" to install and configure Google Voice on Android, given that it's an explicitly supported scenario. It's really very basic skills.

The site, by the way, is titled "news for nerds". I don't know if readership does indeed include a significant proportion of non-techies, as you claim; but even if so, that's not the declared target audience of the site.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (2)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41017165)

and I assume that the Slashdot editors have a pretty good sense of what will be useful/interesting to their readership overall

You're joking, right? These are the same idiots who came up with turds such as Idle, Slash BI and Slashdot TV that have been almost universally hated. They haven't had a good idea in ages. Let alone the fact that they are too stupid to even properly spell check and fact check the submissions. You give them far too much credit.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

Lauren Weinstein (828974) | about 2 years ago | (#41017259)

Just out of curiosity, if you're that disdainful of Slashdot's editorial prowess, why do you visit here at all? I mean that as a serious question!

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

cusco (717999) | about 2 years ago | (#41017909)

I at least thank you for the article, and will be forwarding your instructions to a couple of co-irkers and probably a nephew.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41014295)

This just in:
How to jailbreak iphone 5.1.1 easily using absinthe! Video included!

Lots of people are asking, so I thought it should be posted to slashdot to share with everyone because....... the average slashdot reader belongs on AOL.

Re:The idea is to provide specific instructions (1)

strikethree (811449) | about 2 years ago | (#41017863)

Thank you. I especially appreciate the warning concerning privacy. While this was not news for many, I am sure it was useful to some people who read Slashdot. Not everyone has an iron hot lock on all aspects of technology even if they do understand how it all works.

As a phone? Really? (1)

danhuby (759002) | about 2 years ago | (#41012099)

> quite a few people have been asking me if it's possible to use the Wi-Fi-based Nexus 7 as a phone

Do these people own a Nexus 7 or have they even seen one? It wouldn't make a great phone.

It's too big to hold up to your ear and besides there isn't a speaker near the top. So that means you'd have to use it as a speaker phone. And as it only has wi-fi it's not as if you can use it on the go, unless you happen to be near a wi-fi hotspot or similar that you have access to - but using it handsfree in public isn't going to work well.

Re:As a phone? Really? (1)

queazocotal (915608) | about 2 years ago | (#41012605)

Addressing simply the practicalities.
With the tablets speaker centred over my ear (yes, with the screen out), the mic is about 5cm from my mouth.
It is not significantly harder to hold in this position than my phone.
Sure, you may look a bit silly, and the point about wifi only is of course valid.

Re:As a phone? Really? (1)

danhuby (759002) | about 2 years ago | (#41012901)

Just tried it. Very silly and not sure I would want to endure a long phone call in that position. The Nexus 7 weighs quite a bit more than a mobile phone.

Re:As a phone? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41014997)

I've used my Nexus 7 for Google Video chat several times and it works fine for that. Also, it has BT so you can pair a headset with it and then it works as a phone fine (using the technique outlined in the article). No need to hold it up to your head - although that would look damn funny.

Re:As a phone? Really? (1)

daboochmeister (914039) | about 2 years ago | (#41015727)

that would look damn funny.

All of us with monstrously huge heads resent such statements. Finally, a "phone" for us!!

N95 (0)

Zemran (3101) | about 2 years ago | (#41012101)

I was doing this with a Nokia N95 before the phrase smart phone had been thought of. This is not news.

Re:N95 (1)

stiggle (649614) | about 2 years ago | (#41012261)

Except the Nokia N95 was about 7 years after the 'smartphones' started appearing - and were being called smartphones.
Like the Nokia 9210 Communicator and the Sony Ericsson p800.

Smartphone was actually used in the 1990's.

Re:N95 (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41012789)

Except the phrase "smartphone" was orignally used in 2000 in marketing material by Ericcson to describe the R380. N95 was from 2007 which was long after smartphone became common vernacular.

hundreds of VOIP apps in the apple app store (0)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41012359)

i have an employer coded app on my iphone and ipad that links into our corporate VOIP system and turns my devices into my office phone. logs me out of the office phone too.

no big deal. hundreds of similar apps with services in the app store for iphone and ipad

Re:hundreds of VOIP apps in the apple app store (1)

cusco (717999) | about 2 years ago | (#41017945)

Yeah, but then you'd have to own an iThing. Thanks, but no thanks.

So another tablet that can use VoIP to make calls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012641)

Wake me up when a company gets off their butt and makes a ~7" tablet w/ some type of international-capable cellular service + WiFi that can make a phone call over the cellular network using a bluetooth headset, no Google Voice, no Skype, just an ACTUAL phone call. Not even asking for it to let me splat the thing on my face, require me to use a headset, that makes sense! But damnitall stop blocking cellular phone calls on these devices. >_

Samsung Galaxy Note? (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41014399)

Okay, it's 5.3" instead of 7", but other than that it seems to be what you're looking for.

Re:So another tablet that can use VoIP to make cal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41016929)

What about a 7" Galaxy Tab? I met someone who used it as their phone, this is in the UK, not sure how well it works internationally.

No TRRS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41012929)

"The earpiece jack on the Nexus 7 apparently does not accept microphones (e.g., via TRRS plugs)"

That's disappointing.

Same with an iPod Touch 4 (1)

fak3r (917687) | about 2 years ago | (#41013169)

My son did this same thing last week on his iPod Touch 4 - sure it requires Wifi, but otherwise it 'just works' fine via Google Voice, so I don't know how this post is garnering this much attention, save for the Nexus 7 is the new/latest hotness.

We've come full circle... (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about 2 years ago | (#41014417)

Holding a 7 inch tablet up to my ear would look just about as silly as those original "brick" cellphones. No thanks, I'll stick to the regular form factor.

negativity (2)

lytles (24756) | about 2 years ago | (#41014577)

wow - lots of negativity in the comments so far. yes, on one level this is obvious, but in reality i've found this difficult

i use google voice as my primary number and most days i don't buy prepaid service (i'm spending $100 per year for the last 2 years) - so i'm wifi only. when i'm on a linux box (with a hardwired ethernet) i use the gmail to make calls. but i haven't found a great solution for my phone - google nexus s. what i'm doing is have google voice forward the call to ipkall (free pots to sip gateway) and then answer the call on my phone with csipsimple (seemed better than builtin, though i haven't tried the builtin sip since i upgraded to ICS). for testing, i do the same thing on my linux box using sflphone. the quality using gmail is much better than what i've gotten from either csipsimple or sflphone (i'm on a 1Mbit dsl connection)

so an android app that talks directly to GV seems incredibly useful to me. anyone know how this works - eg, are they just running a pots-to-sip gateway or have they actually implemented the GV protocol (i think it's jingle with some extensions). any other apps that are doing something similar, especially one that's Free ? or linux programs (on my laptop, leaving gmail open eats my battery) ? anybody else using GV + wifi as their primary means of communication ? how does the voice quality compare with gmail ?

yes, the article isn't great. but the idea is 100% geek - embrace it. in the meantime i'm going to go investigate GIPL and see if anyone else is implementing the GV protocol

Re:negativity (0)

El Rey (61125) | about 2 years ago | (#41017401)

Try GrooveIP. Works for me on my tablet using it as a speaker phone. I haven't tried it on an Android phone because I don't have one. Comes in Lite (free) [google.com] and $5 versions [google.com] ...

I haven't tried Google's version [google.com] but that is another option.

Re:negativity (1)

Boycott BMG (1147385) | about 2 years ago | (#41019815)

Since I have been looking into these types of programs for a while, I'll give you what I have learned so far.

Groove IP only works if you have set your google voice account to forward calls to Google Talk. Groove IP then talks to Google Talk through jingle like you guessed. One caveat is that in order for it to work, you cannot be logged in to Google Talk from any other computer, otherwise the call will get sent to your computer's GTalk session. Most other VOIP apps use a third party pbx to achieve this which means if the third party decides to pull the service then you are SOL.

There are a couple of other programs that use the communication with GTalk, one is called Spare Phone. The Spare Phone app is cheaper than Groove IP, but it doesn't integrate with the native dialer like Groove does. Talkatone is another app that uses GTalk, but for all your calls go through their servers for some reason, so it is no better than the third party pbxes.

Security concerns? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015855)

Am I the only one or do others look at this technology and think it's really neat and something I'd like to have, but as soon as I have to type in my google email address and password, I get leery that this 3rd party, closed source "lite" application is secretly doing an HTTP POST to a remote web server in some scary dude's basement and he's then using my google mail account for his own personal interests???

Re:Security concerns? (0)

El Rey (61125) | about 2 years ago | (#41017489)

Then use Google's version [google.com] .

That way you're just giving your Google password to Google.

Can GV ring your carrier and VOIP #s at same time? (1)

daboochmeister (914039) | about 2 years ago | (#41015891)

I've wondered this - can you tell Google Voice to ring both your carrier cell# and the VOIP # configged in grooveip/sipdroid/whatever, and then you can answer on whichever you prefer? That way, you can set your voip app to run when wifi is available (or script it to start when wifi turns on, if it doesn't have that feature), and conveniently receive calls on VOIP when possible.

Re:Can GV ring your carrier and VOIP #s at same ti (1)

El Rey (61125) | about 2 years ago | (#41017337)

Yes. My landline, cell, and tablet all ring at the same time.

Getting one! (1)

SealBeater (143912) | about 2 years ago | (#41016807)

I might get two...

a brief review (1)

Eil (82413) | about 2 years ago | (#41019331)

I tried Groove IP, and it looks like most of the time, all you have to do is install the app and sign in.

However, when testing it out with another phone, I found that the delay in the audio was too high to carry on a normal conversaion. On the order of 1 - 1.5 seconds. I couldn't find any settings in Groove IP that would lower it. Doesn't seem to be a problem with Google Voice because I carried out the same test on my computer (over the same wifi) and the latency was well within tolerable.

I might use Groove IP in a pinch, but not for normal chatting.

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