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First Pictures of Apple's New Mini Connector

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the ok-now-complain-about-it dept.

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tad001 writes "The Daily Mail has pictures of Apple's new mini connector. The photograph, shared by French tech website nowhereelse.fr, shows two components, one of which is said to be similar to another apparently leaked picture of a part of the new iPhone. As well as the new dock connector, the part also seems to take in the headphone jack and the home button connector for the hotly awaited devices."

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303 comments

Say "NO!" to the Daily Mail (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41014967)

Nasty, racist tabloid. Has no place on this site.

Re:Say "NO!" to the Daily Mail (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41015095)

Nasty, racist tabloid. Has no place on this site.

How can you be so mean to the Daily Heil?

Re:Say "NO!" to the Daily Mail (1)

rexkbh2100 (2709583) | about 2 years ago | (#41015469)

Yeah because it's such a reputable source of tech info Periodic proprietary connector design changes are like death and taxes...well more like taxes actually as they are done to generated cash.

Re:Say "NO!" to the Daily Mail (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015201)

So what's wrong with racists? These days they're the only honest people left.

Let the lawsuits begin.. (2)

Krojack (575051) | about 2 years ago | (#41014971)

for any look-a-like dock connectors!

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015149)

Please! Please! If Apple sued other manufacturers over violating their "Milk the customer by using a proprietary dock incompatible with everything else" patent, then the handful that don't would be forced to include proper working charging/HDMI/USB input/output using the standard connector used with microUSB and MHD.

Also Apple, if you could sue over "Locking devices down to only run approved apps", "Mechanisms to prevent modders from replacing your firmware with their own on their own devices" and similar actions, hey, I might even start to like you again!

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015167)

Also Apple, if you could sue over "Locking devices down to only run approved apps", "Mechanisms to prevent modders from replacing your firmware with their own on their own devices" and similar actions, hey, I might even start to like you again!

Yeah they can sue Nintendo, Sony and MS for copying them over this and I won't bat an eye.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (0)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41015323)

So please tell me what non proprietary connector allows any old dumb device to control functionality like line in, line out, volume, power, video out, and controlling playback? This can all be done by sending analog signals over certain pins. For very cheap devices a USB controller and the supporting chipset and software is not an option.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (4, Insightful)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015503)

I completely disagree that a USB controller and supporting chipset isn't an option, a quick pop into Wal-Mart will show you any number of ridiculously cheap USB devices. Hey, forget Wal-mart, here's an $8 USB keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/107-Key-Windows-Keyboard-Black-USB/dp/B0038M3YM8 [amazon.com] (do you think the most expensive part of the $8 cost is the USB chipset?)

So, ruling USB back in, the obvious solution is the micro-USB connector.

* Line in is a standard USB protocol, likewise line out (hence those USB headsets you can get.)
* Volume likewise can be implemented by supporting HID - Volume up and down have been standard keystrokes for a while on virtually every multimedia keyboard.
* Power is a standard part of the micro-USB connector, we can charge using it.
* Video out is supported by MHL [wikipedia.org] , which is fast becoming a standard in the Android world.
* And finally, controlling playback is also supported by HID, again Play/Pause/Rewind/Fastforward are part of every modern keyboard, using standardized keystrokes.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about 2 years ago | (#41015887)

I completely disagree that a USB controller and supporting chipset isn't an option, a quick pop into Wal-Mart will show you any number of ridiculously cheap USB devices. Hey, forget Wal-mart, here's an $8 USB keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/107-Key-Windows-Keyboard-Black-USB/dp/B0038M3YM8 [amazon.com] (do you think the most expensive part of the $8 cost is the USB chipset?)

So, ruling USB back in, the obvious solution is the micro-USB connector.

* Line in is a standard USB protocol, likewise line out (hence those USB headsets you can get.)

* Volume likewise can be implemented by supporting HID - Volume up and down have been standard keystrokes for a while on virtually every multimedia keyboard.

* Power is a standard part of the micro-USB connector, we can charge using it.

* Video out is supported by MHL [wikipedia.org] , which is fast becoming a standard in the Android world.

* And finally, controlling playback is also supported by HID, again Play/Pause/Rewind/Fastforward are part of every modern keyboard, using standardized keystrokes.

FWIIW micro-USB connectors also have an annoying tendency to break the little plastic tab inside the socket which effectively bricks your device.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (4, Interesting)

kidgenius (704962) | about 2 years ago | (#41016017)

I've been using tons of micro-usb connections for years. I've been plugging and unplugging every day, multiple times, across multiple devices. I'd wager I have something on the order of 10000 unplug/plugs across my devices. I have never broken or bent a single micro-usb connector. I know my anecdote is not very good, but if there really was an "annoying tendency to break", I'm sure I would've had it happen and/or heard about it previously. Besides, the inside piece is metal....not plastic as i'm looking at my devices.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41016047)

You not only need the USB chipset, you also need hardware to decode video and audio.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (2)

bjwest (14070) | about 2 years ago | (#41016031)

Dude, WTF? It's crap like this that require more and more control over the internet. The free and/or easy dissemination of information is going to end up ruining the profit margins of our OverLoard Coporations.

This shit has to stop NOW! We can't have the masses know just how much they're getting taken for.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (5, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | about 2 years ago | (#41015571)

So please tell me what non proprietary connector allows any old dumb device to control functionality like line in, line out, volume, power, video out, and controlling playback? This can all be done by sending analog signals over certain pins. For very cheap devices a USB controller and the supporting chipset and software is not an option.

Haven't seen any android devices lately have you....
I suggest you broaden your horizons.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41015981)

So they send analog signals over USB?

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (4, Interesting)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41015539)

If they offered a Mag Lock type of technology, I think I would be a bit more interested. If they are just getting a smaller connector you might as well use what everyone else has.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

DJRumpy (1345787) | about 2 years ago | (#41015731)

These are idiot proof, but not maglock. They can connect with either side 'up'. Maglock is not really required for a device this small though since the connectors can actually hold the weight of the phone (at least on the old connector).

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (2)

cpu6502 (1960974) | about 2 years ago | (#41015163)

Quoting in your sig the worst Star Trek show ever made? Wow. And yes Apple will get sued: By the European Union which mandated a standard connector (mini USB).

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (5, Informative)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015209)

No they won't. They provide an adapter which complies with the rules.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (3, Informative)

msauve (701917) | about 2 years ago | (#41015309)

There is no such "mandate." The EU encouraged, and some set of cell phone manufacturers voluntarily agreed to, the adoption of the micro USB connector for charging. I don't know if Apple was part of that group, I suspect not. It's not required by law, although Apple does provide an adapter which allows using micro USB chargers.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015331)

Apple was part of the group.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

rwise2112 (648849) | about 2 years ago | (#41015631)

Yes, and they produce an adapter to make it work.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015665)

Yes exactly as I said 3 posts above.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (2, Interesting)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41015717)

I found that Enterprise was worse then Voyager. But it is a tossup.

Voyager stupid idea for a plot, but at least is wasn't a copy of Gilligan's Island (I was worried they will have a new fangle way to get home every episode and fail at the list minute).

Enterprise had a good idea of the plot, but they got too much time travel and alternate Universe crap in it. I would much rather see, much lower Warp factors. (Max warp of 3) No Klingon's, more with the Romulan War, and a little more about getting the federation together. I did like the Andorrans.

So we got Bad Plot, and did the best with it. Vs. Good Plot totally messed up.

Re:Let the lawsuits begin.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015177)

Unfortunately, I do not even remember that there are many more lawsuits regarding dock connectors. I say unfortunately because right now, Apple dominates the world connector dock (and gets royalties off of that). You're lucky to get a 3.5 mm plug dangling outside the wire for connecting other audio devices and just get on them, lucky if there is a microUSB cable to any load. This is partly due to the design of devices, of course - it's easy to make a dock that works with virtually all iPods and iPhones to date, which are very popular devices, and not so easy to make a station home that will work well with hundreds of devices much less popular.
The other part, however, is that Apple does not seem to license out their dock connector on the side of the unit. I say "seems" because I do not know this for a fact - but I can not imagine the manufacturers of other devices sitting there watching all these docks (speakers, receivers, media players, even cars ) and do not think it would be rather nice if their devices could be interfaced with them.

Daily mail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41014987)

Fuck linking to this tabloid trash.

More proprietary apple shit (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015027)

Use standard USB like everyone else.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (3, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015091)

Hush, don't you know that the slight functionality advantage of these stupid-ass proprietary connectors makes it totally worth it vs. having to plug in a second cable sometimes? Plus so many accessories on the market use the Apple connector that hasn't changed in yea...oh wait...

Re:More proprietary apple shit (2)

6ULDV8 (226100) | about 2 years ago | (#41015369)

Accessories like my car.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015521)

And I thought it was bad when you had obsolete tech stuck in your computer case...

Re:More proprietary apple shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015651)

Sounds like another car manufacturer that shouldn't have drank so much of the Apple Kool-Aid.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015293)

Apple's iPod/iPhone connector was one of the advantages they had over everyone else because that connector makes a reliable connection every time, unlike flimsy Micro USB connectors. The connectors on Micro USB cables were designed to be fragile to avoid damaging devices and often wear to the point of being useless in a matter of months. So much for not having to buy new cables for every phone, I have to buy new cables every 6 months. I'm all for having an industry standard, but not if the standard sucks.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015367)

You're doing something seriously wrong. The microUSB connectors for my N900 are at least 2 years old and still going strong, and it works on the first attempt to plug in pretty much every time.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015615)

You're doing something seriously wrong.

Yeah, I'm using a device with a Micro USB connector. Every Micro USB Device I have ever used has developed problems due to cable wear. It's not a large sample, but a Blackberry, two Droids, and a USB 3.0 hard drive (which was unreliable straight out of the box with the included cable, just tapping the cable would cause it to lose the connection) have all been problematic for me. In the case of the phones, a fresh cable fixes the problem (temporarily), so the cables are wearing down to being useless in about 200-300 connect-disconnect cycles. The problem is that the cables do not lock in securely, resulting in weak connections and accelerated wear.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015705)

We've never had any such problem with any of the Blackberries in my office, and I've been unplugging and plugging in my N900 about twice a day for the last 2+ years, no problems.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015633)

Apple's iPod/iPhone connector was one of the advantages they had over everyone else because that connector makes a reliable connection every time, unlike flimsy Micro USB connectors. The connectors on Micro USB cables were designed to be fragile to avoid damaging devices and often wear to the point of being useless in a matter of months. So much for not having to buy new cables for every phone, I have to buy new cables every 6 months. I'm all for having an industry standard, but not if the standard sucks.

If this really is your experience and not another mythical tale from the Apple side, you are doing something seriously wrong or buying cables the wrong place. I have had multiple micro-USB gadgets, including phones, for years without experiencing anything remotely like what you are describing. Never even heard anything like it among all co-workers and friends using micro usb. The connector makes reliable connection every time. No cable or connector has ever shown any wear to speak of, and that is measured in years of use. To get useless in months.., sounds, well, like something is very off . The only cables I've seen damaged recently is a friends iPad connector cable, which have developed damage showing the inside wires right after the plug ends.

Using the same cable and the same power adapter across multiple gadgets is so useful that I would really, really try hard to avoid bying a device with a proprietary connector.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

tgd (2822) | about 2 years ago | (#41015513)

Use standard USB like everyone else.

Everyone else doesn't use standard USB. Samsung, for example, has a dock-like connector, too. Why? For the same reason so many digital cameras have proprietary USB connectors -- you have other signals you need to provide. The dock connector has line level audio, video output, and a bunch of other things like that.

For a simple charge-and-sync application, USB is fine, but there are no standard formats that include that PLUS video, audio, serial, etc.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41016133)

For a simple charge-and-sync application, USB is fine, but there are no standard formats that include that PLUS video, audio, serial, etc.

For video & audio, there is MHL. Most high-end Android phones these days seem to support it via their micro-USB slot.

Re:More proprietary apple shit (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | about 2 years ago | (#41015815)

I agree. If you want HDMI out, use an AppleTV.

Wow (3, Insightful)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#41015033)

You know you're big when a new connector for one of your devices is front page news on every website.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015921)

> You know you're big when a new connector for one of your devices is front page news on every website.

No, you know that people have twisted fandom into religion when it's on the front page of every website.

Just use micro USB already! (5, Insightful)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | about 2 years ago | (#41015041)

Its really just bad that they insist on not moving to micro USB like basically all other phones manufacturers have. Requiring people to buy new sets of chargers, cables, accessories, docks for a new product just shouldn't be necessary with what is already available.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

Krojack (575051) | about 2 years ago | (#41015087)

I'm guessing that's the point of them redoing it on the iPhone 5. They figured it's time people go out and buy new cables and chargers and stop using the ones they got with the original iPhone.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (4, Insightful)

joelsanda (619660) | about 2 years ago | (#41015099)

Requiring people to buy new sets of chargers, cables, accessories, docks for a new product just shouldn't be necessary with what is already available.

The don't require anyone to buy anything else. The box comes with a USB charging cable and why do you need a dock? It can sync wirelessly now.It would be nice if they included the travelling charger in the box, but anyone who reads the description will know that's not included.

If people rush out and spend half again as much on accessories that's their choice. A +10 Shirt of Protection from Marketing is the only thing that will save them.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015205)

Speaking for myself, I've never wanted to carry around anything but the device itself. Being able to have a cheap, almost disposable, charger at work that works with all my devices is the way to go.

No, you don't have to be able to charge the iPhone at work - although I believe one of the major reasons they're suing Samsung is that the Galaxy Nexus violates their "Ridiculously poor battery life" patent - but I'm inclined to think most do, and most don't want to carry around their only USB cable everywhere they go to do it.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

joelsanda (619660) | about 2 years ago | (#41015315)

Well, haven't all the iOS devices had that? It's a USB cable that plugs into a USB port. The only time that nails me is when I

  1. Forget to charge overnight
  2. Travel without a PC

But I have only the iPhone, so perhaps the issue of multiple devices and cables doesn't haunt me.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015547)

No. I said I don't want to carry around my only USB cable.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (4, Insightful)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about 2 years ago | (#41015673)

I suppose if the only portable devices you have are IOS devices than that is fine, but wouldn't it be nice if I would not have to have a separate cable for all of my IOS devices and another one for everything else?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 2 years ago | (#41015771)

Well you need a charger at home and one at work. Possibly an auto charger as well if you travel a lot.

Got a micro usb last weekend, store was selling ridiculous ones for $20 and seemed to be the only one. Until I found the discount bin with $1.95 cables that did the same thing but weren't in white. Now where can you get an iphone connector for only $1.95?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015971)

Now where can you get an iphone connector for only $1.95?

eBay (shipped, US seller.)

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | about 2 years ago | (#41015129)

Its really just bad that they insist on not moving to micro USB like basically all other phones manufacturers have. Requiring people to buy new sets of chargers, cables, accessories, docks for a new product just shouldn't be necessary with what is already available.

Agreed in principle, but I'd prefer mini USB - I was visiting my extended family recently and we got to talking about broken cables and we've seen about 15 out of the 30 micro USB connectors we've collectively owned, usually supplied along with Kindles or phones, fail within the first year of normal use. None of us had ever seen a mini USB connecter fail in a larger sample size. Micro was supposedly designed for more plug/unplug cycles, but it seems like it's solidly failed to hit its goals.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015137)

Apple's dock connector supports some signals that aren't directly available on USB (like video out and audio in/out). These could possibly be handled over USB by an adapter of some sort, but the current connector allows for some cheap and easy accessories.

It is unfortunate that existing accessories don't work, but that happens some times. Apple has been using the existing design for a long time.

Supporting an additional micro USB would be OK, but they'd have to find room for it.

This should be a non-story.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

rwise2112 (648849) | about 2 years ago | (#41015239)

Apple's dock connector supports some signals that aren't directly available on USB (like video out and audio in/out)

Other manufacturers can get a micro-USB port to also double as a HDMI output.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015289)

Yes, by requiring an adapter.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015327)

No, just the right cable (unless you consider every cable an "adapter" of some sort, but I suspect not as that would make a micro-USB cable an adapter too)

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015479)

Who?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (4, Informative)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 2 years ago | (#41015281)

MHL [wikipedia.org] provides HDMI compatible output over the connector used for microUSB (and can co-exist with USB), and USB itself includes protocols for audio in/out. MHL+USB over micro-B is becoming standard in the Android world. There's no reason to eschew microUSB for these functions.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41015355)

How do you get audio line in and line out from USB? How do you get video signals?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41015489)

Yea, too bad USB can't transfer data...

Perhaps it could have a Universal Bus that can send data perhaps Serially.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015589)

USB scan carry analogue signals such as the dock connector can?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015877)

I've got a brilliant idea! Let's carry analog audio signals through 35+ gauge wire!

No, wait, that's idiotic; this is 2012 and circuitry is cheap. You want a digital signal as far as you can get it.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 2 years ago | (#41015617)

Yea, too bad USB can't transfer data...

Perhaps it could have a Universal Bus that can send data perhaps Serially.

Brilliant!

Quickly now, let's write up an RFC and patent that shit before anyone beats us to it!

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41015875)

So you want a $10 boom box from Walmart that now can connect to an analog pin to add a USB controller and the necessary software to get data and translate it?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

fa2k (881632) | about 2 years ago | (#41015687)

I have a crappy pink Alcatel that came with a headset with a mini-USB connector. It's a really simple thing, and I don't think it has a USB controller, so there is a way to send analog audio over a USB connector.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

Karlt1 (231423) | about 2 years ago | (#41015945)

You don't "send audio" over USB. You have a USB host controller and software to decode the data. But you can "send audio" over a line out pin and not require any software by the host.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015403)

Yes, just use the most flimsy and unreliable connector out there so people will only be required to buy new cables and chargers every year or so when the cables fail instead of whenever Apple comes out with a new connector. Makes sense to me. Can you imagine the outrage when people can't get their iPhones to charge because of cable failure after cable failure? Micro USB is a failed design, Apple would do well to stay away from it.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015477)

I'd need to buy new chargers, cables, and accessories if they switched to micro USB.

If the leaked parts are for real, and it's this thing: http://itsmorereal.tumblr.com/post/29480903669/the-foolproof-dock-connector

Then it will function much better than micro USB.

Aren't you buying new cables anyway when everything switches to Micro USB3?

Best case scenario (unlikely, I realize), this is a custom connector for USB3, and they'll let anyone use it. Of course, if it really is liquidmetal, then they've already got exclusive rights to the manufacturing process for consumer electronics purposes. Seems like it could be implemented 100% as effectively with stamped and cut stainless steel.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

houghi (78078) | about 2 years ago | (#41015491)

I thought there was a European law that required a standard for the charging of phones. I am sure that Apple will tell in court how their phone is something else completely and nothing like that Sony thing. They will say that it does not even look like it and the Sony is a phone and their device is as

Re:Just use micro USB already! (2)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015559)

It's a standard pushed by the EU not a law. Also, Apple sells a mini-USB adapter to comply with the standard.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

hackertourist (2202674) | about 2 years ago | (#41015505)

USB does not include analogue video and audio outputs.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (1)

idontgno (624372) | about 2 years ago | (#41015679)

I have never heard "analogue video and audio" cited as an advantage.

Out here in the 21st Century, digital A/V is preferred. And works JUST FINE over USB 2.0 and later.

No, let's all be candid and stop deluding ourselves. Apple isn't inventing whizzy new proprietary connectors because they believe micro USB doesn't support all important use cases. They're inventing whizzy new proprietary connectors because USB wasn't invented, copyrighted, and patented at One Infinite Loop.

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015599)

The current dock connector has been introduced with the 3G iPod in 2003, and Apple kept it unchanged for almost a decade - please remind me again, how many times did other manufacturers change connectors during this period?

Re:Just use micro USB already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015607)

> Requiring people to buy new sets of chargers, cables, accessories, docks

That might actually be the plan.

Chaaaange places!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015057)

Apples genius was getting the tech ignorant masses to accept the upgrade treadmill as a fact of life. $$$

Re:Chaaaange places!!!!! (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41015223)

Fact of life? They see it as a series of religious holidays to be celebrated.

Connector Change? (2)

Murdoch5 (1563847) | about 2 years ago | (#41015103)

Why do people care that the connector is changing. Personally I don't anything that doesn't use a standard good old available and open USB connector. All changing the connector does is make it harder to interface to devices and objects. Basically with Apple changing the connector they're saying "We don't want our users to be able to easily and readily use our products for interfacing, lets make them spend extra money because we need to be different", this is yet another thing Apples is doing to piss me off. Just standardize to the rest of the market Apple, you look like a fool using a proprietary connector.

Re:Connector Change? (0)

jmerlin (1010641) | about 2 years ago | (#41015613)

I care because right now, iOS does not compete at all with Jellybean. iPhone hardware competes on no level but pixel density with other devices. iTunes as an app store is horrendous by comparison to Google Play and others, and it's quickly being matched in content (I can use Spotify for Music, and various other sources for all the same video, etc). In essence, what was the great iPhone victory of smart phones is completely gone. The iPhone has nothing going for it anymore except that it's made by Apple and costs nearly twice as much as similar smart phones. That means that the connector fail here is a huge deciding factor in terms of objective feature sets. If Apple screws this up, Apple eats a massive loss on next-gen iPhone sales, and arguably might be dropped out of the smart phone industry altogether (one can hope). So I care because a small mistake here can mean the end of iPhones, and good riddance.

An example of adapter win: I just bought a Galaxy Nexus from Google. Awesome phone. My old GPS in my car used a mini-usb connector to charge. Therefore, I already have a car charger for my phone (which also happens to be my new GPS, because Google Navigation is incredibly hawt). That's the pure win of standards. After using an iPhone for almost 3 years, I was astonished at how terrible iOS is by comparison to Jellybean. My god I will never use an iPhail again.

Re:Connector Change? (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015823)

The iPhone has nothing going for it anymore except that it's made by Apple and costs nearly twice as much as similar smart phones.

No, it doesn't. New iPhone models have $199 subsidized prices which is exactly the same cost as a new Galaxy S model or any comparable high-end Android phone. Even going by unsubsidized price the difference between the Galaxy S 3 and the 4S is actually $50 dollars in the 4S's favor (16 GB 4S is $649 vs Galaxy S 3 16GB at $699). Comparing against the Galaxy S 2 the price difference is $649 to $549. Last time I checked that's not twice as much but is less than 20% difference. What 'similar smart phone' are you talking about that costs half as much as the iPhone?

Re:Connector Change? (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41016029)

And before you try to claim the Galaxy Nexus. It cost $699 unsubsidized when it was released originally.

LOL... (1)

sudden.zero (981475) | about 2 years ago | (#41015111)

Let the race for a old style to new style jack converter begin.

Re:LOL... (1)

noh8rz7 (2706405) | about 2 years ago | (#41015191)

You need a new style JERK converter!

Re:LOL... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015461)

Yeah? Well I had sex with your wife!

Re:LOL... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015531)

DORK connector is the word you were looking for.

I'll believe it when I see the actual iPhone 5. (1)

TigerPlish (174064) | about 2 years ago | (#41015157)

'till then it's just a picture of someone's parts. Could be anyone's parts. Could be intentional misinformation. Could be a rejected Apple design. Could be Samsung, even!

At least TFA got lots of clicks and eyeballs. Well done, advertisers.

Re:I'll believe it when I see the actual iPhone 5. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015913)

"it's just a picture of someone's parts. Could be anyone's parts. "

There are specialists you can talk to about your porn addiction.

O.M.G. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015313)

This [new thing] apple is doing is the coolest thing EVER!

Why is the home button below the new connector? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015377)

In my current iPad, the connector and home button are close but clearly the connector is on the edge of the case. When i look at the picture, the home button is below the new connector and headphone jack. If the connector and jack are on the edge of the case doesn't that mean that the button is outside of the case?

Re:Why is the home button below the new connector? (1)

Desler (1608317) | about 2 years ago | (#41015483)

No, it doesn't. That is a bendable cable.

Re:Why is the home button below the new connector? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41016117)

No, that is the Apple Patented iCable, bendable in very cool bends.

Everybody who tries to copy these bends will be sued.

Place your bets of the price of adapters! (4, Interesting)

bhunachchicken (834243) | about 2 years ago | (#41015529)

I'm going with the following -

1. No adapter in the box (after all, Apple didn't tell you to buy that accessory)*
2. Adapters will cost $30 each ($10 to make, plus Apple's mark-up, plus tax)**

* - after 9 months of moaning from people who say Apple have screwed them over, Apple will provide all iPhone 5 purchasers with a $5 off voucher, when ordering the adapter direct from their own website.
** - a commenter on the Daily Mail website is claiming that the adapters will only cost $5 each. No chance, sorry. How will Apple make any money off those???

Re:Place your bets of the price of adapters! (3, Informative)

PayPaI (733999) | about 2 years ago | (#41015683)

Yeah, it's not like they sell a similar adapter [amazon.com] for $9

But Read/Write Speeds are atrocious (1, Offtopic)

coldandcalculating (1311907) | about 2 years ago | (#41015567)

The fastest DNA polymerases can copy a template at around 250 bases/sec. Chemical DNA synthesis is much slower.

As for read speeds, DNA sequencing can be done serially (500-800 bases in a matter of hours - 1 cent per base) or massively parallel (100-200 bases per read; 100 million reads; overnight - $1000 per chip by year's end?)

Tools allowing for rapid synthesis (write) and sequencing (read) of DNA would enable a biotech revolution similar in scope and impact to the computing revolution of the last century. As far as I know, this technology is still incredibly far away, but definitely merits relentless R&D.

Re:But Read/Write Speeds are atrocious (1)

coldandcalculating (1311907) | about 2 years ago | (#41015635)

thread fail. my bad

Fragmentation! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015647)

One of the main selling points is that every phone connects the same place and say way all docking stations are built so that they are pieces of art with no spare room. This will be devastating!

USB host (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41015761)

What no one is talking about is whether this will have usb hosting abilities like some android devices.
Imagine hooking up a thumbdrive to your iphone (and possibly also ipad)

I don't get it (1)

bugs2squash (1132591) | about 2 years ago | (#41015911)

why does it need a dock connector at all ? I'd prefer a totally waterproof / dust-proof phone and it seems far more "Apple".

Re:I don't get it (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 2 years ago | (#41016127)

That would probably have been on the road map if the aliens hadn't killed Jobs. His perfect device would have no interface points whatsoever - just a perfectly smooth, hermetically sealed case. I'd go so far as to say that the front and back would be indistinguishable, save for a slightly luminescent Apple logo on the back. Headphones and portable chargers would be magnetically keyed. Data transfer would be entirely wireless.

It would be exactly like the gadgets advanced beings carried around (and inexplicably lost) in scifi novels we read as kids.

New category? (1)

metrometro (1092237) | about 2 years ago | (#41015925)

Does slashdot have a category for unconfirmed photos of a frakking plug? Because that would go great with the "op-eds about what I think the bezel width might be" and the "patent cases even the judge is bored with" section.

Seriously. The Daily Mail? (2, Insightful)

tgibbs (83782) | about 2 years ago | (#41015943)

You might as well read the time from a stopped clock.

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