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Booted From Airplane For Wearing Anti-TSA T-shirt

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the more-than-3-ounces-of-sarcasm dept.

Censorship 826

Cigarra writes "PhD student Arijit learned the hard way that in Brave New America you can't mock TSA's Security Theater and go on about your business. According to a recollection in RT.com: 'After being vigorously screened and questioned multiple times, Arijit says he was finally given permission, once more, to board his plane. The pilot of the aircraft, however, had had enough of the whole ordeal and asked the Delta supervisor to relay the message that, due to the discomfort the shirt had caused, neither Arijit nor his wife would be allowed to board the aircraft.' Just how much humiliation is the general American public willing to tolerate in the name of 'security'?"

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826 comments

duh - his name (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093641)

I mean come on "Arijit" clearly a terrorist threat.

KKK to TSA (5, Insightful)

Cryacin (657549) | about 2 years ago | (#41093715)

Looks like the KKK renamed their acronym to something more paletable.

Re:KKK to TSA (2)

Vicarius (1093097) | about 2 years ago | (#41094079)

In all fairness, it was Delta employees who pushed the issue overboard rather than TSA.

Re:duh - his name (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093747)

He may be an ijit, but he's Arijit!

It's even worse (5, Insightful)

jodido (1052890) | about 2 years ago | (#41093647)

Add in the racial bias in profiling and the racist prejudices of some passengers (this can get you booted too if a passenger decides s/he is "uncomfortable" on the plane with you on it) and you have quite an ugly situation.

Re:It's even worse (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093775)

What does this have to do with race? Cite? What an a$$ you are, typical slash mean idiot. This site gets more and more political and retarded.

Re:It's even worse (5, Informative)

Tridus (79566) | about 2 years ago | (#41093855)

RTFA perhaps? It's in there. I know it's easier to bitch and moan like a fucking moron then to actually RTFA, but lets give it a try:

“He gave a stupid answer,” Arijit recalls hearing the officer say to a supervisor. “And he looks foreign.”

“Certainly he wasn’t implying that dark-skinned people are not real Americans and that white people are the only true Americans,” Arijit writes in part of his snark-filled synopsis. “Fortunately, Mark’s request was denied. Apparently, someone at NFTA recognized this bigoted meathead for the bigoted meathead he was and that nationality is simply a concept that exists solely on paper and cannot be discerned from just looking at someone.”

Re:It's even worse (0)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about 2 years ago | (#41093857)

I find it hard to take anyone seriously that uses the word "retarded" as a synonym of "dumb".

Re:It's even worse (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094019)

I find it hard to take anyone seriously that uses the word "retarded" as a synonym of "dumb".

Since I doubt he meant to observe that slashdot can't speak...

I find it hard to take anyone seriously that uses the word "dumb" as a synonym of "stupid", while getting butthurt about "retarded". Clinically correct language: take it or leave it, but you can't have it both ways.

Re:It's even worse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094099)

Sure, but retarded fits better since it comes from mentally retarded. meaning behind in mental development and dumb just means unable to speak. So you may mean using it instead of stupid.

Re:It's even worse (0, Troll)

capnkr (1153623) | about 2 years ago | (#41093963)

Poke an animal or a person, with a sharp stick, and see what kind of reaction you get - it won't be a smile and a "Let me do whatever it takes to help you...". Instead it will be similar to what this guy saw, by metaphorically poking the bureaucrats that are the TSA and airline security crowd with an offensive-to-them shirt.

As a doctoral candidate, he should be intelligent enough to hypothesize this sort of reaction, yet when that is exactly what happens, he gets all huffy. No sympathy from me, for being a dumbass and now getting whiny about it. Man up, Arijit, stop being a whiny puss.

Should the TSA and airline security be what it is now? IMO, hell no, it is doing no good, it is pointless, security theater. But that doesn't change that this person got pretty much what anyone with a lick of common sense would have guessed would be the sort of reaction one could expect. Newtons Law, and all that...

Re:It's even worse (5, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41094049)

I'm sure he was aware something like this could happen, but he had the balls to risk some heat to exercise his rights and bring attention to the stupidity of the TSA. Good for him, if more people had that kind of guts then the TSA could be tamed.

Re:It's even worse (5, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 2 years ago | (#41094075)

Poke an animal or a person, with a sharp stick, and see what kind of reaction you get - it won't be a smile and a "Let me do whatever it takes to help you...". Instead it will be similar to what this guy saw, by metaphorically poking the bureaucrats that are the TSA and airline security crowd with an offensive-to-them shirt.

Unless they work for Chick-Fil-A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-jzlWcc0E [youtube.com]

As a doctoral candidate, he should be intelligent enough to hypothesize this sort of reaction, yet when that is exactly what happens, he gets all huffy. No sympathy from me, for being a dumbass and now getting whiny about it. Man up, Arijit, stop being a whiny puss. Should the TSA and airline security be what it is now? IMO, hell no, it is doing no good, it is pointless, security theater. But that doesn't change that this person got pretty much what anyone with a lick of common sense would have guessed would be the sort of reaction one could expect. Newtons Law, and all that...

He was standing up for his rights and mocking a reviled government agency. And they let him past! It was Delta that bounced him and pitched a fit. Yep, Delta screwed him over because some people were uncomfortable. Never flying Delta...

Re:It's even worse (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094113)

Thing is you're not allowed to abuse your power to get back at a provocateur if the person hasn't done anything illegal.

Which this is; a gross abuse of power: stopping somebody from traveling, potentially stealing hours if not DAYS of their time stranding them at an airport -> borderline imprisonment, simply because you "didn't like them". You can yell as much as you want about how "they started it" you were still the one that started the metaphorical punching AND you were several sizes larger than they were on the metaphorical scale.

Re:It's even worse (5, Insightful)

Tridus (79566) | about 2 years ago | (#41094131)

Except that's not what happened. TSA cleared him without incident. Delta (as in: the airline) raised a fuss. TSA then cleared him *again* with considerably more hassle, and Delta still wouldn't let him on the plane.

TSA is bad, but they aren't actually the culprits in this story.

seriously? (5, Insightful)

jsepeta (412566) | about 2 years ago | (#41093657)

what kind of dipshit is afraid of a t-shirt? obviously this guy is being pushed around because of his name and genetic background. i smell LAWSUIT.

Re:seriously? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093787)

Your attitude is the precisely reason why we have such fucked up airport security. Instead of profiling people that look and act suspicious, we have to do naked body scanners on everyone otherwise people like you cry "discrimination! lawsuit!".

Re:seriously? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093861)

Fuck off troll. You already have these fucking body scanners and we *STILL* have racial profiling. Body scanners are more security theater, and a way to get kickbacks for the companies that lobbied the "righteous" US political system.

Re:seriously? (1, Insightful)

Gordonjcp (186804) | about 2 years ago | (#41094003)

Damn near everybody that's committed a terrorist offence in the UK has been white (and funded by US republicans, but that's another story). How is racial profiling going to help, there?

Re:seriously? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094203)

Ask them if they spell whisky with an "e".

Re:seriously? (4, Funny)

cusco (717999) | about 2 years ago | (#41093803)

I would totally do this, but my wife would kill me. I'm far more afraid of her displeasure than that of some TSA idiot.

Re:seriously? (1)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#41093889)

So I am not the only one who holds this belief. My wife always gets mad at me when the clerks at the store forget to disable the anti theft tags and I set off the alarm and just keep walking. I can only imagine her rage if I were to wear an anti TSA shirt to the airport.

Re:seriously? (4, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41094097)

I guess a t-shirt with a hand pointing to your wife with the caption "She likes being patted down." is out of the question.

Re:seriously? (3, Funny)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#41094163)

I would only wear that if I wanted a divorce or felt the need to be turned into a eunuch while I sleep.

Re:seriously? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093921)

Wow hey lets play the race card when shit don't go your way. The dude had a shirt that was meant to piss people off, he got his wish.

Darwin award but only honourable mention as he was not killed for his act of stupidity

Seriously, get a grip on the race thing.

Re:seriously? (0)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094141)

Him being stupid and chumming the waters while swimming among sharks does not make it ok for there to be sharks there.

Re:seriously? (3, Funny)

pr0nbot (313417) | about 2 years ago | (#41094081)

I once unthinkingly put on a t-shirt that had a machine gun [backstreet-merch.com] on it on the day I was travelling. At security I was asked to turn it inside out (by the guys with actual machine guns), which I did, and that was that. Thankfully I wasn't wearing one of my other t-shirts... [photobucket.com]

Re:seriously? (2)

mounthood (993037) | about 2 years ago | (#41094153)

what kind of dipshit is afraid of a t-shirt? obviously this guy is being pushed around because of his name and genetic background. i smell LAWSUIT.

IANAL, but all of this has happened before (and it will all happen again):

Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971) was a United States Supreme Court case dealing with freedom of speech. The Court overturned a disturbing the peace conviction of a man wearing a jacket bearing the phrase, "Fuck the Draft."

Holding
The First Amendment, as applied through the Fourteenth, prohibits states from making the public display of a single four-letter expletive a criminal offense, without a more specific and compelling reason than a general tendency to disturb the peace. Court of Appeal of California reversed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California [wikipedia.org]

TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing her (5, Informative)

Maow (620678) | about 2 years ago | (#41093687)

From the same site [rt.com] :

What would have likely been a routine flight out of a Florida airport this weekend ended with a woman being sent to the emergency room after TSA agents insisted on groping a traumatized rape victim in a security pat-down that put her in the hospital.

Live free or die indeed.

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093835)

America is the only country that gropes It's passengers. Israel profiles, & has no hijackings.

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093913)

I am TheRadiomikeman @Twitter
TSA will include WalMarts,Theaters,BigBox stores and anywhere else they can get their touchy/feely hands.

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094125)

Profiling is not politically correct! But poking our fingers into every of your holes so is :)

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (5, Insightful)

cffrost (885375) | about 2 years ago | (#41094223)

America is the only country that gropes It's passengers. Israel profiles, & has no hijackings.

Profiling by ethnicity doesn't work; for one thing, it's vulnerable to proxy bomb attacks. I've posted links on this many times before; search for the "Carnival Booth" paper from MIT. I recommend Schneier's site or DuckDuckGo.

El Al's security apparatus (behavioral profiling, interviews, luggage depressurization, and tarmac security, off the top of my head) have been said to be infeasible due to scalability in a country of over 300 million. However, I haven't seen an data to back up this claim, nor have I done the math.

I'm not saying I support the current system; I find it deplorable and refuse to fly, going on six years. I'd like to see a return to sane, pre-2001-09 security procedures. At least, that's what it'd take to get me to voluntarily set foot on a commercial airliner again.

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094179)

RT is Russian state media, backed by the Kremlin.

What could possibly be their interest in stoking this kind of discontent?!

Re:TSA screens rape victem, further traumatizing h (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 2 years ago | (#41094183)

My god, that is a mess. And another reason why I just drover over 2000 miles for my last vacation.

TSA got bored (5, Funny)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about 2 years ago | (#41093699)

If the Miss Universe pageant had been boarding that plane, the TSA would have been to busy putting them through the body scanner to even notice this guy's shirt.

Re:TSA got bored (4, Informative)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 2 years ago | (#41094195)

RTFA. TSA didn't do it. Delta did. The TSA passed him, and Delta pitched a fit.

fear itself (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093709)

Hi folks,

Just as a brief FYI, we're REALLY starting to worry about you Yanks.
Please get your house in order, before things get truly out of control.
If you wait much longer (and we may be talking seconds here), the choice will be gone.

With compassion,
the Rest of the World

Re:fear itself (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094011)

Dear Rest of World,

Fuck off.

Love,

Uncle Sam

Re:fear itself (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094073)

Precisely the sort of attitude that got you in this mess in the first place.

Freedom to wear the shirt. (2, Insightful)

Sez Zero (586611) | about 2 years ago | (#41093723)

Freedom to wear the shirt, not free from the consequences of wearing the shirt.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (4, Insightful)

fredrated (639554) | about 2 years ago | (#41093801)

And why should there be consequences to wearing a f***ing t-shirt, I think that is the jist of the discussion.

t-shirt trolling (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093879)

damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The guy was being a real life troll. I can only predict he would be pushing everyone's buttons on the airplane just so he could scream bias/ racism/ prejudice.

Kind of reminds me of the annoying kid who wouldn't shut up in the classroom in grade school because he's, "in america and have the first amendment rights to free speech." You also have the freedom to be a dumbass. Don't be surprised if you get beat up in the playground.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093997)

How can anyone be naive enough to think that you can wear an anti-TSA T-shirt when you're going through a TSA checkpoint and not have a problem?

Anyone doing this is playing a kind of legal game with a bunch of guys who, as far as they are concerned, are only doing their job. They deliberately make themselves stand out to the TSA agents, and dare them to do something about it. And then they complain because the TSA agents do something about it. It's the equivalent of going up to a 200lb body builder and saying, "hey, loser" and then complaining because you got punched. Deep down the guy wants to be stopped by the TSA, just so he can complain about it. Frankly, it's pathetic.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (2)

Dr Damage I (692789) | about 2 years ago | (#41094127)

If harassing someone because they're wearing a T shirt that mocks them seems to TSA agents as "only doing their job", they need some serious retraining. Or better yet, some serious firing. Out of a cannon by preference but from their job will do in a pinch

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (5, Insightful)

imnotanumber (1712006) | about 2 years ago | (#41093849)

Freedom to wear the shirt, not free from the consequences of wearing the shirt.

By that logic, even the people from North Korea are free, even to mock their beloved ruler...

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (4, Informative)

evilRhino (638506) | about 2 years ago | (#41094069)

False equivalency. The TSA (government) let him through without incident, it was a private business (Delta) that blocked him from boarding the plane.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094181)

Business kicks customer out because manager thinks he's a dick; !news.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093851)

You are free to criticize our honorable leader, and he is free to have you executed.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (3, Insightful)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#41093863)

Very true, and it's something that's often forgotten by people who cry about their freedom of expression.

However, those consequences should not have to include unwarranted abuse by the TSA. The TSA is there to keep passengers safe by keeping people with ill intent out, period. Their remit does not (or should not) include harassing people who rub them the wrong way. If they detained him purely because of the shirt, then they should be taken to task for that. And this seems to be the case... why else would the airline captain mention the shirt at all?

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (1, Interesting)

Tridus (79566) | about 2 years ago | (#41093865)

"Sure you can wear the shirt, but if you do then government thugs will do unkind things to you."

Land of the "free" indeed.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (1)

Heed00 (1473203) | about 2 years ago | (#41093893)

America -- fuck yeah!

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (2, Insightful)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41093905)

Freedom from government consequences....

However, it appears it was Delta (a Private company) that complained and ultimately decided they did not want him as a customer. By his own account the TSA let him through without any hassle. They were probably busy groping children and old people.

Re:Freedom to wear the shirt. (1)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about 2 years ago | (#41093939)

Well, yes, but that doesn't mean the other person has the right to over-dramatize the event to the point it takes the other person's rights away.

Secondly, he was wearing a parody shirt, not a shirt that said "OMG! I am going to bomb this plane!!!11!".

We have a right to stop listening to someone like Rush Limbaugh when he says something that we don't like, but we don't have the right to make him stop saying it. Our rights end at his nose.

Wrong beyond belief. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093949)

Freedom to wear the shirt, not free from the consequences of wearing the shirt.

The TSA is a government agency.

The First Amendment applies to Government.

The TSA is 100% in the wrong no excuses. Period. End of story.

That Delta pilot and subsequently Delta airlines, although being intolerant douche bags, are well within their rights.

Jesus F'n Christ! No wonder we're losing our Rights!

Basic Civics - people!

Right. Using the same logic... (1)

demon driver (1046738) | about 2 years ago | (#41094089)

... the Jews in Nazi Germany were free to be Jews. Just not free from the consequences of being brought to concentration camps and murdered.

(This is *not* comparing the event told by TFA to the shoah, by the way and just in case.)

But thanks for the brilliant demonstration of how dubious the term "free" sometimes gets used and probably is never going to stop to be used.

Quite a lot (5, Insightful)

ah.clem (147626) | about 2 years ago | (#41093735)

>> Just how much humiliation is the general American public willing to tolerate in the name of 'security'?"

Quite a lot apparently, quite a lot.

Re:Quite a lot (4, Funny)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about 2 years ago | (#41093769)

It's not toleration. It's just that it doesn't have anything to do with the Kardashians.

Re:Quite a lot (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094101)

How much of it is apathy, and how much of it is grudging acceptance of the fact that they've got us by the balls as gatekeepers between us and the flights we need?

TSA info chart (4, Informative)

worf_mo (193770) | about 2 years ago | (#41093737)

The TSA info chart [onlinecrim...degree.com] is quite interesting.

fuck the TSA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093755)

print t-shirts that say

fuck the TSA

Overt Camoflague (2)

d3jake (1335521) | about 2 years ago | (#41093783)

Because someone who is that obvious about wearing an anti-TSA shirt will *totally* be the one who's going to not draw suspicion so they can bomb a plane....riiiight...

The real story link (5, Informative)

OzPeter (195038) | about 2 years ago | (#41093809)

Arijit's actual blog Arijit Vs. Delta [blogspot.co.uk]

Love the Shirt! (3, Interesting)

dopaz (148229) | about 2 years ago | (#41093831)

Where can I buy that shirt?

Re:Love the Shirt! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094157)

It's a bit outdated. Needs a version with the Delta Airlines logo instead.

Freedom of thought? Freedom of speec? Not so much! (1)

Jeppe Salvesen (101622) | about 2 years ago | (#41093845)

You guys are losing the plot.

Re:Freedom of thought? Freedom of speec? Not so mu (1)

memeplex (910698) | about 2 years ago | (#41093989)

I think this guy got exactly what he wanted: publicity for the anti-TSA cause. Try "saying" something loud about bombs or terrorism in a security line or on a plane. You're asking for trouble, and you know it. I'm not saying it's good or justified, but I don't walk up to cops on the street with anti-police shirts with "robbery", "assault" or "weapon" on them, even though it's legal.

america is not a first rate country (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093853)

sure we have a few super rich billionaire tycoons but so does Russia and it doesn't stop Russia from being a shit hole either.

Failed the Attitude Test (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | about 2 years ago | (#41093867)

It's always been there, it's just more naked now.

I do have to wonder what he expected to happen. Wasn't this the exactly the outcome that the shirt itself predicted?

Point well made, he could have laughed it off and covered or removed the shirt, so that it could be taken away for controlled detonated by the Freedom Disposal Squad.

he made a mistake (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | about 2 years ago | (#41093873)

What he should have done is asked everybody involved for their names, written them down, and posted them on his blog. Naming and shaming publically the dipshits is the only way to scare them and making them behave.

So, task for the Anonymous Legion: Who's the pilot of the airplane? What's his address? Who's the manager on duty? What's his address? Who are the TSA agents who were guarding the gate at that particular time? What's their address? Send them all a complimentary T-shirt.

Re:he made a mistake (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094065)

Great way to end up on the no fly list.

Texas state government btw tried to prevent this by making it illegal to grope.

The feds backed them off by threatening to add Texas to a federal no fly zone.

Simple...Don't Fly (4, Insightful)

Cpt_Kirks (37296) | about 2 years ago | (#41093877)

I see no reason to submit to their bullshit. I have not flown in nearly 7 years, and don't see it happening any time soon.

If enough people simply refuse to fly, the airlines will go belly up, or they will lobby to remove the TSA. Though, the private thugs they replace them with probably won't be any better.

Re:Simple...Don't Fly (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094045)

For starters, if they grope you, you could probably sue them without the inconvenient bit of sovereign immunity getting in the way.

Re:Simple...Don't Fly (2)

cusco (717999) | about 2 years ago | (#41094161)

Nah, the airlines will just ask for yet another government bailout, and get it. How many times has Continental been rescued from bankruptcy by the Feds? Three, I think, plus they (and IIRC the rest of the industry) were liberated from the burden of actually honoring the pension plans in the legally binding contract that they signed with their employees.

Bombs and terrorists (1)

jonnythan (79727) | about 2 years ago | (#41093881)

What kind of idiot wears a shirt that says "bombs" and "terrorists" and "gonna kill us all" onto a plane?

Re:Bombs and terrorists (1, Troll)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about 2 years ago | (#41093985)

What kind of idiot doesn't understand parody?

Ooops, sorry. I live in the USA, where at least 51% of population are idiots and don't understand parody. My bad.

Illusions (4, Insightful)

chill (34294) | about 2 years ago | (#41093883)

While some people grumble and complain about the process, I've also encountered many people who believe what the TSA is doing is actually protecting them from terrorism.

More to the point, they honestly believe that there are terrorists right around the corner just waiting to blow them up. Not in an abstract but THEM, specifically. You know, it could happen anywhere so it could happen to YOU and it could happen HERE!

Their lives are so boring and mundane they get a thrill over the possibility that something important could happen to them or someone they know. Even if it is something like a terrorist attack, it makes them feel special. As if the town of Bumfuck, Nowhere was chosen special for a target.

It gives them something to gossip about. "What if..." It is essentially one of the same motivations that drives people to buy lottery tickets. They can dream "what if..." and not have to face the dull reality that is their life.

It's really sad.

toleration (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093887)

"Just how much humiliation is the general American public willing to tolerate in the name of 'security'?"

In fascist america, you tolerate it all.

Not the TSA (4, Interesting)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 2 years ago | (#41093901)

As most of you, I only read TFS, but this wasn't the TSA to blame.

It's completly in a pilots discretion if he want's to have some prankster on board who doesn't care if the whole flight gets delayed because of a funny shirt.

He has the right to remove anyone from the plane. For anything else, complain to the airline afterwards.

This system works as long as you put somewhat reasonable and responsible people in the cockpit. And if he pulls that stunt too often, he'll be sanctioned by his employer. That's a completly different situation from some minimum-wage guy who only would get sanctioned for NOT bullying people around and gets paid (and perhaps rewarded) for strictly following procedures, not thinking about if that would be stupid.

Please note: I don't say what the pilot did was right, but he had the right to make that descision.

He's a terrorist!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093903)

Torture and butcher this monster now!!! How dare anyone speak ill of our government.

In the name of freedom... (1)

counterplex (765033) | about 2 years ago | (#41093927)

...we'll destroy what it means to be free. This song about the I.C.E by a Canadian folk singer applies equally well to any part of the security theater that exists in US airports: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AH_YgN6os [youtube.com]

Text of the shirt (4, Informative)

martyros (588782) | about 2 years ago | (#41093945)

First, its important to know exactly what the shirt said. Neither the summary nor the article quote it, but the image printed on the shirt [blogspot.com] seems to say:

BOMBS ZOMG ZOMG TERRORISTS GONNA KILL US ALL ZOMG ZOMG ALERT LEVEL BLOODRED RUN RUN TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES MOISTURE

Now, it's always been pretty clear to me that just saying the word "bomb" in an airpot is a recipe for trouble. Lots of signs are posted everywhere saying that all statements must be taken seriously, even if they're said in a joking manner. In other words, you just don't joke about bombs in an airport.

Secondly, the summary doesn't make it clear that it wasn't the TSA who took issue with things, and ultimately kicked him off the plane, but that it was a guy from Delta. It seems completely plausible to me that some of the other passengers saw his shirt and really were "very uncomfortable". Maybe they shouldn't have been, but nonetheless they were. Given that there were customers who were uncomfortable, and the fact that this guy really should have known better than wear a shirt with "bomb" on it in the airpot, I can see why the Delta rep kicked the guy off the flight.

Re:Text of the shirt (0)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094031)

Which is fine and dandy.

Except that I doubt they gave the guy a refund for the ticket he bought.

When you refuse service to someone, you don't keep their money.

Re:Text of the shirt (2)

martyros (588782) | about 2 years ago | (#41094123)

OK, it's one thing to only go off what was said in the summary, but it's another thing to just make stuff up out of thin air and then be offended about it. If you read his blog post [blogspot.co.uk] , which is linked to from TFA, you'll find that Delta gave he and his wife another flight the next day.

of course he got booted (2, Insightful)

nauseum_dot (1291664) | about 2 years ago | (#41093953)

I'm going to say that most people 45+ don't know what ZOMG means. Therefore, seeing something that says "Gonna Kill US All ZOMG" would be a bit unnerving. Even though it is security theater, society has norms that state when people deem to be right and wrong. Wearing a shirt that has that message is wrong because it breaks those societal courtesies. Putting someone's grandma in a state of unease for something that is already not exactly the most fun doesn't sit well in my book.

I applaud the pilot. It is his job to get the plane safely in the air and back to the ground. He probably saw it for what it was, but decided he didn't want one the passengers beating the shit out of this guy mid-air because they felt threatened. Bruce Schneier has pointed out numerous times that the acts against the World Trade Center have empowered the average citizen to stand up and fight if they closely felt threatened. That could have been the case and may have saved the student further grief.

mod do3n (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41093975)

Slashdot's Platfo8m for the

3 steps to undeserved fame (0)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#41093987)

  • 1. Go out of your way to piss off government officials.
  • 2. Complain about the predictable abuse this attracts.
  • 3. Collect undeserved admiration on Slashdot.

nt (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41094007)

So let me get this straight.

Even AFTER the tsa boards the guy, the pilot, lord of his personal fiefdom, can expel a passenger just for wearing a t-shirt, and even after he already paid for his plane ticket?

Re:nt (1)

cusco (717999) | about 2 years ago | (#41094215)

Yup, and the airline doesn't have to give him a refund or put him on another flight. I think he gets to keep his air miles though.

As the humorous slogan goes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094015)

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

The abuses will continue for exactly as long as we the people of the United States of America continue to allow our elected representatives to labor under the false assumption that we are cowards who place a greater value on our safety than our liberty, and on our security than our dignity. The TSA does not respect us because we allow them to show us blatant disrespect, and get away with it. Want to put a stop to the abuses, folks? Stop flying on the airlines. Call your representatives and tell them about your decision. Then BY GOD stick by it!!!

When enough people do this it WILL stop. If you refuse... expect the groping, racial discrimination, and other wanton abuses of power to continue and realize that if you acquiesce, YOU RIGHTLY DESERVE THE ABUSE for you are a coward! That's why I haven't traveled by air in years. I FUCKING REFUSE to be so treated.

The US population LOVES the TSA (2, Interesting)

bheuvel78 (2713979) | about 2 years ago | (#41094025)

Not sure why you all complain, the US loves the TSA:

Despite recent negative press, a majority of Americans, 54%, think the U.S. Transportation Security Administration is doing either an excellent or a good job of handling security screening at airports. At the same time, 41% think TSA screening procedures are extremely or very effective at preventing acts of terrorism on U.S. airplanes, with most of the rest saying they are somewhat effective.

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/08/poll_americans.html [schneier.com]

God Bless The TSA (1)

justthinkit (954982) | about 2 years ago | (#41094027)

Someone needs to combine the tune "God Bless The USA" with some choice lyrics about the TSA to create "God Bless The TSA". It goes viral, everyone hums the tune while boarding and TSA employees start looking like kings with no clothes.

Really? (0)

Senior Frac (110715) | about 2 years ago | (#41094037)

This is a knee-jerk reaction, but I am going to just say it anyway.

My instinct tells me it is much more likely they were denied for just being jerks during the whole ordeal. I just find it highly unlikely that someone would decide to wear such a shirt in advance, arrive at the terminal, and not do or say other things to provoke. I suppose it's possible... in some alternate universe.

Privilege, not a right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094039)

Everyone needs to realize that convenient travel is a privilege, not a right. The only guaranteed form of travel is on foot. The faster forms of travel (air, train, auto) are only available to us because of the good will of large corporations and governments. If we're not willing to follow their rules and pay a premium, we don't deserve to move around easily.

Isn't Delta actually at fault here? (1)

Tridus (79566) | about 2 years ago | (#41094053)

Not that I don't love a good TSA bashing (because they deserve it), but he got through TSA screening without incident. It was a Delta supervisor who raised a fuss, and then Delta who wouldn't let him on the plane after he was cleared by security a *second* time.

Lets make sure we blame the right people for this kind of nonsense. This is corporate bullshit, not government bullshit.

European TSA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094061)

Don't know about US, but here in EU I managed to (first unknowingly) carry around a Walther 3.something inch folding tactical knife through 3 airport security checks. Had to show, find and pack in plastic some astray liquids though and throw away one forgotten-in-my-bag metallic lighter (such a fancy one they give away with two packs of cigarettes for promotion).

As I discovered it while already at my destination, I had the definite plan to try to take it back home with me. Worked like a charm.

Re:European TSA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41094119)

Yeah, the captcha for the post was "ashamed" but not really. Just what might have happened if I asked during flight the flight-attendant "I'm sorry, is this an allowed item? ARRRH!".

Now remember kids (1)

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) | about 2 years ago | (#41094105)

TSA:

Terrorists
Suppressing
Americans

RT is journalisim? (1)

3count (1039602) | about 2 years ago | (#41094147)

I'm sure something happened here, but all RT reports is a summary of the blog entry. I've watched RT (it is broadcast over the air in my part of the U.S.) and it is most certainly not a neutral source. Did anyone review the police reports? Get the scoop from a Delta spokesperson? Talk to his wife, or another passenger in the area? Surely the TSA and airline industry have earned their reputation. But there are also people looking to paint them all in a bad light. This is very disturbing if true. I want to see some independent accounts before I believe I understand what happened. Hopefully some other news sources will pick up the story.

The Shirt Worked (1)

Stickerboy (61554) | about 2 years ago | (#41094185)

I don't agree with the treatment that he received. And I'm highly critical of the TSA security theater as well. But I'm curious what kind of response he was expecting when he purposefully went through airport wearing that T-shirt.

Back in the '70s, people did this kind of shit expecting to get arrested - that was at least part of the point of civil disobedience.

If he wears a T-shirt walking through Harlem that says "PLEASE DONATE TO THE N*ERS NEED TO GO BACK TO AFRIKA FUND" I would expect that he would get the shit kicked out of him fairly quickly, free speech or no free speech. If the police are interviewing him as a person of interest (or me, or whoever) and he chooses to wear a T-shirt that says "ZOMG ARENT THE DONUTZ GETTING COLD PIGZ" I would expect that he would be harassed there (at a minimum), as well, rights or no rights.

I may defend the right of this dude to wear the shirt wherever he wants, but intentionally provoking the TSA will cause a reaction. And if he doesn't realize that, then either A) he's an idiot or B) being disingenuous about his civil disobedience, which loses him respect.

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