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Gottfrid Svartholm Warg Arrested In Cambodia

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the hear-the-spiders-are-delicious dept.

Piracy 138

An anonymous reader writes "The Pirate Bay co-founder Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, alias "anakata," was arrested two days ago (Original, Swedish) in Pnohm Pehn, Cambodia and may soon be facing extradition to Sweden (alternate sources: Aftonbladet (Swedish), IDG (Swedish)). He was sentenced to one year in prison for his involvement in The Pirate Bay in 2009 and failed to appear at the prison to serve his sentence. On a related note, the domain freeanakata.se seems to have been registered today although it currently isn't resolving."

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Free Hat! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199289)

You know this to be true!

So the moral of the story is (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199291)

Don't rip off other people's shit. Especially when they're rich and have your govt in their pocket.

Re:So the moral of the story is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199503)

You're right, they should release him immediately.

Sweden in general (4, Interesting)

IamGarageGuy 2 (687655) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199307)

It appears to me that Sweden is becoming the centre of internet freedom battles. Is this geographical, cultural,legal or just luck of the draw?

Re:Sweden in general (2, Insightful)

SquarePixel (1851068) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199339)

It's just because Sweden has always had quite nerdy population. And good internet access. Even girls use internet over there. Sweden was also always treated as safe haven for such things and when the laws changed, it came crashing down.

Re:Sweden in general (3, Funny)

jon3k (691256) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200829)

Holy shit you let women on the internet????? Does the Internet High Council know about this???????

Re:Sweden in general (-1, Flamebait)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199343)

t appears to me that Sweden is becoming the centre of internet freedom battles. Is this geographical, cultural,legal or just luck of the draw?

Your impression seems to be wrong. To me, it looks like Swedish police is just not very good at holding on to convicted criminals and to suspects in criminal cases. One guy convicted to a year in jail and he disappears (now found in Cambodia of all places), another guy accused of rape, leaves the country when his lawyer tells him that he is wanted for questioning, caught in Britain and released on bail, then disappearing into some embassy in breach of his bail conditions, which _does_ make him a criminal in the UK.

Re:Sweden in general (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199415)

These weren't cases anyone cared about until US money and pressure started telling Swedish authorities to care about them.

Re:Sweden in general (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199435)

Slashdotters are so ignorant. Why do you think that the U.S. is the only country that cares about enforcing the copyright laws that were passed by its legislature? You understand that other countries have laws, businesses, and music industry groups as well, right?

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199463)

Yep, owned by American/Japanese companies

Re:Sweden in general (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199509)

Ah, but who else has a "watch list [wikileaks.org] "? Who else has the power to enforce it?

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199517)

Who else has the power to enforce it?

Any county with a Military.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200165)

Slashdotters are so ignorant. Why do you think that the U.S. is the only country that cares about enforcing the copyright laws that were passed by its legislature? You understand that other countries have laws, businesses, and music industry groups as well, right?

sure, but those industry groups again mostly cater for the american record and movie companies interests.

but, copyright/pirate cases ARE NOT NEW in nordic countries. GETTING JAILTIME FOR THEM IS !.
you used to be able to get without jailtime even for _stealing_ the bandwidth you ran your warez site on for fucks sake.

_highly_ selective prosecution is another part of this mess in nordic countries - which should not be the nordic way!

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200373)

Why do you think that the U.S. is the only country that cares about enforcing the copyright laws that were passed by its legislature?

In this particular case I would say that a contributing factor would be that the request to shut down The Pirate Bay came from The White House [aftonbladet.se]
If you had bothered to read up on the Pirate Bay case you would have known that the Pirate Bay raid would not have happened if it weren't for pressure from the U.S. Slashdotters are so ignorant indeed.

Re:Sweden in general (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199883)

Wow, you're an idiot. America is not the only force in the world. These people are breaking local laws and getting punished for it, the US had nothing to do with it.

Re:Sweden in general (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199777)

t appears to me that Sweden is becoming the centre of internet freedom battles. Is this geographical, cultural,legal or just luck of the draw?

/---/ another guy accused of rape, leaves the country when his lawyer tells him that he is wanted for questioning, caught in Britain and released on bail, then disappearing into some embassy in breach of his bail conditions, which _does_ make him a criminal in the UK.

In a similar manner, leaving Sweden (after he had been requested to stay in Sweden by Swedish authorities) made him a criminal in Sweden (aside from being a suspect of rape and creating danger for another (sw: "Framkallande av fara", not sure what it is called in English legalise)). Sweden doesn't have a bail system, Swedish autorities just request criminal suspect to stay within reach (unless they believe the criminal is likely to commit new crimes), if the suspect doesn't accept the terms, he can choose to be put into arrest instead, at longest the time of the imprisonment for the crime he is suspected of have commited (in this case about 2-3 years for the rapes and, possibly, about 2 years for creating danger to another).

If Julian Assange had played by the (Swedish) rules, he would likely have been a free man within half a year from now. And Swedish authorities wouldn't have stopped him from continue his Wikileaks business during his time of imprisonment.

Bail systems only limit the movement of suspects with very limited monetary resources, which Assange haven't, he can ask his supporters for money to pay his bails.

In my opinion, Julian Assange is a paranoid fool (as well as an misogynic asshole). If he had stayed in Sweden, his life would have been a lot less complicated. It is also much more likely that the British authorities turn him over to US, then the Swedish authorities: a) Sweden don't turn over criminal suspects to other countries, if they could be punished by death (however unlikely it is in this case), tortured (likely in this case, by the Swedish legal definition of what constitutes torture), or not receive a fair trail (very likely in this case); b) Wikileaks have done nothing criminal according to Swedish law, on the contrary, media outlets doing the same things as wikileaks have very strong legal protection in Sweden; c) Swedish authorities got really burned in 2001 by a US government that didn’t keep their promises and didn't tell the truth, when they have handed over two "criminal suspects" to US agents (the English language wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] seem to have been slightly censored), making Swedish authorities look very gullible.

On the other hand, how The Pirate Bay affair was handled by Swedish authorities is not proportional to how Swedish authorities usually handle such cases. At least the Minster of Justice, Thomas Bodströms, personal involvement in the case was against, at least the spirit of, Swedish law, and such involvement from a Swedish Minister in any case have not been known to happen since the 1970's (The Geijer Affair [wikipedia.org] , The IB Affair [wikipedia.org] ).

Re:Sweden in general (1)

sco08y (615665) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200079)

In a similar manner, leaving Sweden (after he had been requested to stay in Sweden by Swedish authorities) made him a criminal in Sweden (aside from being a suspect of rape and creating danger for another (sw: "Framkallande av fara", not sure what it is called in English legalise)). Sweden doesn't have a bail system, Swedish autorities just request criminal suspect to stay within reach (unless they believe the criminal is likely to commit new crimes), if the suspect doesn't accept the terms, he can choose to be put into arrest instead, at longest the time of the imprisonment for the crime he is suspected of have commited (in this case about 2-3 years for the rapes and, possibly, about 2 years for creating danger to another).

If Julian Assange had played by the (Swedish) rules, he would likely have been a free man within half a year from now. And Swedish authorities wouldn't have stopped him from continue his Wikileaks business during his time of imprisonment.

Bail systems only limit the movement of suspects with very limited monetary resources, which Assange haven't, he can ask his supporters for money to pay his bails.

In my opinion, Julian Assange is a paranoid fool (as well as an misogynic asshole). If he had stayed in Sweden, his life would have been a lot less complicated.

Interesting. In fairness to bail systems, they're not intended to restrict movement, they're there to keep honest people from being stupid and not showing up at court. If a judge thinks someone is a flight risk they simply don't get bail.

Re:Sweden in general (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200141)

In a similar manner, leaving Sweden (after he had been requested to stay in Sweden by Swedish authorities) made him a criminal in Sweden

That's not what happened though. He stayed for several weeks, said he was going to leave for engagements in the UK, got an ok to leave and left.

I'm surprised you were able to post all that text, yet hadn't researched even the basics on the topic.

/ an ashamed Swede

Re:Sweden in general (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200403)

c) Swedish authorities got really burned in 2001 by a US government that didn’t keep their promises and didn't tell the truth, when they have handed over two "criminal suspects" to US agents (the English language wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] seem to have been slightly censored), making Swedish authorities look very gullible.

The only thing we can say for sure is that Sweden now have a history of turning over people to countries where they can be tortured without having any kind of evidence for their alleged crimes. Julian Assange might be paranoid but he also have a reason to be. Obviously neither Sweden nor the U.S. are above breaking their own laws and resorting to torture by proxy.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200777)

In my opinion, Julian Assange is [...] an misogynic asshole

What evidence do you base this opinion on?

If Julian Assange had played by the (Swedish) rules, he would likely have been a free man within half a year from now. And Swedish authorities wouldn't have stopped him from continue his Wikileaks business during his time of imprisonment.

Implying that he would have stayed in Sweden and not been extradited. But then why did the UK government issue a thinly-veiled threat to invade the Ecuadorian embassy, reiterate that threat [theregister.co.uk] recently by refusing to rule out the idea of violating diplomatic immunity, and come pretty close to storming the embassy because of heavy US pressure [wikileaks.org] to do so, according to former UK diplomat Craig Murray?

Re:Sweden in general (3, Interesting)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199997)

We should start a campaign to extradite everyone to Sweden. I think it would be a great protest movement.

Re:Sweden in general (5, Informative)

koolfy (1213316) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200051)

another guy accused of rape

Julian Assange has not been charged of anything by any authority of any kind. He is wanted for questioning on allegations of sexual misconduct Source [justice4assange.com]

leaves the country when his lawyer tells him that he is wanted for questioning

Before leaving the country he consulted with the judge, who decided there was nothing holding him there and he could leave Swedish soil [skandinaviflorida.com] .

caught in Britain

Not caught, he turned himself to the police [globalpost.com] after it became clear that the illegal (or at least illegitimate) Interpol red notice [truthout.org] was not going away. This, in the hope of resolving the matter.

then disappearing into some embassy

He did not disappear, he sought asylum. [guardian.co.uk] That's quite a difference.

in breach of his bail conditions

Because it was the only choice he had left to avoid being ultimately handed over to a country where he would be tortured or executed, thus breaching the Geneva Conventions [wikipedia.org]

which _does_ make him a criminal in the UK

He has not been charged nor convicted of any crime by any government yet [talkradionews.com] , not Sweden, not the USA, not even the UK as far as I can tell. (prove me otherwise)

On the other hand, Augusto Pinochet, charged by Spain for the killing of 3000 Chilean people, and torturing 30 000 more [wikipedia.org] , including the raping of political prisoners with trained dogs [rrojasdatabank.info] , was not only not extradited by the UK [wikipedia.org] but often drank tea with Margaret Tacher [wikipedia.org]


This just goes to show you how much lies we are being fed by governments and medias alike. It's fairly easy to hear officials make the same mistakes as you did.
Not because they are ignorant. Then know very well the details of this case. They're not stupid. They just choose to deliberately lie.

You can agree or disagree with the importance of what Wikileaks does, and the importance of what Assange and Manning do for our society, but that doesn't make your claims any less WRONG

Re:Sweden in general (4, Informative)

Shihar (153932) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200275)

Julian Assange has not been charged of anything by any authority of any kind. He is wanted for questioning on allegations of sexual misconduct

I can only assume that you are from Britain or the US (or some nation with a similar system of law) if you think this matters. Sweden's legal system is different. If he was on the run from the US instead of Sweden with the exact same charges and they held the same legal weight, he would have an arrest warrant out and have been charged. The US, Britain, and other similar legal systems charge someone formally and then try and capture them in most cases. The suspect is rarely present when charged. The Swedish system captures them and then charges them. Successfully running when they initiate the "capture and question" part of the Swedish system doesn't mean a get out of jail free card. It is of the same severity and holds similar legal weight to being charged in the US or Britain and having arrest warrant issued. This isn't the voluntary phase where you can talk to the police or not. He is in the "we are going to hold you and question you" phase, and there is a legal warrant to detain him which he has run from, which is why Britain is willing to extradite him.

Whether or not the charges are legitimate and is this a secret plot by the US to snag him, I'll let other people argue. I'm happy Wikileaks exists regardless of whether or not Assange is a douche bag.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200763)

"Whether or not the charges are legitimate and is this a secret plot by the US to snag him, I'll let other people argue."

I've got you covered there. The rape allegations are by far one of the most obvious bullshit excuses for a man hunt in recent times, right up there with Saddam's WMDs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAPBbxOw7Jw

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41201025)

, another guy accused of rape, leaves the country when his lawyer tells him that he is wanted for questioning, caught in Britain and released on bail, then disappearing into some embassy in breach of his bail conditions, which _does_ make him a criminal in the UK.

Wrong, completely wrong.

Assange was originally not accused of anything. When the rape charge was brought up, a Swedish prosecutor threw it to the bin as nonsense. Case closed. Assange wanted to know if he's free to leave Sweden. He was told he is free to leave Sweden. Thus Assange left Sweden, and had no trouble getting out of the country either.

Once Assange left Sweden, another prosecutor in a completely different district suddenly reopened the case and involved the Interpol with it.

Assange rightfully fears for his life. The hunt for him is politically motivated. They are going to keep Assange out of sight and alive in the Equador embassy until the US elections are over. He's too much of a wildcard. Once the elections are done, USA will step up the pressure.

If the press and news media did their job, we would not need Julian Assange. Therefore Assange is also a threat to the established press and journalists thereof, and one can observe the vitriol being spewed on Assange. This is especially prevalent in writings by "journalists" who are no more than echo chambers of official government thought.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41201289)

Ah, you're a good little fascist punk, aren't you ?

Anyone who has intelligence and has bothered to read the entire set of info
on Assange knows it is all trumped-up legal bullshit which is a ruse designed to
get him to a country which is known to have cooperate with the US CIA in
"extraordinary rendition" ( otherwise known as kidnapping and torture ).

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199353)

What goes around comes around.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

muon-catalyzed (2483394) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199373)

This is completely unrelated.. and this guys is obviously panicking, Sweden is very soft even to real criminals, they might be even softer then their neighbor Norway (where a man executed 77 children and only got max of 21 years in a comfy prison cell with a laptop and TV). The prison there is more like a rehab.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199449)

And you forgot the treadmill :D

Re:Sweden in general (4, Informative)

Sqr(twg) (2126054) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199511)

Breivik was sentenced to cointainment. That means he will only get out if he's deemed to no longer be dangerous to society. Very likely he'll be in prison until he dies.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199803)

Reform is the goal, and would be the greatest possible victory for society.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199983)

If someone kidnaps a little girl, locks her in a basement and tortures her daily for 3 years, that person should have the same thing done to them unless the victim chooses forgiveness. Why would you think otherwise? Because you're squeamish? Because you don't like it? So what. Why do your preferences have any relevance when you're not the victim?

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200033)

Agree in principle, but who's going to do the torturing? The problem with lex talonis, even if we only applied it to cases that are completely obvious, is that it's unsustainable in our societies.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200515)

Agree in principle, but who's going to do the torturing?

Who does the cooking? You can do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

digitig (1056110) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200047)

Why would you think that? Because you're vindictive? Because you like it? So what. Why do your preferences have any relevance when you're not the victim?

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200159)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A

Look, I'm not the parent, but some of us are naturally more predisposed towards "eye for an eye". To us, this is the only morality that exists (more or less) because we're evolutionally wired to be this way. As a rational slashdotter I'm sure you can agree with scientific evidence.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

digitig (1056110) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200345)

Oh yes, as a rational slashdotter I certainly agree with the evidence that some people believe things should be like that (and that some people don't). But science is of little help in deciding whether things should actually be like that. Both positions seem to have much the same epistemological status as religion. (I wasn't actually stating the contrary position because I necessarily hold it, just to show the flaws in the argument for the original position.)

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200965)

Strictly speaking, wouldn't you have to turn to religion in order to find an answer to human morality that isn't defined by the workings of humans themselves?

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200423)

Why do your preferences have any relevance when you're not the victim?

Thanks for restating my point. It's settled I guess? The victim gets to decide retribution or forgiveness. Not you or me.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

digitig (1056110) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200509)

So in the case of murder, no punishment is required because the victim no longer exists to decide retribution or forgiveness. Oh, wait: perhaps the family of the murdered person are also affected? And all of society, by having the killer at large, and by other potential killers knowing that killers go unpunished? Aren't those things true of torture too, and other crimes? Hmm, looks to me as if your approach is too simplistic, and that justice might not simply be a matter of retribution or forgiveness...

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200541)

So in the case of murder, no punishment is required because the victim no longer exists to decide retribution or forgiveness.

The right for retribution is still part of the victim's estate and as such goes to their beneficiaries or to their family, if no family exists, anyone else can claim it. In other words, if you kill a homeless guy without any family, and I made the first claim on his right of retribution, it's mine to do with as I please. Is it perfect? No. But demanding perfection would be a little "too simplistic".

Re:Sweden in general (0)

MechaStreisand (585905) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200169)

Why should someone who does that deserve that chance? Reserve that for people who haven't ruined the lives of others. I hope someone murders you and makes the world a better place.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200279)

Reform is the goal, and would be the greatest possible victory for society.

Why? What victory does society get from reaching that goal?

Re:Sweden in general (3, Informative)

teg (97890) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199513)

This is completely unrelated.. and this guys is obviously panicking, Sweden is very soft even to real criminals, they might be even softer then their neighbor Norway (where a man executed 77 children and only got max of 21 years in a comfy prison cell with a laptop and TV). The prison there is more like a rehab.

The 21 year sentence is subject to extension [wikipedia.org] if he is considered a danger to society. He's never going to get out. He might deserve anything [wikipedia.org] , but we like to think we have progressed somewhat.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

misexistentialist (1537887) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199821)

Torture and indefinite sentences are actually pretty similar. In both cases they have about the same legal legitimacy as shooting people randomly. Anders Breivik, Knight Templar, Defender of the Faith, and Provisional High Judge and Executioner of the Kingdom of Norway has a nice ring to it. [Uh-oh, I think I just got on the potential bomb-maker watch-list]

Re:Sweden in general (2)

sco08y (615665) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199887)

This is completely unrelated.. and this guys is obviously panicking, Sweden is very soft even to real criminals, they might be even softer then their neighbor Norway (where a man executed 77 children and only got max of 21 years in a comfy prison cell with a laptop and TV). The prison there is more like a rehab.

The 21 year sentence is subject to extension [wikipedia.org] if he is considered a danger to society. He's never going to get out. He might deserve anything [wikipedia.org] , but we like to think we have progressed somewhat.

So you're sentencing him to death by bureaucracy? How is this progress?

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Trepidity (597) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200135)

Forvaring is more or less equivalent to life in prison with possibility of parole. It's not a particularly hard to understand sentence, and imo it makes sense, since it allows for decisions to be made based on whether someone is still a danger to society or not.

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Kjella (173770) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200467)

He might deserve anything, but we like to think we have progressed somewhat.

More like we're delayed, if the new penalty code that's 12 years delayed due to lack of computer systems to handle it (government bureaucracy, yay) was implemented he'd at least have gotten 30 years for terrorism. They can say what they want about "in practice", but in theory he could be back on the streets in 10 years if he pulls a total reformation.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199507)

Coincidence. I don't think Mr. Warg (great name btw) raped anyone. People, try not to rape your groupies, m'kay?

Re:Sweden in general (1)

Teun (17872) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199575)

Maybe it's a function of the perceived freedom and independence Sweden was associated with for so many years.

People were under the impression they were allowed to do things that were harder in other places.

Re:Sweden in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199961)

Freedom and independence? You've never lived in Sweden, have you? It may be egalitarian and free men gud nåde dig if you do something that actually irks the authorities - Sweden is an efficient state and that efficiency can of course be applied to any endeavour.

He's now experiencing violation of his pirate bay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199315)

only this time it's his own pirate bay... from this point forward he will now be called Gottfrigid

I'm selling t-shirts to support him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199327)

They have "Free Wang" printed on them, though, as there was a miscommunication with the shirt maker.

Re:I'm selling t-shirts to support him (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199379)

Both are cocks so either way the t-shirts are still valid.

A good thing for global warming (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199329)

Maybe the US will use the same plane for Anakata and Assange.

but still:

      I'M A CAMBODIAN
      SON OF A BITCH AMERICAN
      AMERICAN IS PIG
      DO YOU WANT A HAMBURGER?
      DO YOU WANT A PIZZA?
      AMERICAN IS PIG DISGUSTING
      GEORGE WALKER BUSH IS A MURDERER
      FUCKING U.S.A
       

Re:A good thing for global warming (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199341)

Is she illin in the panicillin?
Is she chillin in the panicillin?
Is she stealin in the panicillin?
Is she feelin in the panicillin?

Panka panka

Is she liable no suitifiable pliable style is so suitifiable
Is she liable no suitifiable im not on trial but its suitifiable
Is she reliable no suitifiable not just viable but real suitifiable
Is she try-able no suitifiable lying in the aisle im real suitifiable

Is she spillin in the panicillin?
Is she squealin in the panicillin?
Is she feelin in the panicillin?
Is she trillin in the panicillin?

Panka panka

Is it libel? no suitifiable pliable style is so suitifiable
Is it a style? no suitifiable im not on trial but its suitifiable
Is it a mile? no suitifiable not just viable but real suitifiable
Is it wild? no suitifiable lying in the aisle im real suitifiable

Echos of assange. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199345)

Only this time the guy didn't just piss off goverments. he pissed off the media companies that own the goverments!
For all the countries that are americas bitch. America is the bitch of the media mafia.

He's so screwed. :|

Re:Echos of assange. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199375)

Other countries are the bitch of the MPAA, etc. without the the USA as a proxy. They don't need the USA's government help.

Re:Echos of assange. (1)

kiep (1821612) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199385)

bankers own the media, bankers own the governments, bankers own the corporations, what is the difference who do you piss off?

Prison for copyright violations (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199387)

Time to shoot back? Or is self defense still frowned upon?

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199475)

In Sweden, self defense is a good way to end up in prison.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (1)

mapkinase (958129) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199541)

As well as in many "civilized" countries of the West, where law enforcement is more concerned by not harming somebody than by going after people that actually harm other people.

Law enforcement is a sword, not a butter knife. You don't use sword to spread cream cheese on your slice of chiabata.

When a criminal is killed during criminal action, you, law enforcement should say, Alhamduli Allah, and wash your hands of any activities against the intended victim of such action.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (2)

ultranova (717540) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200101)

When a criminal is killed during criminal action, you, law enforcement should say, Alhamduli Allah, and wash your hands of any activities against the intended victim of such action.

Frankly, Sweden and Norway seem better places to live than those where people praise their God whenever someone they don't like gets killed and the police "wash their hands" from investigating anything they don't feel like.

Also, do you really want to draw the attention of the kind of god that would find this sort of praise desirable - or the kind who didn't but just got it anyway?

Re:Prison for copyright violations (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200059)

Yeah, no. Sweden actually has very liberal self defense laws. It even has provisions for using too much force than neccesary if it can be assumed that the situation was such that a normal person could be expected not to have self-control.
 
Now, being caught owning an unlicensed firearm, that's a different matter.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200167)

In Sweden, self defense is a good way to end up in prison.

You're talking about Great Britain here.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199493)

Make that "prison for allegedly facilitating copyright violations". In other words, in Sweden one may be convicted of facilitating a crime that isn't proven to have actually taken place. Also, pointing someone in the direction of another person that may (or may not) be willing to violate copyrights, is a serious crime.

What's the going rate for a Swedish prosecutor these days? Or does one have to buy a politician to secure a conviction?

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199731)

Sweden is a Democracy. If they don't like the law change it.

The U.S. is a Democratic Republic, if you don't like the copyright law change it.

As far as Americans go, being one, I know they are so lazy they will bitch about something like Copyright for ever and never get off their asses to change it. They won't run for Congress, they won't donate real working hours to support a candidate who will change it, and they won't run for office themselves. We really are a nation of freeloaders.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199751)

They won't run for Congress

That sounds extremely viable for the average person!

they won't donate real working hours to support a candidate who will change it

They'll have to get everyone else on board if they want anything changed. Considering how ignorant of technology most people are, that will take a long, long time.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199769)

It's cute that you think the US ever belonged to the people. If voting could really change things, they would have made it illegal by now.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200395)

Sorry, bub. when the majority votes away our rights, alternative methods must be used. Copyright is a privilege, and the majority is protecting the abusers of that privilege.

Re:Prison for copyright violations (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200453)

Sweden is a Democracy. If they don't like the law change it.

The U.S. is a Democratic Republic, if you don't like the copyright law change it.

I think that part of the problem here is that neither the Swedish government nor the U.S. government followed the laws of their own countries in this case. What is the use of changing the law if the government doesn't have to follow it?

I hope they cane him. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199447)

And he gets the AIDS rape in prison.

Honeypot (1)

fa2k (881632) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199457)

So can we assume that TPB including the new VPN service is a honeypot now?

Re:Honeypot (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199467)

no, just his arse in prison.

pointless links (4, Insightful)

alphatel (1450715) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199487)

On a related note, the domain freeanakata.... seems to have been registered today although it currently isn't resolving."

Linking to a domain that any goon could have registered for profit is somewhere between spammy and stupid.

Re:pointless links (5, Informative)

mikael_j (106439) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199623)

I'm the one who registered the domain. I have no intent on profiting from it, just thought of all the old "Free Kevin" websites when I heard about the arrest and registered the domain. I'm currently gathering URLs to different reports on the arrest and putting them on the site.

Re:pointless links (2, Insightful)

b4dc0d3r (1268512) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200089)

The story doesn't read like AC submitter knew anything about you, which makes it still a bad idea. And your assurances to the contrary, at this point in time I don't know you, nor does it feel any less in the range of spammy to stupid to do so.

And if you submitted the story anonymously to give an "I don't know anything about this website but it's here in case you're interested later" feel to it, I actually feel dirty replying. Good luck with all of that.

Re:pointless links (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41201029)

Stop being lawful neutral you strange little person or go back to SA. This is Slashdot.

Re:pointless links (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41201125)

Yeah, you'll just put ads on it for "server costs". People like you are capitalist scum of the earth.

Next time try Taliban or Al-Shabaab controlled (2)

mapkinase (958129) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199505)

Next time try Taliban or Al-Shabaab controlled territory. The rest of the world is bent over to their American overlords.

Failed to Appear (4, Funny)

Riddler Sensei (979333) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199521)

...failed to appear at the prison to serve his sentence.

This bit got me to chuckle.

"You said you were going to beeeeee there!"

Re:Failed to Appear (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199781)

His lawyer produced a medical note stating that he was ill an unable to attend the hearing, but then lost contract and could not produce further notes to say he was unavailable for jail. Presumably if he ever were deported back to Sweden he could start an appeal based on his inability to attend and thus defend himself in court.

Re:Failed to Appear (2)

Shihar (153932) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200303)

The charge is stupid, but you kind of have to be a dumb ass to run from 1 year of prison in Sweden. Sweden is not exactly known for their harsh prisons, and a year in jail sounds a lot better than being forever on the run.

Re:Failed to Appear (2)

Mathinker (909784) | about a year and a half ago | (#41200761)

> and a year in jail sounds a lot better than being forever on the run.

It's not clear to me that with a $1.1M judgment against him, the Swedish authorities would ever let him leave the country again.

I KNEW HE WAS A FUCKIN COMMIE !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199577)

Let's wake up Pol Pot and tell him this guy called his sister a hoe !!

From the cable: (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199589)

1. (SBU) Summary. Embassy Stockholm recommends that Sweden continues to be placed in the Special 301 Initiative, and not be on the Watch List for 2009. We are aware of the differing recommendations of the International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) and PhRMA. Post recommendation is based on:...

...The sensitive domestic politics that the GOS needs to manage in order to step up internet piracy enforcement in Sweden....

Sickening.. and more so that no government will stand up and tell the Americans to piss off.

Don't kill the messenger [wikileaks.org] .. On the contrary, they need our assistance.

Can't blame a man for going to cambodia (0)

unix_core (943019) | about a year and a half ago | (#41199689)

Can't blame this guy for making sure he lost his virginity _outside_ of the prison ;)

Wouldn't happen in America today if... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199699)

The Republicans have been trying to block Obama's every attempt at brining civil liberties back to the man on the street. They don't want to see this. They want their women in the kitchen, bare foot and pregnant. They want blacks back in chains. They want Latinos sent back to Mexico. They want Muslims to be put in concentration camps with no regard to their Constitutional rights. Every step Obama takes towards freedom and liberty the Republicans beat him back.
 
Obama/Biden 2012!

Re:Wouldn't happen in America today if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41199865)

Obama isn't doing much to restore our liberties. He is at best, neutral on that subject. His only advantage is that he isn't advocating fucktarded class warfare economic policies that will rapidly destroy America like the conservatives are.

Re:Wouldn't happen in America today if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200533)

Who gave Joe Biden an account here?

Slashdot... Is it a crime? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200479)

If I make up t-shirts with links to popular torrents, would this be considered illegal?

This guy is a pussy and an idiot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200783)

First, let me say that I think sending people to prison for stuff like copyright infringement
is stupid and over the top. But I don't make the rules, and the people who do are sending
people to prison and that is just reality.

And it is ALWAYS better to deal with reality rather than attempt to ignore it.

I've done prison time ( in the US ) .

A year is nothing. As the saying in prison goes : "you can do a year standing on your head".

Swedish prisons are among the very nicest in the world and there is probably no
easier place to do time.

It would have been smarter for the guy to just go ahead and do the time and get it behind
him. Now the authorities are going to make extra efforts to "make an example of him" as
all authorities in every country will do. And so it will escalate from a year to more and worse.
And that is why the guy should have taken his lumps and been done with it instead of absconding.

.

Re:This guy is a pussy and an idiot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41200907)

You're just rationalizing in order to feel better about your prison experience. He obviously did the correct thing when fleeing the country - remember that he's got a huge debt on his head as well as the prison sentence. When I heard about him fleeing and considered wether I'd have done the same the first thing I thought about was whether a free life in Cambodia would be an improvement over Swedish prisons.

Re:This guy is a pussy and an idiot. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41201127)

You're just rationalizing in order to feel better about your prison experience.

That is so extremely presumptuous that it is comical. You don't know me, and you have no idea
what my experience was like. I came out of prison a better person, and though it was a tough experience
at times I now realize that it probably was good for me, as strange as that might seem. So thanks for your
idiotic opinion, but I don't "need to feel better" about my experience. I have moved on. By the way, one thing
you obviously haven't learned yet is that it is unwise to talk shit to people you don't know. Perhaps when you
grow up you can do that.

What I know is, if the authorities are going to come after you, and you had a short sentence to
begin with, it is more intelligent to face the music than to run.

Unlike you, I am not talking bullshit based on nothing but an uninformed opinion, I speak from experience.

We see how much good your strategy of running did for the guy from Sweden, don't we. What other subjects
are you going to pretend to be expert on when in reality you don't know anything about them ?

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