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Google Pulls Access To Unsupported But Popular Weather API

Unknown Lamer posted about a year and a half ago | from the we-did-it-because-we-love-you dept.

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New submitter drsmack1 writes with news of some bummed out programmers losing access to an undocumented Google API. From the article: "The curious popularity of the Google Weather API appears to be coming to a close. The search giant never officially supported the feature, but developers have used the unofficial feed available from the iGoogle homepage. With iGoogle now set for deprecation in November, developers are reporting that the once simple weather API is no longer returning data." Seems like the sort of thing you could replace with a tiny bit of XSLT.

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Gay (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218127)

Just goes to show what happens when you let a bunch of faggots run your tech company.

Re:Gay (-1, Flamebait)

silentbluejay (2721217) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218311)

Just goes to show what happens when you let a bunch of Jews run your tech company.

FTFY.

Re:Gay (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219345)

Better than a nigger run compa- oh wait, those darkie porch monkeys don't have the brain power to do business, so I can't tell if it would be better or worse than the jews. The only enterprise a jungle-bunny welfare leach could throw his spear at would be dealing crack.

Any alternative? (1)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218133)

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance !

Re:Any alternative? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218161)

Sure, look it up on Google Code Search.

Re:Any alternative? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218211)

Sure: http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/

Re:Any alternative? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218377)

If you can trust the global warming fanatic that runs weather underground. I thought the name was a joke till I saw a blog post by him that showed he is not wholly a scientist but a true believer.

weather channel hasn't yet got it's shit together after being run by a bunch of frightwing religious assholes. Yea the assholes are gone but not enough of what is left has been bled white enough to make their stockholders decapitate them and fix things. They are trying but fuck are they slow.
accuweather tried to get their bought stooge senate whore to block access to publicly funded weather data to all but 'authorized weather professionals'

A better source is NOAA you paid for it and they are very friendly to the foss community. They have a LOT of ways to access the data.

Re:Any alternative? (4, Informative)

cynyr (703126) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218473)

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=44.89640&lon=-93.61164939999998&unit=0&lg=english&FcstType=dwml [weather.gov] an XML link as an example.

You can get it as KML as well whatever that is.

Re:Any alternative? (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218505)

Now I just need somebody to patch the Weather Globe Google Gadget to use the direct NOAA feeds instead of the now-nuked iGoogle feed. Google had no problem using their own undocumented API. And of course the gadget is also unsupported now that Google Desktop has been killed, but you can pry my Google Desktop from my cold dead circuits.

I could patch it myself, but this is not a good time. At all.

Re:Any alternative? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219403)

Google Desktop gadgets are simply packaged as zip files. Unzip the weather globe gadget package, update the code in the .js files, repackage, and run it. I'm not sure where the gadget package files are stored, but they must be on the drive somewhere.

Re:Any alternative? (1)

afidel (530433) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219651)

Does the NOAA feed support worldwide forecasts or only US ones? I know my weather gadget broke last week and the developer said he'd fix it when he returned from holiday so I expect he's europen and hence would want a worldwide feed source.

Re:Any alternative? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218479)

Beliving in global warming doesn't automatically make you a "fanatic." Stop being an asshole.

Re:Any alternative? (0)

cheater512 (783349) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219723)

Depends how you say it actually.

If its along the lines of "I now see the light! Global warming is real and we must repent or otherwise our sins^H^H^H^HCO2 will strangle us all!" then yes they are a fanatic.

Re:Any alternative? (4, Insightful)

Randle_Revar (229304) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219951)

Well, global warming is real, and we are fucked already, it is just a matter of how fucked we want to be, just somewhat, or really hard. Given how much is happening even in countries not as backwards as the US, I guess we want to be really fucked.

Re:Any alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218509)

Weather Underground is very reliable. The name is basicaly a j

Re:Any alternative? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218521)

Who the fuck modded this "interesting"? This post is shit.

Re:Any alternative? (2)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219057)

If you can trust the global warming fanatic that runs weather underground.

Hmm... Seems you are right:

"Temperature right now: 75 degrees. Forecast for tomorrow: 500 DEGREES! Wear a life vest, because the ice caps are gonna melt! Timber wolves are going to be hunting you because of atmospheric flash freezing! WATCH DAY AFTER TOMORROW SHEEPLE!!!! "

How much trust do you need to put into the weather forecast? If it's off by a few degrees, well, it's not rocket science anyway.

Re:Any alternative? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219513)

Are you saying that the weather data supplied from thousands of user across the world to Weather Underground is suspect because the whomever runs the site accepts the science behind anthropogenic climate change? How does that NOT make you the fanatic?

Re:Any alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219989)

And I thought I had issues.

Re:Any alternative? (2)

betterprimate (2679747) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218755)

Another alternative: http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/ [yahoo.com]

Re:Any alternative? (1)

jmauro (32523) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218945)

Be warned though. Since Yahoo's weather products have been taken over by the Weather Channel this API has had a number of errors like having dead internal links and missing data.

Re:Any alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219099)

... the weather channel != the national weather service...

Re:Any alternative? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219133)

The weather channel may become ok. Currently they're still suffering from the frightwing management choices made and the current owners are slowly trying to mitigate those choices. I'm sure it's because continuing revenue outweighs heads on pikes at this juncture. I do hope that they do pike at least one frightwing asshole but most likely they'll deescalate their importance till they can let them go without excessive pain.

Re:Any alternative? (1)

_Shad0w_ (127912) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219591)

The Met Office (UK's erm, met office) has an API available, it's very UK-centric though.

XSLT predicts the weather! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218177)

Why didn't I think of that!

Re:XSLT predicts the weather! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218791)

XSLT....is there anything it can't do?

Re:XSLT predicts the weather! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219269)

Being small, or even tiny.

I wish Google would have warned us... (2, Interesting)

puterguy (642044) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218219)

Even though the API was admittedly unsupported it was a core part of iGoogle and was used by many people as part of embedded scripts. While Google has admirably given a nice long notice for terminating iGoogle, it would have been nice had Google given at least a wee bit of warning of its abrupt termination of the weather API. Even its termination was not clear since the returned error page was an old page dated 2009 that seemed to imply that the user had done something wrong. It wasn't until I saw others encountering the same problem that I realized the problem was not on my mind, resulting in a fair bit of wasted debugging and head scratching on my end.

Is it asking too much of a company whose motto is "Don't be evil" to have given a week or two of warning or at least to have spent a minute or two setting up a meaningful and informative error page? Come on Google, you can do better...

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (5, Insightful)

Zapotek (1032314) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218293)

Going the extra mile and notifying the users would have undoubtedly made a good impression but this situation resembles someone grepping a website for QOTDs and then complaining that his regexp no longer works because the site's HTML code changed or the quotes were removed altogether. Bottom line is, tough luck. When something is not supported then it's not supported, how much clearer can you get?

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218373)

a company whose motto is "Don't be evil"

It's so cute that left-wingers still say that and believe it. Like if right-wingers were stupid enough to go around repeating Fox New's tagline.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (4, Insightful)

exomondo (1725132) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218427)

Is it asking too much of a company whose motto is "Don't be evil" to have given a week or two of warning or at least to have spent a minute or two setting up a meaningful and informative error page? Come on Google, you can do better...

And if it were a supported API it would have that, but it's pretty clearly not a supported API.

Why isn't there a supported API? (1)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220707)

I think the question is, or should be, why isn't there a supported API?

Given the plethora of weather apps, widgets, etc. that are highly popular on Android (and iOS, for that matter, but widgets.. Android), it seems to be like offering a weather API with cached results (similar to the location API) so that each and every app isn't requesting its own data from its own datasources, sucking up resources and running up data bills for some users would be a good thing.

Hell - let some enterprising App developer get on that. I'd guess the Intents bits could be of some use there. Plenty of developers cooperate on other fronts - why not weather?

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (1)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218485)

my iGoogle page has been my default homepage for at least 8 years, now... sh*t.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (0)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219325)

Wow, your default homepage for over 8 years has been one that only existed for 7 1/2 years? May 2005 + 8 years = May 2013, not "some time before September 2012"

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219673)

Fagget fight!

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218525)

You think Google should be obliged to warn you before shutting down their FREE, unofficial, undocumented, unsupported weather API? The one they provided at ABSOLUTELY NO COST TO YOU, that weather API? Wow, that is some massive sense of self-entitlement you got there, bud.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (4, Insightful)

progician (2451300) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220781)

And don't you think that the whole "self-entitlement" thing is getting overused?

You see, things that are free are still things that people do use and therefore it is an issue if the service is gone. If the gmail would be gone tomorrow for good without any warning, would you still repeat the same mantra? It is for free after all... except that a good portion of the business world relies on it beyond the personal "freerider" usage. Just because one runs a free service doesn't mean that one isn't responsible for the service.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (0)

progician (2451300) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220793)

FYI, I don't think turning off this service is that important I've just found your argument invalid, a cliché and utterly ridiculous.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218751)

Can you point me to the weather API page where they could announce that it was closing?
If there's no page, where would they announce it?

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (4, Interesting)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219083)

I've seen some ridiculous suggestions that Google has ignored it's motto, but this is the most ridiculous one I can remember at the moment.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (4, Insightful)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219309)

that seemed to imply that the user had done something wrong

You did do something wrong. You used an unsupported API.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (1, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220049)

that seemed to imply that the user had done something wrong

You did do something wrong. You used an unsupported API.

no.. the wrong thing was to use a google api in the first place. it's totally random how they shut things down or roll them up - unsupported or not, this particular api had a pretty good run.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219503)

This kind of data got really expensive recently. I was working on a browser plugin for weather forecasting and the rug got pulled out from under me when all the providers started charging a hefty chunk of change for access to their feeds. I'm not sure where google gets their data, but I'm sure it's from one of these guys.

Re:I wish Google would have warned us... (2)

flyingfsck (986395) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219771)

Use the government services. They are free and are where the pay services get their data from, e.g. NOAA or MET - every country has one and you as a tax payer, already pay for it.

XSLT as a substitute for google's API (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218245)

Reminds me of the punchline of the Steve Martin joke "How to become a millionaire and not pay taxes":

First, make a million dollars. Then, tell the IRS you forgot.

What is the point? (-1, Troll)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218275)

Why write anything for/on Google if they're just going to pull it? Why is anybody giving them any support at all? Well, I suppose some people are making a quick buck, and I suppose they already know that long term service is just not an option. Eh... maybe it isn't so bad after all. The folks at Google are certainly not losing any sleep over it.

Few things seem more fickle than a web app, if that is what you can call this. I sure hope everybody is backing up the crap they keep in 'the cloud'.

Re:What is the point? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218319)

Which part of "unsupported" did you not get?

Re:What is the point? (-1, Troll)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218343)

If they hold a copyright/patent on it, then they should be compelled to license it to keep that copyright protection, or it should released into the public domain.

Re:What is the point? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218383)

They don't...

It was just Google's way of getting weather data on iGoogle. Other people realized they could use this too, to get free weather data for their own programs/websites and used it.

Re:What is the point? (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218439)

If they hold a copyright/patent on it, then they should be compelled to license it to keep that copyright protection, or it should released into the public domain.

And do they in this case? No. So what's your point?

Re:What is the point? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218489)

Well goody for them... My point remains, don't look to Google for long term anything.

And to keep the fanbois with their mod points off my back, I'll post this anonymously, they'll have to go another thread to play their petty games. Fuck them.

Re:What is the point? (2)

exomondo (1725132) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218721)

Well goody for them...

Why?

My point remains, don't look to Google for long term anything.

The more pertinent point would be 'don't use unsupported APIs regardless of who provides them'.

Re:What is the point? (2)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219373)

My point remains, don't look to Google for long term anything.

Don't look to any service with no service level agreement for long term anything. If you absolutely must have long term support, don't use anything from anyone that doesn't explicitly offer long term support.

Re:What is the point? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218583)

Since other people were using it and they didn't block other people from using it, an easement [wikipedia.org] was created. They are now legally obligated to continue providing their weather API.

I wasn't affected, but I am a lawyer. If you were affected, contact me as I am looking into a class action lawsuit.

Re:What is the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218747)

I admire your mastery of law through Wikipedia. This is an extremely relevant article.

As the president of US of A I get weather reports directly from NOAA when I need them, but I agree that it's your citizen's and lawyer's duty to sue everyone for reasons disconnected from reality.

Re:What is the point? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218777)

I'm not sure an API will fall under the umbrella of "real property".

Consider this. You project the image of a clock onto the front of your house. You don't block other people from using it. Are you then legally obligated to keep it going?

Re:What is the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218859)

No need to consider anything. If it worked like that, then removing any published webpage from your server would be actionable.

6/10 Not very elaborate troll, but bonus point for educational link.

Re:What is the point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219691)

He didn't even leave his contact information, you dumb gaffet.

Re:What is the point? (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219407)

As soon as real estate law is redefined to include internet services, I'll hire you. Until then, easements do not cover the internet.

Re:What is the point? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218613)

Which part of "don't be evil" did you not get?

Re:What is the point? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218973)

Which part of silently dropping undocumented and unsupported service is "being evil"? Now if the motto was "Be nice" that'd be something to expect and it would be on par with "Dear trespassers! Please note that you will have to find another shortcut as I'm fixing this hole in the fence next week. I apologize for inconvenience".

There's difference between deprecated andundocumented.

Re:What is the point? (1)

webnut77 (1326189) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218605)

I sure hope everybody is backing up the crap they keep in 'the cloud'.

So that would be, er.. , ah.. , iCrap?

Usupported interfaces? (3, Interesting)

drolli (522659) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218349)

why would anybody use these?

Re:Usupported interfaces? (3, Insightful)

siddesu (698447) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219153)

Because somebody could not be bothered to read the interface definitions, or they were unavailable, or too hard/cumbersome to work with at the time, etc. Do you always write your throwaway scripts to an official, certified specification, never taking a shortcut? Have you never been in a situation where a throwaway script becomes a perpetual part of a system?

Besides, what is the guarantee that if you code to the exact specs, things will work any better, or that the other free service will be any more reliable or long-lived?

Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (5, Insightful)

ducomputergeek (595742) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218365)

And then complaining when said API disappears? For the US at least NOAA offers a pretty nice REST/XML API that's free and even comes with icons you can link to if building a webpage or app.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (5, Interesting)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41218781)

Well, yeah, there are plenty of alternatives. Just now I went to my igoogle page to see if the weather widget was still working. It was — because I use the NOAA widget, not Google's own widget.

But you know, my igoogle page is going away in about a year. I can certainly live without it (I don't really need to a weather report and the Wikipedia Picture of the Day every time I open a browser tab, and now my daily agenda is also on my phone) but it's part of a trend that I'm really getting tired of. They invent some clever new application, then they get bored with it and pull it. They publish an intriguing new API, then they get bored with it and shut it off. The acquire some interesting new company, get bored with it and shut it down. And so on, over and over. Once or twice is a minor nuisance, but they do it constantly.

Even when they stick with an application for the long haul, they take forever to get it out of beta mode, they tend to skimp on the boring little details that make for mature software (I mean you, Postini! And you Android Emulator!), and they never get round to providing proper documentation or tech support.

I've said it before: I love Google for their creativity and their striving to create lots of cool products. But I wish to fuck they'd grow up already.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (1)

cawpin (875453) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219109)

Well, yeah, there are plenty of alternatives. Just now I went to my igoogle page to see if the weather widget was still working. It was — because I use the NOAA widget, not Google's own widget.

Google's widget is still working just fine for me.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219143)

Honest question: how much would it cost them to keep it running? Is this a case of "All these interns driving out across the US and reading thermometers and phoning them in is costing a boatload of money in terms of gas, and we never put ads in it so we're not making anything" or is it more "That server is running the weather service, but we could put a foosball table there..."

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (2)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219363)

I very much doubt that money is an issue. Google is absurdly profitable, gets more profitable year by year, and their ownership is structured so that they don't have to account for the way the spend their money.

But if they maintain a product, somebody has to be responsible for it. If nobody wants to spend the time to keep the product alive then the product dies. And that happens a lot at google, because the only criterion for holding down a job there is being very smart and creative. You get kudos for inventing a clever new API, but your job doesn't depend on your doing the boring work needed to keep the API alive.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41220629)

I very much doubt that money is an issue. Google is absurdly profitable, gets more profitable year by year, and their ownership is structured so that they don't have to account for the way the spend their money.

What do you mean by "their ownership is structured so that they don't have to account for the way the spend their money"? I'm genuinely curious and haven't heard this before.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41220923)

I too wish to know more. I'd do my own research, but I'm not sure where to begin googling.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219435)

Honest answer: Your question is irrelevant. If they never, ever stated they would continue to provide a service, you should never, ever expect to be continually provided. Especially when they only reason for its existence is to support a product that has already been discontinued.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (2)

bickerdyke (670000) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220565)

I think it's more along the lines of: Hey, remember the weather data feed we subscribed to so we could show the weather on iGoogle? I don't think we need to pay for that subscription anymore after we've shut dow iGoogle.

2 problems (1)

bobs666 (146801) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219789)

If its free is it a product?

I do not know what growing up has to do with it?

Google gives away a lot of stuff fro free. ok, so Richard Stall man might not call it free, but we do not pay for lots of Google stuff. But a lot of other corporations are attacking Google so It seems to me to pull back to basics is a reasonable respounce, BTW you can get the weather data from other sources.

Re:2 problems (0)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219879)

If its free is it a product?

It's a free product.

I do not know what growing up has to do with it?

Part of growing up is learning that sometimes things you're responsible for take priority over things you want to do.

Re:2 problems (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220039)

Part of growing up is learning that sometimes things you're responsible for take priority over things you want to do.

In this particular case, Google has never taken responsibility for supporting the API. What does that mean if they want to cancel it?

Re:2 problems (-1, Troll)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220203)

Read my posts a little more carefully. My statement about immaturity was not aimed at their abandoning a particular product. It was about their pattern of not doing the boring stuff they need to do to make their products sustainable.

Re:2 problems (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220363)

Well, agreed on that.
Their policy seems to be to just throw anything they can imagine on their site and see what sticks.
Seems like a terrible waste of resources to me, but apparently it works.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (1)

Nemyst (1383049) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219881)

Oh they've grown up alright. In their early days, they tended to do a lot of nifty things and leave them up. It's only fairly recently that they started pruning systems, APIs and services. Why? Because they don't give them a return on their investment.

I like Google, but I realize that they're in there for the money, just like every other corporation out there. If a service is only draining cash, it's not worth keeping up from a business standpoint. iGoogle's nice for its users, but it was isolated from the rest of the Google ecosystem (the widget system isn't really used anywhere else, it doesn't work with Google+, etc.) and didn't pull ad revenue. You could find similar reasoning for most products Google killed. Those that are still around are the successful, profit-making ones.

I'll still miss iGoogle because I like having a single page that shows my agenda, my RSS reader and my emails, but I can understand why it's being retired.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220187)

Why? Because they don't give them a return on their investment.

As I understand it, few Google businesses make much money. All the ones that are profitable are the ones where they've managed to stick in those minimalistic context-sensitive ads they're famous for. Those are extremely profitable, and subsidize the rest of the company.

Anything that resembles traditional services businesses is a disaster. Their spam-filtering business is almost nonfunctional. (I speak from personal experience.) Their cloud application initiative is pretty much stalled. Their code hosting services are pretty poor, and can't possibly be a profit center in any case. And so on,

If a service is only draining cash, it's not worth keeping up from a business standpoint.

That's just a little simplistic. Yes, products disappear quickly when they're generating more losses than a company wants to sustain. But when an unprofitable product has potential to help the company grab market share, provide synergy with other products, and eventually develop into a profit center itself, it makes sense to bear the loss — if the company can afford it. And Google most definitely doesn't have cash flow issues.

iGoogle's nice for its users, but it was isolated from the rest of the Google ecosystem (the widget system isn't really used anywhere else, it doesn't work with Google+, etc.)

OK, that's a really good point, and one that should have occurred to me. Ecosystems are important. And it especially matters that Google+ is what Google wants us to hear about these days. iGoogle dates back to everybody had to have a portal; Google+ represents the current belief in social media. And as you say, the two don't go together.

Some of the emphasis on Google+ is not to my liking. My Google Profile used to have a simple, easy-to-remember URL (google.com/profiles/isaac32767, I think). But profiles with names don't work with Google+, so now my profile is at google.com/profiles/111202763901896476985 . Lame. Fortunately, I managed to grab bit.ly/isaacplus.

and didn't pull ad revenue

Nor does Google+. At least, I don't see any ads when I go there. It's clearly a long-term project. See above re unprofitable products with potential.

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (2)

bickerdyke (670000) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220625)

IIRC the gadget markup for Google+ hangout apps is identical to the iGoogle gadgets markup. (Only includes other APIs)

Re:Wait, you're using an unsupported API... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41220771)

My God! It's almost as if Google are in the habit of closing unprofitable departments and re-deploying the now free resources to more profitable areas. Like some...some kind of business! The bastards!

2013 (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218419)

With iGoogle now set for deprecation in November

That's November 2013.

Unfortunately Obama Rules .. Least Til Jan '13. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218421)

The Google API was and is a fine piece of code.

Except.

President Obama has a ... Problem ... with the Google Weather API.

The Google Weather API ... shall we say ... invalidates the Obama
mantra of AGW.

Therefore to appease the 'significant finance-ers' of the Obama Administration, Obama has now ordered the beheading of an insignificant finance-er, Google Inc.

Well well well.

Did Eric Schmidt not want to suck Obama's dick during the recent meeting at a Washington hotel?

Is Eric Schmidt now ... after all these years claiming to be a 'non-homosexual'?

Hardie Har Har.

Just the 'pud-n-pie' of Washington DC.

No problem ... Obama has no brain! His life is an entire ... menagerie ... a Mr. 'fantastic' menagerie.

LoL

Holly Shit Batman! 80

Re:Unfortunately Obama Rules .. Least Til Jan '13. (0)

mwvdlee (775178) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220047)

Thank god mr. Romney will be here to save the US from corporate ownership...

By the way; is that medicinal marihuana you're smoking paid for by Obamacare?

Sh17 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41218633)

The NetBSD project, troubled OS. Now OpenBSD guys. They where it was when S4ow that *BSD ha&s

Yep (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41219303)

Put your trust in Google, this is what happens. Told ya!

I've said it before and I'll say it again... (0)

Lord Kano (13027) | about a year and a half ago | (#41219963)

This is why Google+ failed. Google is quick to deprecate services that no one wants to put in the kind of time they now do on Facebook because it can all be snatched away at a whim.

LK

Re:I've said it before and I'll say it again... (2)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220121)

This is why Google+ failed.

Oh dear...can I live in your world, too? In mine we need to wait until a service closes it's doors to tell if it failed or not...on a more serious note, why do you consider a service with 250M accounts (150M of them active) as failed?

Re:I've said it before and I'll say it again... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41220383)

For the same reasons he considers all MMO's with less subscribers than WoW a failure I suspect, big numbers impress some people.

Microsoft use of this API exposed? (1, Interesting)

Gumbercules!! (1158841) | about a year and a half ago | (#41220261)

This would explain why every Windows 7 and yes, Windows 8 PC in this office, in Perth Western Australia, suddenly thinks it's snowing outside. It has *never* snowed in Perth. Like... never ever. It's actually about 20oC outside right now.

Does this mean Microsoft's desktop weather widgets for 7 and the weather charm for 8 have been using Google for their information??!? Come on, what is this? Bing (http://googleblog.blogspot.com.au/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html)?

Re:Microsoft use of this API exposed? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41221057)

Do you even try to research things on your own or just like to make up shit wearing that tin foil?

The desktop weather gadget uses msn services:
http://weather.service.msn.com/find.aspx?outputview=search&src=Windows7&weasearchstr=90210&weadegreetype=F&culture=en-US

Easily verified by watching traffic and changing your zip code

Re:Microsoft use of this API exposed? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41221183)

There has been snow in the Perth Hills in 1956, does that count?

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