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Raspberry Pi Revision 2.0 Board Announced

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the like-gangbusters'-hotcakes dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The Raspberry Pi finally saw a release on February 29 this year and is thought to have sold 200,000 units, with a million expected to ship before the year is over. That's a lot of tiny PCs, but it's also been an opportunity for owners to feedback any problems or tweaks they'd like made to the board. The Raspberry Pi Foundation has taken the feedback on board and today announced a revised design is being put into production. The new Raspberry Pi, known as revision 2.0 PCB, is expected to start shipping in the next few weeks. The revision includes a number of changes, but is essentially the same board. To summarize it includes a new reset circuit, a replacement for the reset fuses allowing for more reliable USB hub power, two GPIO pin changes for JTAG debug support, four redundant GPIO signals have been removed, and a new connector has been added for attaching a range of boards including a clock or audio codec. Two of the more easily noticeable changes include a fix that stops the HDMI connection interfering with certain operations of the Raspberry Pi, and the addition of two 2.5mm mounting holes to allow for easier mounting."

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What about development tools? (-1, Offtopic)

Mr. Wok (2723821) | about a year and a half ago | (#41247999)

Can you use this with Visual Studio? As I just love the newest VS.

Re:What about development tools? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248071)

Can you use this with Visual Studio? As I just love the newest VS.

I think your question should read: "Can Visual Studio work with open source compilers and tool chains dedicated to ARM via plugins or simple modification?"

The day we start altering our hardware to work with an IDE is the day I go home and put a bullet in my head.

Re:What about development tools? (5, Informative)

Desler (1608317) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248167)

Yes, it can. How do you think Intel's compiler integrates into Visual Studio? You just need to write the plugin for integration and make custom build rules.

Re:What about development tools? (2)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248145)

Can you use this with Visual Studio? As I just love the newest VS.

You can use Visual Studio to produce code that runs on the Pi, but not run Visual Studio on the Pi.

Re:What about development tools? (1)

KiloByte (825081) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250143)

qemu+wine are ----> over there. Although a hog like Visual Studio would take ages to even start.

Re:What about development tools? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249425)

Visual Studio = Microsoft, closed-source stuff and just plain evil with lawyers
Raspberry Pi = Linux, open-source stuff and just happiness with rainbows

Leave your nerd card at the door and never come back here.

Re:What about development tools? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249887)

New Account: Check
Microsoft Shilling: Check ...

And also it's now made in the UK (5, Informative)

Dave Whiteside (2055370) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248039)

In Wales by Sony to be exact
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1925 [raspberrypi.org]

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (4, Insightful)

pnot (96038) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248157)

In Wales by Sony to be exact
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1925 [raspberrypi.org]

Nice! That would have been a far more interesting headline than "RasPi gets mounting holes and minor bugfixes".

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

QuasiSteve (2042606) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248319)

Nice for some because, well, quality production lines so hopefully less of a problem with supply.

Horrible for others because, well, ZOMG BOYCOTT SONY.

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248611)

quality production lines

Aaaaahaaaahahaha! You need to have a serious talk with your dealer, dude.

because, well, ZOMG BOYCOTT SONY.

No. It's because, well, fool me once...

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

pnot (96038) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250773)

Nice for some because, well, quality production lines so hopefully less of a problem with supply. Horrible for others because, well, ZOMG BOYCOTT SONY.

Naah, it's even good for those people: they can find something to whine about withiout too much effort. Just think how disappointed they'd be if the board were being manufactured from fairtrade components and PCBs made of sustainably harvested pressed hemp, by a local co-operative which shelters kittens and supports the orphanage down the road.

Sure, there would be an outraged campaign against the fact that the hemp wasn't 100% certified organic, but it doesn't quite have the satisfying ring of ZOMG BOYCOTT SONY.

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248421)

Wheee!

I assume this is to test out the new hardware-based rootkit Sony's been working on? :-D

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249027)

That's a relief.

At least it isn't by Lucas Electronics [mez.co.uk]

Ewww (3, Funny)

DeathToBill (601486) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249155)

There's so much I love about this. Seeing British-designed products being produced in Britain. It just feels right. I love the educational aims of the RPi. I love the hacker culture around it. I love the ethical sourcing and the informal PR of the RPi foundation. It's all so good.

And then... it's produced by... Sony. Yuck.

Re:Ewww (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41251999)

At least its not semi vaporware/rip off like the pandora hand held. If you were a preorderer you had a 50% chance of either getting one, or them running with your money.

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

inglorion_on_the_net (1965514) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249247)

Yeah, I feel a bit dubious about that. I wasn't too excited about made in the UK in the first place (nothing wrong with capital flow to poorer countries in my book), but it's Sony, too. I really don't want to be putting money in Sony's pockets after the stunts they've pulled in the last decades.

Will there be an option to buy 2.0s by a specific manufacturer?

Re:And also it's now made in the UK (1)

WilliamBaughman (1312511) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250871)

I wonder if Microsoft is subsiding Sony's bid to make sure tech enthusiasts won't buy any? Or could the Raspberry Pi be okay because it doesn't have any lithium batteries or rely on any Sony-supplied software or media?

Raspberry PI!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248115)

Can I buy one with buttcoins?

Still Waiting... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248133)

So now that I ordered my Pi, paid for it, and have been waiting for months for it to even ship, they're improving it? Will those of us still waiting get the new board or what's left of the old versions?

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248199)

Welcome to tech, bitch.

:-)

Re:Still Waiting... (2)

ratbag (65209) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248467)

Whilst public moaning in completely unrelated forums may appear to be the best way to expedite delivery, talking to to RS or Farnell will probably yield better results. If you've been waiting months, and you really have paid, then something has gone wrong. I wasn't charged until despatch, and I received the board within eight weeks of first reserving it (not purchasing, reserving). Registered with Farnell/RS 2012-05-08, pre-ordered from Farnell 2012-06-13, despatched and invoiced 2012-07-17, arrived 2012-07-20.

Of course if you've already talked to the supplier, please disregard my missive. It's merely that every story about the Pi includes at least a couple of people complaining that they've been waiting months. In the early days supply was a problem, now less so.

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248689)

They charged me immediately and quoted a ship time of 11 weeks. They missed that deadline already.

Re:Still Waiting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248917)

Let me guess, you ordered from RS?

Re:Still Waiting... (2)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249011)

Yes. Never order from RS. The other vendor has them in stock but RS has held my money since June 29 and wants to ship in October. I consider that "tentative" Fsck them.

Re:Still Waiting... (2)

ctid (449118) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249255)

I cancelled my RS order on Tuesday morning and ordered from CPC (this was at 10:01am). I received my Pi at about 11am this morning. approximately 49 hours from order to delivery!

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248493)

I got mine two weeks after ordering from Newell or Newark or somesuch. They did tell me 8-10 wks so maybe I just got lucky.

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

Githaron (2462596) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249017)

I am also wanting for an order I made months ago. Maybe I should cancel it and order the new one.

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

inglorion_on_the_net (1965514) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249301)

I'm in the same situation you are in, but I am just happy they are improving the board in response to the feedback they received. And so quickly, too. I wish all hardware vendors did that.

I also really don't feel bad about not getting a free upgrade. I paid my $35 knowing full well that I was paying for an early version that would likely still have some kinks to be worked out. The wait is long, but they told me it would be.

I feel they are handling this well, and I really hope the Raspberry Pi becomes the roaring success it seems to be on its way to becoming.

Re:Still Waiting... (4, Interesting)

marcop (205587) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249389)

Order from Allied 2.5 months ago. After hearing about the USB and Ethernet reliability issues I decided to cancel (literally this morning). Bought the Rikomagic MK802II [rikomagic.co.uk] instead. I should get it in 2 weeks too.

Here's a side by side comparison of the MK802 vs the Rasp. Pi.

http://youtu.be/YKNPnBE-ouI [youtu.be]

From my understanding, the Pi still beats the MK802 on price and GPIO (addressed in the video).

Re:Still Waiting... (1)

mspohr (589790) | about a year and a half ago | (#41252005)

I ordered from Newark on 26 Aug and it was shipped (and charged) 5 Sept.
My order from Allied on 16 July is still in limbo (not charged and not shipped and no word from them) (I'll probably cancel it once I get my order from Newark).
So... it pays to shop around.

It's not truly open... (5, Insightful)

Dimwit (36756) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248183)

My problem with the Raspberry Pi is that it's not truly open - there's a binary bootloader and graphics driver, and the SoC is undocumented. If I wanted to write my own operating system from bootloader to windowing system, I'd have to do a lot of reverse engineering. That's kinda why I'd prefer the Beagle Board.

(Disasbuse me of this notion if I am wrong.)

Re:It's not truly open... (4, Informative)

tommeke100 (755660) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248261)

Check out this tutorial for OS development on the Pi : http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/ [cam.ac.uk]

Re:It's not truly open... (1)

robthebloke (1308483) | about a year and a half ago | (#41251029)

I think you completely missed the part about 'binary bootloader and graphics driver'. Yes you can write your own OS, but you still have to integrate that binary blob into your code somewhere. The GP is not complaining about his inability to write an OS for it, he's complaining about the fact the binary blob is closed. It's not something that bothers me all that much, but it's something that bothers the GP. Each to their own and all that....

Re:It's not truly open... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248345)

They got a sweetheart deal from Broadcom back when nobody else would talk to them because they all work there. That lets them sell the board for half of what a 'Bone costs. Now that RPi is world famous and selling hundreds of thousands of units they should find an open SoC.

Re:It's not truly open... (4, Insightful)

Dan Dankleton (1898312) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248427)

It's not completely open - but that was never the idea of it. The idea is to get something into the hands of kids to help them learn programming.

Bare metal programming is possible though, and the system is fairly open.

Re:It's not truly open... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249635)

The idea is to get something into the hands of kids to help them learn programming.

Umm, yeah... we already have that. It's called a computer. You make me sad.

really, you can make an x86 computer for $35? (1)

Chirs (87576) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250275)

Since the RPi *is* a computer, I assume you meant an x86 computer.

Where exactly can you find one for $35 that has GPIO pins, runs linux, and has HDMI, USB, and gigabit ethernet?

Re:really, you can make an x86 computer for $35? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41252063)

gigabit ethernet, which model are you looking at?

http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs

Re:It's not truly open... (2)

Narishma (822073) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249901)

It's as open as any other ARM SoC with an integrated GPU. There's nothing stopping you from writing your own operating system. Many people already are in the process of doing that. The closed bits are only needed if you want hardware-accelerated 3d rendering and video decoding, which aren't necessary for an operating system to work.

The Beagle Board also has a GPU with closed source binary drivers, I don't see how how it's any different from the Raspberry Pi.

Re:It's not truly open... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41251027)

I said this also. But, to be fair, there is NO open source design that allows HDMI. That really sucks in and of itself.

Ports (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248197)

Still no sign of doing the sane thing of aligning the ports. That means still no clean cases for Pi2.

Still same old non-open source board though... (0)

Maquis196 (535256) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248225)

I appreciate that being cheap is the name of the game for Raspberry, but I wouldn't call this board Debian non-free friendly :)

Re:Still same old non-open source board though... (1)

Maquis196 (535256) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248315)

preview the force luke... damn, meant this board needs a lot of non-free stuff. /me hangs head in shame

cheaper plastic cases please. (1)

SpzToid (869795) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248367)

Hello, I'd like a plastic case, from anyone, that doesn't cost anywhere near the price of the networked/motherboard/CPU powerhouse that is Rasberry Pi. We're talking about molded, (or whatever), plastic. Relatively precision plastic I will grant you, but a small plastic box is The Specification. It doesn't even need to look pretty, just more functional than the cardboard box now in-use. -Thanks, from my entire budget for Rasberries this season.

Re:cheaper plastic cases please. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248475)

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7644389/

£3.99

Re:cheaper plastic cases please. (1)

drwho (4190) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248953)

4 pounds is too much for a hung of plastic. I see no reason why a case can't be 80p....in large quantities. Sure, you could make a case with a 3d printer but it wouldn't be cheap. injection-molding is still the least expensive per unit, but the mold has to be made. These molds can cost lots of money. So, someone needs to invest some money. Perhaps a kickstarter for it?

Re:cheaper plastic cases please. (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250371)

Very much agree. And $8 is probably about the cheapest case I have seen so far. Most of them I see out there are around $15, some as high $25. The computer only costs $35. There's no reason that a plastic case that goes around the thing should be any more than $2. I understand printing these things with 3D printers is expensive. Someone needs to come up with a better solution.

Re:cheaper plastic cases please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249937)

Temporarily out of stock - back order for despatch 08/10/2012

yo dawg! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248397)

> the addition of two 2.5mm mounting holes to
> allow for easier mounting.

Re:yo dawg! (1)

dgatwood (11270) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250325)

Because of the lack of mounting holes, it is very hard to design a snug-fitting case for the the first-gen Raspberry Pi. I'm pretty sure the component placement precludes using a rail-mounted design (slide-in) because there are too many components right at the edge of the board. And there are components at every corner of the board. About the only thing I can come up with are flat rubber bumpers where the CE logo is, under the Ethernet jack, and under the video jack, with different-thickness rubber bumpers on top of the USB jacks and the Pi logo, coupled with insanely tight tolerances around the edges of the board to eliminate sliding back and forth.

I ordered five of these a week ago and learned about the inability to mount them rigidly after I ordered them. They shipped yesterday. I'm not happy. I definitely would not have ordered them had I known that in just a few weeks, I'd be able to get one without this rather serious design flaw.

Re:yo dawg! (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250567)

the OLS (open logic sniffer probe) also was designed and shipped without any mounting holes.

what is it with very smart hardware guys who MISS THE OBVIOUS things like mounting screw holes?

I design and build hardware and while I'm not good enough to be a cpu system designer (my digital chops are more modest) at least I would not have omitted the so-obvious mounting holes.

What is this?!? (3, Informative)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248537)

After waiting for 11 weeks for my RaspberryPi to ship, then getting an email that they would need many more weeks to supply the orders, they announce a 2.0 revision? How about fulfilling your orders first? They announced to the world months ago that they are producing thousands of units per day and yet I still don't have my order. I really don't like how this company is working.

Re:What is this?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248669)

How about fulfilling your orders first?

How about maybe the people designing the board aren't the same ones sticking shipping labels on the finished product?

Re:What is this?!? (1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248901)

RS hasn't shipped it because there was a "delay in manufacturing delivery" (their words)

Re:What is this?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41250295)

Are you sure RS actually makes the boards? The fact that 2-3 designers work on a 2.0 board shouldn't affect the mass production of RPi over at the expensive manufacturing plant that then ships to RS. If they make the board, I'm confused. Why would they need to wait at all? The post seems to indicate they simply submitted new designs.

Re:What is this?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41248789)

It sounds like an internal revision. You will probably get a 2.0 board if yours doesn't ship in the next few weeks. This is not a new product release.

Re:What is this?!? (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249035)

I ordered mine from Farnell two weeks ago. They quoted three weeks for shipping. It arrived last week.

Re:What is this?!? (1)

ctid (449118) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249213)

If you're in the UK, order from CPC. I ordered mine (having cancelled my RS order) at 10am on Tuesday and it was delivered at around 11am this morning.

means mine's gonna finally be on it's way (1)

GLowder (622780) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248653)

Great. This means mine will finally be on it's way. With my luck, I'll get the last shipment that goes out of the now "obsolete" version. I'll then need to order again for a new 2.0 and wait months for it to ship.....

Re:means mine's gonna finally be on it's way (1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248927)

Lesson learned. Don't order from RS online. Newark has over 100 in stock and RS wants to ship my Jun 29th order in October.

Dammit (2)

WillyWanker (1502057) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248711)

I just bought one a month ago. And NOW they release an updated board? Com'n, you couldn't warn us it was coming???

Re:Dammit (4, Funny)

pnot (96038) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249181)

I just bought one a month ago. And NOW they release an updated board? Com'n, you couldn't warn us it was coming???

No. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Dammit (1)

WillyWanker (1502057) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249587)

But that ignores the "now I'm fucking pissed, will never give you any of my money again, and badmouth you till the end of time" effect that often accompanies the Osborne effect.

UK 2.0 (4, Funny)

drwho (4190) | about a year and a half ago | (#41248853)

I am happy that the Raspberri PI has updated the UK to version 2.0. UK v 1.x was getting long in the tooth.

Re:UK 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41250299)

tl;dr version: More rights to corporations,surveillance, less privacy and rights to citizens. ;)

Re:UK 2.0 (1)

mickwd (196449) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250391)

Great. Do you know if they've fixed the weather?

And what about the motorway throughput? Is it really a driver problem?

still can't get the last model (2)

deathguppie (768263) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249001)

Really doesn't matter to me since I had to sign up on a waiting list six months ago, then wait ten weeks after payment for shipment then just recently received an email stating that the order would be delayed. If I can't get the first revision a second one is simply meaningless to me.

Re:still can't get the last model (4, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249063)

cancel your order and get it from MCM.. in stock and I'm getting them 2 days after ordering.

Re:still can't get the last model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249277)

Exact same situation here, and it pisses me off. This is a neat concept that is being dragged down by a crappy distribution model and poor execution.

How about the A board first? (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249043)

I have been waiting for the A board to be released. I want the 1/2 power use and all the useless stuff removed.
Please guys? release the A board soon! I have an alarm clock project and a car stereo project that is dying for the A board.

Re:How about the A board first? (1)

ctid (449118) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249183)

In today's announcement about UK manufacturing, they stated that the Model A would be available before the end of the year.

only way to tell... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249123)

per the article is 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' but why not just look for the two new holes?

Re:only way to tell... (1)

Ignacio (1465) | about a year and a half ago | (#41251353)

How is software supposed to look for the holes? With the camera which a) may or may not be connected, and b) may or may not be pointed at the board?

interesting i guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249253)

Wondering why I ordered mine months ago and it may not ship until next month. I am sad. I should get a 2.0 board for my woes.

change suppliers (1)

Chirs (87576) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250301)

Some suppliers are shipping immediately, others are on back order for some unknown reason.

Would like a hardware revision... (1)

macromorgan (2020426) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249371)

...rather than simply a layout revision. While I like my rPi currently, I'd love to have more RAM, a faster processor, and a better graphics chip. Of course doing so would probably cause the price to blow past the current $35. Maybe they can add a revision "C" to their lineup?

Re:Would like a hardware revision... (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249789)

The problem is that doing so would fragment the development base while the project is still getting off the ground, with all the "cool" stuff going just to the higher end boards because the developers can't be bothered to do the more difficult optimization to let their projects run well on the more limited hardware. Despite the popularity among the hobbyist crowd the project's primary focus is on delivering a low-cost computer to allow accessibility to budget constrained educational institutions, and the like. You can't reasonably expect a non-profit to sacrifice their primary goal for the sake of one segment of the hobbyist crowd.

Re:Would like a hardware revision... (1)

Narishma (822073) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250173)

There are no plans for upgraded hardware. The most they will probably do is move to a 512MB RAM chip when it starts being less expensive than the 256MB chip they are using now.

Wonderful News (1)

formfeed (703859) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249537)

Now all the blogs can add a new story on how to connect an arduino to your Raspberry PI v2 ..

Who cares? No really. Raspberry Pi is ALL HYPE. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41249629)

Yet another story about this useless board? What an unbelievable amount of ridiculous hype this useless little board gets.

I mean come on, what can you even do with this board that you can't do with a Mac Mini? Once again we see how the freetards take a good idea invented by Apple (a small hackable computer) and twist it into something "for the kids" that actually goes against their best interests. NO kid is going to benefit from using or learning anything about Lin-sux, it is an outdated, obsolete technology that is only used by people and companies who cannot afford better software or don't want to buy better software from Apple or Microsoft because of political or competitive reasons.

If you want kids to get the benefits of technology, give them a Mac and watch how they can use BETTER technology to achieve AMAZING results.

Think different.
Think BETTER.
Think Apple!

Re:Who cares? No really. Raspberry Pi is ALL HYPE. (2)

Hatta (162192) | about a year and a half ago | (#41249827)

I mean come on, what can you even do with this board that you can't do with a Mac Mini?

You can't fit a Mac Mini into a cigarette box and run it off of 5 volts all for less than $100.

mac mini? really? mini costs 17x as much (1)

Chirs (87576) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250319)

So the first thing you can do is buy 17x as many of them. You also get GPIO pins for hardware projects.

Picaxe (2)

slashmojo (818930) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250007)

I gave up trying to get a RaspberryPi long ago. I was looking forward to it for months, I had such plans for it, but it's one hurdle after another to actually buy one. I check back every few months to see if anything changed - today I looked again and what do I see in the availability column? "Awaiting delivery". Wonderful..

I'll just go back to tinkering with a picaxe instead.. it was cheap and easy to get and easy to make it do cool stuff even though I know nothing about about electronics. It may not run linux but it plugs into my ubuntu netbook and can be programmed with basic. It's actually fun, unlike the Pi which so far is just an exercise in frustration.

Hard to get? (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | about a year and a half ago | (#41250595)

These are not difficult to get now, except if you order from RS. They're the only supplier that has failed to deliver one within a week. CPC and Farnell are pushing them out pretty quickly now. Not sure about Maplin.
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