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Ask Slashdot: What's Your Take On Stand-Up Desks?

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the desks-that-won't-rat-under-pressure dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "I work at a non-profit that doesn't have the resources to automatically bend to each and every whim. However, I've been told that I can't use a cardboard box to put my computer on, for OSHA and fire prevention reasons. So the choice is, sit down for nine hours each day or else get a standup desk to the tune of 500 bucks or more. Is this worth it? Can I make one myself? Anything to know before I get in deep?" There are lots of home-grown stand-up desks out there (search IKEA Hackers for "stand-up desk" if that's your aesthetic leaning), and some ready-made ones from plainish to very expensive. If you've used a stand-up desk, what are your thoughts?

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Hey buddy (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41249945)

Have you looked in the trash? People throw out perfectly fine furniture all the time. I picked up an extremely sturdy carpenter-built bookcase in the trash. It didn't have shelves but I found enough particle board to make shelves.

Re:Hey buddy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250109)

not only that... what the hell is this post even about somebody cant find a desk at a job because they cant afford ? putting a computer on a desk cant stand for 9 hours wtf. they make cheap metal ones wtf are you looking for $500 desk.

Re:Hey buddy (5, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250249)

Have you looked in the trash? People throw out perfectly fine furniture all the time. I picked up an extremely sturdy carpenter-built bookcase in the trash. It didn't have shelves but I found enough particle board to make shelves.

If your trash heap doesn't have what you need, have you considered Goodwill stores? I'm frequently amazed what I find in them. Money goes to good cause, as well.

Re:Hey buddy (4, Informative)

SQLGuru (980662) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250423)

The things most frequently offered for free off of Craigslist are matresses (eww!), couches, and desks. You should be able to get a couple of desks and use the materials to create a custom desk fairly easily.

My response (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250417)

My response to that company:

"I quit, because you're a fucking moron. Have a nice life....chump."

Why cardboard? (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 2 years ago | (#41249953)

Why not use a wooden or metal box?

Or bricks? (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 2 years ago | (#41249975)

Or bricks? Or cinder blocks?

Re:Or bricks? (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250117)

milk crates.

Re:Or bricks? (1)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250317)

Bonus points if you work at a USPS facility and use old mail crates...

Re:Why cardboard? (1)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250247)

I thought the same thing, and have had thoughts along the same lines.

Actually, I like the idea of this working while standing thing, in fact, I used to often work from a kneeling position, (which is much less comfortable when it comes time to stand up).

My main issue with really adjusting my workspace is that I really want to be able to switch off between sitting and standing.... do part of the day standing, part sitting....

So far the transition seems like more work than its worth,

Re:Why cardboard? (3, Interesting)

Cormacus (976625) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250315)

What you need is a bar stool. When you want to stand, your desk will be at the right height. When you want to sit, pull up your stool!

Re:Why cardboard? (1)

s73v3r (963317) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250451)

Sitting at a bar stool can be less comfortable than sitting in a regular chair.

Re:Why cardboard? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250481)

"in fact, I used to often work from a kneeling position"

BOOM!

Kmart special (4, Interesting)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250465)

I wanted a standing desk for a cheap PC in my workshop, for looking up parts and reference, etc. I wound up going to Kmart, purchasing a cheap narrow PC desk with a roll-out keyboard rest, and a TV stand, and screwed one on top of the other. The result worked out well, with plenty of storage below the PC, and can roll around well.

Use a yoga ball (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41249955)

And a normal desk.

Re:Use a yoga ball (1)

Krojack (575051) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250043)

One of these? [yogaballchair.com] They still run ~$70+.

Re:Use a yoga ball (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250461)

One of these [wikipedia.org] is much better than a Yoga ball chair....

Re:Use a yoga ball (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250049)

You too can be a 'Portlandia' character.

My advice. Stop taking it up the butt and sitting will be more comfortable.

stop being a needy gimp (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41249959)

sit down, do your job. is that so hard?

Re:stop being a needy gimp (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250387)

If I had money, you would win it.

My take? (5, Insightful)

Krojack (575051) | more than 2 years ago | (#41249977)

That I get tired of standing and want to sit down... That's my take.

They are nice for a workbench but not a computer desk unless you're always moving between several different stations. Stock Market stuff comes to mind.

In the end, sitting for 9 hours is bad but also standing for 9 hours is bad. Need to find that middle road and balance it out.

Re:My take? (4, Informative)

frostfreek (647009) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250033)

Standing for 9 hours is Very Bad.

I managed to give myself Plantar Fasciitis when I used a standing desk, due to a different injury that makes it painful to sit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis [wikipedia.org]

Re:My take? (5, Funny)

m.e.l.l.e.n.t.i.n.e (305369) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250363)

Maybe you should try laying down or get some sort of ceiling-mounted harness...

Re:My take? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250365)

Standing for 9 hours is Very Bad.

I managed to give myself Plantar Fasciitis when I used a standing desk, due to a different injury that makes it painful to sit.

Anal sex will due that to you.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

...

I'll take all the "Troll" and "Flambate" mod's as par for the course,

Re:My take? (1)

Iniamyen (2440798) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250591)

As long as you're going to troll, at least learn how to spell.

Re:My take? (3, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250037)

Use a high bench with a tall chair. You can stand when you want to, and sit when you want to.

Re:My take? (3, Interesting)

azadrozny (576352) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250205)

I use this setup in my lab/server room. The KVM consoles are racked at standing height, but we have tall, rolling task chairs for the times you have to park for an extended period of time. I have observed that shorter people have a harder time getting on the chair though.

Re:My take? (0)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250491)

You can stand when you want to

We can stand if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't stand
And if they don't stand
Well they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Because you're one far behind

We can stand

We can go where we want to
The night is young and so am i
And we can dress real neat
From our hats to our feet
Then surprise them with a big trick ride
Say, we can act if we want to
If we don't, nobody will
And you can act real rude
And totally removed
And i can act like an imbecile

Say, we can stand
We can stand
Everything's outta control

We can stand
We can stand
We're doing it more and more
We can stand
We can stand
Everybody look at your hands
We can stand
We can
Everybody's taking a sta-nd
It's safe to stand
Oh well, it's safe to stand
Yes, it's safe to stand

We can standif we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it
Never gonna lose it
Everything will work out right
I say, we can standif we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Because your friends don't stand
And if they don't stand
Well they're no friends of mine

I say, we can stand
We can stand
Everything's outta control
We can stand
We can stand
We're doing it more and more
We can stand
We can stand
Everybody look at your hands
We can stand
We can stand
Everybody's taking the sta-nd
Well, it's safe to stand
Yes, it's safe to stand
Well, it's safe to stand
Oh well, it's safe to stand
Ah yes, it's safe to stand
Well, it's safe to stand
It's safe to stand
It's safe to stand

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Re:My take? (5, Informative)

ErinL (601578) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250257)

I've connected two monitors, two keyboards and two mice to my computer. One set is raised, for working standing up, and the other is on my desk. I stand at times and sit the rest of the time. This works great for me.

Re:My take? (5, Funny)

Skewray (896393) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250537)

I've connected two monitors, two keyboards and two mice to my computer. One set is raised, for working standing up, and the other is on my desk. I stand at times and sit the rest of the time. This works great for me.

Clever. I have two mice, two monitors, and two keyboards as well, but I use one mouse+keyboard for each hand and one monitor for each eye. Then I can work and read Slashdot at the same time.

Re:My take? (2)

ashpool7 (18172) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250557)

Hence the desks that convert? Stand in the morning, get tired, sit for the afternoon.

http://www.geekdesk.com/ [geekdesk.com]

Re:My take? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250571)

Get a desk that can do both. I did and love it!
http://brightrocketdesign.com/blog/post/dont-just-sit-there-getting-fit-with-a-treadmill-desk

Not for the cheap but it's a long term health investment.

They have their uses....fans...foes... (4, Insightful)

raydobbs (99133) | more than 2 years ago | (#41249993)

...like anything else. People with certain back conditions find sitting for any length of time would probably relish the idea of being able to stand at work for the entire period - while others would find it akin to torture to stand for nine hours straight. Sitting puts pressure on the base of your spine, but standing on hard floors is pressure on your feet and knees. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

As long as your aren't FORCED to use a stand-up desk because someone figures they take up less space or that it prevents you from falling asleep at work; then they can be a good thing. If it's a half-baked idea at further cost effective micro-management bullshit - then count me out. And set that manager on fire. Now.

Standing for nine hours isn't much better (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#41249999)

Get a stool to take the occasional 'rest' while still at the desk.

$500? just for a desk with longer legs? Buy a shop work bench, or a lab table, if you don't want to make your own.

Re:Standing for nine hours isn't much better (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250131)

It's probably adjustable, sine not every one would want the same height. That means gears and track, and additional stabilty to comenstate with a high center of gravity. And long legs mean the legs need to support more.

Re:Standing for nine hours isn't much better (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250483)

That means gears and track...

Or placing/removing blocks under the feet. Adjusting the height of a desk with lots of equipment on it will be kind of a pain, no matter what. It's something you really only want to have to do once, which might not be possible if more than one person uses the desk. I was simply recommending something I work with very comfortably. Well, I do admit that mine is in a shop, not an office. I do the paperwork at a regular desk.

Are those really the only choices? (5, Insightful)

QilessQi (2044624) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250001)

You said:

So the choice is, sit down for nine hours each day or else get a standup desk to the tune of 500 bucks or more.

Sorry, but what about just standing up to stretch and walk around every few minutes? I hack code at a traditional desk, but I'm certainly not chained to my chair. Walk around, go to the water cooler, talk to your peers, go outside for lunch. Even if you had a stand-up desk you should still move around a little.

Re:Are those really the only choices? (1)

Krojack (575051) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250159)

That's what I do. I'll sit and program for about 60-90 minutes then get up and take ~5 minute walk around the office and chat with co-workers or step outside to get some fresh air. Works out nicely.

You Can Have Both (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250023)

Don't have to choose one or the other -- you can easily and cheaply have both.
Just get a wood box (several styles, colors, prices available) to hold a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Set it on your desk. Just use a KVM to switch from your current sit down PC to your stand up PC. Then you can sit for awhile, then stand for awhile. Total flexibility and expandability without breaking the bank. My box is like a lectern box so I can put books and papers in it, thus not loosing any valuable desk space.

Stand Up desk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250029)

Is that what people stand behind to give speeches like at the conventions?
 

Re:Stand Up desk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250075)

That's called a "podium".

Re:Stand Up desk (2)

dzr0001 (1053034) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250177)

You stand on a podium and behind a lectern.

There's an Easy Solution to This (1)

El_Che (161286) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250031)

Drafting table -- you can get them new for ~150 up and cheaper used, if you look around. Most are adjustable. Get a tall enough stool and you'll be able to sit down from time to time and keep working.

You'll want both standing and sitting as options. (1)

celeb8 (682138) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250051)

Make sure to get a standing desk that can adjust, and yes I consider them necessary for long-hours shifts now that I've been using one. They make a huge difference in my health, both my co-workers and I have lost weight just standing a few hours a day, and much less aches and pains too. About 1/3 of our staff that has them don't use them.

Why not have both? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250055)

Egrotron makes an interesting looking device (http://www.ergotron.com/tabid/640/Default.aspx) that can convert nearly any desk to a sit/stand workstation. I'm contemplating buying one for myself to use at work (and taking it with me when the time comes to change jobs).

Re:Why not have both? (2)

goodwid (102323) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250377)

I use one of these myself, spending about half my time sitting and half standing, and it works pretty well.

Stand up/Sit Down (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250061)

I have one of these at work:
http://www.geekdesk.com/default.asp?contentID=633

They are definitely pricey, but being able to switch between standing and sitting throughout the day is really the ideal way to go. I tried standing 100% of the time before I got this desk and it ended up being very tiring on some days.

Re:Stand up/Sit Down (2)

Krojack (575051) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250293)

Good god, for that price those should have a motorized adjustment option where you step on a petal to raise and lower the desk.

Re:Stand up/Sit Down (2)

agh3 (53375) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250519)

Another option is http://www.ergodesktop.com/ I bought one of these for my 2 LCD setup a few months ago and I alternate between 2 hours sitting/2 hours standing. It has helped my back problems greatly. This solution allowed me to keep my existing "L" desk without reworking my entire office setup.

Height-adjustable desks (4, Interesting)

yourexhalekiss (833943) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250067)

The desks at my work are on hydraulics, so they can be raised or lowered at will. It's great to be able to raise your desk and stand for a while after sitting for a couple hours, but I wouldn't want to have to be forced to stand all the time.

The desks get high enough that I can push my high-backed office chair underneath it, and low enough to get probably two feet or so off the ground. It's a great compromise between having to sit or stand the entire day.

Cinder Blocks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250077)

I've been experimenting with the concept for a few months now. Thus far, I've been very happy with the process.

Stage #1 was just elevating my desk with some cinder blocks. I stand at an even 6'. That's really convenient, as 16" of cinder blocks elevates a standard desk to a perfect height for me. A bar stool is ideal when you need to switch it up.

Stage #2 was elevating my monitors a bit more than usual. I find that in a standing position, I really prefer the monitors about 8" higher than the keyboard.

Stage #3 was adding a treadmill. I found that consumer treadmills aren't geared to run as slowly as you need for typing. They run very "jerky" as low speeds.

Stage #4 was a spinning bike. I chose a spinning model as they sit proportionally tall compared to a regular exercise bike. The handlebars are easily removable (I run it without handlebars, to make it fit better). It's been great thus far.

I'm planning on going a few more months, then will likely purpose-build. I'm still making sure that I know exactly what I like before continuing.

Resourceful? (1)

Ravaldy (2621787) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250097)

No offense but when did people stop being resourceful? This doesn't seem to be a question that required a forum to address it.

Re:Resourceful? (1)

Art Challenor (2621733) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250613)

It's even stretching "resourceful" when you can google "diy stand up desk" and get pages of relevant results.

what the? (1, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250099)

"I can't use a cardboard box to put my computer on,"
OK. Protip: the make boxes out of other material.

What does that have to do with:
"So the choice is, sit down for nine hours each day or else get a standup desk to the tune of 500 bucks or more"

"Can I make one myself?"
How the fuck would we know? Can you make a desk with long legs that's stable?
Do you have cubes that allow you to mound a desk to it?

Do you have a health reason for standing? then do so. If not, then sit. Get up every two hours and walk for a minute or two.
Stand up desk is a typical solution made up by people who don't think.

Sitting for long hours is bad? Well then we should stand for long hours instead.

Treadmill Desk (2)

sandytaru (1158959) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250101)

Even better than just a stand up desk. For $500, get a simple walking treadmill, and then you can amble along at 1 MPH and burn off an extra fifty to 100 calories an hour. Better for every inch of your body.

Re:Treadmill Desk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250487)

Facebook tried this. Have you seen Insanity Wolf [mshcdn.com] ?

Horsepucky. (1)

pla (258480) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250103)

for OSHA and fire prevention reasons.

Employers like to spew a lot of BS about OSHA and "fire codes". Virtually none of it has the slightest basis in reality.

That said, you generally can't "win" battles like that. Even if you brought in a notarized statement from your town's fire marshal ok'ing your use of a cardboard box, your petulant HR "make up codes as we go" weenie would just make your life hell as payback.


So... Make 'em spend the money, simple as that. And don't get just a stand-up desk, get one of the ones that has the glidey hydraulic things to smoothly give you any height you want (standing all day will do you almost as much harm as sitting all day, you want to change it up every now and then).

Love It (2)

sehryan (412731) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250115)

I just moved to a stand up desk last week. Absolutely love it. I design and code websites, so I have a pretty stationary type of job. Standing up, I move a lot more. I also have an adjustable stool, so if I need to rest my legs for a bit, I can without having to adjust my desk.

I have also noticed that the afternoon wall has completely disappeared. You know, the one where you are struggling to focus - or maybe even stay awake. Never happens.

There are plenty of articles out there about standing vs. sitting, as I did a bunch of research before making the switch. To summarize: Standing is better than sitting, but mixing it up is the best. This doesn't mean fully sitting down - the stool I use is a great example. But you do need to be able to change position for a bit, because being in one position for 8-9 hours a day is bad.

Re:Love It (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250203)

I have also noticed that the afternoon wall has completely disappeared. You know, the one where you are struggling to focus - or maybe even stay awake.

Oh, you mean that "2:30" feeling? Yeah, I know what you mean. I heard of a great solution!

Re:Love It (2)

ase (39429) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250333)

Exactly. I switched to a standing desk, and love it. I stay energized throughout the day. YMMV. To break it up, I walk around a lot during phone calls. I had my desk custom built, but that can be pricey. A friend of mine that works at Amazon was provided a different solution when he asked for a standing desk: a door blank on top of four sturdy posts. A wonderfully broad work surface, and stable as heck.

Card Board boxes burn, wooden boxes fly (1)

bsy-1 (169906) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250137)

OSHA is going to have issues (at least here in California) with anything that sits on top of the desk. Here they become missile hazards when the earth shakes, The heavier the box, the less chance you will survive the experience.

Re:Card Board boxes burn, wooden boxes fly (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250283)

how do you work with empty desks then?

standing up isn't much better (1)

dell623 (2021586) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250141)

People who stand all day at work tend to develop varicose veins. And I have seen it in people in their early twenties - it's not pretty. Sit when you need to, walk around to think, have swordfights while your code compiles (http://xkcd.com/303/), don't take lunch at your desk, take breaks, invest in those highly expensive chairs. All elementary precautions really. I don't know how standing for nine hours will be anything but tortuous.

Ikea jerker and a normal table (1)

pridkett (2666) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250147)

There's lots of various options for building an easy standup desk, especially if you're close to an Ikea. An easy solution is to stop by Ikea and pick up some Malm side tables and trim to height. That worked well enough for a while, eventually I wanted something better.

The solution was to pick up a used Ikea Jerker desk off Craigslist. I work at that most of the time and when my feet need a rest I'll switch to a small table that's close by. Total cost: $50 and it works great.

That said, it weirds out some people at work how I work standing up. I can't imagine what they'll think once I move in a treadmill.

No Brainer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250151)

"sit down for nine hours each day or else get a standup desk"

This is an easy one. Sit down for nine hours a day like 99.99999% of the rest of the office workforce. If you want to stand out and be cool in a slightly eccentric way but can't sit in one of those horrible Balans chairs from the 90s for more than an hour, don't get a stand up desk. It's worse than a Balans chair. Consider something like wearing toe shoes and hemp utilikilts to the office instead. Pretty much exactly the same effect, only you won't get tired.

Hard to say (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250155)

The scientist in me says they likely have some merit but the cynic in me says they're the stupid corporate fad of the moment.

Re:Hard to say (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250233)

They're both. Nothing makes a huge fad like an incremental improvement.

No (3, Funny)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250167)

>> Can I make one myself?

If you have to ask, the answer is probably no.

Sitting or standing, ergonomics is important (2)

imidan (559239) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250169)

For one thing, even with a sit-down desk, you shouldn't be sitting in front of it for nine hours. What I do is I set a countdown timer for an hour or so. When it rings, I get up and walk around the floor, hit the bathroom, fill up my water bottle, maybe step outside for a few minutes and experience sunlight. But you really have to train yourself to do it, and stick to getting up when it goes off. I find that it improves my work, because it forces me to step away from immediate problems and think about things in a larger context while I'm taking my little walk. I get back to my desk eager (usually) to continue work, and energized from getting my blood flowing. If your employer is so concerned about OSHA, then they should know that OSHA recommends frequent rest breaks for employees who sit at computer desks all day.

To me, one of the most important things about a standing desk is that you need to pay attention to the ergonomics of the floor and your footwear. My building has concrete floors with low-pile carpet. If I stood all day at a desk on this surface, my feet would kill by the end of the day. You potentially need a floor mat that provides more support than a solid floor. Think of the kinds of surfaces that workers on manufacturing lines stand on all day. You also want some kind of low platform or stool (preferably two of different heights, or one that you can flip onto a different side to change its height) that you can use to put one foot up on for periods, adjust your stance and weight distribution. Finally, you'll want to pay attention to the shoes that you wear, to make sure that you're getting the support that your feet need for you to be standing on them all day. There's a reason they call beat cops 'flat-foor'.

So. Sorry for the text wall. But those are some considerations.

Build Your Own Platform (1)

bwohlgemuth (182897) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250179)

First thing is to ensure your monitor can tilt far enough whether sitting or standing. Most can, but it's a good thing to verify first. After that, it's simple. All you need is a stand that can hold keyboard/mouse and then tilt the monitor to what is comfortable. I built mine out of a $12 piece of bookshelf board from Menards. A few drywall screws and then you can pull it when you need to sit down.

Back pain! (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250195)

I get a sore back from standing in once place for extended periods of time. I can walk for 8 hours, without a problem, but stand for 30 minutes and I'm going to have to sit down gently because my back is yelling at me.

Re:Back pain! (2)

eam (192101) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250573)

Then you would want a treadmill desk. You can walk for 8 hours at your desk.

Stand-up like comedy... (1)

ElitistWhiner (79961) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250197)

relies on your sense of humor - humerus bone, that is...

You'll be on your elbows, leaning, thinking and supporting your upper torso alot.

Used one for 6 months, loved it. (1)

littlesparkvt (2707383) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250211)

At my last job I was using a stand up desk for about 6 months and loved it. The thing about a stand up desk is that you can sit down in a chair if you need to take a break, the chair is just a bit taller to accomodate the size of the desk. The key is to make sure that the desk is the right height or you will be VERY uncomfortable.

Supine Workstation (1)

jcborro (209987) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250213)

Wake me up when someone offers a desk I can use while lying down with back flat on the floor.

Then I'll most likely fall back asleep...

Craze (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250225)

Is the standup desk craze that intense, now, that people can't even work without one? How did civilization even advance over the past 1000 years--since the advent of clerical work?

500 bucks is kind of the going rate... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250237)

I've had several desks, and to be honest, it seems pretty common to spend at least 500 bucks on a standard desk. If you're looking for "commercial quality" like steel case, they can easily surpass 1,000 dollars for a metal and plastic rectangular desk.

I used to work for the government, and. Since they had on-site "health and safety" regulators, it was easy to get a different style desk. Several people had the electronic high-low desks that allowed for sitting or standing heights (careful with your cable management!).

About ten years ago, I started a job as a contractor for a large bank, in a brand new building. It was complete with huge offices and thousand dollar chairs for the 25-year old "executives" in the building. I was shown my "office" (server room), which literally had a desk made from cardboard dell boxes and shipping tubes. My chair was a short stool. Yes, that was my actual desk. I left that position quite quickly.

Check Life Hacker (1)

Johnny00 (213878) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250251)

Life Hacker has a variety of articles covering standing desks. You can find a good collection of their concepts here: Standing Desks on the Cheap [lifehacker.com]

powered desks (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250259)

At work we have desks with an electric motor that can raise/lower it at any time. Huge desks with a decent sized return. $employer also made sure to get us very large, very thick, very comfortable mats to stand on.

The Good:
This has been a tremendous benefit for us fat guys. Stronger core, burning calories, etc. Has been a very healthy improvement. Also, way less discomfort throughout the day. Another huge, unintended benefit, is momentum -- if you're already standing, going and working on something or talking to somebody is very natural and happens much more easily, compared to overcoming the lethargy of sitting; who wants to get out of their chair to go talk to a coworker? It has improved our face time dramatically, with lots of side benefits stemming from that.

The Bad:
The first 8-10 work days of standing are hard on your hips/knees/feet as your body probably isn't used to standing for 6-8 hours a day. Also, when it comes to doing extremely mentally demanding tasks (pouring through multiple spreadsheets, programming, etc), I find that I prefer to sit for that; any sort of daily work is done standing. You also MUST have a sturdy desk, otherwise when it is 4' up in the air it will wobble and make your monitors shake (this is prevalent with monitors on arms).

All in all, it might be pricy but it is 100% worth it for the health/happiness and group-ware/collaboration benefits.

Standing for 9 hours is no better than sitting for (2)

dirk (87083) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250265)

My first thought is that if you are going to be using it for 9 hours every day, then you shouldn't be getting a standing desk. Standing for 9 hours every day is not good on your body. It is horrible on your legs, especially your knees. Yes, sitting for 9 hours isn't good either, but it is much either to get up and walk around than it is to sit down. Standing desks are a great idea for light to moderate use. If you are using them off and on all day, they are great. But if you are using them continually all day, they are horrible, mainly because you have to stand. At a regular sitting desk, it is very easy to stand up and stretch, walk around, or even just stand for a couple minutes and still look at your computer. When you go to the bathroom or to the copier or printer, you are getting a break form sitting, but not from standing. Unless your standing desk is extremely flexible, it is usually very difficult to sit down at a standing desk and still be productive.

Make sure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250279)

Make sure you get a stool or a drafting chair... I worked most of my younger jobs as a architectural designers so I used to stand and use a drafting board... you will want to have a chair.

It depends (2)

cornface (900179) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250323)

If you work in a cubicle area, do not use a standup desk. There was always some chucklehead who would stand up while working and it annoyed everybody.

It is like having someone standing behind your chair all day.

If you have your own office, having the option of standing is probably nice.

Upon reflection (1)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250369)

My opinion of standup desks is very much the same as it is about running toilets.

wtf? (1)

ilsaloving (1534307) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250381)

How exactly is being able to sit down equivalent to "bending to each and every whim"? Has employment standards in the US fallen so low that employees arn't even entitled to basic amenities anymore? Why not make everyone wear loin cloths and be forced to work while crouching in an insect-infested dirt floor while you're at it?

The fact that the submitter goes from "Can't have anything" to a "$500 stand up desk" is just unfathomable. There are so many options for getting cheap/free furniture, there is no excuse for having to resort to cardboard boxes. You can get perfectly good desks and chairs from Goodwill or some other similar place. Hell, place ads on freecycle requesting old furniture.

I think the first step here is to fix what is clearly an attitude problem at the company. Apparently the people there feel that suffering is a mandatory component to working there, and that's flat out crap.

Kneel before Zod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250401)

Get yourself a gardening mat (or two), move the chair to the side, and kneel in front of your desk. Same benefits as standing, no need to alter the desk.

Desk + short stand + shelf (1)

ldbapp (1316555) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250405)

I made a standing workstation from my existing desk, a short (~14") stand for my keyboard and put my monitor on a shelf above the desk. I even made the stand from salvaged materials around the building. You could do it with a small plank and 4 2x2" legs.

NT Times and Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250413)

$5000 to stand up?

I guess it makes sense... check out this NY Times article.. [nytimes.com]

"...University of Massachusetts showing that when volunteers stood all day — nothing else; no walking or jogging; just standing — they burned hundreds more calories than when they sat for the same period of time."

But then again... we're against standing... again from the NY Times.. [nytimes.com]

"At any moment, there were thousands of workers standing on assembly lines or sitting in backless chairs, crouching next to large machinery, or jogging between loading bays..."

Standing = more calories burned
backless chairs = good posture
jogging = exercise

Who knew Foxconn and Apple just wanted to help their workers and were ahead of the curve?!?! ;-)

Simple solution (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250453)

Go to Home Depot and buy 4-6 cinder blocks. Think they are about $10 a piece, plus nobody can say they are a fire hazard because lots of buildings are made with them.

Oh please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250455)

VR Gloves and headset, or get back to work...

Use one at home full time. Love it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250469)

I changed to one at home for space reasons and the first couple weeks were pure hell, getting used to standing up for hours at a time. Reminds you what a fat-ass you are sitting at a computer for most of your waking life...

And now I'm used to it - spend a few hours each night and long stretches on the weekend.

Now my workplace feels like the unhealthy option - I find myself taking walking breaks every hour just to stand up again.

FWIW, when I was younger I wasn't athletic, but I did run cross-country.

I have one (1)

Brian Feldman (350) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250475)

I have one of these desks [smartfurniture.com] and I barely use it in standing mode because it's wobbly as all hell to type on and I hate watching the LCDs jiggle around. I don't think I would ever recommend it because of that. Sucks that it was such a nice concept.

Re:I have one (1)

Brian Feldman (350) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250507)

To be fair, the Dell Precision notebook on my desk doesn't have its display wobble like crazy regardless of what height the desk is at, so maybe I should be directing my ire at the Samsung LCD's godawful stand instead....

dell lets me stack up my computer for standing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250501)

I use boxes and laptop stands on top of each other to get my laptop and monitor up. I also have a high chair from the kitchen to sit on when my feet hurt. I have no idea what the ''OSHA' issue is with piling up boxes. No one at Dell cares. I will actually stack them up to stand for a few hours and then lower then down to sit when my feet hurt. Dell is a big company so if there really were OSHA issues, they would say something.

I think your manager is an utter control freak wacko.

I get muscle cramps in my back. A chiropractor told me that your screen should be level with your head and you should not have to move your head to see your screen. The only easy way to do that is to stack the monitor up on stacks of paper or boxes. It is higher than you think. you are supposed to be able to sit straight up without slouch and your eyes should be in the middle of the screen. I supposed that violates OSHA too right? It has really helped relieve my back cramps.

I think your company may be paranoid about your monitor falling and breaking. If you use paper and do it right, the chance of that is very low. However, if you work in a control freak whacko management environment they won't care. I would look for a new job.

You need something fancier than that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250509)

You don't want to stand for 9 hours a day. If you want something like this, you'll need a desk where you can press a button and then the desk adjusts itself between a sitting and standing height. That way you can switch between sitting and standing every time one position gets uncomfortable.

Sandup desks for trendy slaves. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250511)

Really now. Standup desks are only talked about because its the flavor of the month and something that people seem to think makes them unique, cool, special and trendy.

Standup desks are just a product of the starbucks generation that sits around sipping coffee while looking at an ipad because they want to be seen doing so. Everyone I see talking about standup desks are the same who brag about their iphone, how they eat organic foods, how they drive a hybrid, they love starbucks and so on with a smug and pretentious sense of self satisfaction.

Really now, why talk about standup desks? If you want one then get one. Its that easy. Oh thats right, people talk about them because they want validation.

Tall chair (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250527)

I don't know so much about stand up desks, but I did enjoy having a tall chair desk. If the desk could be used while standing and ALSO have a tall chair or stool I think it'd be great. That way when people walk up to you for a conversation they're not hovering above you.

It would also give me a better view of the street through my second floor window ;)

oO.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250575)

1. Stand-up desks are very bad for you, talk about sore knees!

2. No sane person would pay $500.00 for a stand up desk

3. Spend $50.00 at lowes or walmart for a regular desk.

Can barely work sitting anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250589)

I've been using a standing desk at work for about a year and a half now. I started with putting the monitor on a small wooden shelf (from Target for $15) and mouse/keyboard on a pile of giant old reference books. It worked, but I was then offered an Ergotron workfit, which looks a good bit more professional although people still think it's crazy. The Ergotron solution at least allows for moving between sitting and standing positions in two seconds and doesn't require swapping out a whole desk. I just can't work sitting or a I fall asleep. Same problem in college classes. I also got a static standing desk at home as well. I've always been active, and going from walking six miles a day and running six miles a day in college to sitting 8 hours a day would kill me not-so-slowly.

I got used to it. I have more issues on hard floors than soft floors, and some shoes work better than others. Maybe some increased risk of vericose veins, but I think when combined with a reasonable amount of exercise and taking breaks to move around, it's a pretty healthy alternative.

Why not use a box or something? (1)

Normal Dan (1053064) | more than 2 years ago | (#41250597)

You say people complain about putting your computer on a cardboard box, but what about a plastic one? There's no need to spend a ton of money on a desk when all you need is an elevated flat surface.

Also, if anyone complains, try hitting them.

$500? Please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#41250605)

I put together a stand up desk with an Ikea table base, table top, Capita legs and shelves for around $200. I have a barstool for when I want to rest, and I got it from Craigslist.

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