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Google Announces Its First Latin-American Data Center

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the places-I-want-to-visit dept.

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1sockchuck writes "Google continues to expand the global reach of its infrastructure. Today the company announced plans to build its first data center in Latin America, investing $150 million in a facility in Quilicura, Chile. Google cited growing Internet use in Latin America, and said Chile has reliable infrastructure and a business-friendly environment. Last year Google announced plans for three new server farms in the Asia Pacific region, as well as a new data center in Dublin. Over the past year, Google has invested more than $2.5 billion on servers and data centers."

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Why Chile (-1, Troll)

Makasa (2724375) | about 2 years ago | (#41251657)

While Chile is a Buddhist country, it's also hugely dependable on foreign aid and earthquakes. Why would Google want to do business there?

Re:Why Chile (1)

Alienwise (2631391) | about 2 years ago | (#41251721)

What's the take on this remark? It's either too dumb for a slashdotter or too smart for me. Please pick one and let me know.

Re:Why Chile (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about 2 years ago | (#41251731)

::Facepalm::

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251749)

While Chile is a Buddhist country, it's also hugely dependable on foreign aid and earthquakes. Why would Google want to do business there?

You're thinking of the Asian Chile. This article is about the South American Chile.

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251863)

Personally, I like Texas chile the best.

Re:Why Chile (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41253169)

You should try Merken [wikipedia.org]

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41252137)

You confused me more. Asian Chile?

Re:Why Chile (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251751)

While Chile is a Buddhist country, it's also hugely dependable on foreign aid and earthquakes. Why would Google want to do business there?

Chile is Roman Catholic, also not dependant at all on foreign aid.
We do have earthquakes, but most construction is resistant to it.

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41252297)

Not to mention that Google is based out of California, which has this thing you might have heard of, the San Andreas Fault...

Re:Why Chile (1)

ravenlord_hun (2715033) | about 2 years ago | (#41254243)

Don't worry, they will just hang onto the Cloud when the ground opens up beneath them.

Re:Why Chile (1)

nospam007 (722110) | about 2 years ago | (#41253197)

"Chile is Roman Catholic, also not dependant at all on foreign aid.
We do have earthquakes, but most construction is resistant to it."

But why do they call it Latin-America when nobody speaks Latin?

Re:Why Chile (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41253375)

Latin isn't dead; it's just got a handful of national varieties: French, Spanish, Italian, Portugese, etc.

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41253493)

Chile Buddhist?!? WTF?
Me parece que no tienen ni idea de lo que hablan :)

RTFA (2)

bobthesungeek76036 (2697689) | about 2 years ago | (#41251769)

"Google cited growing Internet use in Latin America, and said Chile has reliable infrastructure and a business-friendly environment"

Re:RTFA (2)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 2 years ago | (#41252731)

Chile is a nice sane modern country. For example it is the only Latin American member of the OECD. The last time I was there they had put in a new subway system - very nice indeed. Much less crime than Brazil. Strong currency too.

The reliable infrastructure is ok except when they are having an earthquake. The one in 1960 was a real beeeeotch for sure. 9.5 Mw. My wife was actually there when it happened. The tsunami from it was still 10m high and killed 142 people in Japan.

I think they are mostly recovered from the last big one a couple of years ago. Only 8.8 or so.

The scenery is magnificent. Coming into Santiago from the north on a overnight flight you get to see the sun on the slopes of Aconcagua (highest mountain outside Asia) and the rest of the Andean cordillera.

Re:RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41253637)

Mexico is also an OECD member and the president of the OECD is also mexican.

Re:RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41255413)

Actually Mexico is also member of the OECD: http://www.oecd.org/about/membersandpartners/, but Chile definitively a great and nice country..

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251793)

You're a pal and a cosmonaut.

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251955)

You're a pal and a confidant! Get it right. It's confidant. Not cosmonaut.

Re:Why Chile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41252203)

How can a country be hugely dependable (sic) on earthquakes?

Re:Why Chile (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 2 years ago | (#41252397)

You must be thinking about a different planet.

I can hear it now... (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about 2 years ago | (#41251765)

"If you're running a Google data center, then where are your backups?"
"Backups? We ain't got no backups. We don't need no backups! I don't have to show you any stinkin' backups!"

Re:I can hear it now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251889)

I'm sure they can backup their data in the cloud.

Re:I can hear it now... (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | about 2 years ago | (#41251907)

But if you back up your data in the cloud, your data could fall as rain anywhere in the world.

Re:I can hear it now... (2)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about 2 years ago | (#41252595)

You can't backup the "cloud" with the "cloud". I think if you tried, Frost Giants would appear throughout the land and bring about Ragnarok. Of which, Google would ensure it was properly indexed, furthering the events of the end of the world.

Makes sense. (3, Insightful)

heypete (60671) | about 2 years ago | (#41251767)

South America, much like Africa, is relatively poorly served in regards to local datacenters and backbone network connectivity compared to North America, Europe, and East Asia.

There's a large market there, so it makes sense that companies would start investing in local resources to serve that market.

Re:Makes sense. (2)

PPalmgren (1009823) | about 2 years ago | (#41252095)

I remember playing a game I enjoyed that ran dedicated servers for different regions, but not for Brazil and Australia. Due to constant complaining, they eventually divulged the reasons: the hosting services in those locations were god-awful expensive, tripling and quadrupling the cost of US datacenters with low bandwidth caps, and felt that deceptively hosting another region's server elsewhere and it being in name only was unethical. Apparently, a lot of games that run Oceanic servers meant to cover Australia run them out of Cali for this reason.

Re:Makes sense. (0)

Isaac-1 (233099) | about 2 years ago | (#41252393)

True by calling Chile, Latin America is a bit like Calling Japan, Asia

Re:Makes sense. (1)

Shatrat (855151) | about 2 years ago | (#41253285)

So, a true statement?

Salsa! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41251881)

I misread that as: Google Announces Its First Latin-American Dance Center

First Latin American? Do servers speak languages? (2)

vovick (1397387) | about 2 years ago | (#41252301)

The headline sounds as if Google was interested in the national language of the country rather than the geographical location, IT infrastracture, maintenance cost and other country (but not language!) dependent factors. One would think that Guyana [wikipedia.org] or Suriname [wikipedia.org] were also out of question because of this. Why not call it the first South American server instead since it is located, you know, in South America?

Re:First Latin American? Do servers speak language (2)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 2 years ago | (#41253415)

No, but voters do! Both candidates are vying for the Latin-American vote, so a Latin-American Data Center is a good political strategic move. They can sell Latin-American Data to both political parties! Listen to both of their speeches for signs of things that appeal to Latin-Americans' voters' likes in Google.

Additionally both candidates are after women voters. So the US Secret Service has taken a special interest in Latin-American women, just to be on the safe side.

I forgot, which candidates does Google own, again . . . ?

Re:First Latin American? Do servers speak language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41255411)

I forgot, which candidates does Google own, again . . . ?

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=Google+Ron+Paul

Unwarranted inferences and accurate descriptions (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41254071)

The headline sounds as if Google was interested in the national language of the country

The headline doesn't suggest anything about why the location was selected. It simply reports a fact about the location that was selected.

Why not call it the first South American server instead since it is located, you know, in South America?

Calling it the "first South American server" would be less accurate than calling it the "first Latin American data center", since while it is both in "Latin America" and in "South America", it is a data center, not, you know, a single server (and since the article doesn't indicate that its Google's first office in either Latin or South America, it quite likely doesn't involve Google's first server in either place.)

Latin America is bigger than (though not, as you note, a strict superset of) South America (including, as it does, virtually all of Central and South America), so its quite possible that the "Latin America" designation was chosen because its more significant, while still being shorter than "first data center in the Western Hemisphere outside of the United States", which would have also been accurate.

Re:Unwarranted inferences and accurate description (1)

vovick (1397387) | about 2 years ago | (#41254741)

> it is a data center, not, you know, a single server
The "server" is certainly a typo, as you should have guessed. Certain people like me have coherence problems expressing their thoughts and cannot live without an edit button.

> "Latin America" designation was chosen because its more significant
The whole issue is debatable, my personal opinion is that the main reason Google wants to have servers in South America is to improve the latency for people living there and take some load off international cables. Both of these goals cannot be achieved from Mexico or other Latin American countries not physically located in South America.

Re:Unwarranted inferences and accurate description (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41254833)

"first data center in the Western Hemisphere outside of the United States"

Nope. You're forgetting Toronto. And if you use a non-americo-centric definition of western hemisphere you're also forgetting Dublin and maybe London.

Google Western Hemisphere Data Centers (non-US) (2)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41255111)

You're forgetting Toronto. And if you use a non-americo-centric definition of western hemisphere you're also forgetting Dublin and maybe London.

I was basing the comment on Google's published list of data center locations [google.com] , which does not include Toronto, Dublin, or London.

Re:Google Western Hemisphere Data Centers (non-US) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41257767)

I was going on a third-party list published before Google's official list.

I just tried doing a tracert to google.co.uk from the UK. My packets take about 6ms to get from London to the data centre. At the speed of light, this is about 1125 miles. Then I googled the distance of Finland from the UK (specifically Helsinki to London) and got 1124 miles! So it does look like I had bogus information.

I stand corrected.

Re:First Latin American? Do servers speak language (1)

HFShadow (530449) | about 2 years ago | (#41255161)

Because they already have facilities in Sao Paulo, so this wouldn't be worthy of a press release if they said South America

Re:First Latin American? Do servers speak language (1)

Kyusaku Natsume (1098) | about 2 years ago | (#41257347)

Latin America is the proper name for all the former spanish and portuguese colonies. We have a shared language and 500 hundred years of shared history. A chilean from Rosario have more in common with a mexican from Tijuana than a catalonian from Barcelona with a spanish from Madrid. We are not a single country due the meddling of foreign powers and the short sightedness of most of our leadership since the XIX century. It makes sense that Googlee builds a datacenter tailored to the needs of the geopolitical, economic subcontinent.

South America is not Latin America (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41265609)

Not at all man, maybe the west coast of south america in which all the Spanish mines originally lay might have a common ethnographic origin. but eastern south america, having received the enormous influx of WW2 refugees (jews, gypsies, spanish civil war escapees, italians, french) has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the "first wave" colonist. In fact my grandmother was from Madrid, and my grandfather from Catalonyia and they met shortly after arriving at Buenos Aires.

Latin America is nothing but a racist and ignorant term to classify and subjugate an entire continent to the erroneous perceptions of the northern hemisphere (with english having as much latin as modern spanish for gods sake). And no we do not agree with you Central America, we are not brothers and sisters, fuck your tropical bull@#$t

YOU FAZIL IT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41252459)

people'5 faces is keed to be Kreskin itself. You can't ppor priorities,

Not the first in Latin America (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41253153)

The article is wrong. This is not Google's first data center in Latin America. They have had a data center in Sao Paulo, Brazil, for many years.

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/05/15/google-data-center-faq/
http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/sao-paulo/ops-support/data-center/

Re:Not the first in Latin America (1)

Cantus (582758) | about 2 years ago | (#41271005)

Google has not built a data center in Sao Paulo, Brazil. They use third-party facilities there.

I also found these:

http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/bogota/ops-support/data-center/ [google.com]
http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/buenos-aires/ops-support/data-center/ [google.com]
http://www.google.com/about/jobs/locations/lima/ops-support/data-center/ [google.com]

I don't why these misleading URLs exist. Maybe future Data Centers?

If you click on "Latin America (4)" you find only one entry: "Santiago (4)".

No surprise that it's in Chile. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41255283)

When just the headline of this article scrolled into view, with no prior knowledge of Google's plans, my immediate thought was: "Somewhere in Latin America, eh? I bet that it's in Chile!" Scrolling down a bit further confirmed that I was correct.

Now you may wonder - how did I hit such a narrow target? After all, Chile represents only 3% of Latin America's population, and there are plenty of cities in that part of the world (São Paulo, Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, Brasilia) with a larger urban GDP than the Santiago metropolitan area...

The answer is simple - it's all about Economic Freedom! [heritage.org]

Years ago, my more socialist acquaintances laughed when I told them that Chile will soon be one of the richest and best developed countries in the region, and eventually the world - that laughter is now beginning to fade. Libertarians and other pro-capitalists shouldn't be surprised one bit.

Too bad there wasn't enough Pinochets to save other Latin American countries from socialism - initially much richer countries that Chile has now leapfrogged...

(Signed: Alex Libman's sockpuppet.)

Buddhist? (1)

Cute and Cuddly (2646619) | about 2 years ago | (#41255441)

Buddhist? where did you get that information? The CIA fact book? There is no predominantly Buddhist countries anywhere in Latin America. Chile is a mostly Catholic country and that information is irrelevant anywhere. Chances are however that the computers installed in the data centre will be build by Buddhist people somewhere in Asia. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_by_country) shows that the percentage of Buddhist in Chile is 0.04%

Backbone issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41255471)

Well, that's interesting, but I wonder why Chile? It is a lovely country, but most of the heavy google usage is in Brazil, and Argentina comes second. There is basically NO fiber across south america, it is all under the sea, going around the continent. That means a _HUGE_ roundtrip from Chile to Brazil.

It is actually faster to get the data from the USA. Really.

Apparently, we will continue being served by the ever-increasing number of google caches. Which are actually NOT welcome by lower-tier ISPs and ASes, as bgp and cdn games move massive amounts of traffic from no-toll connections to the main IXP in SP to the transit providers with local google caches. Meh.

Maybe someone will lay the fiber, now. But doing it across the Andes, with all those earthquakes and active volcanoes? Argh.

Business Friendly is just code for worker pliancy. (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about 2 years ago | (#41257423)

Business friendliness doesn't mean anything if it results in less freedoms for regular individuals.

Now if they were to do datacenters in otherwise sane places not completely controlled by business - e.g. north of the Mason-Dixon, east of the Mississippi (exc. Indiana) and New England - there might be something of note in the news.

Re:Business Friendly is just code for worker plian (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41257951)

You need to read up on capitalist philosophy [wikipedia.org] , my friend.

A government that is less destructive to the enterprise is beneficial for everyone (except perhaps thieves, in the short-term).

(Signed: Alex Libman's sockpuppet.)

Opportunity (1)

businessone.in (2709867) | about 2 years ago | (#41259245)

More infrastructures means more opportunities, Google is one of the most aggressive organization steeping towards its growth with a remarkable pace! Inventions and improvements are two things which it does all the time.Any changes made by Google will effect the entire computer world. http://businessone.in/ [businessone.in]
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