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Apple Announces iPhone 5

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the who-would-have-guessed dept.

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Today Phil Schiller took to the stage at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, where he announced the long-expected iPhone 5. The casing is made entirely of glass and aluminum, and it's 7.6mm thick, which is 18% thinner than the iPhone 4S. It weighs in at 112 grams, which is 20% lighter than the 4S. Schiller confirmed that the iPhone 5 has a 4" display, with a resolution of 1136x640. It's a 16:9 aspect ratio. The screen is the same width as a 4S, but it's taller. To accommodate older apps, they either center the app or add black bars to make it look right. The new device also has LTE support. Tim Cook spoke earlier about the iPad, making some interesting claims: "Yes, we are in a post-PC world." He also claimed 68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic. The event is continuing, and we'll update this post as further announcements appear. A real-time liveblog is being quickly updated at Ars Technica. Update: 09/12 18:16 GMT by S : Further details below.Further details: for the iPhone 5, Apple also added support for HSPA+ and DC-HSDPA. The dynamic antenna is an improvement over the 4S, and can switch connections. In the U.S. LTE partners are AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. On to processing: the iPhone 5 runs an A6 chip that's twice as fast as the A5, in addition to being 22% smaller. Rob Murray from EA got up on stage to show a racing game, claiming that the graphics "have been built to full console quality." Battery life for the phone will be roughly 8 hours for either 3G talk-time or browsing. Engadget has a feature-by-feature comparison to the 4S.

The new phone's camera has an 8-Megapixel sensor, with a resolution of 3264x2448. It includes a hybrid IR filter, an f/2.4 aperture, and a five element lens. And a sapphire crystal lens cover, for whatever that's worth. There's a new feature for taking panorama shots (claimed 'breakthrough software,' though similar software already appears on actual cameras), and new software for automatically sharing pictures.

Apple also detailed the new connector, dubbed 'Lightning.' It's entirely digital, and 80% smaller than the old connector. It can be plugged in in either direction. Apple has created a bunch of adapters to let old cables and hardware work with Lightning. They then spoke at length about iOS 6, which will run on the iPhone 5, and demonstrated their new Maps app, which includes turn-by-turn directions (also in 3D using a 'cinematic camera'). "Apple is betting heavily on Passbook and other features to give it a leg up in the competition over Google Android and the upcoming Windows Phone 8." Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 start on Friday, and the device will start shipping on September 21. iOS 6 will roll out on September 19.

Apple's Eddie Cue went on stage to discuss changes to iTunes and the iPod. iTunes has been redesigned to work better on the iPad, and, more importantly, iCloud integration has been built in. They've also made a 'mini-player,' which takes up much less screen real estate. The new iTunes will be available in late October. Changes are coming for iPods as well. The new iPod nano looks like a mini iPod Touch. It's 38% thinner than the previous model, but has a bigger, 2.5" multitouch display. It contains an FM tuner with DVR functionality, it has a Home button, and it uses the Lightning connector. The iPod Touch is now 6.1 mm thick and weighs 88 grams. It has a Lightning connector port too, in addition to the headphone jack. The screen is bigger; it's a 4" display, the same as the iPhone 5. It runs on a dual-core A5 processor that's twice as fast as the previous model. Graphics are claimed to be seven times faster. The battery allows for 40 hours of audio playback or 8 hours of video playback. The camera has been upgraded to a 5MP sensor. The iPod Touch comes in colors now. But not grape. Apple also took the wraps off what they call "EarPods." They're like earbuds, but they don't form a seal within the ear. They let air flow continue, and a tiny speaker directs the sound into the ear. The EarPods will come standard with the iPhone 5 and with the new revisions of the iPod Nano, and iPod Touch.

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meh (3, Insightful)

LodCrappo (705968) | about 2 years ago | (#41313967)

whatever

Re:meh (5, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41313997)

If Jobs did the presentation it would be amazing.

Re:meh (2)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#41314081)

If Jobs did the presentation it would be amazing.

I wonder if the lines outside Apple Stores will be as long in the Cook era as they were in the Jobs era. It looks like something people would be happy with.

remember when slashdot was good?! (5, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | about 2 years ago | (#41314135)

Won't wirelessly stream video to my HDTV

less storage than the Library of Congress

Lame.

Re:meh (4, Funny)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41314223)

If Jobs did the presentation it would be amazing.

I'd definitely be amazed if I saw a dead guy give a presentation.

Re:meh (5, Funny)

c (8461) | about 2 years ago | (#41314373)

If Jobs did the presentation it would be amazing.

I'd definitely be amazed if I saw a dead guy give a presentation.

I've seen some where I'm almost sure the presenter was dead...

Then prepare to be amazed! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314419)

http://thecuriousbrain.com/?p=33360

Re:meh (5, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41314507)

"Ladies and Gentlemen, Mesdames et Messieurs, Damen und Herren, from what was once an inarticulate mass of lifeless tissues, may I present a cultured, sophosticated, Man About Town..."

Re:meh (1)

Strider- (39683) | about 2 years ago | (#41314539)

How many presentations did Strom Thurmond do in the final few years before the moths ate too many holes?

Re:meh (4, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 2 years ago | (#41314555)

I have to disagree. If Jobs did the presentation it would be horrible. I'll give you a preview:

"Mmmmm. Rawrrrrr. Brainssss."

Re:meh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314029)

thanks for demonstrating what a joke slashdot moderation is

Re:meh (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314093)

yes, because the fact that a great number of people don't care at all what Apple does would never be allowed to surface in a properly moderated system.

Re:meh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314117)

Oh nos...!! Somebody modded an insightful comment as "insightful" and fanbois start throwing toys out of pram on slashdot. Who woulda thunk?

Re:meh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314241)

Seriously, if you think "meh whatever" is insightful commentary on any topic, you brain has become pond-scum. Good luck in your future minimum wage endeavors.

Re:meh (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314293)

I think you're confusing "inciteful" and "insightful" again.

Re:meh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314407)

I'm sure I'll get modded up for this, but, I just ordered mine!

Re:meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314411)

There was already an apple conference today. I think one joke per day is enough, wouldn't you agree?

Re:meh (3, Insightful)

ModernGeek (601932) | about 2 years ago | (#41314067)

I don't even want it. What's wrong with me?!

Re:meh (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314161)

"What's wrong with me?!"

A lot of things. You go for functionality over fashion accessories. You go against the herd mentality by not letting others decide what's good for you. You are showing clear signs of a cognitive person and that's now allowed in the era where everybody is supposed to suck Steve Jobs' dick (even a dead one).

This clearly makes you a sociopath. Ask any Apple fanboy.

Re:meh (2, Insightful)

desdinova 216 (2000908) | about 2 years ago | (#41314287)

nothing.

Re:meh (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314111)

3G worldphone, LTE, and decent battery life. This is actually impressive, though we've been waiting 2 years for it.

If it let you out of the Apple sandbox if you wanted, then it would be the best smartphone by far. But that sandbox is a major detractor.

Re:meh (5, Informative)

Moheeheeko (1682914) | about 2 years ago | (#41314165)

LTE = Incoming Samsung Lawsuit.

Re:meh (5, Funny)

basscomm (122302) | about 2 years ago | (#41314463)

LTE = Incoming Samsung Lawsuit.

Wow, I totally had that initialism wrong.

Re:meh (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314249)

If you are waiting for something for 2 years, and the competitors are already offering it, it's not impressive, but just about caching up with competition.

Re:meh (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314125)

Statistics statistics glass-and-aluminum percentages statistics percentage increase percentage increase percentage thinner one feature all other modern phones have had for a year or so now statistics statistics percentages.

Woo. That's an earth-shattering product announcement they've got there. Boy howdy. And presented with all the sheer excitement of a PowerPoint slideshow presenting the last quarter's sales percentages. Incredible amazement, here. Sure does make me think Apple's innovative and special.

Looks nice so far (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314001)

Looks nice so far. I'm glad that it has just a slightly larger size and not something ridiculous like some of the Android phones.

Re:Looks nice so far (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314021)

yes, when you only get one choice it's nice if it aligns somewhat with your preferences.

don't know what those silly Android folks are thinking with making lots of different styles and shapes. how does anyone know what they are supposed to want?

Re:Looks nice so far (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314107)

It's simple really, iPhones are for skinny people who wear tight pants in order show off their junk. Droids are for IT fatboys who still wear cargo pants.

Oh yeah?? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314031)

But but, Steve Jesus Jobs said "3.5 inch was the MOST PERFECT EVAAAR phone size"... and all you fanbois were falling over each other bashing Samsung and Android for large screen size. whatever happened to that????

Re:Looks nice so far (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314075)

Looks nice so far. I'm glad that it has just a slightly larger size and not something ridiculous like some of the Android phones.

Nice ? Lol.
No it is not nice. The screen proportions are completely out of whack.
The Galaxy s3's screen is way way better than the iphone's 5 screen.
If you increase the screen height, you have to increase also the screen width. Apple did only one of those, and the phone will feel terribly in your hands. People were complaining about how the s3 was so lightweight, well the iphone 5 is even more lightweight. Sneeze and it will break.
iPhone 5 is like new Coke. Shit. Stay on the iPhone 4s.

Every time... (0, Offtopic)

Bogtha (906264) | about 2 years ago | (#41314009)

Look, the guy's on stage halfway through the presentation. There will undoubtedly be more announced than what's been mentioned so far. What's the point in publishing half a story? Just wait half an hour for them to get through the presentation and then publish the story when you actually have the full story.

Re:Every time... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314035)

This. Slashdot stories are frequently months or even years after the event. Why the sudden urgency?

Not unusual or new for Slashdot (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41314101)

Slashdot stories are frequently months or even years after the event. Why the sudden urgency?

Its not "sudden urgency." Slashdot stories are also frequently during the event, too.

Slashdot is remarkably inconsistent in terms of the timing, quality, and viewpoint of stories. But there is nothing new about this, or unusual about this story in that regard; it falls well within Slashdot's usual range of variation.

Re:Every time... (-1, Offtopic)

WiiVault (1039946) | about 2 years ago | (#41314069)

Agreed. Slashdot loves to do this, in a desperate attempt to seem up to the minute and hip. Instead it just becomes a cluster-f of posts that become outdated the moment they are posted as new info comes out.

demographic? (0)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 years ago | (#41314019)

"68% tablet market share for the iPad, and says iPads account for 91% of tablet-based web traffic"
i am sure its for productive content creation ;)

post-PC world you can't code on ios and the scree (4, Insightful)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#41314033)

post-PC world you can't code on ios and the screen is to small to do big typing / excel type work.

Re: post-PC world you can't code on ios and the sc (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314127)

Sorry, not trying to be fanboi like, but BULLSHIT.

Coding apps are available on iOS. Is it the perfect screen? Fuck no. But at least try not to lie. Or go Republican...then we expect lying.

Re: post-PC world you can't code on ios and the sc (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314417)

Sorry, not trying to be fanboi like, but BULLSHIT.

Coding apps are available on iOS. Is it the perfect screen? Fuck no. But at least try not to lie. Or go Republican...then we expect lying.

I believe he meant that it isn't feasible to code on ios and, even if it is, i seriously wonder why you would ever want to do that.

your UID is safe (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 years ago | (#41314047)

"Rob Murray from EA"

Something shiny! (0, Flamebait)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41314053)

Something shiny! It has an apple logo.

It has a 16x9 ratio. It has 4Glte. Apple invented these things things, do you hear me!!!!!!!

Um, it's a phone okay? It's a little better than what came before it. It's not going to change your life, get you laid or anything else. It's just a phone with a proprietary connector and a proprietary app store. Some people like how it's made, they will buy it. Some people don't, they will buy something else. It's really not a big deal

Re:Something shiny! (5, Funny)

khr (708262) | about 2 years ago | (#41314181)

It's not going to change your life, get you laid

You don't know my wife...

Re:Something shiny! (3, Funny)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41314469)

I must concede your point. If your married and your spouse happens to like these shiny toys and you get them one, it just might get you get you laid after all.

Re:Something shiny! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314317)

Apple doesn't general do "firsts", but they are the king at "The first X that doesn't suck"

The original iphone was criticized for not having 3g. At the time 3g was not widely available, and all of the 3g chips were power hogging monsters. All of the first 3g phones sucked.

I've got a 4 and I'm pretty damn happy with it. The 5 looks like a pretty good evolutionary improvement and I might pick it up. (The 4s was not enough of an improvement for me to shell out the extra $)

I've been seriously looking at a new andriod too. The S3 and the HTC X one are amazing devices with lots of great features.. But neither ship with andriod 4.1.
That's the problem. Do I get an andriod with really cool bells and whistles? Or an iphone that has a slick, long term reliable end user experience that I'm used to. I know if I pick the 5 all of my apps, music, messages, mail, everything will carry over flawlessly. Just like with my 4.. And my 3g before it.. I've still got the same music library, apps, and email settings carried all the way from my original iphone and that's damn awesome.

Compared to 128x768 on the new BlackBerry (1, Interesting)

accessbob (962147) | about 2 years ago | (#41314055)

Not exactly awe inspiring Apple, is it? http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/16/rim-standard-resolutions-bb10/ [engadget.com]

Or even 1280x768 on the new BlackBerry (4, Funny)

accessbob (962147) | about 2 years ago | (#41314119)

I blame my Mac keyboard, it knows what I'm typing...

Still not HD? (0, Flamebait)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41314061)

For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.

Re:Still not HD? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314129)

For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.

Samsung must be laughing their asses off.
Galaxy s3 all the way baby, the iPhone 5 is a lemon.

Re:Still not HD? (1)

RockClimbingFool (692426) | about 2 years ago | (#41314297)

I am pretty happy with my HTC One X on AT&T for $100. The SG3 and One X are pretty close, but $200 vs. $100 make it a no brainer.

Re:Still not HD? (4, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#41314145)

For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.

HD on a 4 inch screen is like expecting Klipsch loudspeaker performance from a pair of ear buds. Now I'm not saying everyone will have the same experience, but I'm already wearing reading glasses (began at the ripe old age of 28) and am happy to be able to focus on anything within 2 feet, I'm not about to care about HD on a puny display.

"What's that little white blur?"

"That's the opposing team quarterback.

Re:Still not HD? (4, Funny)

0123456 (636235) | about 2 years ago | (#41314265)

What's the problem? You just attach a big magnifying glass in front of the screen, like 'Brazil'.

Re:Still not HD? (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41314365)

Get contacts or have your eyes fixed.

HD on a 4" screen is great for me.

Re:Still not HD? (3, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | about 2 years ago | (#41314159)

Thats why the rush of suing Samsung to ban their phone or whatever one that could put a shadow over their new one.

Re:Still not HD? (4, Informative)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 2 years ago | (#41314243)

To be fair, the GS3 was released only 3 months ago. I don't know if it would be possible for them to adjust their design in the time between the specs for GS3 being released and their production needing to start. Now not competing with the display on the Galaxy Nexus (also a full 720p display and released 9 months ago)... that's a bit harder to understand.

Since when? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314253)

For a company that wants to be seen as being on the leading edge they could have at least tried competing with the GS3.

leading edge of what?

Apple since their inception has been about bringing computing to the masses. It's been about making user interfaces more intuitive. It's also been about design.

I have never ever seen anything from Apple where they wanted their products to be leading edge in technology.

Re:Since when? (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41314341)

They got rid of PS2, they killed off the floppy, they are pushing thunderbolt foward.

That all seems pretty leading edge to me.

Re:Still not HD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314421)

The worst part is the new iPhone being thinner, and taller, now looks far more like the Samsung Galaxy SII than any Samsung phone ever did the iPhone. They've basically copied it's size and shape exactly judging by the pictures coming from the press conference.

Yawn (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314073)

iPhone whatever...but will it blend?

monopoly (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314083)

Will Apple be forced to allow iPad owners to install whatever software they want, even if it's not distributed through the App Store?

Re:monopoly (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | about 2 years ago | (#41314427)

I install software without going through the App Store. And I don't own a jailbroken device.

But I am sure Apple will be right behind Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony on that feature.

Apple can't use LTE (5, Interesting)

meridien (718383) | about 2 years ago | (#41314085)

Where are the lawyers from Samsung when you need them?

Re:Apple can't use LTE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314185)

Samsung - and possibly Google themselves (picture while video anyone?)

Re: Where are the lawyers from Samsung? (5, Insightful)

accessbob (962147) | about 2 years ago | (#41314221)

Filing papers in court I suspect.

Re:Apple can't use LTE (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314233)

They are on their way, considering Samsung holds over 800 LTE patents.

Re:Apple can't use LTE (1)

cplusplus (782679) | about 2 years ago | (#41314247)

Where are the lawyers from Samsung when you need them?

At a courthouse, filing a lawsuit as I type this, that will seek an injunction barring the import of the new iPhone 5?

Re:Apple can't use LTE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314467)

Where are the lawyers from Samsung when you need them?
Probably enjoying a few drinks with the lawyers from HTC [bloomberg.com] before preparing for courtroom battle.

OK, place your bets (-1, Flamebait)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#41314095)

How long before we here of the first major defect? Antenna, battery, something else.

Re:OK, place your bets (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 2 years ago | (#41314167)

The 3 fingered iPhone 5 grip?

Re:OK, place your bets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314229)

Care to name one on the 4S?

Remember CmdrTaco's story for the first iPhone? (-1, Offtopic)

Meshach (578918) | about 2 years ago | (#41314105)

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. [slashdot.org]

Seems to still apply here.

Re:Remember CmdrTaco's story for the first iPhone? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314201)

The first iPhone didn't have wireless? Man, that's a crappy cell phone. How far we've come since those salad days of non-wireless mobile communications.

Re:Remember CmdrTaco's story for the first iPhone? (5, Informative)

sconeu (64226) | about 2 years ago | (#41314267)

No, I don't remember that. Because it was CmdrTaco's story for the first iPod.

Post-PC world? (3, Insightful)

theswimmingbird (1746180) | about 2 years ago | (#41314121)

What kills me is that people are going to eat that shit up. They don't realize that they hold a PC in their hand which just so happens to have a phone app. My first computer had an AMD k6-2 300mhz processor (I'm 22, see UID), and I was astounded when I realized my OG Droid had double the compute power. It only took a decade for that to go from being the latest and greatest to being in the palm of your hand being used for fart apps. Tegra games already rival the current-gen consoles in terms of graphics.

PCs aren't dead, they're better than they ever have been before.

In other news, Steve Jobs shits his grave knowing his precious screens are used to display black bars.

Re:Post-PC world? (3, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41314323)

PCs have always been general purpose computers. The iPhone is not.

Re:Post-PC world? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314355)

Post email world called... wants to know if we are post posting things

An innovative 5th row of icons (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314131)

My T-Mobile G1 has 5 rows of icons. I expect Apple will sue HTC and win over this innovation that HTC obviously stole years ago.

A what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314147)

What's an iPhone?

Election year in the USA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314157)

Same Old shit from everyone in your country this year, you guys should really be sad for the state of your union...

Why the weird screen resolution? (3, Insightful)

JDG1980 (2438906) | about 2 years ago | (#41314163)

1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions. I had expected it to be 1440x960 (3x the original iPhone resolution) so that they could keep using the existing Retina Display features, which use simple pixel doubling for noncompliant apps. But what are they going for with this?

Same 640 pixel width (5, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#41314271)

1136x640? What kind of crack-smoking resolution is that? It's not any kind of standard and it isn't an integer multiple of the existing iPhone resolutions.

It's an exact 1x the 640 pixel width of the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPod touch 4. As I understand the summary, retina apps will look the same, just with borders on the top and bottom.

Re:Same 640 pixel width (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314433)

Wow, letterboxing? Really? Really? Did Apple just never learn how to make an API for UI elements that doesn't suck? No, that's not right, Cocoa was fine; they must have just reinvented the wheel for iOS, poorly.

Seriously, when I run an Android app on a device with a different screen resolution, it just works. It's almost as if they designed for the idea that not every device would have exactly the same screen! I wonder how they realized that so far in advance! How did nobody ever think of that befo... oh, wait, no, every damn UI design for the desktop has realized this since back when a "phone" was that thing tied to a jack on the wall with a length of copper cable.

Re:Why the weird screen resolution? (1)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about 2 years ago | (#41314299)

The rationale is that they didn't want to increase the width of the phone. With the weird resolution, they only increased the height, so it fits in your hand the same, the interface is the same except with an additional row of apps, and they simply center apps that are not made for that resolution instead of scaling them.

Re:Why the weird screen resolution? (5, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | about 2 years ago | (#41314309)

It sounds like they wanted to keep the same width and just make it taller until it got to 16:9.

Re:Why the weird screen resolution? (1)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#41314435)

It allows to use the same displays as those manufactured for the iPhone 4's retina display, cut a bit longer. The cost overhead is likely very low as a result. Also, it allows older apps to run without any updates.

huh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314177)

Same Same...Even Apple cannot keep underwhelming everyone like this and expect results.

C'mon apple.. WOW us. (1)

ruckerz2k (653900) | about 2 years ago | (#41314237)

Don't tell me what new (technical features) your product has.. tell me how it's going to change how I think about mobile communication.

"Yes, we are in a post-PC world." (2)

swan5566 (1771176) | about 2 years ago | (#41314255)

These sorts of statements are so over-the-top. No ipad is going to replace my desktop at work, nor my gaming laptop at home. Apple's success in the last decade has been in part by doubling-down on particular demographics, but notions like these seem to suggest that Apple's success might clouding their perception a tad.

I don't want an iphone (1)

ThorGod (456163) | about 2 years ago | (#41314327)

At least not at the moment. But I do want to hear about Apple's *other new hardware*, assuming any exists...

Re:I don't want an iphone (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | about 2 years ago | (#41314403)

Well you likely won't see it today. No way Apple will toss out a new Mini iPad or anything else that could steal the thunder and hype from this announcement. Perhaps early October?

Math fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314357)

Since when is 1136x640 a 16:9 ratio?

But Apple fans told me 16:9 sucked... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314387)

I would say I wonder how they're going to resolve that, but I'm sure it'll be the same as the last half-dozen things that were superfluous when the rest of the industry had them, but became must-have features when Apple finally caught up.

Lest we forget... 100ppi optimal resolution [archive.org]

Meh (3, Insightful)

JDG1980 (2438906) | about 2 years ago | (#41314391)

The iPhone has been falling behind in the past year or so. Competitors now have better hardware and an equally good user experience. This is why Apple has been resorting to lawsuits: in the phone arena, they face the real prospect of losing serious market share to Samsung. The Galaxy S III is competitive with even the iPhone 5 (though its app ecosystem may not be quite as good) and the Galaxy Note is far superior to the Apple phones.

On the tablet side of things, Apple is faring better. There is still no serious Android competitor to the new iPad, with its unparalleled 2048x1536 display. Android fans usually try to respond by telling me that I don't really need a high-res display. This is a losing argument – once you've seen the new iPad in action, low-resolution tablets look crude in comparison. It really makes a huge difference, especially when reading PDFs and web pages zoomed out. None of the competing 10" tablets come close to the iPad's market share. The smaller, cheaper tablets (Nexus 7, Kindle Fire) are indeed cutting into Apple's business, but they apparently have an iPad Mini prepped and ready to go to compete there. If rumors are accurate and it goes for $249 or so, then it's going to get a lot of purchases. On the other hand, it's hard to say how many will be taken from Google and Amazon, and how many will be cannibalized from sales of the full-size (and presumably more profitable) iPad.

I'm hoping that Samsung's next Galaxy Note tablet will have a Retina-equivalent display. If they can do that and keep the price at $499 to open (like Apple did), then they will have a real competitor on their hands. I'd seriously consider buying one.

Rounded corners! Rectangular Design! (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about 2 years ago | (#41314399)

...Oh, wait.. forget it.

not impressed? (1, Insightful)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | about 2 years ago | (#41314445)

just FYI the "I'm not impressed with the iPhone 5" people are being just as histrionic as the fanbois this time around.

Lightning (2)

P-niiice (1703362) | about 2 years ago | (#41314457)

The connector is called Lightning. ahahaha. What's the headphone jack called when it gets an upgrade?

Re:Lightning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314513)

Thunder, obviously.

The best part is the time travel app (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 2 years ago | (#41314525)

The part I like the best about the iPhone 5 is the new time travel app, that lets you skip back in time a preset duration, ranging from 10 seconds to 1 day.

Helped me avoid all the lines by allowing me to walk into the shipping rooms through a door using a double time skip sequence to avoid the guards.

post-PC world (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41314547)

Tim Cook spoke earlier about the iPad, making some interesting claims: "Yes, we are in a post-PC world."

But we are still in the handcuff world. We need free software and an open access wireless last mile. The telco's are taking away Internet rights. We need many ISP's competing before there can be capitalism, right now we are still in a futile age of Internet access.

Some Telco guy will mod this down, so I am not putting my name on it.

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