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Black Mesa Released

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the and-so-soon dept.

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ProbablyJoe writes "The long awaited Source engine remake of the Valve's original Half Life has finally been released. The initial release only includes the story up until Xen, but the developers say they'll be adding the rest of the story, along with an online multiplayer Deathmatch mode, soon. The game is available to download for free, and only requires players to install the Source SDK (included with all Source games, or a free download). The highly anticipated release has also caused a huge amount of traffic for any servers hosting the files, with GameFront, GameUpdates, and Black Mesa's own CDN brought down within minutes of the release. The project has also been approved by Steam's Greenlight program, and will hopefully be available through Steam soon, though no timeframe has been given."

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130 comments

BEST GAME EVER (5, Insightful)

Bodhammer (559311) | about 2 years ago | (#41336241)

Thank you Black Mesa Team!

Re:BEST GAME EVER (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336287)

Why are you taking them? They didn't make Deus Ex. You should be thanking Ion Storm Dallas.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

ionymous (1216224) | about 2 years ago | (#41336483)

Why do you think he's taking them?

Re:BEST GAME EVER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337651)

He's thanking the people who did the conversion work. If he were to thank the maker of the game it'd be VALVe not Ion Storm Dallas.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337735)

Valve didn't make Deus Ex, which is the best game ever.

TFC: Black Mesa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336709)

Seeing that TFC came out a little after the original Half-Life, I wonder whether there will be a Source port of TFC. Like Fortress Forever but without the bugs and the developers changing the gameplay every week and mistakenly make some classes MUCH stronger than others.

Re:TFC: Black Mesa? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41337455)

We have that. It's called TF2 [teamfortress.com] , and it's even free!

Re:TFC: Black Mesa? (2)

VGPowerlord (621254) | about 2 years ago | (#41337867)

Seeing that TFC came out a little after the original Half-Life, I wonder whether there will be a Source port of TFC. Like Fortress Forever but without the bugs and the developers changing the gameplay every week and mistakenly make some classes MUCH stronger than others.

Why wouldn't they just port TF1 rather than TFC if they're going to redo everything anyway?

Then again, both a TF1 or TFC remake would have to compete against the juggernaut that is TF2.

Incidentally, TF2 has one of the problems that you complain about... constantly changing the gameplay. Yet that's what's kept it interesting over the last 5 years: TF2 currently has 10 game modes across 57 official maps (and all sorts of custom maps) and a wide variety of alternate play styles based on being able to swap out your weapons in the respawn room. The stock weapons are generally the most powerful with 4 major exceptions I can think of: Pyro's Flamethrower is inferior to the Rainblower or Degreaser; Pyro's Fire Ax is inferior to the Axtinguisher; Medic's Bonesaw is inferior to the Ubersaw, Amputator, or Solemn Vow; Soldier's Shovel is inferior to the Escape Plan, Equalizer, or Discliplinary Action.

Granted, the last major TF2 update basically added a Killing Floor mode to the game... but it needs special servers to run it since it's restricted to 6 players instead of the usual 24-32.

(Psst, TF2 is free [teamfortress.com] btw if you haven't tried it... you just need a Steam account)

Re:TFC: Black Mesa? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41339057)

Yeah, I tried it a few years ago and hate it. TF2 is retarded. No grenades, everyone's slowed down, the game has achievements, it has this stupid comic book theme to it, etc. They gave in to the kiddie noobs' complaints about TFC. What happened to conc jumping, bunnyhopping, EMPs, etc.? And sentry "sapping" is just stupid. One thing that Fortress Forever got right was adding trimping, conc holding (which only half exists in TFC), and really fast scouts.

I should have been more clear about the gameplay. For instance, they keep talking about nerfing the pyro. But they just buffed the medic's nailgun. The medic can be at near point blank with a HWGuy, so EVERYONE plays medic now. This is the problem when you have a fan-based game developed by people who don't see the big picture. The original TFC devs got the game just about right on the first try, and the FF devs have been messing up the gameplay for years now.

captcha: irately ;)

Re:BEST GAME EVER (2)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41337019)

I still don't understand what was wrong with the original Half-Life? I'd love to play a fan made episode of Half-Life, but if I want to play Half-Life itself, it works great in Wine.

Is anyone else sick of remakes? Fan made or official, I don't care. Try something new!

Re:BEST GAME EVER (3, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41337169)

I still don't understand what was wrong with the original Half-Life?

The graphics are 14 years old. If you're sick of the remake, just don't play it. It's not like anyone is forcing you to, or even charging you money if you actually do want to. If people want to spend their time upgrading a 14 year old game that they really love because they think it would be even better with modern(ish) graphics, they can. And for the people doing so, it serves as a nice resume builder as well, whereas making their own game would probably not receive nearly so much press and would therefore be far less impressive.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (2)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41337399)

The graphics are 14 years old.

And? Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Earring is over 300 years old. Great works of art don't become less beautiful because they are old.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41337479)

You might have a point if Girl with a Pearl Earring was a cave drawing.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (2)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41337671)

The graphics are 14 years old.

And? Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Earring is over 300 years old. Great works of art don't become less beautiful because they are old.

Video games do. Well, technically they were ugly to begin with, we just didn't notice because it was the best we had (and usually better than what came before). The graphics, mind you, not the gameplay.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#41338931)

Video games do. Well, technically they were ugly to begin with, we just didn't notice because it was the best we had (and usually better than what came before). The graphics, mind you, not the gameplay.

Not to mention they aged because we aren't playing on 640x480 screens anymore - people are rocking laptops with 2880x1800 screen resolutions (or tablets with 2560x1536). Or even just 1080p or 1920x1200. What looked good at VGA tends to look just terrible at the higher resolutions everyone runs at.

It's effectively going from standard-def to high-def.

Half Life's just one of those games that people like well enough to do a proper conversion.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338127)

lol, your're a fucking faggot reading little girl shit like that

Don't care if the graphics are 20 years old. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337457)

If I want a picture, I'd get a picture.

HL was a good game because the game was good, not because it was purty.

The OP wasn't telling you to be sick of remakes. If you like remakes, then feel free, it's not like anyone is forcing you not to, or even suing you for damages to their psyche. If people want to spend their time playing a 14 year old game that they really love rather than put up with yet more Steam crap, they can. And for the people doing so, it serves as a homage to the perfection of the original, whereas making yet another Steamer would probably not be seen as anything other than a remake rip-off and therefore be far less impressive.

Re:Don't care if the graphics are 20 years old. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337795)

Half-Life was one of the worst games I have ever played. Anyone who thinks it's good really didn't play many games.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337319)

While i somewhat share your dislike of remakes in general, i don't think it's appropriate here.

Not everyone already played the original, and a younger generation is less likely to pickup an older game if it "looks like shit". An almost identical version of the game is likely to still contain every element that made half-life great, and with fancier graphics that means it will be seen as "might be worth checking out" instead of "ugly shit, pass, i'll continue to play modern warfare 15 instead".

Second, many people who loved half-life, reinstall it every so often and give it another play, but eventually that dies down (it did for me, and i'm sure i'm not alone). Black Mesa is a good excuse to give it another shot, and with improved graphics and the like, we might even run into some stuff we missed before.

Third, it's free. While i oppose people who consider there to be a no-complaints policy for everything that's free, you can't ignore it either. It's an impressive game (from what i can tell, i haven't played it yet) and for every steam gamer out there it's just one click away.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41337503)

Next up? Can we get Blue Shift? Opposing Force? :D

This is going to make me go install those again, I guarantee it.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338965)

I share your feelings about the necessity of remakes, but in the specific case of HL, there are some people who can't play the original. If you look through the forums, you'll see problems with people who can't play the original HL because of weird incompatibility issues related to its age, or who become literally nauseated with the original HL but not modern Steam engine games.

For some people, Black Mesa is an opportunity to play through HL when they can't play the original.

My ultimate feeling about this is, whatever floats people's boats is fine with me. There's good things about playing the original, there's good things about a clean faithful renovation too.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41339649)

you'll see problems with people who can't play the original HL because of weird incompatibility issues related to its age

That's funny. Just the other day people were saying that the big problem with Linux as a platform was constant breakage of backwards compatibility. But Half-Life works perfectly on Wine to this day.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (1)

olau (314197) | about 2 years ago | (#41339239)

I'm way behind of games but actually tried Half-Life 2 not long ago and was duly impressed. Then tried Half-Life to get the full story - but Half-Life does feel really icky to play today.

I think it makes a lot of sense to take puzzle elements and story from Half-Life and bring everything up to the same quality level as Half-Life 2. And while graphics and sound are a big part of it, it's not all. The surroundings in Half-Life 1 are much more static in some way, it's less immersive.

Re:BEST GAME EVER (0)

ChodaBoyUSA (2532764) | about 2 years ago | (#41337267)

At least get the quote right. "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Please (4, Funny)

davewoods (2450314) | about 2 years ago | (#41336281)

No crowbar nerf.

Re:Please (2)

virgnarus (1949790) | about 2 years ago | (#41336855)

They need to preserve the glitch where your crowbar gets stuck in animation and hits the enemy a million times a second.

...Black Mesa? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336283)

That was a joke.

Ha ha.

Fat chance.

(Anyway, this cake is great....)

Re:...Black Mesa? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336611)

jeez...mod parent funny

Re:...Black Mesa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337855)

Why? It's not funny...at all.

Regurgitating shit other people came up with is never funny.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41338403)

It's not shit other people came up with.

It's a quote right out of Portal 2.

Re:...Black Mesa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338449)

And I suppose Portal 2 wasn't made by people and just spontaneously appeared out of thin air.

You are a fucking moron.

Re:...Black Mesa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338725)

It's a quote right out of Portal 2

The song was written by Jonathan Coulton. And it was at the end of Portal, not Portal 2.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41339203)

Eh? This was in dialog, in the middle somewhere. Not in the credits.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | about 2 years ago | (#41339639)

Eh? This was in dialog, in the middle somewhere. Not in the credits.

No, it's in the Portal 1 end credits song Still Alive, and it's the only place in the game Black Mesa is mentioned by GLaDOS.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

dywolf (2673597) | about 2 years ago | (#41339085)

your life must be so boring.

Re:...Black Mesa? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41339333)

Yes, it's so boring because I come up with my own ideas and jokes instead of biting off of others and repeating the same tired shit over and over like you do.

Re:...Black Mesa? (5, Funny)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about 2 years ago | (#41336979)

You know what Gordon Freeman would say to that?

Would you?

He would probably say something along the lines of:

"..."

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

viking099 (70446) | about 2 years ago | (#41337429)

He and Chelle would be amazing on a date, wouldn't they?

I guess they'd communicate by jumping or something?

Re:...Black Mesa? (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41337523)

Hmm. A quiet internalizer who solves problems with a crowbar, and a mute with a minor case of serious brain damage?

I'm sensing a substory here...

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

r1348 (2567295) | about 2 years ago | (#41337899)

I'm sensing badly written erotic fanfiction, that then will be made into a book avoiding copyright mess by changing the characters name, will be a huge success among frustrated housewives and then movies.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41337967)

I was thinking more along the lines of an abusive relationship, myself. Since I have to go explaining it now :P

eg Gordon brains Chelle with the crowbar.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

r1348 (2567295) | about 2 years ago | (#41339067)

"50 shades of crowbar"

The least subtle title ever conceived.

Re:...Black Mesa? (1)

trytoguess (875793) | about 2 years ago | (#41339769)

Both Gordon and Chelle communicate through their actions. Make of that what you will.

In pieces (5, Funny)

Tarlus (1000874) | about 2 years ago | (#41336329)

The initial release only includes the story up until Xen, but the developers say they'll be adding the rest of the story, along with an online multiplayer Deathmatch mode, soon.

More episodic releases in the Half Life universe? NOOOOO!!!

Re:In pieces (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336813)

To be honest? I won't miss the Xen 'episode' anyway. It just wasn't that great.

Re:In pieces (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337393)

To be honest? I won't miss the Xen 'episode' anyway. It just wasn't that great.

Xen was the worst part of the game, there's a reason why the TV Tropes entry "Disappointing Last Level" was originally called "Xen Syndrome."

Re:In pieces (1)

Kaptain Kruton (854928) | about 2 years ago | (#41339195)

I think I read somewhere that they were going to improve the upon the original version's Xen chapter... which would explain why they are delaying it.

Re:In pieces (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | about 2 years ago | (#41337811)

Soon means within three years. Black Mesa time is almost worse than Valve time

Xen (2)

Andrio (2580551) | about 2 years ago | (#41336331)

Based on the development time of this, the Xen levels will take about two years.

But I'm not complaining, no one liked Xen anyway. Thank you, guys!

Re:Xen (1)

somersault (912633) | about 2 years ago | (#41336685)

I liked Xen :)

Re:Xen (1)

Fast Thick Pants (1081517) | about 2 years ago | (#41338337)

Me too, except for the stupid jumping bit. The levels and puzzles didn't make much sense plotwise, but I loved the design. Very Louise Bourgeois.

Re:Xen (1)

antdude (79039) | about 2 years ago | (#41339327)

I wonder what happens at the end of this one without Xen levels. Does it say "To be continued"? I didn't like Xen levels, but I want to replay the whole HL1 game with this Black Mesa including its lame Xen levels. I will wait until Black Mesa is finished and worked out its bugs.

Godammit. (5, Funny)

jiteo (964572) | about 2 years ago | (#41336335)

I have classes to study for and clients to work for, this is NOT a good time.

Re:Godammit. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336775)

I know I'm starting to feel the need for an early Friday already.

Bad preparation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336777)

Stop complaining, you've had about eight years to plan for this release! :-)

Use the Torrent link! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336449)

And share some bandwidth :-)

Re:Use the Torrent link! (1)

repvik (96666) | about 2 years ago | (#41337195)

Currently sharing at 140mbit. Now, if I could only get more than 20mbit down, it'd be awesome.

Re:Use the Torrent link! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337925)

Stop whining.

Another mirror (4, Informative)

maswan (106561) | about 2 years ago | (#41336461)

Over here: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/misc/BlackMesa/ [acc.umu.se]

Mostly used to hosting linux distributions, but this looks like someone might care to download too. Go ahead and eat a few gigabit/s for us. :)

Is this the real one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336545)

The BM:S site says 3.8 GB, the one in your link is 3.0 GB.... ???

Re:Is this the real one? (1)

Kenja (541830) | about 2 years ago | (#41336645)

I assume 3.8GB installed. The torrent is a setup program and a 7z compressed 3.07GB file.

Re:Is this the real one? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41338533)

7.2gb installed.

Did they perhaps recompress the 7z archive to shave off that ~ 800mb then?

Re:Is this the real one? (1)

maswan (106561) | about 2 years ago | (#41336669)

It's what is in the official torrent. My torrent client says 3146.1 MB.

It's legit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336741)

I'm the doubting GP, and I've just confirmed that the torrent is indeed the same as the one on the BM:S site. Thanks for posting it here!

Re:Is this the real one? (1)

Jamu (852752) | about 2 years ago | (#41338177)

Anyone have cryptographic hash codes for those two files?

Re:Another mirror (1)

popoutman (189497) | about 2 years ago | (#41336623)

Many thanks. I'm getting ~300 KB/sec on a 100MBit connection here at work.. Pity that running torrents in the office is a firing offence here, otherwise I'd be on top of the torrent and re-sharing.

Re:Another mirror (1)

kav2k (1545689) | about 2 years ago | (#41336977)

+1 Thoughtful
Your (non-Slashdot) karma just got noticeably better.

Re:Another mirror (1)

boast (1227952) | about 2 years ago | (#41337151)

3Mbps+ Awesome!!!

Needs Steam (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336481)

That's one thing that was better in the original version...

Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336499)

They are distributing a large software file to a large number of people all at once and not using BitTorrent? Dumb. Just...dumb.

Apropos captcha: amateurs

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (2)

wolrahnaes (632574) | about 2 years ago | (#41336539)

They do have a torrent, just they hosted the tracker on GameUpdates which pretty much crumbled under the weight. Why they didn't use one of the many public open high-capacity trackers I do not know.

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (1)

kav2k (1545689) | about 2 years ago | (#41337095)

It is beyond reason why they set a private flag.
DHT would handle it just perfectly, but now a torrent is brought down because trackers can't cope.

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (4, Informative)

dopaz (148229) | about 2 years ago | (#41336547)

There's a torrent link on the official Black Mesa site, it points to:

http://www.mediafire.com/?khmzyygg4vetko0 [mediafire.com]

I'm downloading it now, Black Mesa team says "Please seed!"

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336957)

I'm going to seed this like a mofo on my gig connection to help out. I recommend others do the same.

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337561)

I have a 1 gigabit connection seeding to this torrent, you are all welcome, I will gladly utilize all 12TB of my upload bandwidth to share this with you at the fastest speeds possible.

Re:Seems like a perfect application for BitTorrent (2)

ideonexus (1257332) | about 2 years ago | (#41337833)

The fact that all the direct download links appear to be overrun, but the Torrent works fine is a strong argument for why Torrenting isn't in and of itself piracy.

Torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41336609)

This is the torrent that Mediaupdates would link to, if it were up:
http://www.mediafire.com/?khmzyygg4vetko0

First Diaspora and now Black Mesa... (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | about 2 years ago | (#41336787)

Projects I honestly thought would ever see release. It's been a good past 10 days or so for fan made games.

Is Steam itself required? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 2 years ago | (#41336953)

and only requires players to install the Source SDK (included with all Source games, or a free download)

I followed the link for the free download only to find a link to steam://run/211 [steam] . Can I install the SDK without also installing Steam?

Re:Is Steam itself required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337193)

No unless someone releases a updated/cracked Source SDK to some torrent site. I know steam is scary and confusing but I believe in you! Go download it.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 2 years ago | (#41337339)

I know steam is scary and confusing but I believe in you!

:D Just trying to minimise my drive usage, is all.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (1)

FunPika (1551249) | about 2 years ago | (#41338133)

Steam is only a 1.5MB download (probably a bit more after actually being installed), nothing compared to the disk usage of the Source SDK (I think that is about 1GB) and Black Mesa (about 8GB).

fuck off. no steam. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337521)

why the hell should I want to force even more planned obsalescence on my machine by requiring the completely pointless steam and online registration?

I know that not being told what to do by a corporation is scary and all this freedom confuses you, but I believe you can manage to live a life yourself. Go ahead, throw away the shackles and live your life free of anothers demands on your PC.

Re:fuck off. no steam. (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | about 2 years ago | (#41337977)

Nobody is forcing you to play black Mesa. Don't want it, don't install it.

Re:fuck off. no steam. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338049)

I won't. Valve games are worthless garbage anyhow.

Re:fuck off. no steam. (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | about 2 years ago | (#41338109)

Source is the game engine Steam is integrated with. Why does it surprise you that a game (or mod) made in it requires Steam?

Besides which, Steam has been running for 9 years and is making money hand over fist, I doubt it's going to disappear anytime soon.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41337281)

Unfortunately, no. Not, at least, through any official method (there might be some unofficial workarounds, but those probably technically fall under the realm of "cracks", so use/Google them at your own risk). They needed the SDK installed because that gives the Source engine to modders for free (otherwise it would require a probably rather expensive license to be used standalone).

Re:Is Steam itself required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338013)

It's a broken link. I clicked it and it popped up an error saying "The address type is unknown or unsupported". Valve really should fix that. How embarrassing for them.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41339001)

It works fine, if you have Steam installed and didn't prevent it from registering itself as a URL handler for that protocol.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41339397)

Oh, so you need to have malware/spyware installed. No thanks, I'll pass.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#41339663)

You've got a strange definition of malware/spyware.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41339739)

Yeah, reality can seem strange to people who aren't accustomed to it. Fanboys are often blind to it and make up excuses and defenses to justify artificially necessary things like Steam.

Re:Is Steam itself required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41339961)

Grab a non-Steam infected Source engine game from TPB and copy all of the Black Mesa files into the game directory. I used a pirated copy of Half-Life Source for it.

Comparison to HL2 port from Valve? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41337205)

I thought there was a Half-Live 1 to 2 port from Valve itself. Can anyone comment on how this compares to it (or point out what's different to what can be found on steam?)

And no, I don't have RTFA -- no time right now!

Re:Comparison to HL2 port from Valve? (1)

theswimmingbird (1746180) | about 2 years ago | (#41337433)

This isn't just a port. It's a fully re-envisioned remake utilizing 100% new models, textures, sounds, etc.

Re:Comparison to HL2 port from Valve? (5, Informative)

canajin56 (660655) | about 2 years ago | (#41337673)

Half-Life: Source used all of the same models and maps, but added the physics engine for rag-doll effects, used shaders for improved water effects, had some limited dynamic lighting improvements (I think?), replaced the pre-rendered 16-bit skybox with dynamic effects, and cleaned up the specular/normal maps for better bump mapping and such. That is, it was a port to a new engine, with almost no changes to the content other than the cleaned-up normal maps and the quick switch-out of the skybox. Black Mesa is not a port, but a remake. They redid all of the maps and most of the models that weren't available already as part of HL2, so it takes full advantage of all the new shaders and lighting stuff, and has much higher resolution textures and models.

Re:Comparison to HL2 port from Valve? (1)

Narishma (822073) | about 2 years ago | (#41338779)

This is a remake, not a port like Valve did.

No Mac support? (1)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | about 2 years ago | (#41337949)

I realize :
* this was a lot of work
* it's free
* mac isn't a gaming platform
* I shouldn't complain

But I somehow thought that Black Mesa would run natively on mac since it uses Source. I've been very happy playing Portal/Counter Strike/Half Life 2 on my mac.
Screw it, I might get a PC just to play Half Life again...

Re:No Mac support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41338455)

Macs are for email, twatterdecks and AOL level web browsing.

Re:No Mac support? (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | about 2 years ago | (#41338759)

You can always use bootcamp if need-be.
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