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Apple Confirms iPhone 5 Preorders Top 2 Million In 24 Hours

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the got-to-have-one dept.

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TheBoat writes "Apple announced on Monday that iPhone 5 preorders topped 2 million units in the smartphone's first 24 hours of pre-sale availability. That figure doubles Apple's first-day iPhone 4S sales last year, making the iPhone 5 Apple's fastest-selling smartphone ever. 'iPhone 5 pre-orders have shattered the previous record held by iPhone 4S and the customer response to iPhone 5 has been phenomenal,' Apple marketing boss Philip Schiller said."

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Wow. (2, Insightful)

Theophany (2519296) | about 2 years ago | (#41361797)

Not sure why they're bragging about it, they're way behind the Galaxy S3 on this particular metric.

Not a troll, just interesting to see the enormous difference in preorder sales between two companies that are constantly at each others' throats.

Re:Wow. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361837)

Right but, are we talking about units sold or units shipped. Apple consistently uses units sold to my knowledge, and then after that it's a crapshoot without additional information.

Re:Wow. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361933)

Right but, this article was written by the same guy who yesterday wrote this:

"Well, the only thing even more predictable than response to the iPhone 5 was the fact that preorders would sell out quickly."

Stop letting this asswipe use slashdot to drive hits on his stories.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362113)

so, samsung is shipping phones without selling them, and apple is selling phones, which has not been shipped or produced.

sounds like balance in the eco system.

wake me up, when I can get phone shipped without paying for it!

Re:Wow. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362219)

Ja. "Phones shipped" is a crap metric because a lot of those phones sold just sit on store shelves and don't get sold. "Phones sold" tell you how many are actually being bought an used by consumers.

Ex., the Samsung Galaxy Tab. Before the recent court case, Samsung was reporting Galaxy Tab *shipment in the millions* (or was it tens of millions? I forget). Then the court forced them to report actual sales and it turned out that Samsung had only sold 1.4 million tablets total over 18 months. Apple sold ~30 million iPads over the same period.

If a company says, "we shipped X" but won't report "we sold X," it's probably because most of their gear is gathering dust down at the Best Buy.

Re:Wow. (5, Informative)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | about 2 years ago | (#41361859)

We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.

Re:Wow. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361903)

For some, a lemon is just a sour grape.

Re:Wow. (5, Informative)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about 2 years ago | (#41361925)

We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.

Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57477475-94/samsung-galaxy-s3-hits-10-million-sales-mark-early/ [cnet.com]

Re:Wow. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361955)

Not to point out the obvious, but you do realize that 10 million in 2 months is substantially less than 2 million in 24 hours?

Re:Wow. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362173)

Not to point out the obvious but you do realise they won't sell 2 million every 24 hours henceforth?

Re:Wow. (2)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41362299)

retail release is this friday. they always sell more at retail than online.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362615)

Not to point out the obvious but you do realise they won't sell 2 million every 24 hours henceforth?

No, but looking at 2M selling out in the first 24 hours vs. the iPhone 4s selling out of 1M units in the first 24 hours and I'll bet you can make a better guess at how many will be sold in the next year then anything at the press conference told anyone.

Re:Wow. (1)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | about 2 years ago | (#41361963)

Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.

It was reported as such, which I assume GP was talking about : Samsung S3: 9 million pre-order new Galaxy phone [telegraph.co.uk] .

Re:Wow. (1)

Theophany (2519296) | about 2 years ago | (#41361929)

On the basis that the 4 and 4S came nowhere near 9 million and that it's a well documented phenomenon that the bulk of preorders will hit in the first 48 hours when excitement overrides rational consumerism.

They won't break 9mil. Whatever fruit you want to talk about.

Re:Wow. (5, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 2 years ago | (#41362123)

You're comparing apples and lemons.

Actually, I believe he was comparing apples and samsungs.

Re:Wow. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362613)

Exactly.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362127)

To be fair apple has a big advantage competing in short term with limited reviews and no personal hands on sales. Suckers love an iphone.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361877)

because their profit on their 2 million probably already quadrupled that of Samsung's entire S3 sales.

Re:Wow. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361971)

Yeah, the iphone is a total rip off.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361965)

Way behind? Samsung sold 10 million in 60 days [androidauthority.com] . Apple sold 20% of that number in 1.6% of the time. Not so sure that is way behind..

Re:Wow. (2, Insightful)

Buchenskjoll (762354) | about 2 years ago | (#41362075)

Yeah, and if christmas tree vendors could keep up sales all year it would be a hell of a business.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362295)

You miss the point, which is that Apple is making vastly more profit on far fewer products in much less time.
Ask any CEO which position he'd like to be in based on those criteria.
And if you answer "Samsung," you're being intentionally disingenuous.

Re:Wow. (2)

somersault (912633) | about 2 years ago | (#41361977)

After looking at the specs of the 4S and the 5, I don't understand why anyone would even care about upgrading beyond it being a fashion statement. Especially since it doesn't even fit directly into current iPhone "accessories", which are one of the few real benefits to having an iPod/iPhone.

Re:Wow. (3, Interesting)

MBCook (132727) | about 2 years ago | (#41362111)

Some people will, because they always want the latest and the best. But there are a lot of people like me (with an iPhone 4) or my little sister (who has a 3GS) who are eligible for the full subsidy and for whom it's a major upgrade. For me it's much faster, includes Siri, and a much better camera. For my little sister it's vastly faster, includes a retina display, Siri, a vastly better camera, it's thinner, etc.

Not everyone ordering is coming off a 4S. I'd imagine most are coming from the 4 or below.

Re:Wow. (1)

Sez Zero (586611) | about 2 years ago | (#41362227)

I'd imagine most are coming from the 4 or below.

I've got a iPhone 3G and the 5 is looking like a pretty nice upgrade.

Apple sold about 74 million iPhones by the end of fiscal 2010. I'm sure some have upgraded but a lot of people are probably still carrying around a 3G, 3GS or 4 and are finally ready to upgrade to the latest, with a new service contract.

Re:Wow. (2)

jest3r (458429) | about 2 years ago | (#41362549)

Yes I too still have the 3G (was stuck in a 3-year contract) and just pre-ordered the iPhone 5 which compared to the 3G is going to be a night and day kind of upgrade !!!

I would imagine any legacy customers will using the 3G / 3GS will take the opportunity to upgrade for sure.

Re:Wow. (4, Insightful)

beelsebob (529313) | about 2 years ago | (#41362245)

Probably no one would upgrade from the 4S, even though it does have twice as much RAM, a CPU that's twice as fast, a GPU that's twice as fast, a bigger screen, ...

But upgrades from the 4 or the 3GS... Almost certainly tons of people.

Re:Wow. (1, Insightful)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41362325)

i secretly pre-ordered one for my wife because her 4 is already off contract. she wasn't interested until i told her it has a much better camera especially for low light photos and dedicated CPU space for better photo quality. when you have 2 kids things like this matter. not rooting and tooting and staying up all night getting excited by cryptic commands on a black background

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362641)

> it has dedicated CPU space for better photo quality

I can't tell you how many times I've missed a chance on account of the slow start of the camera. Even with the slide to camera mode, the fucking iris animation freezes the phone for 2-3 seconds.

Real camera manufacturers compete on time from switching on to the first picture.

Re:Wow. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41362475)

I think they are people with iPhone 3 something and less with the iPhone 4. those with the 4S probably are not rushing to upgrade, except for the must have everything new crowd.

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362677)

After looking at the specs of the 4S and the 5, I don't understand why anyone would even care about upgrading beyond it being a fashion statement

Would you be as negative if they were upgrading to a new laptop that only ran twice as fast as the old one?

(My guess is most buyers are from the 4 or 3gs, but that doesn't make it a bad upgrade off of the 4s)

Re:Wow. (1)

mlts (1038732) | about 2 years ago | (#41362679)

I have my upgrade order from a 4 for one simple reason -- a higher storage capacity. iCloud Match is nice, but I end up out in areas where there is EDGE coverage or no coverage, so having music on the device itself is always useful.

Plus, there are some low-level security features which can't hurt. The iPhone 4S and newer use a better salting technique preventing the passcode hash from being copied off [1] (although a four digit PIN copied off will be cracked quickly no matter what [2].)

[1]:http://www.informationweek.com/security/encryption/security-fail-apple-ios-password-manager/232602738 [informationweek.com] is the source for that.

[2]: If you set a password (not a PIN) and use all numbers, when the iPhone asks for the code, it will pull up a numeric keypad, not the complete keyboard. Yes, it might lower security as an attacker knows the PIN is only numbers, but it is a lot easier to enter in the code that way.

Re:Wow. (2)

crmarvin42 (652893) | about 2 years ago | (#41362231)

Do you have a source? I could find no data on 24-hr pre-sale rate for the Galaxy SIII.

I did find the wikipedia page for the Samsung Galaxy S III [wikipedia.org] , which lists 9 million pre-orders from Carriers in the first 2 weeks based on an anonymous Samsung Official. They then compare this to the 4 million pre-sales of the iPhone 4S. I found no citation for the pre-sale rates for iPhone, but the wikipedia page for the iPhone 4S [wikipedia.org] claims 4 million sold (to customers?) in the first 3 days of availability.

Compare that to 2 million in 24-hr for the 5, and I doubt that the iPhone 5 is "way behind the Galaxy S3" as you put it. I think the iPhone 5 is probably doing on par with, or better than the S3. The daily rate of sale will need to drop to something below ((9 million S3 - 2 million 1st day iPhone 5's)/13 days remaining in the 1st two weeks for comparison = 0.538 million/day for the next 13 days to end up below the S3. Now, I don't have any data on how effective first day pre-order sales are at predicting the ultimate sale rate of a device, but suspect that the daily rate of sale is not going to drop by a factor of 4 in such a short period of time.

Re:Wow. (2)

beelsebob (529313) | about 2 years ago | (#41362233)

Uhh no, Samsung quoted "hundreds of thousands" of preorders within the first 24 hours. 9 million in total before it launched.

Samsung (0)

whoosy (2684521) | about 2 years ago | (#41361821)

I can understand why Samsung is launching their attack ads. This is crazy.

How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (5, Funny)

redback (15527) | about 2 years ago | (#41361851)

Re:How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361881)

that is awesome.

Re:How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361923)

I have an iPhone 4S. I'll probably just buy whatever iteration of the iPhone happens to be current when it wears out unless one of the players releases a game-changer . . . .

I'm not convinced that these people who buy the new version every time it comes out are anything other than a vocal minority. I certainly wouldn't be bothered and I don't know anyone else who does.

Need to have an iPhone 5 to test on iPhone 5 (0)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#41361973)

I'm not convinced that these people who buy the new version every time it comes out are anything other than a vocal minority.

And this vocal minority includes developers who need to own the latest and greatest in order to be able to test their products on the latest and greatest.

Re:Need to have an iPhone 5 to test on iPhone 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362199)

why are the developers so vocal?

Re:How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (5, Insightful)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about 2 years ago | (#41362015)

It's like that Jimmy Kimmel sketch [youtube.com] where he gives people an "iPhone 5" (really a 4S) and they tell him how much faster and lighter it is compared to their current 4S.

Re:How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362315)

Dumb basterds.

- Mom's corp.

A sucker born every minute? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361879)

By my calculations it's actually 1389 (rounded up) every minute.

iphone is bestphone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361943)

suck it droidtards.

Think Different (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361947)

The irony here is funny.

Re:Think Different (2)

ddd0004 (1984672) | about 2 years ago | (#41362169)

They are all thinking different together

Re:Think Different (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362241)

Above all serious marketing. The fanboy is a strange animal who wants to feel exclusive, but also takes comfort in numbers. You felt foolish for rushing to buy yet another expensive incrementally improved model? No need to fret, you're not alone: just do as the others, let loose and satisfy your craving! And thanks for the check.
No wonder why all vendors spin initial sales number (remember the tricks Nokia played with the first WP7 phones? Stuffing the channel? Forcing people to on-line buying buy launching on WE to push Amazon's ranking? Same logic, with the difference that it didn't work. At least Apple is good at this). This is not limited to Apple/iPhone fans by the way.

In the same line as "this is fashion, not high tech", notice how Apple didn't introduce an iPhone mini as many pundits suggested to maximize profits. They stick to keeping their existing phone at a lower price point. Worse than having last year high-end model, you now have a second rate cheap model. Ouch. Rush to buy the latest and greatest one to wash out this infamy.
Ok, this doesn't apply to everyone and I'm a bit heavy on the irony. But there are quite a lot of these mindless fanboys all around (not an Apple exclusivity either) and it's getting annoying.

Total number (0)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#41361951)

Since the first iPhone launch, Apple is now nearing 100 million total units sold. It blows my mind to think how many of these things are in the wild.

Re:Total number (2)

UngodAus (198713) | about 2 years ago | (#41362145)

Number of phones Nokia shipped in 2011: 417 million Just sayin'...

Re:Total number (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362179)

Just sayin what? Feature phones make up a bigger part of the market than smart phones?

Re:Total number (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362303)

In 2011 Nokia had 130,000 employees in 120 countries, sales in more than 150 countries, global annual revenue of over €38 billion, and operating loss of €1 billion.

Just sayin' [wikipedia.org]

Re:Total number (1)

icebraining (1313345) | about 2 years ago | (#41362321)

Shipped and sold are very different animals. Unfortunately, since I wish Nokia would bounce back - I use and like their phones.

Re:Total number (1)

beelsebob (529313) | about 2 years ago | (#41362267)

400 million sold and counting actually.

Perspective (2, Interesting)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41361953)

Let's keep some perspective here. They only sell one model at a time. All of the other vendors sell multiple models at the same time. The implication is that this is somehow the leading phone ecosystem or some such thing. In reality Apple doesn't even sell as many smart phones as Samsung alone [huffingtonpost.com] , never mind all of the other vendors.

Android has 68% of the worldwide market compared to 17% for apple, which slipped from 19% a year before. Look I'm all for personal choice, I think apple has some pretty neat things that they do, but can we check the hype machine in Realityville please?

Re:Perspective (5, Informative)

mgscheue (21096) | about 2 years ago | (#41362019)

They sell three models at any given time. It was the 3GS, 4, and 4S and now it's the 4, 4S, and 5. I just ordered a "free" 4 for my wife to replace her 3GS.

Re:Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362049)

You're on slashdot, which is now in direct competition with CNN and Fox News for "most sensationalist articles of the year" award.
That check of yours might have happened a few years ago, but is looked down upon by the current slashdot editors.

Re:Perspective (5, Informative)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about 2 years ago | (#41362069)

Probably because 31% of North Americans are likely to purchase the iPhone 5.

http://www.marketnews.ca/content/index/page?pid=11889 [marketnews.ca]

Most of Android marketshare comes from prepaid and free-after-subsidy low end phones with no margin. This is why every Android manufacturer combined times 4 doesn't equal only Apple's profit.

Re:Perspective (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362237)

You don't understand.

When it comes to proving the superiority of cell phone operating systems, individual sales is the metric to use. It proves that rational consumers rationally choose Linux (via Android) over every other option. Openness, the hacker community, Freedom. This is what they value over shinyness and slick marketing and fashion. Proof positive.

All this gibberish you shout about various mitigating factors and such is just that: gibberish. Android is #1 and that is all that matters.

Remeber though that you can't apply that same thinking to computer operating systems. Those people are hoodwinked moron idiots for using Windows in droves. And also OSX in droves, relative to Linux. Now for that market there are mitigating factors and stupid Apple and stupid Microsoft hold back the Linux. Linux is #1 there too you just have to take my word for it.

Re:Perspective (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362251)

I like it how fanbois point out Apple's huge margin on iPhone as something to be proud of. "Hey, check it out how they overpriced it and still we buy it in bunches! Ain't it amazing?"

Re:Perspective (1)

EGSonikku (519478) | about 2 years ago | (#41362339)

I wouldn't call $199 overpriced?

Re:Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362631)

I wouldn't call $199 overpriced?

For that hardware, I would; and that's the subsidy price too.

Re:Perspective (1)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41362099)

Around the world lots of carriers offer heavy minute/SMS and lite on data plans. I've read of some plans in the 200mb range.

I bet a lot of these worldwide android sales are like that. Just a replacement for the old BREW phones

I was going to buy my wife's 80 year old grandma a droid just for the huge screen to replace her landline and put her on the family plan with us. She's never been on the Internet or even sent a text it she might get a gmail and google plus account soon

Re:Perspective (3, Insightful)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about 2 years ago | (#41362109)

Isn't this pretty much a repeat of the PC wars all over again?

Re:Perspective (1)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41362349)

You hit the nail on the head. This is a repeat of the PC wars all over again. A smart phone is just a small PC that happens to make phone calls.

Re:Perspective (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362141)

The best part about this is how personally, deeply hurt the fandroids feel about all this.

Re:Perspective (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362177)

Yup. Butthurt in abundance.

Re:Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362189)

Wow. You're really having that much of a problem with this? Sorry if it hurt your ego.
 
Everything the blurb says is factually correct. Perspective is not lost. The only thing that is lost is a battle in the Samsung vs Apple war that fanbois have made up in their head. Not to mention that you don't understand the Apple market since you made a factual error about it that most 15 year olds with a smartphone know from going to Verizons website. But I'll let that slide because I don't want you to have a stroke over what is really a nonissue.
 
It amazes me how many people I've witnesses over the past couple of weeks that appear to have so much of their own identity riding on their little gadgets. It's pathetic to be honest and shows you how we've come up short as a progressive society.

Re:Perspective (2)

onyxruby (118189) | about 2 years ago | (#41362373)

I assure you that I have been anti-hype and anti-marketing for decades. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re:Perspective (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362511)

Your posting says differently. You can say one thing when called out on it but your actions otherwise betray you as a raving fanboi. One who uses false facts, at that.

Only Apple Store preorders (1)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about 2 years ago | (#41361979)

Apple does not release preorder numbers directly from carriers, and the iPhone 5 is launching on more carriers than any other iPhone version.

The big problem for Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361991)

is that they don't have any more...

So even if they COULD HAVE sold 4 million... they didn't have it to sell.

Of course, they could have contracted with a large, reliable, parts builder to supply them...

Oh wait - the sued them didn't they.

So now they are with a bankrupt supplier...

Sheep (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41361995)

Look at the sheep running for the food in the hopes of getting a better phone. Apple's people must be made of money, they are very willing to purchase anything Apple puts out and deal with the short comings.

They also don't seem to care about the workers and how they are treated or have the company blinders on. I am not just talking about the ones in China either, there have been numerous writeups about workers here in the US.

Re:Sheep (-1, Flamebait)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about 2 years ago | (#41362183)

Look at the sheep running for the food in the hopes of getting a better phone. Apple's people must be made of money, they are very willing to purchase anything Apple puts out and deal with the short comings.

They also don't seem to care about the workers and how they are treated or have the company blinders on. I am not just talking about the ones in China either, there have been numerous writeups about workers here in the US.

Actually I don't put up with any shortcomings, which is why I don't buy Android products.

I don't put up with plastic phones. I don't put up with oversized devices that cannot be used with one hand. I don't put up with terrible battery life, crashing operating systems, crashing apps, and slow response time to taps and swipes.

Re:Sheep (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362265)

So you didn't buy the iPhone either?

And the electronic garbage pile expands (3, Insightful)

StripedCow (776465) | about 2 years ago | (#41362013)

Let's stop putting money into these closed systems.
Only open systems can help reduce e-waste (just look at Linux, which can actually breathe new life into an old i386).

Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362119)

Spoken like a true Slashdotter.

Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362287)

Breathing life into an old 386 is e-waste. You must not understand the dynamics of modern computing systems.
 
Let me guess, you use one as a firewall that is about on par with your router's firewall effectiveness but sucks down about 50 times more juice just keeping the harddrive spinning? Yeah. Real good waste there.

Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (5, Insightful)

Sique (173459) | about 2 years ago | (#41362359)

I'm not convinced that keeping an old i386 alive is such a good idea from an environmental point of view. If you get a $25 Raspberry Pi, the added waste to the landfill is not more than a single ISA card from the i386 (e.g. to add network capabilities), but it runs on 3.5 Watts instead of 120. So yes, it is possible to keep old i386 alive with Linux, and no, there is not much point in doing so except the smug "because I can".

Re:And the electronic garbage pile expands (4, Insightful)

EGSonikku (519478) | about 2 years ago | (#41362457)

Yeah, that's worked well for Android handsets, most of which can't be upgraded, or if lucky maybe once! Versus "evil closed Apple!" who on the 19th will be releasing iOS 6, including for the 3+ year old iPhone 3GS. And Apple actually has done a fair amount of open source (including WebKit and the OS X kernel): http://opensource.apple.com/ [apple.com]

2 million fags (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362037)

All going to get iAids

Apple Fanboys worry me... (1, Insightful)

dryriver (1010635) | about 2 years ago | (#41362059)

You'd think that people would wait a few days for the iPhone 5 to hit the market, get thoroughly tested/reviewed by various internet sites, build some word-of-mouth (is it genuinely good?). But not, millions of people go "I want, I want, I want" for a product they've never seen or touched in person. ------- Thank god for Android. I couldn't live in a world where Apple dominates everything. --------

Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (5, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 2 years ago | (#41362135)

I couldn't live in a world where Apple dominates everything.

Well, you're not very good at thinking different than are you?

Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (5, Insightful)

tooyoung (853621) | about 2 years ago | (#41362161)

Comments above point out that the Galaxy S3 had 9 million preorders vs the iPhone 5's 2 million. If I apply your logic to those numbers, am I to believe that Android 'fanboys' are a much worse flock? Or maybe people are just buying products that they want and we can stop associating one brand or the other with our egos.

Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (2)

dejanc (1528235) | about 2 years ago | (#41362449)

The power of marketing seems so vast that we are willing to buy products which don't even exist yet. Even if there were a good financial incentive (20% off or something) for pre-ordering, I would still be baffled by people who would buy a cell phone without reading reviews first. It's not even only about the money - cell phone is something you have to use every day, and if the size, or ergonomics or the user interface isn't right for you, it will make you miserable.

I can see how Apple users (and I am one) trust Apple to make generally good laptops or phones, but there is still a difference between favoring one manufacturer and buying their products blindly.

Mandatory viewing: Czech Dream [imdb.com] , a documentary about a couple of guys who get thousands of people to show up for a grand opening of a supermarket which doesn't exist.

Re:Apple Fanboys worry me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362165)

But you can live in a world where Android does? Maybe people just "buy" apple products because they have consistently good experiences using the product and are not afraid of purchasing it. I LOVE Linux, HATE Android.

The Galaxy is apparently the first decent phone to compete against Apple that runs Android. Bout time. That is not Apples fault.

Baaaaa (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362067)

B-a-a-a-a-

Ball's in Sammy's court now... (0)

sakkathotmagaa (2728241) | about 2 years ago | (#41362117)

Stats like this need to make Samsung wonder - hey, we just posted a 'iPhone is crap, look at the comparison with S3' ad, and Apple calmly shows them the finger with a figure like 2M in 24 hours, not counting store sales. I don't see people camping out in front of Samsung stores more than a week in advance of a release, frankly because they have no idea what is going to come out next. Apple's strategy is simple - stick to one unified experience, make it good and market it far in advance of the release via their press/blog network. You gotta give Apple credit for doing what they do best - maintain a high degree of secrecy with just the right amount of leaks....

Re:Ball's in Sammy's court now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362171)

Stats like this need to make Samsung wonder - hey, we just posted a 'iPhone is crap, look at the comparison with S3' ad, and Apple calmly shows them the finger with a figure like 2M in 24 hours, not counting store sales. I don't see people camping out in front of Samsung stores more than a week in advance of a release, frankly because they have no idea what is going to come out next. Apple's strategy is simple - stick to one unified experience, make it good and market it far in advance of the release via their press/blog network.

You gotta give Apple credit for doing what they do best - maintain a high degree of secrecy with just the right amount of leaks....

The endgame is marketshare, not number of i-devices sold. While 2M phones in 24 hours sounds impressive, it's much less impressive when you see that most of those sells are done to iphone 4s/iphone 4 users that have already sold their obsolete phones. That's why Apple will go back to a mr nobody in the smartphone market in 5 or even less years if the competition continues running as it has, oh sure they'll keep their tiny marketshare but who the fuck cares ? 70-80% of the market will belong to android devices.

If Apple were honest, they would post not only the number of i-devices sold, but wether they are selling these to new customers or to same old customers.

Re:Ball's in Sammy's court now... (3, Informative)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about 2 years ago | (#41362249)

Actually 22% of Android users, 38% of Blackberry users, and 32% of users with dumbphones are expected to buy the iPhone 5.

There is much less cannibalism here than you lead on.

http://cdn1.techbargains.com/static/images/iphonepredictions/iPhone-infographic_noFooter.png [techbargains.com]

Re:Ball's in Sammy's court now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362381)

I think your misinterperting. 22% of android use that want a new phone. I doubt a fifth of the whole android ecosystem would switch to the IOS system. I wonder what group of people they surveyed.

Re:Ball's in Sammy's court now... (1)

EGSonikku (519478) | about 2 years ago | (#41362555)

Then Samsung must be really dishonest by your logic, since it took a lawsuit for them to reveal their "devices sold" numbers, which were a lot lower than the "devices shipped" number they had been touting. And what difference does it make if iPhones are new or returning customers? Even if they sold their old iPhone to get cash for a 5, someone was still buying that phone from them. Either way, total # of iOS users increases.

It will slack off ... (-1)

johnlcallaway (165670) | about 2 years ago | (#41362343)

... once all the iDrones have their toys. Several of people I know are ditching their lack-of-options iPhones for full-of-options Android phones. Our office used to see several iPhones, but most people have switched over the last two years. My guess is that people want more choices than white or black and are starting to realize that Apple products just aren't that innovative, that if they wait around for a couple of months, someone will do it better and cheaper.

The endgame has nothing to do with marketshare, Apple has rarely held marketshare very long in any of the very narrow product lines they report comparisons with. It's all about profit, and Apple charges more for a product that is perceived as 'cool' and 'must have'. As long as Apple continues to profit, they will continue to create a niche product that some people go ga-ga over just because it has an Apple logo on it. And those people will continue to spend far too much money for a non-innovative product with failures like Siri and bad antennae design and exploding batteries.

So you're saying pre-orders are a bad thing? (5, Insightful)

kiriath (2670145) | about 2 years ago | (#41362347)

ALL those people that pre-ordered the samsung devices 'Sight unseen' were ok though... right?

People who pre-order anything are idiots... people who buy tickets in advance for a movie are stupid too right? They are sheep blindly following some silly trailer and thinking they might enjoy a movie. People who pre-order video games, music albums... dvds... all sheep. Right?

I hate when people use the term 'sheeple'... I am fully in charge of my technological wants and desires... I have several android devices, but I really enjoy my apple devices. I have the resources to upgrade when they come out with something new and I do. How does this make me a sheep? I'm not blindly purchasing some mythical happy box because someone said so... if I didn't want it, I wouldn't buy it. Simple as that.

Eye phone 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362365)

2+ million "shut up and take my money!" dumb basterds.

- Mom's corp.

One reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362529)

4G LTE.

Why does Slashdot publish this rubbish? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41362571)

And just like that, Slashdot becomes part of the Apple marketing machine.

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