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No Smiles At NJ Motor Vehicle Commission

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the when-instructions-are-redundant dept.

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Reader Presto Vivace blesses us with news that the state of New Jersey "has banned motorists from making big smiles [for their license pictures] because such expressions don't work with facial recognition software." Now that passports are by decree grim and glasses-free, I'm expecting the next phase to involve the banning of facial hair, lips, and any hair that blocks the ears.

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thanks for the info (2)

Nyder (754090) | about 2 years ago | (#41402939)

going to be smiling big time when i get my next ID.

No smiles in Ohio (5, Informative)

Geoffrey.landis (926948) | about 2 years ago | (#41403079)

That's not new. No smiles in Ohio, either-- I renewed my license over a year ago, and was quite firmly instructed that smiles were not allowed in drivers license photos because it screws up the facial recognition software.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10249834-71.html [cnet.com]
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/27/states-adopting-no-smiles-policy-for-drivers-licenses/ [autoblog.com]
http://www.webanswers.com/legal/why-can-t-you-smile-in-your-drivers-license-picture-84ffba [webanswers.com]

Re:No smiles in Ohio (2)

Shatrat (855151) | about 2 years ago | (#41403159)

Nor Indiana. I wonder if they all use the same software with the same readme?

Re:No smiles in Ohio (1)

AvitarX (172628) | about 2 years ago | (#41403853)

Probably part of the guides for federal ID.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (4, Funny)

fearlezz (594718) | about 2 years ago | (#41403239)

Nor the Netherlands. Seems politicians want to wipe every single smile of our faces.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (1)

nemui-chan (550759) | about 2 years ago | (#41403263)

Same in Nevada.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (1)

Rev Saxon (666154) | about 2 years ago | (#41403311)

Texas is out for smiles as well. They also discriminate against glasses, which is funny as besides that photo I don't know the last time I was out in public without mine on. Actually get a better hit from matching technology if the picture of me was wearing them.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (5, Insightful)

Immerman (2627577) | about 2 years ago | (#41403605)

Actually I don't think the software even "sees" glasses, they don't affect the control point recognition, but glasses can throw human-powered facial recognition off, and it's a lot easier for an official to ask you to remove your glasses when confirming your identity than to have you wear the same style as in your photo if you've changed them or are wearing contacts. Also glasses and flash photography don't get along all that well (glare hides your eyes), and do you really want *another* reason for the barely competent person at the DMV to spend three hours trying to do something simple for the person in front of you?

Re:No smiles in Ohio (2)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | about 2 years ago | (#41403321)

Virginia too, my wife just got her license renewed and wasn't allowed to smile.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (4, Funny)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about 2 years ago | (#41403869)

It's been almost two years since I renewed my license in Virginia too. What's even funnier is that the guy ahead of me had a tee shirt on with Bob Marley on it. The print of Bob smiling on the shirt screwed up the camera (or operator) somehow. After several attempts they made him turn his shirt inside-out.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (1)

timchampion (940519) | about 2 years ago | (#41403469)

... nor Iowa

except I was told that the reason was that you won't be smiling when the cop pulls you over. Now I know the real reason.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403747)

I work as an engineer in ohio for the company behind all this and can tell you facial recognition never works anyhow.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (1)

AvitarX (172628) | about 2 years ago | (#41403885)

Really? I wonder if it has to do with state population.

I went to get a replacement for a move (in Delaware), and before I said my name, they snapped a pick and asked if I was "fistname lastname", I assume they're testing the software with renewals, losses, and change of addresses, and it appears to work.

Re:No smiles in Ohio (0)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 2 years ago | (#41403797)

Some day we're gonna have millions of robots. They have to be able to recognize you so the one guy in the room can send them out to arrest you.

You exist to serve the government. It is the logical conclusion of history the past hundred years.

Smile, wait, don't smile for your new robot overlords. And you are not permitted to read that copy of 1984 because it is inflammatory and may cause fights.

(Pssst. To defeat the robot overlords, smile.)

Re:thanks for the info (1)

RoverDaddy (869116) | about 2 years ago | (#41403385)

Since we're all piling on under this comment: not in Massachusetts either. And that's been true for at least 5 years now.

Re:thanks for the info (5, Funny)

PRMan (959735) | about 2 years ago | (#41403449)

Don't lie. Nobody smiles in NJ, because it's NJ...

Re:thanks for the info (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 2 years ago | (#41403475)

Well that rule can't be too hard to enforce. I mean these people are already in New Jersey, and they are at the DMV to boot. I don't think you can get closer to hell.

Re:thanks for the info (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 2 years ago | (#41403623)

Well you can, but the Devil will require you to get a NJ drivers license before he lets you past the gates...

They'll never get my Pasta Strainer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403855)

Religious headgear may still be allowed, so don't forget your Pasta Strainer!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/15/137824732/austrian-man-wins-right-to-wear-pasta-strainer-in-license-photo

Re:thanks for the info (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 years ago | (#41403871)

Hope you like walking. They can simply refuse to issue your new ID. And if you argue, you can be taken in by the cops for causing a disturbance.

Smile! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41402949)

So smiling keeps facial recognition software from working. So all you need to do to not be recognized is smile all the time!

Smilex! (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about 2 years ago | (#41403047)

Smilex! it's good for you!

also, anyone smiling is now a terrorist suspect.

though, in all fairness, crying probably foils the sw too. as long as your nose, cheeks and lips move it's fucked.

Re:Smile! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403341)

Have they outlawed frowning yet?

Re:Smile! (4, Informative)

DanTheStone (1212500) | about 2 years ago | (#41403393)

The facial recognition software isn't really to compare with your photos in public, it's primarily so that can check within the system whether you're getting licenses issued for yourself under different names.

Evidence:
http://www.publicopiniononline.com/latestnews/ci_21247064/penndot-computer-catches-fake-id-attempt [publicopiniononline.com]
http://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/facial-recognition-software-used-by-dot/article_dd7d0f7e-dcde-11e1-a6a0-001a4bcf887a.html [bismarcktribune.com]

Re:Smile! (4, Informative)

DanTheStone (1212500) | about 2 years ago | (#41403453)

Apparently the first link is broken now, but here's some text that was there: "A man has been charged with trying to get an identification card from the Pennsylvania DOT under a name not his own. PennDOT's facial recognition computer program discovered the discrepancy. Jose Alejandro Velazquez-Rodriguez, 29, was charged with tampering with public records or information. He attempted to get a Pennsylvania identification card with the name of Steven Huerta sometime between July 16 and 27 at the DMV office in Gettysburg."

Re:Smile! (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#41403759)

Because there's NO other way to check this right?

GLEAN THE CUBE! HACK THE GIBSON, MAN! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | about 2 years ago | (#41403575)

I see a big market for rub-on tattoos for third eyes[1], ears and second noses and mouths!


[1] also works to ward off the evil eye!

Re:Smile! (3, Insightful)

tompaulco (629533) | about 2 years ago | (#41403669)

Well, who says they can use my driver's license photo to do facial recognition on? I didn't sign up for that.

Re:Smile! (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#41403783)

Since when has the government ever needed permission to do anything? As far as their concerned we're lucking their not putting a chip in head and calling it a day.

oh boy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41402965)

this sounds fuckin wack, good thing im moving to cali before my id expires, fuck new jersey, buncha corrupt wops and gangbanging nignogs

Re:oh boy (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41403251)

Corrupt and stupid is one thing... but why give them a hard time for the gangbangs?

Smiling foold facial recognition? (5, Funny)

KatchooNJ (173554) | about 2 years ago | (#41402975)

So... To flip this... does that mean if I smile when doing something naughty, I won't be recognized by the serious computers?

Re:Smiling foold facial recognition? (5, Funny)

Firehed (942385) | about 2 years ago | (#41402987)

Cue the Joker references.

Re:Smiling foold facial recognition? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41402993)

wouldn't you be smiling while doing naughty things anyway? :-)

Re:Smiling foold facial recognition? (1)

JustOK (667959) | about 2 years ago | (#41403407)

Don't know why, but I'm always so serious.

Next step (1)

phorm (591458) | about 2 years ago | (#41403083)

Nah, you'll just get detained for extra questioning due to smiling too much.

Re:Smiling foold facial recognition? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403705)

That is what I do. I'm dead serious during picture time, and then I have a big smile elsewhere. Now we know how to hack the system, keep smiling, keep smiling.

Re:Smiling foold facial recognition? (1)

matthelm007 (1392603) | about 2 years ago | (#41403719)

No, but because it is a law, and that's the reason, a good lawyer could get you out of almost anything if they used ONLY the facial recognition software, and the picture they used had you smiling. Now if they had ANY other evidence, or you did something REALLY bad, it doesn't matter where they got it, you are screwed.

That's ok (1)

AwesomeMcgee (2437070) | about 2 years ago | (#41402981)

I'll just pencil the grin in, along with evil mustache on my next picture.

Re:That's ok (2)

knarfling (735361) | about 2 years ago | (#41403089)

I am still trying the Steven Wright method. He managed to have his licence photo taken out of focus. That way, when the cops pull him over, they stare at the photo for a second and then say, "Here. You can go."

Despite my best effors, I have not been able to accomplish this ... yet.

Re:That's ok (1)

cyberchondriac (456626) | about 2 years ago | (#41403621)

You have to vibrate really rapidly when your picture is being snapped - short exposure time and all that ;p

Re:That's ok (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 2 years ago | (#41403761)

No, no, you've got it wrong - it's not a matter of getting the photo taken out of focus, you have to be out of focus when the photo is taken - it can be a bit of a challenge, but no camera can take a focused photo of a person who's out of focus to begin with.

Re:That's ok (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403145)

Seeing as how this is NJ, I'm still going with my Insane Clown Posse makeup [cvdazzle.com] countermeasure.

Ban lips??!? (1)

Baby Duck (176251) | about 2 years ago | (#41403023)

Banning of lips?? Reminds me of the Footloose spoof called Footless where the whole town sold their feet to the Chinese.

Noone at the MVA smiles (2)

stevegee58 (1179505) | about 2 years ago | (#41403027)

so why should we?

Re:Noone at the MVA smiles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403351)

I saw someone smile at the MVA, and I ran. I figured they had finally snapped. Too late for facial recognition at that point anyway.

Fuck the software (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403045)

Shove it up the ass of our robot overlords.

Why so serious-s-s-s-s-s-.......? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403049)

EOM

Want to steal? Just smile! (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#41403057)

Cue the grinning criminal outbreak!

Obviously the facial recognition software won't recognize you committing your crime if you do it with a smile.

Re:Want to steal? Just smile! (1)

lcam (848192) | about 2 years ago | (#41403197)

When you go through the red-light, big smile for the camera!

Already the case in France. (1)

dpdawson (624716) | about 2 years ago | (#41403073)

From what I remember of my prefecture experiences, France already bans hair blocking the ears in government related documents.

Re:Already the case in France. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403141)

That must be a slight problem if you have hairy ears! I'll make sure not to go to France ...

Validation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403075)

Absolutely NO Smiling, Smirking, Humor, or General Gaiety permitted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao

Virginia has the same problem. (1)

gcnaddict (841664) | about 2 years ago | (#41403097)

It's also worth noting that Virginia sued Northrop either last year or two years ago for issues over creating driver's licenses, so I suspect New Jersey decided to also contract with Northrop for the same system.

Oh well, their loss. Everyone in VA looks like a serial killer on their black-and-white photos.

Re:Virginia has the same problem. (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 years ago | (#41403959)

Well, most everyone there is.

How to troll the DMV, from G4TV (4, Funny)

Rakarra (112805) | about 2 years ago | (#41403103)

Picture link [g4tv.com] . Simple effective fun!
The result: The finished license. [g4tv.com]

Re:How to troll the DMV, from G4TV (1)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | about 2 years ago | (#41403563)

Great. Now anybody with the simplest image-processing software can see exactly how you'll look with and without a beard, and with and without hair -- just mirror the appropriate part of the image.

Now, if you're really paranoid, there ought to be all sorts of ways to do the equivalent of dazzle camouflage [wikipedia.org] in your DMV photo. Asymmetric stripes in your beard or hair, a bit of Darth Maul work with a sharpie...

I smiled for my NJ license (1)

Jaxim (858185) | about 2 years ago | (#41403107)

I just got my NJ license last week and no one told me not to smile. I guess it's not enforced consistently.

But the bigger issue is why hasn't renewing process gone digital? why do I need to wait hours to renew my license? What they should do is allow renewal of licenses to be done over the internet. You can submit your own photo if you follow certain guidelines: i.e. blank background, well lit, no hats/scarves, even no smile, etc. Then the NJ employee can approve your license if you followed all the directions and your photo looks like you are 4 years older than the previous photo that they have on record. If your renewal license is not renewed for what ever reason then you will need to come in person to renew your license.

It adds a bit of complexity, but I bet it would speed things up.

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (3, Interesting)

kidgenius (704962) | about 2 years ago | (#41403221)

Just come live in AZ. We don't have to renew our licenses until we are 65. Keep your picture for 40+ years.

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403629)

Yeah but when I tried they deported me to Mexico for not having ID... I tried to tell them I was Puerto Rican and born in the US but the Sherif was a real dick about it.

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (1)

NoNonAlphaCharsHere (2201864) | about 2 years ago | (#41403875)

Apparently the moderators haven't seen the last few episodes of The Wacky World of Arizona Law Enforcement.

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#41403587)

You can submit your own photo if you follow certain guidelines: i.e. blank background, well lit, no hats/scarves, even no smile, etc

I wish they let you do that. They sort of let you do that with passport photos and that provides plenty of opportunity to tweak the photo in such a way as to confuse facial recognition algos but still pass muster with any human who looks at the photo. Use photoshop to change the distance between your eyes, smooth out your cheekbones, fiddle with your jawline, etc. All minor things, but the facial recog algos are fragile (hence the no smiling rule) and small changes that most humans won't even notice can be enough to totally throw them off.

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (1)

Urza9814 (883915) | about 2 years ago | (#41403649)

But the bigger issue is why hasn't renewing process gone digital? why do I need to wait hours to renew my license?

Your DMV sucks, that's why. I recently moved from Pennsylvania to Rhode Island...and quickly realized that the Pennsylvania DMV system is pretty awesome. Last time I had to get my license renewed in PA I popped in after work and had my new license in my hand within half an hour. Up here to get a license it takes a month and a half by mail...spent the first three full days after I moved sitting in the damn DMV for crap that would have been done in an hour back in PA. If you're near the NJ/PA border, I suggest you move ;)

Not that PA is a good state for any other reason...but that's more reason than I currently have for Jersey! ;)

Re:I smiled for my NJ license (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403901)

In MA, licenses are renewed every 5 years, but you only have to go to the RMV once every 10 years (the other renewals are online). The in-person renewal process only takes a few minutes once you get through the wait; wait times and all of the paperwork can be found online, so you show up whenever the wait isn't too long with all of the paperwork already filled out. Once your turn comes up, you just hand over the paperwork and your old license, take the eye exam, get your picture taken, sign your name, and you're done.

Passports (2)

dskoll (99328) | about 2 years ago | (#41403121)

Passports make sense because by the time you're done being manhandled by the TSA or CATSA, you're likely to look very grumpy anyway.

But I'm usually not in a terrible mood when I'm driving.

Re:Passports (2)

oneiros27 (46144) | about 2 years ago | (#41403565)

But no one's looking at your license while you're driving. It's when you're grumpy for having been pulled over that they ask to see your license.

Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403123)

Maryland has already required this for quite some time. As far as I know, some other states already require this too. Not sure why it's a big deal, since DL pictures always look horrible anyway.

People smile at the DMV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403163)

Really?

Image Hacking (1)

carrier lost (222597) | about 2 years ago | (#41403173)

I usually try to obscure my face with my middle finger whenever I see a traffic camera

Re:Image Hacking (2)

omnichad (1198475) | about 2 years ago | (#41403373)

Too bad they're taking a picture of your license plate and don't care what your face looks like.

Re:Image Hacking (1)

PRMan (959735) | about 2 years ago | (#41403437)

Actually, they do. They have to be able to prove it was you driving if it goes to court.

Re:Image Hacking (1)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about 2 years ago | (#41403601)

Actually, they do. They have to be able to prove it was you driving if it goes to court.

YMMV. Per Iowa law, it's up to you to show you either rented out the vehicle or produce the police report you filed when it got stolen. State legislature considered banning traffic cameras in general, but the big cities that use them rely on the revenue and lobbied against it. On the plus side -- if there is a real 'plus' -- it's not a criminal or traffic offense.

Re:Image Hacking (1)

carrier lost (222597) | about 2 years ago | (#41403921)

Too bad they're taking a picture of your license plate and don't care what your face looks like.

So that's why they made me take the smiley-face stickers off my license plate!

duckface (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403177)

Is blue steel allowed?

beard (2)

confused one (671304) | about 2 years ago | (#41403237)

not shaving my beard. It's only just starting to show grey...

Glasses free? (3, Informative)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about 2 years ago | (#41403287)

Now that passports are by decree grim and glasses-free

Yeah...no. That's simply untrue. I went into the post office to get my passport photo taken last month and they didn't have me remove my glasses, nor did the Department of State seem to have any issues with my wearing them in my photo, since I just received my new passport last week.

I think I read that there are some rules against a few particular types of glasses that obscure too much of the face (e.g. chunky frames), but they had no issues with my standard looking thin frames.

Re:Glasses free? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403331)

Same here. After having read the guidelines they recommend not wearing them if you don't have an anti-glare coating either, as they will obscure your eyes if the photo is taken with flash.

Validation (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403297)

This is a great story. And yes, it's on topic for the OP. Take time to watch it all the way through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbk980jV7Ao

Mod AC parent up (1)

ClickOnThis (137803) | about 2 years ago | (#41403501)

I was going to post this but AC parent beat me to it.

This news is double-plus good. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403365)

Nuff said ...

Smiling? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403375)

"And the heat came by and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day." R. Hunter.

been this way for a few years in VA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403405)

the fine print does indeed state no "teeth" in your smile.
i gave them my biggest pursed-lip grin with a raised eyebrow and it was deemed ok by the counter monkey. as long as you dont show teeth.

Turn Your Head and Use Cotton Balls (2)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 2 years ago | (#41403503)

NJ isn't the only DMV doing stuff like this to make facial recognition easier. If they won't let you smile, try to turn your head so you are looking at the camera at an angle - part of the algorithm uses the distance between your eyes so turning your head, even slightly, in a simple 2D photo is going to change that. Width of nose and shape of cheekbones are also part of the equation so stuff cotton balls up your nose and in your cheeks and then just pretend you have a cold. Mascara helps too because it trys to figure out the depth of your eye sockets from the 2D photo too.

Beyond all that a big question that none of these DMVs have had to answer is what the hell does the DMV need facial recognition for? It is a license to drive, if you get pulled over and you don't have a license on you (which is not illegal, you are only required to be licensed, not actually carry it with you when you drive that's just for convenience) they can just type your name in the computer in their car and bring up your DMV record and visually confirm your identity, no computerized facial recognition needed.

Re:Turn Your Head and Use Cotton Balls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403607)

(which is not illegal, you are only required to be licensed, not actually carry it with you when you drive that's just for convenience)

This is what I was told way back in driver's ed. Though I think it probably varies from state to state.

Re:Turn Your Head and Use Cotton Balls (2)

DanTheStone (1212500) | about 2 years ago | (#41403735)

Beyond all that a big question that none of these DMVs have had to answer is what the hell does the DMV need facial recognition for?

As I said in a higher thread, it's primarily to make sure that you don't get cards issued in multiple names. That is apparently attempted on a fairly regular basis, to the point that essentially every state has put in these systems to stop fraud. And they do actually catch people.

Re:Turn Your Head and Use Cotton Balls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403749)

Beyond all that a big question that none of these DMVs have had to answer is what the hell does the DMV need facial recognition for?

As another post said, it's to catch people getting driving licenses under multiple names, possibly to circumvent a license suspension, possibly for reasons unrelated to driving.

yeah but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403533)

Do New Jersey people have many reasons to smile anyway?

Muslim Tranny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403591)

Can I wear a burkha?

Outlaws (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403613)

Obligatory: "When smiles are outlawed, only the outlaws will be smiling."

Probably wouldn't work in the UK (1, Redundant)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | about 2 years ago | (#41403723)

Apparently this year, an Olympics spectator was arrested for not smiling: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/08/olympics-spectator-parkinsons-arrest-smiling [guardian.co.uk]

This could get confusing...
Travel Agent: Alright, that about sums it up. But a little word of advice before we part; when you arrive in the UK, be sure to keep a smile on your face.
Customer: But isn't that illegal?
Travel Agent: They're a little different over there. Ya know, they drive on the other side of road and such and eat scones.
Customer: Hmm. I don't know. I was once tazed by a TSA VIPR [wikipedia.org] agent for smiling and it wasn't fun. I pissed myself in front of my kids.
Travel Agent: Good grief! Things are getting ridiculous around here, aren't they. Have you ever considered Iceland?
Customer: ...Iceland. Hmm. Yes, that sounds good.

Social Enginerring at Work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403755)

I live in New Jersey. They do plenty to keep people from smiling at the DMV without making any rules against it.

When smiling becomes a crime... (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 2 years ago | (#41403775)

...Only criminals will smile!

Joisey (1)

heptapod (243146) | about 2 years ago | (#41403793)

Why would they smile? They live in Jersey.

I speak from experience having moved from Colorado to NJ.

Not Bad ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403799)

I always do a "Not Bad" figure and other grimasse for these picture, that look like it's your normal face, like Mr Bean, I obviouly make the same grimasse when I get to the border or when asked for my paper...

Then how would it work when they need it? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41403845)

If this facial recognition software cannot deal with smiles, how is it going to work on other random photos?

Seems like it would be of pretty limited usefulness.

Old news (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 years ago | (#41403861)

All this stuff messes with facial recognition. They also ban hats, glasses, etc. Facial hair, no, but you cant have your hair over your face...

We have been doing this for some time now. Even caught a few people with multiple ID's in the system so it does work.

REAL ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403891)

What the hell, slashdot? Not one anti-fascism person here was aware that this is to comply with the REAL ID Act?

Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41403917)

Ever had to get/renew your license in NJ? After all the lines and 'friendly' people that work at the DMV, who the hell wants to smile?

Just dealt with this in the beginning of the month, you wouldn't believe how many dopes couldn't stop smiling.

Try adopting (4, Interesting)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#41403933)

I adopted my son from Ethiopia a few years ago and had to go to a Homeland security office a few hours away from me for an entire day to fill out paperwork and get every single finger, and even my palms printed. Then they took pictures of me from every angle imaginable. I told the homeland security agent "Well I guess going off the grid won't be an option anymore" he laughed and said "Yea, you're definitely in the system now"

On the bright side, I went to buy a handgun recently and the store owner called in my background check to the FBI. He gave them my SS# and then said "Oh... really? Already?" and hung up. He said that what usually happens is they research it and call him back. He's never had them just approve it over the phone in a matter of seconds like that. So I guess when the government has already logged every cell in your body already there are at least some benefits.
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