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iPhone 5 Teardown Shows Boost To Repairability

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the if-it's-broke,-fix-it dept.

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iFixit has posted a detailed teardown of the new iPhone 5. While the casing still uses Apple's proprietary pentalobe fasteners, the good news is that Apple has made the screen much easier to remove. Once the fasteners have been removed, the screen will lift out easily through the use of a suction cup. The screens are by far the most common parts of iPhones to break, and this change turns a complicated 38-step procedure that takes about 45 minutes at minimum into a quick, 5-10 minute job. The teardown also shows the iPhone 5 battery to be very similar to the iPhone 4S's, suggesting that the improvements to battery life come from other hardware and software changes. We get a look at the new A6 processor running the phone, which is a custom design based on ARMv7. iFixit also looks at the Lightning connector assembly; unfortunately, it includes the loudspeaker, bottom microphone, Wi-Fi antenna, and headphone jack as well, so fixing any one of those parts individually will be difficult. Whatever you think of Apple's decision to move to Lightning instead of micro-USB, it seems their switch away from the 30-pin connecter was necessitated by size constraints.

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Well there goes all my productivity for today (5, Funny)

mozumder (178398) | about 2 years ago | (#41412253)

was trying to concentrate here..

And since when did girls get on the internet?

Re:Well there goes all my productivity for today (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412357)

And since when did girls get on the internet with their clothes on?

I think this is what you meant.

Re:Well there goes all my productivity for today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412471)

I couldn't find the chip that does the magic and the revolutionary panorama rendering engine from the camera! Someone is hiding something!

Re:Well there goes all my productivity for today (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412527)

Not until they make a 32,768 x 8,192 pxl screen. And besides, I heard it from a friend in the uppers that they do it all in software.

Re:Well there goes all my productivity for today (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412651)

the revolutionary panorama rendering engine

You mean that thing that my android phone already does and does well?

Re:Well there goes all my productivity for today (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413513)

My Touch Pro 2, a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone did this. Quite well, too I might add.

Summary fails to give final score (7/10) (4, Informative)

Scowler (667000) | about 2 years ago | (#41412301)

umm, kinda obvious fact to omit from the summary, that whole ifixit repairability score...

Re:Summary fails to give final score (7/10) (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412533)

Doesn't matter, the article says how everything is justified for the better with the iPhone 5. Justified.

So now go buy it. Not considering the above mention of score, data comm speed are the same and multimedia roughly the same.

Oh and playing music and sound quality? Hasn't changed much since the 3S... we'll unless your in the distortion field [youtube.com] .

Data comm speed - guess LTW means nothing... (4, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41412569)

Not considering the above mention of score, data comm speed are the same and multimedia roughly the same.

The inclusion of LTE alone marks that statement wrong.

Oh and playing music and sound quality? Hasn't changed much since the 3S

Which is why some people buy better headphones.

It's a phone, not a movie theater. The built in speakers are always worse than better headphone options.

Re:Data comm speed - guess LTW means nothing... (5, Informative)

immaterial (1520413) | about 2 years ago | (#41413083)

I'm surprised you didn't catch this. There HAS been a significant upgrade to the speakers and microphones in the iPhone 5 (and to top it off, Apple is working with carriers to improve audio quality during calls as well).

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/09/12/iphone-5-three-mics/ [idownloadblog.com]

Still a tiny speaker... (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41414425)

It may be improved but in the end the built in speakers will simply not be as good as even the cheaper headphones. If for no other reason than speakers on a phone will always be too close together to get any kind of stereo separation.

F$^%$ers (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412311)

They did something for some reason that wasn't just to screw over the sheep. Now I can't hate them as much.

Re:F$^%$ers (-1, Troll)

plover (150551) | about 2 years ago | (#41412485)

They did something for some reason that wasn't just to screw over the sheep. Now I can't hate them as much.

C'mon, it's Apple. You didn't honestly think they wouldn't let you down like that, would they?

Here's something extra to hate about them. They took away the god-awful proprietary 30 pin connector, and replaced it with a new god-awful smaller proprietary connector that remains incompatible with the rest of the world. Nobody's old apple-y devices, cables, or chargers will work with their new phones; and non-apple cables or devices will remain incompatible. Yay, Apple, your i5 adopters all get to replace a couple hundred dollars worth of peripherals each.

Is that enough sheeple screwing to make sure your hate equation remains balanced?

Re:F$^%$ers (5, Insightful)

TimHunter (174406) | about 2 years ago | (#41412665)

So are you saying that nothing should ever change about the iPhone connector? Once god-awful 30-pin, always god-awful 30-pin? So that nobody ever has to buy new peripherals?

Or are you saying that it's okay if they change it (and force everybody to buy new peripherals) but only if they change it to something "compatible"? Note that micro USB isn't doesn't support the functionality the iPhone needs. See http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-lightning-vs-micro-usb-2012-9 [businessinsider.com]

Re:F$^%$ers (1, Troll)

wiggles (30088) | about 2 years ago | (#41412959)

But they have the [coolest adapters!](http://youtu.be/nf5-Prx19ZM)

Flavors of Spinal Tap (5, Informative)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | about 2 years ago | (#41413011)

The gist of that article is "Lightning is better because it has 8 pins! 8 is more than 5!"

And 11 is louder than 10...

It's nonsense. You can put audio and video over micro-USB (see: MHL), and the standard specifically allows for sending more power over the cable when a device is using its own charger, so the argument "You couldn't charge the iPad!" is BS. The Nexus 7, Kindle, Galaxy Tab, Transformer, etc. all charge fine over micro-USB based chargers.

Re:Flavors of Spinal Tap (3, Interesting)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | about 2 years ago | (#41413149)

The Lightning connector is much easier to insert into the phone versus the micro-USB. Eyesight isn't improving for some of us here.

Then again it's just a connector, get over it and move on.

Re:Flavors of Spinal Tap (4, Insightful)

0100010001010011 (652467) | about 2 years ago | (#41414157)

I believe it can also be inserted either way. Micro USB is a horrible design. (And USB as a whole). Someone completely failed Poka Yoke [wikipedia.org] design when designing it. Micro-USB is just slightly different when flipped upside down. Sometimes with MicroUSB I can't tell if the connection is just snug or if it's being inserted backwards. I often have to double check visually. Something my parents wouldn't be able to do because of their eye sight.

Re:Flavors of Spinal Tap (2)

Wraithlyn (133796) | about 2 years ago | (#41415325)

Ironically, the page you linked explicitly gives this example: 'Most computer manufacturers “Poka-Yoke” their cables so the plugs only fit in one way. This prevents damage to the system.'

I suppose a plug that works fine either way is even MORE "Poka-Yoke" tho. :)

Re:F$^%$ers (4, Insightful)

Mike Buddha (10734) | about 2 years ago | (#41413361)

Note that micro USB isn't doesn't support the functionality the iPhone needs. See http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-lightning-vs-micro-usb-2012-9 [businessinsider.com]

Neither does the Lightning connector. No ipod controls. No analog audio out. No 12-volt charging.

So why is it that we need this new connector again? One that does less than the previous one but will require all new cables and accessories?

Re:F$^%$ers (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413679)

What?

Lightning accessories will support iPod controls just fine. The Lightning to 30-pin adapter does not support "iPod Out" which was a screen mirroring mode for docking an iPod/iPhone to an external display/control interface (like the large touchscreens in some cars). With no Lightning accessories available yet, it's not clear if a pure Lightning-Lightning system will provide a replacement for this mode. In any case, iPod controls are still there, even with the adapter.

Analog output over an all-digital connection is obviously impossible. The whole point of Lightning is to go the Thunderbolt route of adaptive signaling and supporting various protocols and communication methods that don't exist yet. Analog out is available through the DAC in the adapter to legacy accessories that require it, and accessories going forward will be all-digital, obviating any ongoing need for analog audio output.

12V charging isn't a function of the connector, so I don't even know what you're talking about there.

The new connector does four main things:
1. Improved durability and usability (easier to insert, reversible, far less fragile).
2. Much smaller in surface area and volume than existing in-device hardware
3. Future-proofing by allowing changes to signaling and data protocols without changing the connector hardware without having to dedicate specific pins or plan around hypothetical future developments in needs for mobile devices.
4. Comprehensive functionality not offered by USB or MHL (which has its own limitations in connector compatibility, device compatibility, features, and simultaneous use of USB and extended features--on top of not yet even being a ratified standard). MHL might one day be a standard set of communications methods, but it will never be a standard connector with standard implementations across manufacturers. Using a USB connector isn't even specified by MHL.

Re:F$^%$ers (2)

Mike Buddha (10734) | about 2 years ago | (#41414395)

12V charging isn't a function of the connector, so I don't even know what you're talking about there.

The 12-volt capability is part of the firewire support. There are two pins for 12V power, and two pins for 5V. Many car connectors and chargers used this for iPod and iPhone charging in the past, but Apple stopped supporting it in the iPhone as of the 3GS.

You forgot one item on the new connector "feature" list:
5. It's an all digital connector allowing Apple to add an authentication chip to the cable to restrict third party manufacturers from creating low cost compatible hardware, the same way that the iPod controls on the headsets work now.

Yep, the primary reason Apple is changing to this connector rather than a standard one is so that they can screw you into buying their cables and only accessories that they've licensed. If they went with Thunderbolt they wouldn't have complete control the way they want.

I have no problem embracing a change like this, if I'm getting something for my investment. Right now, I'd get less than what I have and I'd have to pay a premium for it. I'm not buying unicorn horns and pixie dust; if they want to sell me something, they are selling me what they have right now and not what they will have eventually. Seriously, they couldn't have made their flagship product compatible with Thunderbolt or USB 3 for launch?

Re:F$^%$ers (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41413417)

So are you saying that nothing should ever change about the iPhone connector? Once god-awful 30-pin, always god-awful 30-pin? So that nobody ever has to buy new peripherals?

Or are you saying that it's okay if they change it (and force everybody to buy new peripherals) but only if they change it to something "compatible"? Note that micro USB isn't doesn't support the functionality the iPhone needs.

Apple dropped analog video output so all they actually need is to put all the ports next to one another on the bottom of the phone; stereo mini or micro plug, uHDMI, and uUSB. "Docks" can implement as many connectors as necessary for their functionality. Done and done. Instead they have invented a new proprietary connector so that they can make more money.

Re:F$^%$ers (1)

Electricity Likes Me (1098643) | about 2 years ago | (#41414297)

So are you saying that nothing should ever change about the iPhone connector? Once god-awful 30-pin, always god-awful 30-pin? So that nobody ever has to buy new peripherals?

Or are you saying that it's okay if they change it (and force everybody to buy new peripherals) but only if they change it to something "compatible"? Note that micro USB isn't doesn't support the functionality the iPhone needs.

Apple dropped analog video output so all they actually need is to put all the ports next to one another on the bottom of the phone; stereo mini or micro plug, uHDMI, and uUSB. "Docks" can implement as many connectors as necessary for their functionality. Done and done. Instead they have invented a new proprietary connector so that they can make more money.

This.

There is no reason other then vendor lock in to invent yet another proprietary connector.

On my shopping list for a new phone is very much the existence of standardized interfaces - the proprietary cables to my iPhone have been a constant nuisance.

Re:F$^%$ers (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41415013)

Yes, they could have done this. And then the phone would be bigger.

Re:F$^%$ers (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#41414713)

So are you saying that nothing should ever change about the iPhone connector?

They could have made a new open connector and encouraged other phone manufacturers to use that. Then I would have no problem with this. Even if they never managed to persuade any other manufacturer, that would at least show they are trying.

Most things still work (-1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41412667)

a new god-awful smaller proprietary connector that remains incompatible with the rest of the world.

When it's something the whole world uses, it's incompatible with the world. The fact was that the old connector you could find cables for just about anywhere on earth, in fact easier than some specific types of USB cables (since there are several slight variations).

The new cable will, over time, be as widely used and available - so then how is it incompatible if everyone uses it?

Nobody's old apple-y devices, cables, or chargers will work with their new phones;

All of the devices will, thanks to the adaptor (and one of the reasons why it's expensive is that in includes a digital to audio adaptor so all the old peripherals WILL work).

As for chargers, all of them will work since Apple has always shipped USB chargers, and all of the other USB chargers will work with the new phone too.

Yay, Apple, your i5 adopters all get to replace a couple hundred dollars worth of peripherals each.

Or spend $30 to make use of them all.

Is that enough sheeple screwing to make sure your hate equation remains balanced?

Alternate thought - let go of the hate and don't live your life with a bitter tinge aimed at a mere company.

Re:Most things still work (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41412733)

Because not everyone will use it. Everyone however does use mini-usb on something, and mini-usb phones sell far more total units. Apple should at least support that without an adaptor.

Re:Most things still work (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41414339)

You don't need an adaptor, just the standard Apple cable. It attaches to any USB device to charge. Mini-USB isn't a standard either, I have a mini-uSB cable for my hard drives that does not work with my camera because it has a DIFFERENT mini-USB connector. So as far as I'm concerned when using USB you already have to deal with several cables anyway and the Apple cable is just one more.

Re:Most things still work (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41414471)

Mini-USB is a set of standards.

I actually meant micro-usb 5 pin. That as far as I can tell all android phones use.

Re:Most things still work (3, Informative)

phayes (202222) | about 2 years ago | (#41415371)

The only thing I have ever seen a micro-USB on is phones. The apple dock connector however has become common on clock radios, speakers & a plethora of docks. As micro-USB does not have enough pins for some dock functions, is not reversible, cannot furnish the wattage necessary to quick charge an iPad & should not need to be changed to accommodate USB3, it looks to me to be a good move. Change now, give an adapter for the old devices & do not need to change for another decade.

Do you really believe that the current Micro-USB connector has much longer to live given that it cannot do USB3? Have you seen the abomination that is micro-USB3 with a dual socket structure wider than a USB type A? Have you never had problems with micro-USB being hard to insert the right way? Hell, I've seen a number of normal sockets where the shelf holding the contacts was snapped off & micro-USB damaged by people inserting them the wrong way. USB is not a great connector & within a few years most phones will have moved on to something else anyway.The only thing I have ever seen a micro-USB on is phones. The apple dock connector however has become common on clock radios, speakers & a plethora of docks. As micro-USB does not have enough pins for some dock functions, is not reversible, cannot furnish the wattage necessary to quick charge an iPad & should not need to be changed to accommodate USB3, it looks to me to be a good move. Change now, give an adapter for the old devices & do not need to change for another decade.

Do you really believe that the current Micro-USB connector has much longer to live given that it cannot do USB3? Have you seen the abomination that is micro-USB3 with a dual socket structure wider than a USB type A? Have you never had problems with micro-USB being hard to insert the right way? Hell, I've seen a number of normal sockets where the shelf holding the contacts was snapped off & micro-USB damaged by people inserting them the wrong way. USB is not a great connector & within a few years most phones will have moved on to something else anyway.

Re:Most things still work (1)

toadlife (301863) | about 2 years ago | (#41413823)

As for chargers, all of them will work since Apple has always shipped USB chargers, and all of the other USB chargers will work with the new phone too.

This is simply not true. Only one end of the chargers Apple uses is USB. The other end is proprietary, and Apple charges a $4-per-connector royalty fee for any accessory that uses their proprietary connector.

If they would have made their new connector compatible with micro usb by taking the form factor and adding proprietary features they desired, people could use their existing micro usb cables (which over the last few years has become THE defacto standard for all non-apple devices) to charge their iphones. Instead, when the cable that comes with the phone goes bad or gets left at home, and an iphone user has to buy a compatible cable to charge their phones, and Apple gets another $4.

Go to a store with an electronics section and find the mobile phone chargers. You'll find there are two classes or chargers; chargers that charge everything and chargers that charge everything but idevices. The chargers that charge everything but idevices will cost about $5 less.

Apple having these proprietary connectors is all about milking their captive market out of every last dime they have.

If you don't mind being nickle and dimed like that, that's fine, but don't delude yourself into thinking Apple's connector is about anything other than sucking money out of it's customer's wallets.

Re:Most things still work (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41414305)

This is simply not true. Only one end of the chargers Apple uses is USB.

It is true because ANY USB charger will work with that Apple cable to charge an iPhone 5.

If they would have made their new connector compatible with micro usb by taking the form factor and adding proprietary features they desired

Then we would have a cable with a worse connector at one end. To me it's absurd to settle for a USB micro connector, in the future that connector will limit speed of transfer and other things devices can do even if you attach proprietary meanings to some pins... the connectors are simple smaller than on the new Apple connector.

You'll find there are two classes or chargers; chargers that charge everything and chargers that charge everything but idevices.

This is not an iPhone problem. [superuser.com]

And further shows why USB SUCKS as a standard for anything.

Generally though, iPhones will charge with ANY USB charger. It's iPads that have more issues as they need more power.

Apple having these proprietary connectors is all about milking their captive market out of every last dime they have.

And has nothing at all do to with having a more capable connector with the capacity for much higher data transfer speeds, of course. It's purely to screw YOU even though it represents a tremendous amount of extra work for them.

Mission accomplished Apple! Toadlife considers himself screwed.

If you don't mind being nickle and dimed like that

Nickel and dimed how? I have a cable, perhaps two that I use for the life of the device. For the new connector I have an adaptor I use when I need an adaptor, the need for which diminishes over time. This is not a "nickel and dime" recurring bleed, this is a one time charge to adapt to a connector that is is better and simpler - than either the older iPhone connector OR Micro-USB.

Re:Most things still work (1)

toadlife (301863) | about 2 years ago | (#41415213)

And has nothing at all do to with having a more capable connector with the capacity for much higher data transfer speeds

No, it doesn't.

even though it represents a tremendous amount of extra work for them.

You honestly believe that inventing an entirely new connector takes less work that taking an existing standard form factor and adding pins to suit your needs?

Re:Most things still work (4, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41415519)

No, it doesn't.

You're right, because it ALSO results in a connector you can insert without having to look to see if it's in the right way, vastly superior for real people.

You honestly believe that inventing an entirely new connector takes less work that taking an existing standard form factor and adding pins to suit your needs?

Obviously not since my point is that people who believe Apple invented the new connector just to screw people, do not realize the amount of work that goes into building a whole new connector vs. simply overlaying functionality on top of an existing connector.

Apple would not go to extra work just to screw people over, as much as Apple haters would love us all to believe the opposite. Apple is doing what they have always done, taking people off an obsolete system (old iPhone cable, Micro-USB) before people have quite realized the old system is obsolete - as was the case for floppy drives or internal CD-ROM drives.

Re:F$^%$ers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412761)

I see you got modded -1 Overrated, e.g., -1 Disagree but I concur with your gripe here. If they were going to change connectors anyway why not do their customers a favor and go with standard micro-usb? What is so special about the iPhone that it requires some bulky dongle-esque data/charging plug when practically every other smartphone on the planet with equivalent functionality uses the standard? So now not only will I have to buy new accessories for my iPhone 5 but I can't use my iPad charger with it in a pinch or vice versa. And I'm sure the third-party bauble makers will be sure to charge extra for the privilege of me buying stuff featuring compatibility with said port. And all for basically nothing. Even if you pretended to buy the line that the connector allows more functionality than a micro-usb connector, why not just put the headphone jack and hdmi out next to the connector and call it a day. You'll be able to carry high bandwidth audio, video, and data to your heart's content and the device will still be compatible with all the old chargers and cables you already have laying around or that can be bought for 2 dollars at the drugstore. The way Apple fleeces their customers is shameful and the mind continues to boggle at how they bamboozled the EU into allowing this connector to even exist (or maybe the EU version has micro-usb and only the other 92 percent of the world population is getting offered the raw deal). Either way, it's just the latest money grab and as long as people line up to get screwed over without a peep it will continue to happen. Sad really.

Re:F$^%$ers (5, Interesting)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41412933)

Well, this article supposedly covers some of it: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-lightning-vs-micro-usb-2012-9 [businessinsider.com]

However, not owning a phone with micro-USB, I'm not sure how accurate it is. Anyone care to chime in?

Re:F$^%$ers (3, Informative)

c++0xFF (1758032) | about 2 years ago | (#41414911)

That link is a summary of anouer summary of another summary, and is quite simply stupid and incorrect.

Instead, look at the source link: http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/13/boom-2/ [brockerhoff.net]

and a follow-up post: http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/18/boom-a-follow-up/ [brockerhoff.net]

Lightning definitely has advantages over micro USB. And one big disadvantage: it's proprietary. Most manufacturers, thankfully, have to go with something standard, but Apple has the clout to ignore standards to their own (and, arguably, their customers') benefit.

Re:F$^%$ers (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41415303)

Thanks for those articles. Some interesting reading.

With that said, I still don't understand the hangup with the cable being proprietary. In six years of owning iPods and iPhones, as well as random devices that use micro-USB, I've never been annoyed at having to use two different cables. Honestly, the Lightning connector, despite the silly name, looks to be a better cable than micro-USB--namely, that should be easier to insert and is reversible. Is it really that big a deal, or are people looking for reasons to get upset?

Re:F$^%$ers (5, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#41412837)

Here's something extra to hate about them. They took away the god-awful proprietary 30 pin connector, and replaced it with a new god-awful smaller proprietary connector that remains incompatible with the rest of the world. Nobody's old apple-y devices, cables, or chargers will work with their new phones; and non-apple cables or devices will remain incompatible. Yay, Apple, your i5 adopters all get to replace a couple hundred dollars worth of peripherals each.

Well, there comes time to change. The dock connector is nearly a decade old, and being called to do stuff it was never envisioned to do so pins are heavily multiplexed and you still need to have protection circuits (after all, someone could still plug in a +48V firewire cable to it, even if the pins ar eused elsewhere, it still needs ot handle it gracefully). And other stuff get obsolete - do you really need composite, s-video and component video outputs these days? And other stuff gets bodged in (VGA, HDMI, USB host) In the end, the connector's a mess.

The new cable would at least be a bit more future-proof (the dock connector was designed for a time when iPods were king, and smartphones were a race between Blackberry, PalmOS, and WInMo, tablets were running Windows You can only expand it so much before it starts becoming a legacy maintainance nightmare.

So a new connector is needed, and it should take in mind it will have to handle stuff that may be coming soon (e.g., 3D, 4K video formats) as well as stuff that no one's thought of yet (because changing connectors is painful). It should also support what made the old connector good - an easy way to get line-out and headphone audio, an easy way to control the iPod and an easy way to get video.

So the best way to future proof it would be a connector that basically adapts some sort of bidirectional digital signalling system with adapters that produce the final output desired. If some fancy new way to hook up an iDevice to TVs comes out, a new adapter is all it takes (and supporting software), rather than having to figure out how to multiplex pins even more.

It's probably also why the Lightning to dock adapters are so bloody expensive - they've got signalling chips that transform the digital into stndard analog audio, serial control , etc that the old connector has).

Re:F$^%$ers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413617)

So a new connector is needed, and it should take in mind it will have to handle stuff that may be coming soon (e.g., 3D, 4K video formats) as well as stuff that no one's thought of yet (because changing connectors is painful). It should also support what made the old connector good - an easy way to get line-out and headphone audio, an easy way to control the iPod and an easy way to get video.

So the best way to future proof it would be a connector that basically adapts some sort of bidirectional digital signalling system with adapters that produce the final output desired. If some fancy new way to hook up an iDevice to TVs comes out, a new adapter is all it takes (and supporting software), rather than having to figure out how to multiplex pins even more.

Ok, I'll agree with all that -- but which part of that demands that it should be proprietary rather than an open standard, so there would be more devices compatible? That part of it -- the part that rubs people raw -- is all about Apple's profit.

Re:F$^%$ers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413713)

Which open standard handles all this? Oh, right, there isn't one unless you want to require more processing power (i.e. USB). You're frothing at the mouth over nothing.

Re:F$^%$ers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41414361)

Apple just invented an in-house standard -- they could publish a specification.

But they don't -- hurting their customers for their own profit. As long as customers still feel it's better than the alternatives, that's all well and good. But don't expect me to like it.

Re:F$^%$ers (3, Informative)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41412907)

I love all the angst over a cable. Isn't this the day and age of wireless syncing? Of online syncing? The only reason I've ever needed my iPhone cable in the past year is to charge it--and before iOS5, I only ever used it for software updates.

Peripherals? People act as though every iPhone user is now going to have to spend hundreds of dollars buying new peripherals. This ignores two things:

1. The obvious. There's an adapter you can buy. The Apple one is $30, but you can find them much cheaper on Amazon.
2. Not every iPhone user will have to spend hundreds on new peripherals. Personally, I will have to spend exactly $0. Of people I know, only one friend will need to buy a $30 set of speakers (that is--if he still uses them).

I've always found micro-USB a bit annoying to actually plug in. It's not an arduous task or anything, but it sometimes takes a couple tries if the cable manages to go in at an angle. That the new connector is reversible is pretty nifty.

Re:F$^%$ers (2)

cyber-vandal (148830) | about 2 years ago | (#41415391)

How does that work for iPod / iPhone docks where the idea is that the device fits snugly in the dock? Or for hi fis and car sound systems with the same thing? A lot of people have been shafted by this. Just because you and your friends haven't is pretending that the vast market for 3rd party peripherals is irrelevant.

Already Patented (-1, Troll)

ra1n85 (2708917) | about 2 years ago | (#41412413)

I'm nearly certain that "repairibility" is patented.
Sue them!

Re:Already Patented (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41413259)

I'm nearly certain that "repairibility" is patented.

No, Apple has the patent on "repairability" which is why the summary was forced to misspell it.

Perhaps a better screw (2)

pubwvj (1045960) | about 2 years ago | (#41412441)

Pentalobe fasteners are not a big deal. New and different screws, nuts and bolts are all the rage. It's been happening for, what, the last century? More? Sometimes they're actually an improvement and stick in the industry as the next great thing. The tools become available very quickly, or some of us make our own...

Re:Perhaps a better screw (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#41413381)

Except that no one has figured out a business case for the pentilobe other than messing with customer's heads. They could have switched out the Phillip's for Torx - that would be an improvement in a number of areas and follows an industry standard. But they had to make one of their own for some bizarre reason.

Re:Perhaps a better screw (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41414107)

The reason is that they couldn't make one with the hole shaped like an apple.

Re:Perhaps a better screw (4, Insightful)

pubwvj (1045960) | about 2 years ago | (#41414673)

You're thinking about it the wrong way. The new screw in each case is a challenge, a hurdle, an intelligence test. If you haven't got what it takes to figure out how to open the device then perhaps you shouldn't.

Re:Perhaps a better screw (1)

c++0xFF (1758032) | about 2 years ago | (#41414987)

There's one very good business case for pentalobe screws: make it so that only shops that pay a royalty can legally repair an iDevice.

Fortunately, its possible to get pentalobe drivers anyway.

Re:Perhaps a better screw (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | about 2 years ago | (#41414533)

But is the pentalobe fastener an improvement? Torx would be just fine and is used across the industry in small electronic devices. They even have tamper resistant torx that have a dot in the center.

The pentalobe connector is only used by Apple. No one else uses it. Most likely because it isn't any better. It only serves to sell new tools, or have some people that would otherwise have done their own repairs to take it to an authorized repair shop. The tamper resistant torx would have done the same.

I sometimes wonder why Apple didn't just switch to one way screws.

Lightning vs micro-usb (1)

SuneSpeg (662034) | about 2 years ago | (#41412465)

Will the lightning->micro usb adapter be free of charge (naive,and against the spirit of the EU directive), or how will this device comply with EN 301489-34 directive?

Re:Lightning vs micro-usb (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#41412593)

Will the lightning->micro usb adapter be free of charge (naive,and against the spirit of the EU directive), or how will this device comply with EN 301489-34 directive?

I believe in the EU boxes, they don't provide a USB-Lightning cable, but a USB-micro cable + micro-Lightning adapter. Just like they did for the iPhone 4s and others - a USB-micro cable and a micro-dock adapter. It's hard to tell, but where the strain relief is on the normal USB-dock cable, it's actually a little nub for the USB micro cable. A quick glance or at a distance and it's impossible ot tell.

So it complies - EU folks get a different cable to begin with and have the option of buying more.

Complies with spirit (4, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41412597)

The real point behind the directive is that over time people just have USB chargers they can use with anything, right?

Well the iPhone ships with a USB charger. Sure the port at the other end is different but in the end you can have one charger for many devices, with just a few cables.

An important point to consider is that if you just stick yourself with pure USB end to end, you cannot get as much power through the system to charge quickly.

Re:Complies with spirit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413437)

The real point behind the directive is that over time people just have USB chargers they can use with anything, right?

Well the iPhone ships with a USB charger. Sure the port at the other end is different but in the end you can have one charger for many devices, with just a few cables.

Yes, with just a few cables. In case you missed it, the point was not to "just have USB chargers and a few cables". Motorola managed to expand a mini-USB with additional contacts for audio and such, while still being compatible with a standard mini-B cable -- surely it's not like Apple couldn't do something similar for micro-B if they put their minds to it? Then it could ship with a standard micro-B charger as intended by the standard, but docks could use the custom connector with extra contacts for more magic.

An important point to consider is that if you just stick yourself with pure USB end to end, you cannot get as much power through the system to charge quickly.

Bullshit. V1.2 of the USB battery charging specification permits up to 5A of current. This dates to 2010, so it's not like Apple hasn't had plenty of time to use it instead of their proprietary plug.

Re:Complies with spirit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41414529)

The real point behind the directive is that over time people just have USB chargers they can use with anything, right?

Well the iPhone ships with a USB charger. Sure the port at the other end is different but in the end you can have one charger for many devices, with just a few cables.

Yes, with just a few cables. In case you missed it, the point was not to "just have USB chargers and a few cables". Motorola managed to expand a mini-USB with additional contacts for audio and such, while still being compatible with a standard mini-B cable -- surely it's not like Apple couldn't do something similar for micro-B if they put their minds to it? Then it could ship with a standard micro-B charger as intended by the standard, but docks could use the custom connector with extra contacts for more magic.

An important point to consider is that if you just stick yourself with pure USB end to end, you cannot get as much power through the system to charge quickly.

Bullshit. V1.2 of the USB battery charging specification permits up to 5A of current. This dates to 2010, so it's not like Apple hasn't had plenty of time to use it instead of their proprietary plug.

The Micro-USB not. Its limit is 850mAh. So have fun with charging an iPad for 24 hours.

Re:Complies with spirit (0)

Algae_94 (2017070) | about 2 years ago | (#41414583)

Bullshit. V1.2 of the USB battery charging specification permits up to 5A of current. This dates to 2010, so it's not like Apple hasn't had plenty of time to use it instead of their proprietary plug.

If anyone is not quite sure how much 5 A is, it is enough to power a small belt sander [amazon.com] . If there is a device that takes more current to charge than a belt sander, I'd love to hear about it.

Re:Complies with spirit (3, Informative)

Megane (129182) | about 2 years ago | (#41414779)

5 amps at 5 volts is 25 watts. 5 amps at 110 volts is 550 watts. That's 22 times the power. Lrn2electricity.

Re:Complies with spirit (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | about 2 years ago | (#41414607)

I have something like five iPhone dock cables - these are cables I've built up from owning various iPods over the years.

Of course, I have even more USB micro-B cables. You know, the data cable that every fucking phone that isn't an Apple piece of shit uses? And then, even more USB mini-B cables. (By "mini/micro B" I mean the A end is standard sized.)

Do you know how many iPhone 5 cables I have? Absolutely none! Moving the iPhone 5 off the crap Apple needless proprietary cable is a good idea. Replacing it with a brand new proprietary cable? Absolutely braindead.

Do you know why it's nice to have everything use one cable? Because I carry around a USB micro B and two USB mini B cables with my laptop. I have a couple of USB cables connected to my PS3 at home. I have a couple connected to my desktop. If I arrive at work and need to charge my phone, I don't need to go hunting for a cable, I already have one dedicated to my work computer!

And, no, they don't need a "special dock cable" to do video out or whatever Apple's bullshit reason is for that. Every single digital camera I've ever owned for the past decade managed to do video out without needing a proprietary connector. The newer ones even include HDMI.

Cable count? Fine, lets talk cable count (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41415001)

Of course, I have even more USB micro-B cables.

So do I. And the other kinds of micro-USB cables, something like five or six possible ends... I have a micro-USB cable for my hard drive, a slightly different tiny micro-USB connector for my camera. And if I want to plug in a hard drive dock why THAT's a whole other kind of USB connector. I have a travel USB adaptor with several different ends to attach.

So how is that any better? The Apple cable as far as I'm concerned is just one of the several cables I'll need to attach and/or charge a device over USB anyway. The world of USB is not the world of a single cable, it never has been.

If USB had ever really had a connector standard I might agree with you, although universally all of the micro-USB connectors are terrible in quality and are practically designed to degrade. But there is no REAL micro-USB standard, the cables are confusing an I'm happy to have at least one USB cable I can actually tell at a glance is for sure one of the ones I need to pack on a trip.

Do you know how many iPhone 5 cables I have? Absolutely none!

And people owning an iPhone 5 have one, as many as they need. You obviously do not need one.

And if the iPhone 5 owners get the Micro-USB adaptor they can just carry that with them and use all the same cables you use.

And, no, they don't need a "special dock cable" to do video out or whatever Apple's bullshit reason is for that.

And USB 3.0 connections as is rumored to happen with the new dock connector? Oh that's right, you are screwed because you picked devices that standardized on an ancient IO standard with the worst connector design ever devised by man.

The new connector has a wide range of possible I/O interfaces, video is only a tiny example. Apple has a connector designed for future I/O needs, not one struggling just to keep up because it was designed many years before modern devices. In the end remember this; you are using a connector based on a GOVERNMENT choice to standardize on, rather than a connector designed by the industry to be future proof.

Re:Lightning vs micro-usb (0)

joh (27088) | about 2 years ago | (#41412603)

It looks as if Apple will comply by offering to sell you an adapter if you need one.

I'm not really sure if they'll get away with this.

Re:Lightning vs micro-usb (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412693)

Ships in the box free with all euro models. This is an AUS unit, so no freebies. It's ok. They're used to being price gouged on consumer goods anyway.

I know most people don't care, but I'm actually fine with the new dock connector. I feel the reasoning behind picking it are sound, especially if you understand Apple's motives. Here are my guesses for the major reasons:

1. USB 3.0 - The usb 2.0 micro B connector is small, but the 3.0 version is gigantic in comparison! I really don't understand the design. It's side-by-side design is more than 2x larger, for only 2x the pins. Putting the usb 3.0 B connector on the phone would take as much space as the old 30pin dock connector. - As far as I know, the iphone 5 is the first phone to implement usb 3.0.

2. Mechanical - The dock connector is also a mechanical mount of sorts. The phone rests on it when in a cradle, and uses it for stablity. The standard mini B connector does not provide this function

2a. It looks like the new dock connector is made for a very long life with many insertions. I know the mini b connector is supposed to be engineered for this too, but I've got a feeling that apple's engineers found it inadiequte during their own testing. (I've also seen evidence that the mini b connector has long life mechanical issues

3. Reversable- Its easy to plug in. don't have to worry about up or down. This may seem trivial, but this feature alone is a HUGE win for usablity. You'd be surprised how much people value not having to deal with a frequent but minor annoyance.

3a. The above is actually a side effect of a more important feature - Logic driven, programmable interface. The old 30 dock connector was in many ways pretty low tech and analog. It had a lot of redundant pins with different uses. You often had to do strange things like put resistors or diodes on certain pins, and which pins were actually active would vary between device. The new port is a completely digital, with all functions being enumerated over a common protocol. It also looks like the port is able to configure and assign pins on the fly (Outputting whatever signal is needed at the moment) It cleans up almost 10 years of cruft and hacks and adds a lot of new possibilities.

Re:Lightning vs micro-usb (1)

FreeFire (1957226) | about 2 years ago | (#41413067)

The new lightning connector isn't USB 3.0, it's still 2.0 I doubt if USB 3.0 would make much difference on any current phones; I don't believe they can even saturate USB 2.0.

Re:Lightning vs micro-usb (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413345)

I could of sworn I'd seen that during the livecast of the keynote. Further searching is inconclusive. (Some people think it does, others do not)
Still, one COULD run usb 3.0 over the new dock connector in the future (And the old 30 pin one too, with some pin reassignment) And you would not have to give up any of your old docks or cables.

For that matter, I'm entirely certain usb 2 is the bottleneck for transfers on/off my iphone 4. It's not hard to saturate usb2, given that the protocol is pretty inefficient and has lots of overhead.

You've got to admit... (1)

tippe (1136385) | about 2 years ago | (#41412495)

They have nice hardware designs. If only all electronics were that well made.

Too bad they're such assholes though... it means I won't be buying one.

Pentalobe is not proprietary (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412521)

I've had pentalobe drivers since before Jobs went back to apple and at least 15 years before the iPhone ever existed.

Just because you aren't used to seeing them on all the crap you buy designed to be as cheap as possible.

Pentalobe bolts are about a thousand times more reliable than Phillips heads, which are DESIGNED TO STRIP WHEN CRAPPY FACTORY WORKERS OVER TORQUE the screw/bolt during assembly.

Every time you call pentalobe proprietary you just make your ignorance and inner fanboy obvious.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (3, Informative)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41412591)

Torx fulfills that need and is far more common.

Like you said, with phillips heads the bit jumping the grooves is a design feature not a flaw.

Pentalobe is just a little less common, but not hard to get either.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (4, Informative)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41412713)

I've had pentalobe drivers since before Jobs went back to apple and at least 15 years before the iPhone ever existed.

Just because you aren't used to seeing them on all the crap you buy designed to be as cheap as possible.

I call BS on this, everything I've googled is stating that Pentalobe is a new design that Apple came up with. It is very similar to the Torx screw, but incompatible by design. Unless you have some link to prove that pentalobe is not a new design, I'm gonna say you are shilling or mistaken.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (0)

shoes58 (1203522) | about 2 years ago | (#41413075)

I call BS on your BS! Here, took all of 5 seconds to find: http://www.mcmaster.com/#pentalobe-screwdriver-bits/=je2gwq [mcmaster.com] Troll...

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (2)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41413147)

"Five-Point Tamper-Resistant Torx-Plus" =/= Pentalobe, the shape is very definitely different (Torx-Plus is pentagonal with straight side, pentalobe has... lobular sides). See Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] for a picture. Note that this is probably the source of the confusion: it looks almost, but not quite, like a Torx.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (2)

CaptBubba (696284) | about 2 years ago | (#41413245)

That is a different design/layout, missing the indentations between the points of the screw driver. Here's the one used on the iPhone: http://twitpic.com/3rt9sa [twitpic.com]

You might be able to drive the Apple screw with the torx bit,but the bumps in the screw head look like they would block it. That's assuming you could get one small enough. Nobody is saying that there were not 5-spline screw heads before the iPhone 4, just that this particular head is new and apparently chosen as it was esoteric enough that existing 5-spline bits wouldn't fit.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (3)

FreeFire (1957226) | about 2 years ago | (#41413213)

I looked at Google stuff too, and found nowhere that claimed the Pentalobular is a NEW design by Apple. Torx has a Pentalobular in various sizes; I'd presume they've been around for a while, especially since they come in sizes not used by Apple.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (3)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about 2 years ago | (#41413547)

According to this [gizbot.com] the Pentalobe is an Apple invention. I'm not gonna go do a patent search, I'll leave that to some other genius.

Re:Pentalobe is not proprietary (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41413365)

Pentalobe bolts are about a thousand times more reliable than Phillips heads, which are DESIGNED TO STRIP WHEN CRAPPY FACTORY WORKERS OVER TORQUE the screw/bolt during assembly.

Uh no. Philips was invented to eliminate cam-out, which it all but does when the screwdriver is lined up perfectly with the screw. Since it doesn't actually eliminate cam-out, we got torx, which does. And since Torx is more expensive to make than philips (especially the fasteners themselves) we also got ACR, or "anti cam-out ridges". These little ridges ground into the tips of screwdrivers are usually found on tools with snazzy names including "bite" and such, and they provide the same function for the tip of the tool that knurling provides for your fingers: grip.

Sooo... (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | about 2 years ago | (#41412601)

They're making their smart phones more repairable and their MacBooks less repairable? I'm not following the line of logic.

Re:Sooo... (4, Informative)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41413005)

It's perfectly logical: Making it easier to repair makes it cheaper (for the tech) to repair.

1. They sell more iPhones than they do MacBooks.
2. iPhones break more than MacBooks--there's #1, and also the fact that people carry their phones everywhere.
3. The most common breaking point of an iPhone is the screen.
4. Making the screen easier to remove makes it cheaper to replace.

MacBooks don't have nearly the number of accidents, so they can lock it down a bit more in their quest for nicely fitting and ultra-thin hardware.

Re:Sooo... (1)

jbolden (176878) | about 2 years ago | (#41413561)

The line of logic is simple: repairability is a plus since it cuts their repair costs. Repair costs a relatively larger on the phones than the computer and Apple loses money on phone warranties. That being said, they are willing to lose money for thin and light.

Re:Sooo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413693)

Because you are missing the point. "Repairability" isn't a primary design goal of either one.
Smaller, thinner,lighter,better are the drivers. More "repairable" in a laptop means compromising
on other things, so they don't do it. (Note this is a side effect - Contrary to the iHaters who
say they do it intentionally to screw people over). I the case here, moving to the uni-body housing
makes the phone smaller, lighter but also means easier to assemble/disassemble.

EU connector mandate (0)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about 2 years ago | (#41412817)

I thought the EU mandated all new phones to have the same USB connector to end the huge e-waste of discarded chargers with proprietary connectors.

Wait, let me guess: Apple got some sort of bullshit waiver for being totally cool and tubular.

Re:EU connector mandate (1)

WilliamBaughman (1312511) | about 2 years ago | (#41412905)

The iPhone5 ships with an adapter in the EU: iPhone 5 Scorns Standards Promise To European Commission [slashdot.org] .

Re:EU connector mandate (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41413327)

The iPhone5 ships with an adapter in the EU:

Not according to what I've read; the adapter is not included, and costs thirty pounds. The law does not require that the adapter be included; it only requires that you make one available. In other words, you can charge for it. And apparently, you can charge as much as many people pay for their whole fucking phone, with contract anyway.

Re:EU connector mandate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41412993)

The Apple cares not for your problems dirt-dweller!

Sweat and toil for The Apple

Re:EU connector mandate (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 2 years ago | (#41413999)

"Wait, let me guess: Apple got some sort of bullshit waiver for being totally cool and tubular."

The iPhone is not a phone. It's not a phone at all.

It's 100% COMPLETE FUCKING AMAZEBALLS! That's what it is. So, naturally it does not fall under the phone requirement.

I knew it (1)

kilodelta (843627) | about 2 years ago | (#41412853)

5.4Wh - at 3.9oz. My Android phone with extended 9.7Wh battery weighs 6.5oz. Sorry, I'll take the additional battery lifetime for the weight.

Re:I knew it (1)

Balial (39889) | about 2 years ago | (#41412887)

... then you could buy a 2.6oz battery case?

Re:I knew it (1)

kilodelta (843627) | about 2 years ago | (#41413161)

Yeah - I watched the tear down of the iPhone 5 - interesting enough but the battery is still way underpowered for a smart phone. I think it gives 5.4Wh, whereas the extended battery pack in my Samsung SCH-R910 Android gives me 9.7Wh. I'll take the ability to easily swap out a battery pack over one sealed into a unit thank you.

Re:I knew it (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41415515)

More important than the battery size is battery life. The iPhone 5 seems to get better life than the Indulge, even though the Indulge has a much larger battery.

Maybe for you, the ability to swap out batteries is an important feature. I think that Apple's sales prove that it isn't a big factor for their customers. I wonder if there's any data on how many people tote around extra batteries for their phones?

Re:I knew it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413175)

Or more like the large battery is compensating for something...

Fractured glass + vacuum (2)

sayno2quat (1651749) | about 2 years ago | (#41412867)

So you need to remove fractured glass with a suction cup? Let me know how that works out for you...

Re:Fractured glass + vacuum (3, Insightful)

blueg3 (192743) | about 2 years ago | (#41413221)

No, you only need to remove it with a suction cup if you want the thing to stay in one piece. Not a problem if it's already broken.

Re:Fractured glass + vacuum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41414323)

Just put some tape over the glass for the suction cup to stick to.

Not a big deal.

Interesting (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41413241)

Is it just me who clicked on the video to check out the girl?

oh, ffs... (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about 2 years ago | (#41413359)

...wasn't one of the bugbears I've been reading about elsewhere, the proprietary connectors Apple seems to love using? This is why I won't buy Apple: until they use a standard connector, I won't go fucking near one.

Re:oh, ffs... (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41415555)

I'm sorry, there's way more rage over the cable than makes sense.

Mandatory Tom Baker (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41414341)

Repairability? What? No its not repairability, have a look in your dictionary - its reparability. I can say repairability if you want but the word is reparability. What do you want me to say - repairability or reparability? I'm thorough, I look things up in the dictionary before I come here...but my view is the man on the building side wouldn't pick it up.

Reason no Micro USB (1)

Fool106 (977984) | about 2 years ago | (#41414689)

Pretty good take on the whole cable thing. http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/13/boom-2/ [brockerhoff.net] From the article: People keep asking why Apple didn’t opt for the micro-USB connector. The answer is simple: that connector isn’t smart enough. It has only 5 pins: +5V, Ground, 2 digital data pins, and a sense pin, so most of the dock connector functions wouldn’t work – only charging and syncing would. Also, the pins are so small that no current plug/connector manufacturer allows the 2A needed for iPad charging. Note that this refers to individual pins; I’ve been told that several devices manage to get around this by some trick or other, but I couldn’t find any standard for doing so.

Who repairs the most iPhones? (2)

clonehappy (655530) | about 2 years ago | (#41415541)

While this is most definitely great news for the DIY crowd and the independent repair shops, I don't think it was necessarily done to make things easier on us. Not trash-talking Apple at all for this move, but this is going to save them a metric shitton of money in the long run.

Apple replaces/repairs so many devices with cracked screens that bringing the repair time down from 45 minutes to practically nothing will make the profit margins on their warranties and AppleCare coverage skyrocket. And makes those of us who do these things for fun and profit very happy. Smart business move from all standpoints.

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