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Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the anonymous-cowards-welcome-here dept.

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Qedward writes "Freedom to go under a pseudonym is, miraculously, one freedom to survive the security lock-down of the previous decade. Now Facebook wants to change this. James Firth shows Facebook is clamping down on pseudonyms, with an interesting screenshot of being asked whether a friend is using their real name."

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Everyone should post as Anonymous (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416667)

If you have comments you should post them as Anonymous... because we can.

Re:Everyone should post as Anonymous (2)

macbeth66 (204889) | about 2 years ago | (#41417397)

I do that now, with all of my email. Of course, it comes across as garbled garbage to my friends. Not that they would notice the difference as the garbage I write in emails is only slightly less crappier than what I post on Slashdot.

Re:Everyone should post as Anonymous (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417587)

Anonymous is good, no doubt, but I'd say that pseudonyms are often better because a pseudonym, even if they are personally unknown, helps set context. Comments on issues which are complex often can't realistically be partitioned to be exhaustive in themselves. For some people here, at least, I'm familiar with their basic worldview from their other posts, and their comment or argument can placed in that wider context for deeper consideration, at least implicitly.

I want to keep both, and at least in terms of productive discussion of topics upon which all parties don't already agree, the 'net will be dead to me the day these are lost.

Re:Everyone should post as Anonymous (2)

icebike (68054) | about 2 years ago | (#41417695)

The story was written by Qedward and posted by Soulkill.

How much more Anonymous do you need to be?

Someone please tell Facebook that (5, Insightful)

Presto Vivace (882157) | about 2 years ago | (#41416669)

nobody ever won a war with their customers

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (5, Informative)

Frac O Mac (1138427) | about 2 years ago | (#41416709)

Everyone seems to forget that we aren't the customers, we're the product. This is all about increasing the quality of their data for their real customers.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (5, Insightful)

joelwhitehouse (2571813) | about 2 years ago | (#41416777)

Everyone seems to forget that we aren't the customers, we're the product. This is all about increasing the quality of their data for their real customers.

Exactly. Facebook has admitted that 80 million accounts are fake [cnn.com] ; now it needs to take steps to reassure customers that the eyeballs they've been selling are real.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (4, Insightful)

dgatwood (11270) | about 2 years ago | (#41417057)

If, as they have said, their "entire platform is based on people using their real identities", then their entire platform is fundamentally flawed. No one should be forced to use their real identity for any purposes online, and the harder companies like Facebook try to force people to do so (and the more sites that use Facebook for authentication), the more backlash there will be against Facebook, and the more traction alternative services will get.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (5, Insightful)

dgatwood (11270) | about 2 years ago | (#41417119)

Incidentally, none of Facebook's accounts are fake. They all represent an online identity. Whether those identities maps 1:1 to physical users or not is irrelevant. There are still actual humans using the accounts, viewing ads, contributing to the usefulness of the platform, etc. There is no legitimate reason for Facebook to be concerned about these accounts that do not center around fundamental invasions of personal privacy, such as correlating user behavior outside of Facebook with what they do and say inside of Facebook.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1, Insightful)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41417171)

Unfortunately Facebook is a private company and they own the servers, so they get to dictate what data is and is not allowed.

They don't NEED a reason, legitimate or otherwise, to concern themselves with whatever they see fit.

Our facetime, however, is ours, and we may in turn see fit not to patronize them if we don't like what they're doing.

Since they sprung the trap after luring us in, and refuse to delete our data even if we tell them to, we're really not in much of a position to negotiate since they already have us by the balls.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (2, Funny)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | about 2 years ago | (#41417341)

Technically, Facebook recently became a public company.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (0)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41417517)

Private as in private, non government property.

The kind of situation where first amendment rights don't apply, smart-ass.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417631)

No, they didn't. They became a publicly traded company. This is distinctly different from a public company.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1)

dgatwood (11270) | about 2 years ago | (#41417575)

Unfortunately Facebook is a private company and they own the servers, so they get to dictate what data is and is not allowed.

Nobody said otherwise. What I said was any justification is almost guaranteed to be something that most people would find unacceptable. Sure, users' only real recourse is to switch services, but that can happen; just ask Myspace.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417083)

I have two accounts using the same name, birthday and background. I have 3 other accounts that are completely fake. I've had them for a couple of years and it doesn't seem Facebook is doing much. The 3 fake ones are just game puppets and no one knows who they really are anyway. I guess if it comes up they can all vouch for each other.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417651)

triangulation complete.

user identified.

sending adds for world of warcraft and pizza...complete!

I don't think so (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417375)

Uhm, explain how those eyes viewing pages are not real just because they are not using their real name. All the data coming in is real, and can still be extrapolated backwards to point to an individual. Just because I may use the name Sparky McNipplenuts does not mean I am fabricating an entire reality for this pseudonym, cause that would be far more trouble than it was worth.

In fact, I'll argue the opposite. That if you allow, even encourage, the use of a false name, you will get *better* data becuase people relax if they think they are anonymous. they do more searches, they look at more "taboo" things, than they would if they had to do it openly.

supply chain (1)

Presto Vivace (882157) | about 2 years ago | (#41416845)

Just as you say. Yet I am not sure that making war on your supply chain is much of an improvement.

Re:supply chain (2)

sconeu (64226) | about 2 years ago | (#41416895)

Ask Apple.

Re:supply chain (2)

flaming error (1041742) | about 2 years ago | (#41416947)

And Wal-Mart.

Facebooks product, customers, and suppliers (4, Interesting)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41416865)

Everyone seems to forget that we aren't the customers, we're the product.

While its true that Facebook's customers are those purchasing ads, the rest is not quite right.

Facebook users are suppliers, not products. Their attention is the raw material for the product, which demographically targetted advertising.

The utility (in the economic system) provided by Facebook's system to the users is the payment from the product vendor to its suppliers.

Re:Facebooks product, customers, and suppliers (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417303)

Facebook users are suppliers, not products. Their attention is the raw material for the product, which demographically targetted advertising.

Nope, sorry, that doesn't make a conveniently dehumanizing enough sound bite to repeat ad nauseum whenever the poster needs a quick jolt of smug self-importance for not using Facebook/Google/etc. You'll have to do better than that.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417455)

Saying we're the product is popular (mentioned on Slashdot just about any time an advertising company does something unpopular, and it's a cliche trotted out when more [highschool?] students learn it every year), but I'm not entirely sure it's all that useful a distinction. Facebook does stuff like this to extract more value out of users, plain and simple. Does it really matter if "users" are buying Facebook's services or selling their attention? The whole concept of buyer/seller is arbitrary in a non-monetary transaction like this.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417467)

Everyone seems to forget that we aren't the customers, we're the product. This is all about increasing the quality of their data for their real customers.

Er, "Everyone"?

From the average 12-year old to the 85-year old Great-Grandmother, I have yet to run across someone using Facebook as a "customer" or a "product". They use it because it's free. They use it because it's cool. 90% of people on there don't even know their data is being sold, and therefore are absofuckinglutely clueless as to quality of data, or real customers.

People who sell shit for a living don't have a clue.

There is forgetting, and there is blind ignorance. Don't confuse the two.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 2 years ago | (#41417559)

Everyone seems to forget that we aren't the customers, we're the product.

Nobody ever won a war with their product.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416715)

Microsoft has been waging a war on their customers for about 15 years...

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (4, Funny)

bhcompy (1877290) | about 2 years ago | (#41416761)

15? Nah. 10? Yes. Ribbons were a declaration of war.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | about 2 years ago | (#41417331)

you're both wrong. MS has been waging war since WFW 3.11

Cell companies have. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416785)

Don't kid yourself.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417139)

The beauty of facebook is that it has absolutely no value. I use it because it is there. If they boot me off, then it's no great loss.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (1)

shentino (1139071) | about 2 years ago | (#41417149)

Well the citizens of Monticello already told that to TDS, and they were wrong.

You can easily win a war with your customers if you're a monopoly.

Re:Someone please tell Facebook that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417393)

nobody ever won a war with their customers

...except when providing service everyone needs and can't do without. Grocery stores, energy companies, hospitals.

What if God were Anonymous? (1)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41416675)

Yes, anonymity is valuable! Especially for spammers.

And God is one hell of a spammer. (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416815)

Assholes show up at my door trying to give me copies of "his book" all the time or speaking of his son, like those parents who won't let you leave the room without seeing a photo of their child, but it's the same child and the parents are everywhere.

Re:What if God were Anonymous? (0)

elucido (870205) | about 2 years ago | (#41416851)

Yes, anonymity is valuable! Especially for spammers.

God is everywhere and nowhere at the same time?

Facebook snitches (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416679)

Get stitches.

Snitches end up in ditches (4, Funny)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41416681)

In my case some of these people are expert army sharpshooters and/or former paratroopers

So no, I'm not snitching

Re:Snitches end up in ditches (4, Funny)

interval1066 (668936) | about 2 years ago | (#41417239)

I'm not snitching

Are you kidding? I understand you get 10,000 "likes" for every friend you snitch on. Now that's real value...

Re:Snitches end up in ditches (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417675)

But WAIT! There's more! Snitch on three friends today and we'll throw in 2 hours of yard time (A 100 cigarette value) for FREE!

id wonder if .... (2)

metalmaster (1005171) | about 2 years ago | (#41416701)

John imsoclevercauseichangedmymiddlename Smith is targeted under this new scrutiny. There are probably 20-30 people on my facebook who do that.

Confession time (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416713)

My last name isn't Coward; it's actually Smith.

Anonymous is my real given name though. Life has not been kind to me ever since 4chan took off.

Re:Anonymous is my real given name though. (3, Interesting)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about 2 years ago | (#41417199)

That would actually be an epic thing to see. It would make for a beautiful legal decision "you can't change your name to one that causes social confusion". The Artist Formerly Known As Prince could submit an amicus brief on it too.

Re:Anonymous is my real given name though. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417567)

Changing your name by deed-poll is currently easier than changing your online identity if you have a regularly used Facebook account. I'm one of the annoying "I'm not on Facebook" crowd, I never have been, and I'm increasingly glad of it as I see Facebook desperately try to power grab as their share price plummets. Be afraid people, if they survive it won't be because they're sending people free puppies.

Re:Confession time (1)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 2 years ago | (#41417345)

I'm going to name my nondescript cattle ranch after you. From now on it will be known as the Anonymous Cow Yard.

Please help us (5, Insightful)

mtrachtenberg (67780) | about 2 years ago | (#41416737)

Please help us understand how people are using Facebook:

Is this your friend's real name?

Do you really like this friend?

Has this friend ever sent you any revealing pictures?

How much do you think this friend spends on entertainment? clothes? shoes? online services?

Please estimate the odds that this so-called friend might be a terrorist?

If you had to describe this friend to Facebook and the DHS, which of the following descriptions would you use: creative? avant-garde? obedient? disruptive?

Facebook appreciates your answers and respects your privacy. Thank you.

Re:Please help us (0, Troll)

sgage (109086) | about 2 years ago | (#41416765)

What kind of idiots are on Facebook anyway?

Re:Please help us (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416879)

The sheep kind.

Re:Please help us (5, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#41416887)

What kind of idiots are on Facebook anyway?

Well just remember those of us that are 'sane' and don't have an account, are apparently psychopaths [mashable.com] now. So fuck'em. I'd rather be a psychopath, then I can get free room and board, along with happy-trip meds.

Re:Please help us (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417195)

& she has green eyes too. I have green eyes and I'm not on fb. I'm must be a psychopath too.

Re:Please help us (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417423)

All of them.

Re:Please help us (2)

Art Challenor (2621733) | about 2 years ago | (#41416857)

The only reason Facebook would ask if someone were a terrorist is so that they can better direct advertising at them!

Re:Please help us (5, Funny)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#41417101)

Exactly! How can you advertise the right kind of bomb making material coupons without knowing who is and who is not a terrorist? I suppose trolling the "jobs" section Facebook profiles would help, but this is more targeted (no pun intended).... so the money saving coupons from "Jihads are Us" and "72 Virgin Megastore" go to the proper terrorists.

It's a win win!

Re:Please help us (1)

dgatwood (11270) | about 2 years ago | (#41417169)

Is this your friend's real name?

No

Do you really like this friend?

No

Has this friend ever sent you any revealing pictures?

Eww. No.

How much do you think this friend spends on entertainment? clothes? shoes? online services?

Don't know. Ask him/her yourself.

Please estimate the odds that this so-called friend might be a terrorist?

About the same as the general population, give or take.

If you had to describe this friend to Facebook and the DHS, which of the following descriptions would you use: creative? avant-garde? obedient? disruptive?

Leftist and litigious.

I think that's where the conversation would end abruptly.

Re:Please help us (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about 2 years ago | (#41417247)

(Bitter Satire)
Hi user mtrachtenberg.

Are you the actress Michelle Trachtenberg? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005502/ [imdb.com]
With an ID that low and the "wrong" gender I am guessing not.

Re:Please help us (-1, Flamebait)

jo42 (227475) | about 2 years ago | (#41417519)

Is this your friend's real name?

No. His real name is Mark Douchebag-Berg.

Do you really like this friend?

Only after he bought out my company for $1 billion (give or take a few hundred million).

Has this friend ever sent you any revealing pictures?

Vegas. 'nuff said.

How much do you think this friend spends on entertainment? clothes? shoes? online services?

More than most small countries.

Please estimate the odds that this so-called friend might be a terrorist?

He's a completely different kind of Evil. Greater than any boogeyman (aka 'terrorist') 'threat'.

If you had to describe this friend to Facebook and the DHS, which of the following descriptions would you use: creative? avant-garde? obedient? disruptive?

Money grubbing, privacy invading Semite.

It's time to move on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416745)

My interest in facebook has been waning for a while now...this is the last straw for me...snitch away, shut down my account, I won't open another...hmmm...what's myspace been up to lately?

Why stop at fake names? (2)

Bongoots (795869) | about 2 years ago | (#41416803)

Fake date of birth, fake profile picture, fake location details, ...

This could be a good little snitching exercise, but then Fakebook would lose so many under-13s* that their userbase would practically halve. And that's just tackling DOBs, let alone the other details.

(*I'm not condoning under-13s being on the website, only stating the fact that there are a lot of children who signed up with fake DOBs.)

Re:Why stop at fake names? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417469)

Rule #1 for my kids: never ever use real information. There's a time and place for it, but not on Facebook or other 'social' and gaming website.

Facebook encourages snitch culture in general (4, Interesting)

elucido (870205) | about 2 years ago | (#41416833)

Just look at how it's designed. It's designed to encourage snitch culture.
Let me make it clear, telling the truth isn't the same as snitching. Witnessing isn't the same as snitching. And helping the police isn't the same as snitching. Snitching is telling on your own side.

The problem with Facebook itself is it doesn't care about ethics or the risks associated with making everyone stalkable. Facebook is a stalker friendly application while at the same time snitch friendly. That combination isn't a good mix. For example if you have a friend who has a stalker maybe you shouldn't reveal their last name on Facebook even if you know it, and maybe you shouldn't tell Facebook whether or not they are using a pseudonym.

On the other hand maybe they shouldn't be on Facebook.

Re:Facebook encourages snitch culture in general (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41416923)

And helping the police isn't the same as snitching. Snitching is telling on your own side.

The problem is, there are so many sides.

Re:Facebook encourages snitch culture in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417113)

I only count two:

1. Advertisers, who want to know every last detail of your life.
2. People (i.e. the products), who want to keep up with friends.

Facebook is not on the users side, because their users are their products; the advertisers are the true customers, therefore it is the advertisers side that Facebook is on. This move is clearly in an effort to improve ad revenue at the expense of the user... the user who wishes to go by a pseudonym and remain semi-anonymous. If you betray that wish by reporting them to Facebook, then make no mistake you are going against "your side."

Re:Facebook encourages snitch culture in general (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41417231)

I only count two:

I was addressing the quoted text in my comment, which is how these things work. HTH, HAND.

Re:stalker friendly application (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417327)

Hi there stud! You have a great mind and a great ass!

Luv,

Your friendly global-village stalker!

PS I'll be watching you! mmm.

Re:Facebook encourages snitch culture in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417351)

If your "friends" are truly your real world friends you should be fine. If you are befriending all kinds of people on FB than guess what, people that are not your true friends but know you enough to know your real name will know everything about you and can easily rat you out. It's your own damn fault.

I have a FB account but the only people I use it for is my relatives because they live all over the place and it's nice to frequently read about what they are doing and talk to them without calling them. I also have some high school buddies in the mix that I still maintain frequent real world contact with. Again same reasons. Even with that, I use it sparingly. These are people that already know a lot more about me than what I would ever put up on FB.

I know both of my kids (age 21 and 22) both have multiple accounts (a real one and a fake one), its good to know they are smart enough to at least make an attempt to have some privacy but who knows if two accounts really helps.

Using or encouraging the use of Facebook is crimin (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416839)

ally irresponsible. The only solution is PlainBoards.com [plainboards.com] . Please help spread the word.

Re:Using or encouraging the use of Facebook is cri (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417015)

"Criminally"?

Are you really that dumb, or are you some kind of reverse-shill for Facebook trying to make its critics look like morons?

Bullshit (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416917)

From Facebook's help center:

When everyone uses their real first and last names, people can know who they're connecting with. This helps keep our community safe.

God damn it, Facebook, what does that even mean? How does a name have any relationship to safety? How do you know who you're connecting with just from a name? That gives you no information about the person unless you already have information to associate to it. Even if you had information, how does a name convey who you are? I can say my name is John Smith and good luck finding me among all the other John Smiths.

This help center entry is stupid hand-waving tripe at best and propaganda at worst.

Re:Bullshit (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#41417053)

But if nobody used their real name, address or relattionships they'd be safer. At least from stalkers.

99%... okay 90% u$ers polled don't care. (1)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | about 2 years ago | (#41416919)

Facebook users don't care, and get angry when you try to eduucate them. They think I'm crazy,, but mostly I post inane rubbish just to keep the data miners off kilter.. Spam away!

Re:99%... okay 90% u$ers polled don't care. (3)

BlueStrat (756137) | about 2 years ago | (#41417279)

Facebook users don't care, and get angry when you try to eduucate them. They think I'm crazy,, but mostly I post inane rubbish just to keep the data miners off kilter.. Spam away!

Just don't post anti-big-government opinions and Canadian rap song lyrics if you're a military veteran, or you could get the "Soviet dissident" treatment, and get thrown into a mental ward without warrant or due process.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/citizen-warrior/2012/aug/22/can-government-detain-you-over-facebook-posts/ [washingtontimes.com]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/29/former-marine-facebook-sue-fbi [guardian.co.uk]

Thankfully for Raub, someone caught his detainment on video and it went viral. What if nobody had taken video? Would he still be doing the "Thorazine shuffle" and drooling on himself in a tranq'ed-out stupor in some mental ward doing a real-world remake of Jack Nicholson's role in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"?

Scary times we live in.

Strat

My Name... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416929)

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/

How many accounts do you have on Facebook? (4, Funny)

macbeth66 (204889) | about 2 years ago | (#41416983)

And of those, how many bear no resemblance to you?

I have six accounts in all. Only two are even remotely real. One has all the usual crap, the second is scrubbed for use with potential employers. The other four were used for varying purposes where I did not want to contaminate the real thing. I am about to create a seventh, just to see how outrageous I can be.

God, I hate Facebook.

Re:How many accounts do you have on Facebook? (1)

Bongoots (795869) | about 2 years ago | (#41417091)

Dupe.

Re:How many accounts do you have on Facebook? (1)

Shavano (2541114) | about 2 years ago | (#41417173)

Everyone should create a dozen fake Facebook accounts. When the number of accounts exceeds 15 billion maybe advertisers will catch on that they're paying for fuckall. But a Fakebook account isn't really much good without a bot to keep it uploading crap and clicking on random links.

a bot to exercise Google links would be a nice addition.

Stop (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | about 2 years ago | (#41416989)

"Freedom to go under a pseudonym is, miraculously, one freedom to survive the security lock-down of the previous decade.

Just stop.

When you're talking about the the restrictions that a company places on its non-essential services, you don't get to talk about how complying with their terms of service has an effect on your "freedom" - you're free to use a pseudonym in all kinds of places. Quit complaining and stop using it.

what else did you expect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41416997)

I used to read many a stories in which a young girl will get free drug from a neighbor. After she is hooked, he will only give if she takes off the shirt and then if she takes off her all clothes and so on. By this time, the girl is so much hooked to it, she will do anything. Facebook is just like it. You get it for free. Next you are asked to remove your shirt, next all your clothes and next.... I am happy, I don't have facebook account.

Re:what else did you expect (2)

hawguy (1600213) | about 2 years ago | (#41417185)

I used to read many a stories in which a young girl will get free drug from a neighbor. After she is hooked, he will only give if she takes off the shirt and then if she takes off her all clothes and so on. By this time, the girl is so much hooked to it, she will do anything. Facebook is just like it. You get it for free. Next you are asked to remove your shirt, next all your clothes and next.... I am happy, I don't have facebook account.

Sorry, that doesn't work with Facebook. When I gave the cute girl across the hall my Wifi password so she could check her Facebook, she refused to take off her shirt (or any other item of clothing) for me.

No, really! (1)

Kylon99 (2430624) | about 2 years ago | (#41417007)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardik [wikipedia.org]

Hardik
Facebook: "Is this your friend's real name?" Yes.
Facebook: "Is this REALLY your friend's real name?" Yes.
Facebook: "C'mon... " Yes.
Facebook: "Did he have a tough time in school?" Yes.

I got a similar request. (4, Interesting)

mosb1000 (710161) | about 2 years ago | (#41417013)

I got a similar request asking if one of my female Facebook friends was really female. It's a strange question too, because she's not the kind of person you'd expect this question for. She's always posting pictures of cupcakes from Pinterest and pictures of her nephew and things like that. I wish I'd taken a screenshot of it, it was a lot like this question. I responded in the affirmative because I didn't see what kind of harm it could do. I've never heard of someone getting kicked out of Facebook for listing inaccurate personal information or anything like that.

I can understand why they'd want to get rid of "fake" users. I don't think their interest is in eliminating pseudonymity, but rather in eliminating spammers. I think they're thinking if they show you something like this for something they suspect is a fake account, it will you cause you to question whether or not you really know the person and to report them as a spammer if you don't know them. I'm thinking of those friend requests I get with pictures of attractive looking women I've never met. If you accidentally accepted one you may be unwittingly letting spammers abuse Facebook's system, so I can defiantly see why they'd want to get rid of those accounts.

Re:I got a similar request. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417471)

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

It is so they have an accurate picture of their user base, they want all real names and the real connections between people. It is as big brother as it can possibly be. Just because you use facebook and have to justify this with some nonsense about spammers doesn't mean the rest of us are fooled. You are a product. You are being sold. Remember: if you aren't paying for something, you are not the customer. You are the product. Same as slashdot actually.

Why would they care about spammers? They care about names and connections between names. What you like, what your circle of friends like, what their friends like, on and on. It is purely, solely, about marketing and polling you for information. There is no content on facebook. Just a web of who knows who and what they like. It is insane. People who use facebook are fucking retards, through and through. What do you get out of it? What, you can't email each other? You can't text or call each other? No, you sit there and look at stupid fucking crap from people you might know, and run around the internet clicking like on shit because you are a sheep trained to peck at a button for pointless rewards. What a great website.
 

Re:I got a similar request. (2)

mosb1000 (710161) | about 2 years ago | (#41417601)

Why would they care about spammers?

Because they devalue the Facebook brand. They call into question the authenticity of Facebook add clicks, and they pollute a users news feed with irrelevant information.

There is no content on facebook.

I don't know what you mean by that. There is plenty of content on Facebook. It has pictures of friends, notes, links to web articles, events, company information and lots of other content, much of it is original content as well.

What do you get out of it?

It lets my friends share things with me without actively working to share them with me specifically. All they do is post it to Facebook, and I can see what they posted. It's incredibly useful for staying in touch with friends who live in other parts of the country or world, but it's also useful for sending invitations to events and sharing photos with my friends who are nearby.

No, you sit there and look at stupid fucking crap from people you might know, and run around the internet clicking like on shit because you are a sheep trained to peck at a button for pointless rewards.

It's largely up to the individual user how they use the site. I would suggest that simply because you see no value in it doesn't mean that it is useless for everyone.

Obligatory Facebook-CIA-Onion (3)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | about 2 years ago | (#41417019)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0 [youtube.com]
I think the epiphany comes when one watches it and doesn't laugh.

Re:Obligatory Facebook-CIA-Onion (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | about 2 years ago | (#41417267)

Oh! Eff me!

Thank you so much for that. Sorry, I tried not to laugh, but I couldn't stop.

"400 billion tweets and not one useful bit of data was ever transmitted."

Spot on.

And Zuckerberg was the CIA Director of the Facebook project. Enough to make you crap state secrets.

Although maybe...

Anybody else remember the SNL commercial spoof of the Trac II. They showed a razor with three blades. I can't stop snickering when I pass the five blade shaving systems in the store. I was truly frightened when I saw that one of them took batteries.

Misleading blurb (5, Funny)

barakn (641218) | about 2 years ago | (#41417039)

Facebook is not "clamping down on pseudonyms" and /. should be ashamed for posting a story that suggests it is. The questions Facebook sends to users are used for statistical purposes and are not used to punish those using pseudonyms. Pure FUD.

Re:Misleading blurb (1)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#41417151)

I'm sure, quite sure, that the behemoth that is Facebook, which depends on advertising dollars for its very life, won't use the info gathered for "statistical purposes" to punish.

/sarcasm

Re:Misleading blurb (0)

macbeth66 (204889) | about 2 years ago | (#41417291)

I wish I had gotten some moderator points. Hell, I wish I had them on my other fake slashdot accounts. I'd mod you up 'Funny'. Seriously dude, you had me until 'FUD'.

Re:Misleading blurb (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417649)

The questions Facebook sends to users are used for statistical purposes

You say that like that would be something better.

And lastly.. (1)

tetrahedrassface (675645) | about 2 years ago | (#41417069)

I don't give a fuck who pinned what to pinterest or what game someone played. In fact Facebook is useless except for spreading rumors and self promotion. The nosey types love it. It still smells bad though. Real bad.

We should all click on no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417073)

If everybody clicks on "no" on that dialog, everyone's account will be suspended and facebook will cease to exist. That will solve the problem.

For a 1000 bucks i will (0)

Stan92057 (737634) | about 2 years ago | (#41417093)

For a 1000 bucks i will. No way i do that crap for free. Oh wait im not a Facebook member lol

My kids use fake names on Facebook (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417203)

To give some context, to this, my kids are all adults now. Even the youngest is turning 19 in just a couple of months.

But some of my kids use fake names on theirr Facebook accounts. As far as I can tell, they do it mostly because they like making up silly nicknames for themselves, not because they are trying to deceive people into thinking they are somebody they are not.

Also, I have one friend that also uses a fake name on Facebook because the system wouldn't let him use his actual name (in particular, he has no last name, so he put on his facebook profile his profession as his last name).

Will I "snitch" on these people? Nope.... that's why this is even posted AC. But seriously.... what possible incentive would I have to complain to facebook about the usernames that people I actually know and care about are using names that aren't really theirs?

Re:My kids use fake names on Facebook (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | about 2 years ago | (#41417317)

Why post AC? Afraid the FB Boogeyman will come and get you?

Damn, this story has been more fun than all of the Apple stories combined.

Time to dump Facebook (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417293)

Time to dump Facebook.

Being forced to post my real name to the world is one of the most annoying things about Facebook.

I only want to share my posts and pictures with my friends. I don't care to have the entire world to know that I have a Facebook account. This should be my choice!

Those that I want to let in, are already on my Facebook friends list. For the rest of the world, I'd rather remain private.

Whatever goes on the Internet, stays on the Internet. Facebook should wake up and realize that a lot of people don't care to publicize their life on the forever searchable Internet.

Can we have a snitch site for (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417319)

snitching on "friends" who use Facebook? I'm not sure I want to talk to someone if what I tell them can end up on Facebook. I certainly wouldn't want them to take my picture, since they might upload it there. But I don't have a way to know who actually uses Facebook since I have DNS blackholed all of its domains from my network. So we need a snitch site.

Nein! You must show us your papers... (2)

mschaffer (97223) | about 2 years ago | (#41417379)

Nein! You must show us your papers...
Nobody said Facebook was a democracy.

Facebook is cunt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417451)

If you're on facebook, you're on the road to becoming a cunt. Don't be a cunt.

Facebook click fraud anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417543)

Anyone that is still using this fraudulent company deserves whatever they get. Do you really think that facebook hasn't already picked up on the fact(and is utilizing it) that "they" themselves "can" create fake users(with impunity) to use for the benefit or to the detriment of their real customers as they see fit.

LET THE STOCK VALUE COLLAPSE.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417585)

I really hope Facebook stock value crashes real bad after this “nth” stupid thing they do to DISCOURAGE THEIR OWN USERS. After all if they cannot find a way to make this service financially sound without “very” targeted advertising – the reason of the “real names” thing – then there IS NOT business reason for financially sound service, so it will gradually alienate users and diewhy not just accept the fact people MAY BE WILLING TO PAY for premium services to do their own damn thing ?

My Facebook page (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417719)

Anonymous [facebook.com]

There are multiple senses of "real name". (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41417729)

As it happens, there are multiple senses of "my real name".

In a court, I'm David Collier-Brown

At a kid's baseball game, I'm "Alan's uncle"

In a coffee shop I'm "Dave", scribbled on the cup

At work I'm "DCB", as there is another Dave

To my father I was "David Richard James Allegheny Diogenes Lamont-Brown" (dad was just a teentsy bit eccentric about middle names), and

As an author, I'm another person entirely.

As I'm not in a court when I'm on the 'net, I expect to use one of the less formal versions of me, usually davecb@some-email-or-other

And yes, I do have an expectation that the courts will protect my ability to be one of the less formal, less private versions of myself. Including from U.S. companies doing business in Canada.

–dave c-b

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