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The Swiss Pirate Party Has Its First Mayor

timothy posted about a year ago | from the mayor-mc-swiss-cheese dept.

Piracy 110

bs0d3 writes "Alex Arnold from the Pirate Party Switzerland has been elected mayor of Eichberg. This is the first mayoral win for the pirates in Switzerland, and hopefully just the begining of things to come. Thomas Bruderer, president of the Pirate Party Switzerland, is delighted: 'This result is for our young party is an important milestone. To win a majority vote shows that our members are not just a marginal phenomenon; but are in the midst of society.'"

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HOSTS file could have prevented this (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429005)

$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski

We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.

Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?

Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.

If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.

I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.

Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.

Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.

I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.

If Natalie Portman is not measurable, She is Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!

You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusive emails to the operator of OSY, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke threatening to sue him for libel, claiming that the APK on OSY was fake.

My reputation as a professional in this field clearly shows in multiple publications in this field in written print, & also online in various GOOD capacities since 1996 to present day. This has happened since I was first published in Playgirl Magazine in 1996 & others to present day, with helpful tools online in programs, & professionally sold warez that were finalists @ Westminster Dog Show 2000-2002.

Did you see the movie "Pokemon"? Actually the induced night "dream world" is synonymous with the academic religious induced "HOSTS file" enslavement of DNS. Domains have no inherent value, as it was invented as a counterfeit and fictitious value to represent natural values in name resolution. Unfortunately, human values have declined to fictitious word values. Unknowingly, you are living in a "World Wide Web", as in a fictitious life in a counterfeit Internet - which you could consider APK induced "HOSTS file". Can you distinguish the academic induced root server from the natural OpenDNS? Beware of the change when your brain is free from HOSTS file enslavement - for you could find that the natural Slashdot has been destroyed!!

FROM -> Man - how many times have I dusted you in tech debates that you have decided to troll me by ac posts for MONTHS now, OR IMPERSONATING ME AS YOU DID HERE and you were caught in it by myself & others here, only to fail each time as you have here?)...

So long nummynuts, sorry to have to kick your nuts up into your head verbally speaking.

cower in my shadow some more, feeb. you're completely pathetic.

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Ac trolls' "BIG FAIL" (quoted): Eat your words

alexander peter kowalski
903 east division st.
syracuse, ny 13208

dob: 01/31/1965

mother:
jan kowalski
dob: 12/03/1933

Re:HOSTS file could have prevented this (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429125)

What I'm about to say I say as a concerned human being:
Seek help.

Or in other words || my big question (1)

RobertLTux (260313) | about a year ago | (#41429669)

Also can be said PUT THE BONG DOWN AND WALK AWAY.

So i guess one of the first orders of business is to ensure the Rum Supply for the city.

Re:HOSTS file could have prevented this (1)

Teun (17872) | about a year ago | (#41429251)

ROFL! :)

(Now the sick bastard will follow me again)

Re:HOSTS file could have prevented this (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41432027)

I miss Dr Bob.

Re:HOSTS file could have prevented this (1)

Endovior (2450520) | about 2 years ago | (#41432951)

Not sure if actually crazy, or just pretending to be crazy. Awesome troll either way.

Re:HOSTS file could have prevented this (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#41434881)

HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking

Oh hey, it's Gene Ray, the Time Cube guy.

Things to come... (2)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429033)

"This is the first mayoral win for the pirates in Switzerland, and hopefully just the begining of things to come."

Could Slashdot at least *pretend* to be non-bias when reporting this kind of stuff?

Re:Things to come... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429059)

I fail to see how someone promoting a new player in politics is a bad thing...

Re:Things to come... (3, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | about a year ago | (#41429559)

It's not. Well it is to people who hate ordered society, or dislike people being involved. A lot of people simply hate politics because they don't understand how it works, personally I blame that on the fact that they don't actually teach people about it. Rather, they simply "tell people" what they think they should know.

Re:Things to come... (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about a year ago | (#41429795)

The root problem with politics is that government, at its very core, is based on actions, based on aggression that when committed by anyone else other than "the government" would be rightfully condemned by everyone. If someone outside of government would implement taxation people would rightfully view it as theft. If someone outside of government introduced conscription people would rightfully view it as slavery. Those who have understood this naturally view politics as repulsive, just as we view working for the mafia as repulsive.

Re:Things to come... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430287)

Logic fail: In writing what you wrote, you were engaging in political discourse. Are you saying that the act of decrying the repulsive nature of government is, in itself, repulsive? Quite the infinite loop you have got yourself into, no?

Also, quit this childish crap. We can organise ourselves into a society based on the idea that (to oversimplify considerably) we are all happy with majority rule, even though that may mean being adult enough to accept decisions that we disagree with. It would be absolutely impossible to have any sort of functioning society at all if we all accepted your extremist crap.

Just fucking quit it.

Re:Things to come... (1)

ppanon (16583) | about a year ago | (#41431491)

If someone outside of government would implement taxation people would rightfully view it as theft.

Churches and tithing?

Re:Things to come... (2)

Mr.Z of the LotFC (880939) | about 2 years ago | (#41432821)

On the one hand, churches do not force their members to tithe at gunpoint (at least, none in America of which I know). On the other hand, many seem to be doing just fine with their funding being completely from voluntary sources, even when some people make use of their resources without paying tithes. Makes you wonder whether the IRS is needed at all.

Re:Things to come... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41436123)

On the one hand, churches do not force their members to tithe at gunpoint

Indeed they don't, tithing is entirely voluntary. As to the IRS, most people love their God but don't feel too kindly toward the government. It would take a massive ad campaign to get people to voluntarily fund government. And church only asks for ten percent, the feds get way more than that and my state, Illinois, gets at least that much (6% income tax, 7% sales tax plus road taxes on gasoline, beer taxes, cigarettes taxes, etc).

Re:Things to come... (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41436955)

On the one hand, churches do not force their members to tithe at gunpoint (at least, none in America of which I know). On the other hand, many seem to be doing just fine with their funding being completely from voluntary sources, even when some people make use of their resources without paying tithes. Makes you wonder whether the IRS is needed at all.

If you only had church tithes instead of government taxes (assuming such a hellish conception could even remotely be workable in a population that was not composed entirely of braindead slaves), then do you really think they would be voluntary? At the very least there would have to be very strong social pressure to contribute, and presumably if you didn't you would be ostracized.

Re:Things to come... (1)

Mr.Z of the LotFC (880939) | about 2 years ago | (#41437045)

I was not suggesting paying the church for everything. I was rather suggesting having contributions to the government be voluntary also. Of course, as has been pointed out, people tend to like their church but not their government, but one might also hope it would lead to the government having to be nice/unobtrusive/manifestly helpful enough to convince people to pay them. It says something that governments feel the need to threaten force to get enough funding.

Re:Things to come... (2)

aurispector (530273) | about 2 years ago | (#41432481)

Feel free to start your own country where there is no taxation. And good luck with that.

Here in the real world, we recognize that there are essential services that must be paid for, that people are not always rational and ethical and that we must agree on a system to deal with these sad facts.

The pirate party getting a mayor elected might be interesting, but it's not like they can simply impose their entire agenda.

Additionally, if you admit that intellectual property issues are real owing to the fact that real people must do real work producing them, the entire "pirate" thing falls apart. Sure, it's good to have an opposing viewpoint to the draconian IP laws being pushed by big media, but don't expect IP ownership issues to go away. If they did, nobody could ever make a living creating, well, anything.

Re:Things to come... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41433633)

It's not just about piracy : it's also about stopping censorship, and mainly about providing saner IP laws ( which would also benefit creators, who have to deal with it too ) .

It's a debate that needs to be happen, and that's what political parties are good at. The more clashes, the more honesty, and as a result, a better system.

Re:Things to come... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41436185)

Additionally, if you admit that intellectual property issues are real owing to the fact that real people must do real work producing them, the entire "pirate" thing falls apart. Sure, it's good to have an opposing viewpoint to the draconian IP laws being pushed by big media, but don't expect IP ownership issues to go away.

"My" intellectual property does NOT belong to me; I merely have a "limited" time monopoly on its use. I no more own The Paxil Diaries than I own the house I'm renting.

Studies show that pirates spend more on media than non-pirates. If your "piracy is killing authors" were true, the public libraries would have killed authorship a long time ago, but on the contrary, I would not have those dozen Asimov titles on my shelf if I hadn't read hundreds of other Asimov books I'd checked out from the library -- and the internet is the 21st century library.

Nobody's going to buy your record if they've never heard your songs. Only an idiot buys a pig in a poke.

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY! Today, that's the internet.

Re:Things to come... (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#41434243)

Beh. Government is the objective standard of society working as the whole. When one person can't do it, it's the group doing it for everyone else with the express consent of what they're agreeing to(by election/vote/consent/etc). A person can give up on government if they want, there's nothing stopping any person in a western country from going off the grid and going to live off in a hermitage, or the wilds or anything else. This is the whole basis of the social contract [wikipedia.org] , and there's a far better works written on that then what I could even cram into /. text box.

Re:Things to come... (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41436871)

The root problem with politics is that government, at its very core, is based on actions, based on aggression that when committed by anyone else other than "the government" would be rightfully condemned by everyone. If someone outside of government would implement taxation people would rightfully view it as theft. If someone outside of government introduced conscription people would rightfully view it as slavery. Those who have understood this naturally view politics as repulsive, just as we view working for the mafia as repulsive.

I think this is the point at which someone says "fuck off and live in Somalia then" isn't it?

Re:Things to come... (1)

brit74 (831798) | about a year ago | (#41429895)

Just because you're a new player doesn't mean I'm going to give you any credit for anything. It all depends on what you're promoting. Remember: All bad political movements started out as "new players" at one time or another.

Re:Things to come... (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41435757)

I fail to see how someone promoting a new player in politics is a bad thing...

How about if they were promoting a new neo-Nazi party?

You believe that the Pirate party are a good thing and so are using false logic.

Re:Things to come... (1)

ILongForDarkness (1134931) | about 2 years ago | (#41438475)

How about them being yet another one issue party? Other than free schooling and healthcare (at least the Swedish one) their only issue is: free media, no copyright, no patents. How about national defense, financial regulations, taxation, public services etc? Just like the cannabis party or the green party who essentially believe all problems can be solved by a bong or an organic compost heap respectively.;

Re:Things to come... (1)

ILongForDarkness (1134931) | about 2 years ago | (#41438507)

Crap I must code too much I terminated my statement with a semi-colon :)

Re:Things to come... (1)

91degrees (207121) | about a year ago | (#41429901)

I don't think Slashdot has ever really intended to be non biased.

Re:Things to come... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430247)

Could Slashdot at least *pretend* to be non-bias when reporting this kind of stuff.

I'm sure it could but I don't see why that would be an improvement.

Re:Things to come... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430699)

No. The claim to journalistic objectivity was never something I bought. More and more people are dispensing with it, and IMHO that's a good thing. If you go back in time, there were newspapers like, "The Press Democrat". No bones about it. If you want honesty in reporting, it's probably not a bad idea to start off being honest about your bias. I don't believe there's any such thing as a non-biased journalist. If you claim objectivity, you start off on the wrong foot--that of deceiving yourself and others. I'd rather get news from "The Press Pirate" than from a source that claims to be "fair and balanced" when we all know it isn't.

Arrr! (4, Funny)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#41429063)

For some reason, the mayor insists on the town hall employees calling him "cap'n".

Re:Arrr! (2)

slartibartfastatp (613727) | about a year ago | (#41429907)

How pirates ended up in a country with no sea? How did they commute?

Re:Arrr! (4, Funny)

Kjella (173770) | about a year ago | (#41430421)

How pirates ended up in a country with no sea? How did they commute?

They airlift them in with a swarm of talking parrots, you can often see the foreman sitting on the captain's shoulder negotiating for more crackers or threatening to blabber about the treasure. The colors are actually for navigation, red parrots on the left, green parrots on the right and white parrots on the tail. One crazy captain called the Flying Dutchman even airlifted his whole ship this way, but he got lost in the Swiss alps somewhere and the parrots froze to death in the winter. Who knows, maybe the descendants of the crew still live up there continuing their pirating ways...

Rhein River and Lake Constance / Bodensee! (1)

billstewart (78916) | about a year ago | (#41431749)

Yarrr! Obviously a town named Eichberg is in the mountains, but they've got a creek, and they're about 5km from the Rhein River, where there's all sorts of opportunity for river piracy, Lorelei sirens, and the border with Austria. And about 30km away is Lake Constance (or Bodensee, in German), which is certainly big enough for piracy.

FPV FTW :) (3, Interesting)

tibit (1762298) | about a year ago | (#41429089)

Switzerland: the country where doing this [youtube.com] is legal, now gets a pirate party major. When kids go to college, I'm moving there ;)

Re:FPV FTW :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429141)

Is flying an RC aircraft over the mountains illegal somewhere?

Re:FPV FTW :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429205)

I was a bit confused as well about that, but it looks like it's an RC aircraft with mounted cameras with a range of 10km from the person controlling it. I don't know where, but some strict countries maybe would classify that as spying?

Re:FPV FTW :) (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#41429529)

That would be "idiotic countries", right? People do this here in Europe all the time. Why not? It's quite a logical extension of the idea of flying an RC model in the first place (i.e., better orientation and experience when flying it).

Re:FPV FTW :) (3, Interesting)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about a year ago | (#41429991)

It is not allowed in quite a few non-idiotic countries as well. Not because of fears of spies or terrorists, but for safety reasons. Here in the Netherlands, you can mount all the cameras you want to your RC plane, but you have to maintain line-of-sight when flying it. Mostly because in msot places here you can't fly 1km without ending up over residential areas or in controlled airspace.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year ago | (#41430791)

Well, when you're hurling a few kilograms of mass through the air even at a modest speed, you had better be sure it won't fall on someone's head. That's completely understandable. If I were controlling an RC model, I'd treat it like an airshow. One area would be the one over which the model would fly, another area would be the one with houses and people, and never the twain would meet. Well, the Netherlands. Quite a lot of people there, and quite a lot of them below the sea level to boot. Me, I have a lot of large fields and forests around me.

Re:FPV FTW :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429569)

This is not a reply to the parent, just me adding information to the parents post, and telling anyone they may actually have a problem with this activity my 2 cents.

If you look at the channel, they have plenty of videos of them doing this in here in America as well.

As for spying, not my problem. My country does shitloads of spying on its own people and the entire planet, I could careless about some guy flying a small plane anywhere.

If I owned a ranch out in the middle of no where and was sunbathing nude for some odd reason, and then I saw one of these above head, I would probably just put clothes back on. If it stayed around, and was clearly in my space above my property, I would shoot it down.

Because who owns a ranch and doesn't own a gun?

And if I couldn't shoot it down, I would then call the authorities and claim harassment, not spying. And then go back to my daily life without being stressed at all throughout the whole process.

Stuff like this is stuff only pussys complain about. Go back to nodding to your wife and letting her make the decisions.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

tibit (1762298) | about 2 years ago | (#41432319)

It's not legal in many places even in Europe. You can't legally fly that way in Czech Republic IIRC.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

Fast Thick Pants (1081517) | about a year ago | (#41429227)

I wouldn't try it around Cheyenne Mountain [wikipedia.org] ...

Re:FPV FTW :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430155)

Or maybe SHOULD do it and watch lasers shoot it down.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41436129)

If I was rich I'd park in a supercar somewhere near Area 51 and launch an FPV RC at it and fly around the buildings until it gets shot down. If the spooks show up then I'd tell the driver to gun it :D

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41436113)

RC aircraft are illegal to fly outside of certain designated airspaces in most places. Flying RCs out of visual range, which is basically part of FPV flying, is categorically illegal almost everywhere. That what a lot of the new laws about UAVs are addressing.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 2 years ago | (#41436197)

Before anyone yells about it I should mention that in many countries that "designated airspace" includes all airspace below a low ceiling.

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41437207)

Switzerland: the country where doing this [youtube.com] is legal, now gets a pirate party major. When kids go to college, I'm moving there ;)

Why are you so impressed with a radio controlled plane taking video footage? Wouldn't that be legal in most places in the world, except near military installations? What am I missing?

Re:FPV FTW :) (1)

tibit (1762298) | about 2 years ago | (#41440279)

You're missing that it's not legal in most places in the world, unfortunately.

Re:FPV FTW :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41437453)

Yes, you should definitely move to Switzerland where this is also legal:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8385069.stm

Enjoy your kiddos growing up in the most xenophobic society I have encountered thus far :-) (also I hope your family is white, Christian, and has a non-Slavic name)

remind me never to buy any music from the swiss... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429107)

or respect any other intellectual property from Switzerland.

Re:remind me never to buy any music from the swiss (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429241)

> remind me never to buy any music from the swiss... or respect any other intellectual property from Switzerland.

All of a sudden, all Swiss products became a lot more interesting to me.

Re:remind me never to buy any music from the swiss (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41437311)

> remind me never to buy any music from the swiss... or respect any other intellectual property from Switzerland.

All of a sudden, all Swiss products became a lot more interesting to me.

Try pirating a Rolex watch and see how amusing they find it.

Where? (-1, Troll)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | about a year ago | (#41429117)

Eichberg? Never heard of it. You know, I really take issue with false pronouncements like "To win a majority vote shows that our members are not just a marginal phenomenon; but are in the midst of society." As much as I support the concept behind the Pirate Party, grandiose statements like this make me cringe. They sound far too similar to "the vanguard of the revolution will inevitably usher in the dictatorship of the proletariat" rhetoric which was equally as false.

Just for fun, I looked up Eichberg on the internet, expecting to find a city of 100,000 - 500,000. What did I get? "Eichberg has an area, as of 2006, of 5.5 km2 (2.1 sq mi). Eichberg has a population (as of 31 December 2011) of 1,481." You know what we call these in America? Hick towns. Flyover territory. Rednecksville. A place you sincerely hope your car doesn't break down because then the banjos start playing and it never ends well. Just like a hick town, the population is lily-white with no diversity. Unfortunately, most of the population are religious, and we all know what that does for the credibility of the local voters. There are only 82 rational atheists in the whole little village whose opinions can be trusted.

So, I'm having a hard time understanding the "in the midst of society" part. It sounds to me like this is an inconsequential rural area, whose vote means nothing. 1,481? I'm pretty sure the population of NPCs in Ultima V is higher than this. Pirate Party, I salute your win, however inconsequential, but stop pretending that this means anything. Win the votes of real people who don't believe in the Invisible Sky Wizard and maybe it will mean something.

Re:Where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429195)

In Switzerland, this is an average town, not "an inconsequential rural area" or "rednecksville". But I'm sure your fellow countrymen are grateful for your propagation of the stereotype of the wilfully ignorant American.

Re:Where? (1)

Spliffster (755587) | about 2 years ago | (#41434703)

I am swiss, and no: ~1400 is a village not a town here.

Re:Where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429239)

We get it, everything is bigger and better in the US, the only country that matters. Snore.

As for how much 1481 votes (probably less discounting children), please get a clue about direct democracy. Yeah, that's right motherfucker. None of that two-party representative bullshit that some baby countries have settled for.

Re:Where? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429291)

"Eichberg has a population (as of 31 December 2011) of 1,481." You know what we call these in America? Hick towns. Flyover territory. Rednecksville"

Errm.. we're talking about Switzerland here. The whole country is - literally - "Flyover territory". The place is tiny. Even Zuerich is only something like 3-400000 populationwise..

Re:Where? (1)

JakeBurn (2731457) | about a year ago | (#41429435)

America doesn't call these hick towns. Ignorant,self-righteous elitists do. Its always nice when people save us the investigative troubles of finding out how deep their stupidity and hate run and just come right out and tell us.

Re:Where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429613)

The flaw in your logic is that the USA has 312M inhabitants, while Switzerland has a mere 8M divided over 2740 communes. The majority of which, have fewer than 1000 inhabitants. Only 30 have a population of over 20k inhabitants. This may not be a huge milestone, but an important one nonetheless.

overheard: Better "Piggy" than "Fatty" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429139)

as the town's street signs were quickly claimed by collectors.

Time for a navy (4, Funny)

Teun (17872) | about a year ago | (#41429171)

Poor Swiss, now they have pirates but no navy...

Re:Time for a navy (4, Interesting)

TheP4st (1164315) | about a year ago | (#41429269)

They actually do have a navy which patrols 4-5 of their lakes.

Re:Time for a navy (1)

dinfinity (2300094) | about a year ago | (#41429289)

I don't think the Sea Scouts count..

Re:Time for a navy (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41429801)

Just having armed watercraft [www.mcso.us] doesn't make you a Navy. You need a separate military command structure. The Swiss have that for their Air Force and Army, but not for their patrol boats, which are a small unit within the Army.

One can only hope these pirates don't get too uppity!

Re:Time for a navy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429541)

Well well America has the world biggest navy, with no admiral in control at the helm, it's people are dismayed disenchanted disbelieve their dishonest two party politicians

Re:Time for a navy (1)

ark1 (873448) | about a year ago | (#41430795)

Outsourcing is popular these days.

Re:Time for a navy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41431145)

And the US has a Secretary of Treasure............

The copilot of a Titanic Airlines flight: (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429347)

Eichberg! Dead ahead!

iCanfixit (0)

seb100c (2736723) | about a year ago | (#41429377)

I bet that Eichberg is part of the iOS6 map fail of iOS6. Citizens wanted a pirate to fix it before Apple take care about it?

A bit premature. (4, Interesting)

DerekLyons (302214) | about a year ago | (#41429409)

"To win a majority vote shows that our members are not just a marginal phenomenon; but are in the midst of society.'"

Without knowing the politics of the town, that's a bit of a premature boast. Dark horse and odd ball candidates routinely win against major candidates in local elections when the major candidates have pissed off the electorate or run a seriously lackluster campaigns. The real test of entering the mainstream is either the candidate or party getting re-elected or gaining additional offices or municipalities.

After all, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Another key question, what is the demographics of the town? If they skew young and lower income (not poor, but cube monkeys) or have a major geek influence (like say, Silicon Valley), that's another potential indicator that the boast is hollow and premature.

Re:A bit premature. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41429701)

you are right. It's a tiny village.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichberg,_Switzerland [wikipedia.org]

he was elected because he was backed up by different parties, having grown up in that village and working for the administration his whole career.

Re:A bit premature. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430079)

you are right. It's a tiny village.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichberg,_Switzerland [wikipedia.org]

1,481 inhabitants. That's a pretty major city, by Swiss standards.

Re:A bit premature. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430297)

It aint. Not even by swiss standards.

Re:A bit premature. (1)

Kirth (183) | about 2 years ago | (#41435041)

Nope. It's a village. I've never heard of it before, and I'm member of the Swiss Pirate Party (different municipality tough). There are indeed towns this size in Switzerland, since "town" being defined as either a) has more than 10'000 inhabitants or b) has an inherited medieval town privilege.

So this is a village: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langnau_im_Emmental [wikipedia.org] -- 9'000 inhabitants
But this is a town: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werdenberg_(Ort) [wikipedia.org] -- about 60 inhabitants

Re:A bit premature. (1)

ryzvonusef (1151717) | about a year ago | (#41430035)

After all, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

They are Swiss, I am sure their watches are both ever running and ever correct :p

Re:A bit premature. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430639)

Back in 2002 the mayoral election for Hartlepool ( population 92000) was won by the local football club's mascot, H'angus the monkey. H'angus, who was previously best known for bein ejected from rival team Scunthorpe United's ground for simulating sex with a female steward, stood on a platform of ' a banana for every child' and narrowly beat the Labour Party candidate into second place.

There were some who believed that electing an man in a monkey suit to a £50000 a year public office position was asking for trouble. These people were unfortunately disappointed in 2005 when H'angus was re- elected with an increased majority. He duely won a third term in 2009 and is still the borougj's mayor.

Definition of pirate ... (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a year ago | (#41429719)

You do realize that their definition of pirate is absolutely nothing like your version of it right? Theres doesn't actually involve blatant theft and ignoring the law. I know a bunch of replies will happen telling me how wrong I am, but before you write that reply, find a quote from them to back up your claim.

Oh Great (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41429725)

What's the big significance here? If you get all your friends to vote in a local election that most people ignore, then yeah, you can get elected. Doesn't establish your political clout.

The citizens of Eichberg now have a mayor whose agenda has nothing to do roads, sewers, public safety, or any of the other unsexy issues that municipal officials deal with. He does care about copyright reform — an issue in which a mayor has no say at all.

Now the local Pirate Party people will pat each other on the back for this "win" and go back to ignoring local politics. Hey, real impressive.

Re:Oh Great (2)

cpghost (719344) | about a year ago | (#41429897)

Well, I could imagine that he'll support efforts to establish unrestricted municipal WLAN access points. But seriously, how about typical "piratic" topics like pushing for transparency in governance at the municipal level?

Re:Oh Great (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41430305)

Transparency is good. But that's a standard plank on everybody's platform these days.

Re:Oh Great (2)

Opportunist (166417) | about a year ago | (#41429957)

Well, let's wait and watch? Considering how most other politicians seem to be primarily concerned with lining their own pockets at the expense of the country, a politician that gets actually nothing accomplished would be an improvement...

Re:Oh Great (2)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41430419)

So, if the city stops repairing potholes, that's actually an improvement?

The lame thing about libertarians and other government haters is that they take for granted all the things government actually does that needs doing. The city infrastructure seems to be OK, so what's the big deal about actually maintaining it?

Sure, government is corrupt. Most big institutions are corrupt. Not sure of a good way to fix it, but electing a single-issue bozo who no actual interest in running his city is not high on my list.

Re:Oh Great (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430759)

He did his apprenticeship at the local government and the former major. Afterwards he went studding and gathered some years of experience as an informatics project manager. I am pretty sure he is capable of doing this job right.

btw: Also two major parties and the finding committee recommended him.

Re:Oh Great (1)

joaosantos (1519241) | about a year ago | (#41430017)

You know that are several green party mayors across Europe? Just because the national policy of a Party if focused in a theme it doesn't mean that the party hasn't other ideas in other areas and that party members don't have ideas to implement at local level.

Re:Oh Great (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41430379)

Let me dig into my memory bank. Oh yeah, the green party is about ecology and sustainability, right? These are things that municipal officials deal with every day. I live in a city [portlandoregon.gov] that isn't actually run by the Green Party, but might as well be, given all the effort the city puts into mass transit, bike-friendly streets, mandatory composting and recycling, and other green initiatives.

Re:Oh Great (1)

Hope Thelps (322083) | about a year ago | (#41430337)

The citizens of Eichberg now have a mayor whose agenda has nothing to do roads, sewers, public safety, or any of the other unsexy issues that municipal officials deal with. He does care about copyright reform — an issue in which a mayor has no say at all.

Genuine question because I don't know anything about his politics - is what you've said here based on first hand knowledge of the mayor's opinions and policies, on local news reports, on something you read on some blog on the internet, or is it something you just made up based on your imagination of how a pirate party mayor should be?

Re:Oh Great (1)

fm6 (162816) | about a year ago | (#41430449)

He's a member of a party that exists solely because people are pissed off about antiquated copyright laws (as am I). Maybe the dude has more going than his interest in this one issue, but the fact that he's affiliated with a single-issue party doesn't encourage me to think so.

Re:Oh Great (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41440197)

He's a member of a party that exists solely because people are pissed off about antiquated copyright laws (as am I).

I'm pissed off because they got rid of the antiquated copyright laws that said a work must be in a fixed AND TANGIBLE medium and only lasted 30 years. If we rolled copyright back to what it was in 1900, file sharing would be legal and Led Zeppelin songs would now be in the public domain.

The DMCA and Bono act are less than 20 years old. It's not the antiquated parts that need to go, it's the new parts.

Re:Oh Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430485)

He got 60% of all votes and 65% of the eligible voters took part.

Re:Oh Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41431927)

The citizens of Eichberg now have a mayor whose agenda has nothing to do roads, sewers, public safety, or any of the other unsexy issues that municipal officials deal with. He does care about copyright reform — an issue in which a mayor has no say at all.

Sounds like a win for the people then. Without having skewed ideals for how things should be run he will probably choose a more pragmatic approach for all relevant issues.
The reason people elected him is probably because the previous mayor was too busy circle-jerking his cronies and making choices that made him look like he was following the party line instead of what would be best for the people. Having someone with no agenda in charge is a pretty big step up from what is common in politics.

Re:Oh Great (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 2 years ago | (#41433421)

"The citizens of Eichberg now have a mayor whose agenda has nothing to do roads, sewers, public safety, or any of the other unsexy issues that municipal officials deal with. He does care about copyright reform â" an issue in which a mayor has no say at all."

This is Switzerland, not some Third World country where a road is more pothole than concrete. So maybe the local voters don't care that much about roads and sewers because they're in a good enough condition?

Remember that a government isn't all elected "politicians". In most well-run democratic countries, the government consists mostly of bureaucrats that can run the state or local unit even if there's a political deadlock where there's no legally elected leader but only a caretaker who may or may not have been elected. So basically you'll have a local "Pirate" politician setting "policies" for local bureacrats to put into practice.

Re:Oh Great (1)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41433629)

Hey, I don't live in a third world country either. My mayor [twitter.com] spends a lot of time talking roads and sewers.

If the public bureaucrats have everything in hand (ha!), why even bother holding an election?

Wait for it! Wait for it! (2)

Greyfox (87712) | about a year ago | (#41430107)

Running a town? That sounds... Harrrrrrd!

Hee hee hee... Oh damn... I kill me...

So late? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#41430973)

I would expect member of this party to be much more savvy Foursquare users...

Old news. (1)

TarPitt (217247) | about a year ago | (#41431405)

"Talk Like a Pirate Day" was last week.

sectoral party (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | about 2 years ago | (#41432615)

The pirate parties from various countries tend to be sectoral parties: they propose a lot of interesting stuff on some subject, but lack a global platform covering everything. Social or economic subjects may not be clearly included in their platform, for instance. It will be interesting how this pirate major will cope with matters that do not make consensus among pirates

Note that the term sectoral is not negative in my point of view. The goal of a sectoral party is to influence other parties so that their ideas get adopted in global platforms. Good example are greed parties: some of them could not decide for some time if they were left wing or right wing, but that did not prevent their green ideas spread far beyond their own ranks

Ads all over the city for 777 Poker, etc...? (1)

Vegan Cyclist (1650427) | about 2 years ago | (#41433255)

If it's becoming anything like TPB website, there'll be ads everywhere.. What's happened to the site? Ever other click now brings up a full-screen ad. =(

Mayoral regalia (1)

gargleblast (683147) | about 2 years ago | (#41433303)

Apparently they are still working on the new Mayoral regalia. Here is a sneak preview [youtube.com]

Anybody know the rates for (1)

Compaqt (1758360) | about 2 years ago | (#41435319)

webhosting in Eichberg?

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