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Samsung Smartphones Vulnerable To Remote Wipe Hack

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the big-oops-there dept.

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DavidGilbert99 writes "Security researchers have discovered a single line of code embedded in websites which could wipe all data from your Samsung Galaxy S3 and other smartphones. Samsung smartphones including the Galaxy S3, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy Beam and Galaxy S Advance all appear to be affected by the bug which triggers a factory reset on your phone if your web browser is pointed to a particular website. Smartphones can also be directed to the code through NFC or using a QR code. Once the process has been initiated, users are have no way of stopping it. The hack was unveiled at the Ekoparty 2012 security conference in Argentina by Ravi Borgaonkar, a security researcher at the Security in Communications department at Technical University Berlin. ... Only Samsung smartphones running the company's proprietary TouchWiz user interface appear to be affected. According to telecoms engineer Pau Oliva, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus is not affected, as it runs on stock Android and doesn't use the TouchWiz skin on top." Hit the link above for a video demonstration.

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Manufacturer's Android (2, Interesting)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41451105)

People still use the manufacturer's version of Android ? (Any manufacturer, not only Samsung).

It is bloated, slow, full of useless crap.

The first thing I do on any new android phone that lands in my hands is to replace the firmware with something less full of )(@#*)(#$.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (-1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#41451133)

I have a Nexus, Googles version of android is quite nice.

Why replace that?

Re:Manufacturer's Android (-1, Troll)

FBInvestor (2738801) | about 2 years ago | (#41451323)

Because "quite nice" is not exactly what you want your smart phone to be. Try "amazing" like iPhone.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451477)

Because "quite nice" is not exactly what you want your smart phone to be. Try "amazing" like iPhone.

Huh. That's one strange definition of "amazing" you've got there. I'd look up where you found that definition, but the last time I asked my iOS6 phone to look up the location of something, I wound up in southern Brazil when I was trying to get across New York City.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453041)

Huh. That's one strange definition of "amazing" you've got there. I'd look up where you found that definition, but the last time I asked my iOS6 phone to look up the location of something, I wound up in southern Brazil when I was trying to get across New York City.

That is amazing!

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451501)

It smells really strongly of "corporate shill" in here today.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453331)

It smells really strongly of "corporate shill with sockpuppet mod points" in here today.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451545)

Because "quite nice" is not exactly what you want your smart phone to be. Try "amazing" like iPhone.

Amazing? You have an iPhone..... don't your type usually say "FABULOUS!"

Re:Manufacturer's Android (3, Interesting)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41451577)

Because "quite nice" is not exactly what you want your smart phone to be. Try "amazing" like iPhone.

Sounds like apple fanboy talk to me. A smartphone is a smartphone, the amazing should have worn off shortly after you got your first one regardless of the model.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451349)

Because you have a Verizon phone and aren't a first class citizen in the Nexus ecosystem.

I just restored mine back to stock so I could get the official JB ROM. I've been running alternate ROMs for the last few months so I could have JB since Verizon was taking too long to release it. I'm still waiting on my Xoom, which is Nexus in all but name but is also a Verizon device.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (5, Informative)

Scott64 (1181495) | about 2 years ago | (#41451381)

I don't think he's talking about that. That's not full of crap from the manufacturer (Samsung). The Nexus devices are free of all of that crap.

The S III I bought recently got the root/CWM/AOKP treatment within the first couple hours of ownership (as soon as the kids went to bed).

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

ilikenwf (1139495) | about 2 years ago | (#41451533)

Same with my Nexus, minus the kids part. I use AOKP.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451759)

The GP specifically referred to "the manufacturer's version of Android". To whom did you think you were replying?

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451247)

I'm guessing you're willing to help every hamster out there replace their stock firmware, right? Mainly because they aren't as competent as you are.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#41453121)

I'm guessing you're willing to help every hamster out there replace their stock firmware, right? Mainly because they aren't as competent as you are.

Hamsters get smartphones these days? I don't even let my dog have a phone.

Some people and their pets.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (-1, Flamebait)

DigiShaman (671371) | about 2 years ago | (#41451265)

And that's why I decided to go with iPhone. The Droid is nothing more than the PC reincarnated into a mobile device. There are too many make, model, and pre-installed software permutations that make the whole Droid experience more like a cobbled together frankenstein...that works half the time when you really need it in a pinch.

FLAME ON!

Re:Manufacturer's Android (3, Insightful)

admdrew (782761) | about 2 years ago | (#41451409)

[Android is] the PC reincarnated into a mobile device

Correct. Yay freedom!

You have the same freedom on an iPhone (1, Flamebait)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#41452549)

[Android is] the PC reincarnated into a mobile device

Correct. Yay freedom!

You have that same freedom on the iPhone - you can jailbreak.

The difference is that the default non-technical user does not get this "freedom" without some understanding technology that enables them to properly handle the freedom they have...

People like to bring up Android as the platform of choice - but why is it not a valid choice to want a platform more secure by default, again for non-technical users?

Re:You have the same freedom on an iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452889)

[Android is] the PC reincarnated into a mobile device

Correct. Yay freedom!

You have that same freedom on the iPhone - you can jailbreak.

The difference is that the default non-technical user does not get this "freedom" without some understanding technology that enables them to properly handle the freedom they have...

People like to bring up Android as the platform of choice - but why is it not a valid choice to want a platform more secure by default, again for non-technical users?

You seem to think that jailbreaking to load Cydia and some pirated apps is somehow analogous to being able to reload the device with 100% open-source software from the ground up... Interesting... Go away troll.

Re:You have the same freedom on an iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453351)

Android users never pirate. right.

Re:You have the same freedom on an iPhone (3, Funny)

admdrew (782761) | about 2 years ago | (#41453299)

To each their own. Enjoy those maps!

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

na1led (1030470) | about 2 years ago | (#41451439)

Is that also the reason why 99% of the world still use a PC, and not a MAC?

Re:Manufacturer's Android (4, Funny)

jo_ham (604554) | about 2 years ago | (#41452191)

Everyone who uses a computer with a network interface uses a MAC.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (2)

nogginthenog (582552) | about 2 years ago | (#41452943)

I use PPP you insensitive clod!

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1, Informative)

devleopard (317515) | about 2 years ago | (#41452467)

It's actually more like 93% and very slowly diminishing (given Apple's high costs). I suspect over time we'll also see a small percentage of people become tablet-only.

However, it's interesting to see the sentiment shift. Years ago, the assumption about PC use was that Microsoft's unfair business tactics, rather than the superiority of the platform, were what caused the dominance.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451557)

Steve Jobs: "You can have our devices in any configuration you want... as long as you what you want appears on this extensive, exhaustive, comprehensive list:"
1. white
2. black

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

FreonTrip (694097) | about 2 years ago | (#41451561)

Hey, I'm free to take a PC and give it new life with an OS that's well-maintained, or retool it into doing something profoundly different than its designers originally intended. With a smartphone I get to look forward to wrestling with hardware and software put into place to keep me from doing what I want with something I paid for, and the limitations on power and utility put into place by the carrier, engineer, and the simple restrictions necessary for a device to fit into a pocket and have a battery life better than a first-generation Gameboy running on zinc-carbon batteries. So what I'm saying is that in many key ways, the Android experience is substantially worse.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

rickb928 (945187) | about 2 years ago | (#41452071)

"something I paid for, "

For most of us smartphone users, we haven't actually finished paying for our phone. We 'bought' them at the subsidized price, and are paying them off with a slightly inflated monthly service fee. When the contract is up, we 'paid for' them. Sort of.

Which is one reason I kept my G1 for so long...

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452103)

UEFI

Re:Manufacturer's Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451317)

People still use Android ? (Any manufacturer, not only Samsung).

It is bloated, slow, full of useless crap.

The first thing I do on any new android phone that lands in my hands is to replace the phone with something less full of )(@#*)(#$.

FTFY.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (2)

DCstewieG (824956) | about 2 years ago | (#41451357)

Some people might not like voiding their warranty the day they buy their phone.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41452775)

Some people might not like voiding their warranty the day they buy their phone.

Which is why we all make a nandroid backup before flashing a new firmware.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453069)

Only in some countries replacing software system voids warranty.

Example most EU countries, it is legal to replace software system and hardware warranty isn't voided at all, unless company can proof that custom software is responsible for that and they need to proof it with multiple devices with same software that it cause the same problem everytime.

Like if install custom Android and few months later suddenly your speaker gets mute or broken. It is their task to proof that the software suddenly caused that to broke. They need to proof that software sent too high voltage to speaker so it didn't work in its meant specific range.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451431)

Ah, circusware comes to the phone. I'm glad that Android has brought the crappy PC experience to the phone as well.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 2 years ago | (#41451445)

I disagree that, at least in samsung's case, touchwiz runs like crap.

I rooted it and replaced it with non-touchwiz ICS after a few months. It was not really that different to me.

Seems to me that slashdotters and mobile enthusiasts get upset about touchwiz at least on principle, not on any real disadvantages on it. Well... aside from the current vulnerability, so maybe they have a point. Anyway, yes, it comes with Need for speed and some other crap you didn't ask for, and yes some of it can't be uninstalled simply, and yes, it is annoying when samsung delays updating from gingerbread for months and months simply because they haven't finished diddling ICS. But it's not like they took Windows 7 and customized it to the level of crap of windows ME.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

pmontra (738736) | about 2 years ago | (#41452357)

I also quite like Touchwiz. A friend of mine has a Nexus with ICS and I don't see any gain or loss of functionality and speed. The look and feel is different, but that's a matter of personal tastes. Touchwiz on the SG2 is fast, don't know on older phones. Furthermore what I'm using most are the apps (browser, email, ebook reader, etc) and they are exactly the same whatever Android "skin" one is using.
This bug is nasty, I installed exDialer as a workaround as explained in the XDA thread about the bug. I hope Samsung fixes it quickly. The update to 4.1 for my unbranded SG2 is scheduled for November, hopefully they'll bundle it in that one. Don't know what happens on older phones which don't get updates or with carrier specific firmware that has to be approved by the carriers.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

the_humeister (922869) | about 2 years ago | (#41451547)

The second thing I do is install Cyanogenmod. The first thing I do is make sure the device works (sucks having a new cellphone that doesn't work).

Re:Manufacturer's Android (4, Insightful)

Samalie (1016193) | about 2 years ago | (#41451755)

Because this is what the average person does when they buy a driod?

You have to realize...the greatest strength of Andriod is also its greatest failing. Sure, you CAN load a custom firmware...but outside of the tech circles, who the fuck actually DOES it?

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41452415)

I wish there was a more streamlined process for loading custom firmware on an Android phone. I know this is pretty unrealistic, given the number of models out there, but I can still dream, right? I loaded CM on my niece's Galaxy S, and the amount of work it took surprised me (won't list it all here, as I'm sure most people know the process better than I). Once I had it "primed", loading different firmwares was a snap, but getting it to that point was less than fun, and that's probably what stops most people from even attempting it.

(Full disclosure: I'm an iPhone user, and this was my first extensive experience with Android. Though I'm in no way technically challenged, my unfamiliarity with the system probably worked against me and added some time. I'm also sure that more modern [and more popular] hardware has more dev support, and is thus easier to tinker with.)

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41452795)

I wish there was a more streamlined process for loading custom firmware on an Android phone. I know this is pretty unrealistic, given the number of models out there, but I can still dream, right?

Wasn't Ericsson doing something like this ? I remember some talks about them opening a support line and all that to make it easy for people to replace their firmware.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

fearlezz (594718) | about 2 years ago | (#41451785)

Yes, they do. About 95% of people out there would answer "yes" when internet explorer asks "Are you sure you want to install this virus?". And you expect those people to install custom firmware?

Re:Manufacturer's Android (5, Informative)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 2 years ago | (#41451877)

People still use the manufacturer's version of Android ? The first thing I do on any new android phone that lands in my hands is to replace the firmware with something less full of )(@#*)(#$.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not representative of "people" when it comes to this sort of thing. Most people a) are perfectly happy with everything their phone does when it comes out of the box, b) don't even know they can reflash their phone and c) wouldn't have the first clue how to go about it if they did.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41452869)

People still use the manufacturer's version of Android ? The first thing I do on any new android phone that lands in my hands is to replace the firmware with something less full of )(@#*)(#$.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not representative of "people" when it comes to this sort of thing. Most people a) are perfectly happy with everything their phone does when it comes out of the box, b) don't even know they can reflash their phone and c) wouldn't have the first clue how to go about it if they did.

Then they should be buying an iPhone.

Seriously. I'm not an apple fan boy or anything but, out-of-the-box, I find the iPhone to be better(*). The reason I own 3 Android phones and not a single iPhone is because, after I tweak it, they become faster, better and exactly how I want them to be.

* - Of course, I'm disregarding price and different hardware functions, like a qwerty keyboard. Take this as a comparison between the iPhone and an equivalent android device.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

rickb928 (945187) | about 2 years ago | (#41452011)

If you stick to buying a phone that has an unlocked bootloader, or one that has been cracked, then you are golden. If not, you either wait or never get the option.

And there are some phones that are never unlocked.

Good advice that ya just can't always take.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41452907)

If you stick to buying a phone that has an unlocked bootloader, or one that has been cracked, then you are golden. If not, you either wait or never get the option.

And there are some phones that are never unlocked.

Good advice that ya just can't always take.

That is one of the things I check before buying. Turns out most phone are either unlocked or cracked. But you are correct, not all of them are, and people should be careful.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (2)

RMingin (985478) | about 2 years ago | (#41452013)

Good timing, I switched my T-Mo Galaxy S2 over from a customized version of their stock rom to Cyanogenmod this morning, since I have my VoIP/Wifi calling solution tested to my satisfaction. The integrated/zero setup Wifi calling that T-Mobile offers was the one compelling feature of Touchwiz for me.

I seriously think that T-Mo should investigate moving Wifi calling back out into a standalone APK like it used to be. There are lots of folks like me who like the idea but prefer to have a non-T-Mo handset to use it with, but still on T-Mobile's network, which AFAICT should be the primary product.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (1)

morcego (260031) | about 2 years ago | (#41452949)

Good timing, I switched my T-Mo Galaxy S2 over from a customized version of their stock rom to Cyanogenmod this morning, since I have my VoIP/Wifi calling solution tested to my satisfaction. The integrated/zero setup Wifi calling that T-Mobile offers was the one compelling feature of Touchwiz for me.

I seriously think that T-Mo should investigate moving Wifi calling back out into a standalone APK like it used to be. There are lots of folks like me who like the idea but prefer to have a non-T-Mo handset to use it with, but still on T-Mobile's network, which AFAICT should be the primary product.

If you are careful, you can migrate most of the native apps to the new firmware. I did it with Motorola's MotoID. Make a backup with Titanium Backup, and restore it after flashing.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452363)

People still use the manufacturer's version of Android ? (Any manufacturer, not only Samsung).

It is bloated, slow, full of useless crap.

The first thing I do on any new android phone that lands in my hands is to replace the firmware with something less full of )(@#*)(#$.

Yes yes yes, we all get it. Youre a smug, pretentious, and outright arrogant product user. I hope thats what you meant to say because thats exactly how it sounds, like youre talking down to everyone by shoving your nose high in the air as you proclaim how "you do things". You didnt say anything insightful, you didnt start a conversation, you didnt address anything, all youd done is just pop in to make some comment that makes you feel like your savvy and smart infront of a bunch of complete strangers that dont care because you have a big ego and no self esteem.

Back in the real world where the rest of us live hardly anyone does that because the majority of people dont know how to and really dont care or even understand the tiniest bit what the hell you just said.

Im surprised you use android really, because your mentality is usually reserved for only the highest of the holy arrogant apple iphone users.

Re:Manufacturer's Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453003)

First thing first, learn to disable (since Android 4.0) pre-installed apps and LEARN to install another Launcher than OEM own one.

THEN if you still feel that you have "bloated, slow, full of useless crap" Android, you are free to hang yourself to nearest light bulb.

Exclusive free bonus content! (1)

zyche (784345) | about 2 years ago | (#41453183)

But at least there is an offer of exclusive free content [imgur.com] ! Yay!

ROOT IT!!! (1)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#41453329)

Root your android! It will never truely be yours until you do! You can never trust it until you're certain it doesn't call home to your provider.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S2. I'm running a modified ICS spin I downloaded from xda-developers.com with GO Launcher. Touchwiz sucks.

Sure you can stop the remote wipe... (1, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | about 2 years ago | (#41451141)

Just initiate a faster local wipe before the remote wipe finishes.

An strong, nearby EMP should do the trick. If that doesn't work, a nuclear explosion close enough to vaporize the phone will.

Re:Sure you can stop the remote wipe... (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 2 years ago | (#41451925)

Or a strong physical shock also fixes the problem. If you notice it happening, you must immediately throw the phone against another surface hard enough to physically disconnect the CPU from memory, preventing the wipe from completing. Make sure you do it hard enough the first time, because the wipe will be completed before you can pick it up and throw it again.

That's funny (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451151)

Samsung forget to mention this in their ads. The next crappy this is already here. The Samsung Galaxy SHiT.

Re:That's funny (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451207)

Yes, well, there are two reasons to get a Samsung Android product... err... product (just remembered a few non-android things...)

(1) You like low quality hardware and/or buggy software, you find this adds a little extra excitement and spice to your life.
(2) You are stupid.

Oh. A web page. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451163)

Until I read the description, I thought they had slavishly copied Apple again [wired.com] .

Re:Oh. A web page. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451413)

It's Apple phones that can famously be jailbroken by a webpage, so you might still be right.

"Hit the link above for a video demonstration" (2)

Biff98 (633281) | about 2 years ago | (#41451185)

Nukes your phone.

Re:"Hit the link above for a video demonstration" (1)

Cormacus (976625) | about 2 years ago | (#41451397)

Thats what I was thinking. But then I decided it would be impressive enough to risk it... since I was browsing on my desktop machine.

Re:"Hit the link above for a video demonstration" (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41452503)

If that's what the link did, it would probably be the most impressive troll I've personally seen.

That's what backups are for (3, Interesting)

na1led (1030470) | about 2 years ago | (#41451223)

You're more likely to drop the phone in the toilet then getting hacked. Besides, I'm sure Samsung will release a patch soon, so no need to run to the Apple store!

Re:That's what backups are for (4, Funny)

Mordaximus (566304) | about 2 years ago | (#41451527)

You're more likely to drop the phone in the toilet then getting hacked.

I doubt you'll get hacked after having dropped it in the toilet, and if you do you have some rather unfortunate luck.

Re:That's what backups are for (2)

Reality Master 301 (1462839) | about 2 years ago | (#41452825)

Isn't that exactly what's supposed to happen? First toilet-dropping, then wipe?

Re:That's what backups are for (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451581)

Release the patch soon!? Obviously, you've never tried updating an android phone :D

Re:That's what backups are for (5, Insightful)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | about 2 years ago | (#41451749)

Mod Up! Carriers have no motivation to send ROM upgrades. Even if samsung makes them available, I am pretty sure the carriers would never find it worth the airtime to send you the upgrade.

Re:That's what backups are for (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452199)

Guess what, you're exactly right. [pcmag.com]

Shankar told Security Watch that he'd disclosed the vulnerability to manufacturers and carriers in June, and a patch for the firmware was quickly released. But to date, only Google and certain European carriers have sent an over-the-air update to device owners. Hardware manufacturers, including Samsung, have applied the update to their phones as well. So if you buy an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S III from a Samsung store today, you're safe.

"I decided to go public because everyone has the patch now, they've just been sitting on it for months," Shankar said. "It's the duty of carriers to make sure everyone's devices are safe."

Re:That's what backups are for (0)

Algae_94 (2017070) | about 2 years ago | (#41452831)

Why did the guy go public with it at all. If everyone has the patch, he's just harming people that can't or didn't update. The vulnerability was identified and patched because of him. No need to go public with it.

Re:That's what backups are for (0)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41451745)

You're more likely to drop the phone in the toilet then getting hacked. Besides, I'm sure Samsung will release a patch soon, so no need to run to the Apple store!

If someone want's to subject themselves to apple's restrictions, I usually encourage them - it will likely be an educational experience. Moreover, they'll probably be on a long and expensive contract that they won't soon forget.

Re:That's what backups are for (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41452475)

Educational? I would imagine that the typical usage pattern of most Android users is the same as most Apple users. That is to say, they browse the web, check email, watch the occasional video, and download apps from their respective stores. Most people could use either platform interchangeably without issue. It's those folks who like to tweak and customize that are left in the cold on Apple's devices.

I could be wrong, though. I'm not exactly researching the topic, just going by my personal observations.

Re:That's what backups are for (0)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41453233)

Educational? I would imagine that the typical usage pattern of most Android users is the same as most Apple users. That is to say, they browse the web, check email, watch the occasional video, and download apps from their respective stores. Most people could use either platform interchangeably without issue. It's those folks who like to tweak and customize that are left in the cold on Apple's devices.

I could be wrong, though. I'm not exactly researching the topic, just going by my personal observations.

Here's an example. I have a friend who doesn't know anything about computers.. She bought a "now that's what I call music" cd at walmart and wanted me to put it on her iphone 4s. Ripped it to mp3's and... discovered the iphone won't mount as a drive, AND if we were to install itunes on my pc and connect it, apparently it would erase all her other music from her phone. No SD card slot, so that's not an option either. It seems you have to do everything from one pc. There are more examples, but that was low hanging fruit. Afaik, she still hasn't got the music onto her phone but at least her car has a CD player.

Re:That's what backups are for (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 2 years ago | (#41453841)

That's a good point. I ran into the same issue when I was helping my mom with putting an audiobook on her iPhone (she had been using a nano, but left it at a hotel). The iPhone had been synced with another computer, so iTunes wanted to erase the phone. There is a solution to the problem, but it's a bit involved. Basically, you have to use a 3rd-party program to transfer the phone's (or iPod's) library to the second iTunes install, and it will let you do it. It's definitely an area Apple ought to look into, but I doubt they ever will, what with their growing emphasis on iCloud.

As for your specific case, why not have her rip and sync with her computer?

Re:That's what backups are for (1)

devleopard (317515) | about 2 years ago | (#41452637)

Wouldn't I be subjected to the same long and expensive contract if I bought an S3, or does Samsung provide free data plans? (You can purchase both the iPhone and the S3 no commitment)

Re:That's what backups are for (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41453361)

Wouldn't I be subjected to the same long and expensive contract if I bought an S3, or does Samsung provide free data plans? (You can purchase both the iPhone and the S3 no commitment)

Sure, but most people go with the contract and $200 out of pocket (and usually higher corresponding airtime rates for prepaid service if I remember right) rather than laying out $600 bucks up front.
My point is that although Apple's got a reputation for being extremely easy to use, a good portion of that is not well earned. A lot of it is on account of the severe restrictions they place on paying customers. I've got several non techie friends who switched from android or blackberry to the iPhone 4s and most of them have mentioned that they regret it.

Here comes the lawsuits! (4, Funny)

Smidge204 (605297) | about 2 years ago | (#41451311)

You'd have thought Samsung would learn their lesson already. Don't they know that Apple patented remote data wipe technology years ago [macworld.com] ?

=Smidge=

Re:Here comes the lawsuits! (0)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41451823)

You'd have thought Samsung would learn their lesson already. Don't they know that Apple patented remote data wipe technology years ago [macworld.com] ?

=Smidge=

Blackberry had that feature long before iPhone 3 came out. The article you linked doesn't mention anything about a patent, I suspect it's either not patented or rim owns it.

Re:Here comes the lawsuits! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452297)

You're not very good at this humor thing, are you?

Re:Here comes the lawsuits! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452863)

If you have to explain a joke, you are not telling a very good one.

Re:Here comes the lawsuits! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453397)

=Nobody cares about your signature=

Link Warning (4, Informative)

microcars (708223) | about 2 years ago | (#41451395)

has dueling auto-play videos that have nothing to do with subject. so turn down yer volume.

Re:Link Warning (1)

gnapster (1401889) | about 2 years ago | (#41452089)

I immediately opened the video in YouTube and closed the original tab. That is horrible, what they did to us.

Re:Link Warning (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 2 years ago | (#41452279)

Flashblock will fix that for you. Videos don't play until you click them.

Tested it on my phone, didn't work (3, Interesting)

Lebrun (655496) | about 2 years ago | (#41451441)

Galaxy S2 w/ ICS 4.0.3 here. It doesn't work on my phone.

I read "hit the link for a live demonstration" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451631)

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The problem can be avoided by using another dialer (4, Interesting)

fluor2 (242824) | about 2 years ago | (#41451657)

Luckily Android can be very customized and thus we can work around this.

This can be blocked if you use an alternative Dialer App.
E.g. Exdialer [google.com] (free).

Read the XDA thread [xda-developers.com] where they investigate.

"The best solution i see at the moment is to install another dialer - when you navigate to malicious page android will display "choose dialer" dialog before doing anything, and you can cancel the operation by pressing back button. Just don't check "default" checkbox." (Source [xda-developers.com] ).

Of course, a confirmation dialogue should have been shown for *any* USSD codes.

To be honest, I still find it crazy that anybody can borrow a Samsung-phone and press *2767*3855# on the dialer and it would wipe it. This will probably not be fixed even if Samsung patches the dialer.

Re:The problem can be avoided by using another dia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452169)

They could even go in to settings and select Wipe Data / Factory Reset!!!

Re:The problem can be avoided by using another dia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452207)

Hey - is that the new Samsung Galaxy S3? Can I see it a second???

Re:The problem can be avoided by using another dia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452219)

So fanbois stop to bash iPhones Map app (that sucked even when Google was behind it) because of non-technical issues but installing an alternative dialer is considered a valid fix for Android when the "issue" at hand is wiping the entire phone?

Wow. Just wow.

Just another reason to love fanbois. They have no sense of perspective at all.

Re:The problem can be avoided by using another dia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452929)

Not an Android problem. This is Samsung Touchwiz issue.

Re:The problem can be avoided by using another dia (3, Insightful)

Emetophobe (878584) | about 2 years ago | (#41452281)

I mentioned this in another post, but the exploit was already patched a few weeks ago. Source [androidpolice.com] .

Hit the link above for a video demonstration.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451795)

....on your phone only it's not a video !!!! ;-)

Apple Iphone 5s feature? (1)

colin_faber (1083673) | about 2 years ago | (#41451893)

How long until Apple `innovates' this feature? :)

What the hell, ibtimes.co.uk? (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 2 years ago | (#41451961)

Two autoplaying video streams with audio? Yeah, that was a good idea.

Re:What the hell, ibtimes.co.uk? (1)

gnapster (1401889) | about 2 years ago | (#41452121)

And neither one was the video I came to see!

Really? (1)

tooyoung (853621) | about 2 years ago | (#41452113)

//#reset-to-factory_s234!n

This was already fixed (5, Informative)

Emetophobe (878584) | about 2 years ago | (#41452167)

mod parent up (1)

Krischi (61667) | about 2 years ago | (#41452761)

nt

Like I said earlier... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452273)

The Apple shills have taken over this web site.

Apple (0)

Fuzzums (250400) | about 2 years ago | (#41452757)

The question is what Apple will say about this feature.

Re:Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41453523)

"Congratulations, Samsung! You finally came up with something on your own!"

Now...a backup (1)

WhackAttack (2672021) | about 2 years ago | (#41453449)

I am definitely going to back my S2 up now. *shudder*
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