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Man Arrested In Greece For "Blasphemous" Facebook Page

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the where-you-can-be-crucified-but-not-cremated dept.

Crime 412

An anonymous reader writes "A 27-year old man was arrested yesterday in Greece (Greek-language original) by the electronic crime police, for creating a Facebook page "Geron Pastitsios" which made fun of an extremely respected Orthodox Christian monk who lived in Mount Athos, as well as the Greek Church. The arrest came promptly after the Greek far-right party — which holds 7% of the parliament seats — submitted an official petition asking the government to take down the page. The charges that the young man faces are 'blasphemy' and 'disrespect to the religious beliefs of others.'" What would the UN say?

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412 comments

man it sucks here in the USA (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451659)

with all this freedom of speach.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451821)

and this 'news for nerds'...

So the story goes some guy posted junk on his facebook page got arrested for it and I *guess* that makes it 'news for nerds'.

Timothy... a bit of focus please...

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451899)

and this 'news for nerds'...

You realize the tagline/motto is gone, right?

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (1)

incongruency (1683022) | about 2 years ago | (#41452525)

Head on over to the main page, check the <title> element

Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452601)

0wn3d

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (3, Insightful)

Ultra64 (318705) | about 2 years ago | (#41451917)

I like how you conveniently omit the "Stuff that matters" part.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (1)

pla (258480) | about 2 years ago | (#41452019)

I like how you conveniently omit the "Stuff that matters" part.

Well, they did sell out to Dice, which hasn't mattered since the dot-bomb.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (4, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41452039)

"Your Rights Online". Sounds like a nerd issue to me.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (3, Informative)

ethanms (319039) | about 2 years ago | (#41452391)

This is certainly news for nerds. A man is being arrested for posting something on facebook. To be arrested for posting ANYTHING on facebook seems *insane* to me.

The US, for it's faults, certainly does have some good points. I was watching an old (2 years) youtube video about Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee) who was under investigation by the Australian Crimes Commission. He went on TV talking about the investigation, the video I was watching was a follow up by some sort of a talk show host who was saying that it's illegal to talk about the investigation or even admit you are being investigated--that seems absolutely insane to me as well. So not only are we going to accuse of crimes, but it will BE A CRIME if you tell anyone we are investigating you......... that is nuts.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451937)

It won't matter for long if our leaders continue to apologize for the "mis-use" of our rights instead of boldly defending them. We're harassing the hell out of some guy who made a 2nd-rate movie about Muhammad and making sure the world sees him being put into the back seat of a car. Then our government buys airtime on Pakistani TV to apologize for his actions. This freedom stuff is fragile so pay attention!

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (4, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | about 2 years ago | (#41452585)

We're harassing the hell out of some guy who made a 2nd-rate movie about Muhammad and making sure the world sees him being put into the back seat of a car.

First I've heard of it. Who's "we"? Last I heard the guy is still pretty anonymous.

Then our government buys airtime on Pakistani TV to apologize for his actions.

Er, no, that's to explain to the people of Pakistan that the US government does not have any control over what individuals say and that in America there is freedom of speech.

This freedom stuff is fragile so pay attention!

Yeah. Pay attention.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452237)

Yeah, I'm so glad I live in the US where murderers and rapists are released from prison in half the time of non-violent drug offenders.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452253)

with all this freedom of speach.

Thankfully, we've cracked down on the freedom of snectarine.

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452303)

Sorry, in the US that phrase is copyrighted for 75+ yrs

Re:man it sucks here in the USA (2)

alexborges (313924) | about 2 years ago | (#41452461)

Bout 2 and half milenia since Socrates and this guys cant get it through their thick head. Really, human stupidity knows no bounds.

bread and circuses (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451687)

Well, perhaps this kind of controversy is exactly what the Greek government needs to turn attention away from the economy.

Electronic Crime Police (5, Funny)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | about 2 years ago | (#41451689)

Tracking down those vile criminals, one bit at a time.

Re:Electronic Crime Police (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451791)

Tracking down those vile criminals, one bit at a time.

Clearly in the age of unending greed we've redefined what a criminal is.

Nothing like pulling "crimes" clean out of ones ass to force defendants to pay for legal assistance to fight a non-issue...talk about blasphemy...

Re:Electronic Crime Police (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452265)

Vaguely related [dilbert.com] to the subject of bits and crime police...

Time to make fun of the entire Greek government (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451705)

Wait - they might go greek on my ass if I did.

Lack of tolerance to other religions (3, Insightful)

tokul (682258) | about 2 years ago | (#41451713)

'blasphemy' is anachronism from middle ages. 'disrespect to the religious beliefs of others.' is exactly what he have done.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (5, Insightful)

readin (838620) | about 2 years ago | (#41451779)

'blasphemy' is anachronism from middle ages. 'disrespect to the religious beliefs of others.' is exactly what he have done.

And it should be legal.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (4, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | about 2 years ago | (#41452603)

'blasphemy' is anachronism from middle ages. 'disrespect to the religious beliefs of others.' is exactly what he have done.

And it should be legal.

It should be mandatory. All religions are crazy.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (5, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#41451805)

By holding onto one set of beliefs, you implicitly disrespect all other sets of beliefs whether you want it or not.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (2)

wcrowe (94389) | about 2 years ago | (#41452365)

Insightful? What you just stated is "one set of beliefs", which means you're no better than anyone else.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#41452561)

If ir is a belief, it's a belief about beliefs, or a meta-belief, if you prefer. I'm not versed in this area of thought processes, but isn't there a certain set of rules for this that most reasonable people accept? And I'm sorry for being disrespectful to your beliefs, but the other part ("which means you're no better than anyone else") feels like a strong non-sequitur to me. In cases where there is a single objective reality, at most one person out of a set of persons with different beliefs about reality can be correct, and the worst thing that can happen is that you don't know which one of them, if any, is right. At most you can say that you don't know whether my statement is better than anyone else's. It certainly does not follow from my statement "forming a belief" that it isn't.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (1)

englishknnigits (1568303) | about 2 years ago | (#41452425)

Disagreeing and disrespecting aren't the same thing.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (1)

raydobbs (99133) | about 2 years ago | (#41452573)

Sadly, few of the ultra-religious see the difference between the two anymore. Not being with them means your against them, not agreeing with them means you disrespect and hate everything they hold dear - no tolerance, no compromise, no glittering future. Just the likely ending of our hands around their necks, and their hands around ours as the world as we know it fades to black.

Forever.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452615)

There's no law about disrespecting anything - if there is, that's disrespectful.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41452477)

I respectfully disagree.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (2)

Maximum Prophet (716608) | about 2 years ago | (#41452481)

Not if you are a Universalist. All religions are correct. Even the ones that say Universalists are incorrect.

An infinite, onmipotent God is big enough to be an Atheist, Baptist, Catholic, Pastafarian, Hindu, Moslem, ... at the same time.

When you get to heaven/hell, you get a private heaven/hell, created just for you, with exactly what you expect. So does everyone else.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (4, Interesting)

pla (258480) | about 2 years ago | (#41451987)

'disrespect to the religious beliefs of others.' is exactly what he have done.

People need to earn my respect. You don't automatically get it by virtue of your gender, you don't get it because of your age, you don't get it because you have nice hair, you don't get it because some morons voted for you... And you certainly don't get it just because you have the older fairy tale.

When you can rephrase a law that still amounts to an anachronism in a way that it doesn't refer to thoughtcrime, let me know.


We need to get over this BS of "religious tolerance". I "tolerate" anything that doesn't affect me. If your brand of delusions negatively affect me, then no, I will not tolerate that.

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (3, Insightful)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41452083)

Having to earn respect is a lot different from deserving disrespect. And we all have delusions, which quite often negatively effect others. The point of tolerance is to prevent one brand of delusion from harming another (or from harming something that isn't a delusion, but also can't be proven as such, therefore causing other people who disagree to brand it as a delusion).

Re:Lack of tolerance to other religions (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#41452321)

I have a religious belief that free speech is sacred, and any restriction on that speech is disrespectful to my religion.

So tired... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451715)

So tired of religion. When will it end?!

Re:So tired... (1)

Proteus Cortex (2511824) | about 2 years ago | (#41451761)

Seems that it will take some time... A looooong time...

Re:So tired... (1)

halfEvilTech (1171369) | about 2 years ago | (#41451895)

December 21, 2012, well if you believe in the Mayans

Re:So tired... (1)

Fallingcow (213461) | about 2 years ago | (#41452385)

I think you mean 1997, October 1

The END DAY

Re:So tired... (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41452493)

Never. Deal.

Re:So tired... (2)

hackula (2596247) | about 2 years ago | (#41452579)

One brain at a time. It was a pretty serious infestation. Just give it time.

This arrest is blasphemous (2, Funny)

nweaver (113078) | about 2 years ago | (#41451737)

As the founder of the 42nd New Reformed Neo-Rebel Orthodox Pastafarian Church (newly created, 30 seconds ago), I find that all laws against blasphemy are blasphemous against my religion.

So such laws must be eliminated because they are self-violating.

Re:This arrest is blasphemous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452131)

Sorry: whoever gets offend first, wins. :-p

Re:This arrest is blasphemous (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452251)

Where can I subscribe to your sect?

Also what's your view on pirates and global warming?
Oh, and how many holidays do I get?

But isn't eliminating blasphemy laws not also self-violating? ie Blasphemy should be legal by (unwritten) law?

Na, let's just outlaw this whole religion thingy.

R'amen

Re:This arrest is blasphemous (3, Informative)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41452373)

Greek Orthodox Church is the only one that has special status in Greek constitution. Others need not apply. Go away, infidel.

It's to wonder... (1)

Kensai7 (1005287) | about 2 years ago | (#41451739)

How the hell they managed to lift the privacy of the user and give his name to the public so quickly... I really doubt there is such a fast lane for any other crime. Obviously, a "Barbara Streisand" effect has ensued on the Greek blogosphere and Facebook pages were similar pages have popped up.

Re:It's to wonder... (3, Insightful)

sumdumass (711423) | about 2 years ago | (#41452037)

The "Barbara Streisand" effect can actually be hazardous for the accused here. Supposing that the charge is actually valid enough to surpass a cursory ruling of the courts, his crime is essentially the equivilent of pointing something out that makes someone else look bad in public. If a lot more public are now aware of it, then potentially the harm or problems these actions caused are now compounded.

Blasphemy laws are not necessarily about hiding the certain speech. They are more to the point of stopping it altogether. The bigger the exposure the bigger the penalty might be in order to discourage the behavior in the future. Of course people outside of Greece's jurisdiction don't really need to worry about them.

I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451747)

but I think that Greeks got a sick sense of humor.

Petition... (5, Informative)

kyriosdelis (1100427) | about 2 years ago | (#41451777)

...to repeal the Greek blasphemy law is here [change.org] .

Politics (4, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 2 years ago | (#41451787)

Politics is the same everywhere. I'm guessing it's an election year in Greece too. Politicians doing outlandish things they know will never hold up in any court is what we call "tuesday" across the pond. Conservatives over here have done things like pass laws forbidding global warming. Not research into it, or funding for it, but global warming itself. They've made being the Earth a crime. Elsewhere in America, there is a state now where, by law, every woman is pregnant. No, I'm not joking -- they legislated the definition of conception to be two weeks before sexual contact. No more virgins here, good sirs! Still no word on whether they're allowed to use the car pool lanes.

And those aren't even examples of religious non-sense, which makes the above examples look positively civil by comparison. *hugs* Greek citizens, we feel your pain too.

Re:Politics (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451997)

Please use a citation, I'm having trouble understanding this.

Also, girlintraining? Are you a transgirl who will make out with me?

Re:Politics (1)

sumdumass (711423) | about 2 years ago | (#41452081)

The scariest thing here is that you pretend to be informed enough to vote and one would assume you actually attempt the process. Politics being the same elsewhere is probably the closest truth in your post.

Re:Politics (1, Insightful)

ethanms (319039) | about 2 years ago | (#41452563)

Conservatives over here have done things like pass laws forbidding global warming

They've made being the Earth a crime

in America, there is a state now where, by law, every woman is pregnant

Seriously... wtf are you talking about? You either need to put down the crack pipe, or provide legitimate citations for these (and then pass the crack pipe over here)

Re:Politics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452661)

At least you're free to say so.

The inmates are running the prison... (4, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#41451793)

The monks on Mount Athos have a quite a history of corruption and greed (see, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatopedi_monastery#Land_deal_controversy [wikipedia.org] ). I wonder if this blasphemy case is a retaliatory measure against a whistleblower?

Re:The inmates are running the prison... (1)

NettiWelho (1147351) | about 2 years ago | (#41451839)

Re:The inmates are running the prison...

Except in this case, its the mental patients running the country.

Re:The inmates are running the prison... (3, Interesting)

OnlineAlias (828288) | about 2 years ago | (#41452193)

Indeed these guys stole billions from the Greek government (and therefore the people) through unheard of levels of corruption. No doubt, that is what the site was about. Seems the priests are now defending themselves through that very same corruption. Greeks are unbelievable.

Eh... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451809)

Don't the Greek have more important things to worry about?

Re:Eh... (1)

fredrated (639554) | about 2 years ago | (#41452047)

Heck no, they are doing just fine, thank you.

Hurt feelings all around (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451843)

So they're down to arresting people for hurting their feelings, are they? Or are they still merely arresting them for hurting their God's feelings?

"far right" means?? (2, Insightful)

readin (838620) | about 2 years ago | (#41451865)

So when someone makes a video attacking Islam, he's called "far right" and it is the moderates who make his film illegal and ban him from their country (as the UK did to Geert Wilders). But when someone makes a facebook page attacking Orthodox Christians, he's a moderate and the people who want the facebook banned are called "far right".

Just trying to make sure I understand the definition of "far right".

Re:"far right" means?? (2, Insightful)

OakDragon (885217) | about 2 years ago | (#41451963)

As per usual, it's sloppy shorthand for "do not like".

Then You Don't Know What Golden Dawn Is (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 2 years ago | (#41452079)

As per usual, it's sloppy shorthand for "do not like".

As per usual, it's just someone calling a political party what it calls itself. They are talking about Golden Dawn [wikipedia.org] . If you'd like to go into Wikipedia and change the political position of Golden Dawn to "do not like" from "Far-right" I think you will find that both liberal and conservative editors will tell you to take a hike.

Re:"far right" means?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451981)

In this particular case it means a party with neo-nazi beliefs. It pretty much means as far right as you can get.

Re:"far right" means?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452007)

You are obviously far right.

Re:"far right" means?? (2, Insightful)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | about 2 years ago | (#41452111)

far right: (adj) political ideology that predisposes adherents to passive-aggressive whining about how no one likes them

Re:"far right" means?? (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#41452153)

Just trying to make sure I understand the definition of "far right".

I think it refers to the same group of Greek politicians that once put thousands of Greek leftists into concentration camps.

Re:"far right" means?? (2)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41452515)

So when someone makes a video attacking Islam, he's called "far right" and it is the moderates who make his film illegal and ban him from their country (as the UK did to Geert Wilders). But when someone makes a facebook page attacking Orthodox Christians, he's a moderate and the people who want the facebook banned are called "far right".

Just trying to make sure I understand the definition of "far right".

Conservatism (and thus "right", including "far right"), because it includes defense of traditional institutions, differs in detail based on local tradition. So, in a historically predominantly Christian country, exclusionary Christian extremism is a right-wing activity.

Sometimes that manifests in mockery directed against religions other than the locally-dominant form of Christianity. Sometimes it manifests in using the power of the State against those directing mockery at the locally-dominant form of Christianity.

Note that, because such actions (wherever there originators are located) can have broader visibility than the context in which they originate, you can produce conflicts where both the provocation and the response are far-right, despite being opposed to each other -- such as where a mockery against Islam created in a dominantly-Christian country triggers a violent response in dominantly-Islamic areas.

Not that I am agreeing with your characterization of the general portrayals (I think your "far right" bits are on point in terms of how things have been portrayed, I think your "moderate" bits are not.)

Don't you just loooove Conservatism? (1, Insightful)

dryriver (1010635) | about 2 years ago | (#41451867)

Crappy right-wing deregulation & economic policymaking is allowed. Fighting illegal wars against far weaker enemies is allowed, with massive civilian casualties. Being an anti-immigration racist is allowed. ---- But show an exposed female nipple on TV, or say something negative about the Church or Clergy, and they will hunt you down, brother! --------- These people need to get a life.. Whatever this man said online, its freedom of speech! Love it or hate it...

Re:Don't you just loooove Conservatism? (3, Informative)

sumdumass (711423) | about 2 years ago | (#41452173)

I can understand that you have no concept of anything outside America. But you should note that this is about Greece, not the US. Crying about what you think is wrong in the US has nothing to do with the situation in a foreign country.

Re:Don't you just loooove Conservatism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452263)

So ready to pronounce your hatred, you fail to notice the context of this post. You're doing the very same thing you're decrying.

Re:Don't you just loooove Conservatism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452429)

This has *nothing* to do with Conservatism.

Greece has money to police 'electronic crime?' (5, Funny)

GungaDan (195739) | about 2 years ago | (#41451897)

Did one of them finally pay taxes?

Stop applying (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41451911)

the rules of your club to people who aren't in your club.

This just in:
My belief states I always get to play the ship piece in monopoly. Anyone who says otherwise should be arrested for blasphemy. If Parker Brothers stop putting the piece in the game, then they are committing blasphemy.

Liam Neeson is angry (3, Funny)

Spy Handler (822350) | about 2 years ago | (#41451921)

Greek government is blaspheming against Zeus, the true god of Greece. Time to arrest them all and put Sam Worthington (son of Zeus) in charge.

Re:Liam Neeson is angry (2)

ethanms (319039) | about 2 years ago | (#41452633)

Let's keep this legitimate and put Kevin Sorbo in charge please.

lol euros (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451957)

Ahh europe where "freedom of speech" means "say anything you want unless someone doesn't like it"

Re:lol euros (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41452593)

Care to tell us where it's different?

Such comments have been seen in Scandinavia too (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41451977)

Similar comments have been seen in Scandinavia too, from e.g. Ana Maria Narti [wikipedia.org] in tabloid Expressen [expressen.se] :

"Varför har vi lagar om religionsfrihet, varför har vi religiösa skolor och varför får religionen plats i det offentliga livet, t ex vid riksdagens högtidliga öppnande? Inte i första hand därför att internationella konventioner kräver det, utan därför att religion utgör en oerhört viktig del i många människors identitet. Det finns folk som definierar sig själva genom tron – vissa grupper av judar, armenier, tibetaner. Vi visar respekt för alla medmänniskor om lagarna, skolan och det offentliga livet skyddar alla individers och alla gruppers identitet. Och lagarna behövs därför att våldet riktat mot tron fortfarande är närvarande mitt bland oss. "

Google translation:

"Why do we have laws on religious freedom, which is why we have religious schools and why religion must place in public life, such as the Parliamentary solemn opening? Not primarily because international conventions require it, but because religion is a very important part of many people's identity. There are people who define themselves by faith - some groups of Jews, Armenians, Tibetans. We show respect for all fellows of the laws, school and public life will protect all individuals and all groups identity. And the laws are needed because the violence directed against the belief is still present in our midst."

Releigious people want to have something to say, in and as part of everyday society too I am afraid. They were essentially kicked out of politics a few centuries ago in the educated world but the recent happenings on the international scene has made religious beliefs "part of an identity"... Sigh...

This is getting dangerous, all over the world. Science has not killed off superstition and vague, wishful ideas.

As a Christian, I would like to appologize (5, Insightful)

WilliamGeorge (816305) | about 2 years ago | (#41452025)

For this sort of behavior on the part of others claiming to be Christians. I don't want to be persecuted for speaking my mind and what I believe, and so I do not believe anyone should be arrested or harmed for speaking out or posting things online. There is a fine line to walk when things become violent (death threats) or obscene (pornographic), but in so far as possible we need to be open and free in dialog if we want to have civil and prosperous societies.

This is one of the few things that is still great about the US (where I live), though it is slipping day by day even here. But arresting someone for what they post? Or worse, in Islamic areas, killing people for what *others* post? I don't see how that sort of behavior can lead to anything good.

Am I missing something here? (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41452043)

Doesn't blasphemy require attacking actual deities or assorted holy objects/texts/persons, rather than mere religious functionaries, however pious?

If anything, isn't it (in the context of an ostensible monotheism, like eastern orthodoxy) verging on blasphemy to assert that satire against a mere man is blasphemous?

Obviously, religious functionaries have the same interest in conflating their own status with the priviliged status accorded to dieties, just as politicians generally do their best to conflate their own persons and administrations with lofty things like 'Nation' and 'The Office of the President'; but, in both cases, it is actually a vital part of the protection of the genuinely venerated things to mock and dissuade the assorted grifters who attempt to parasitize them. Not doing that swiftly turns your religion into a cult or your government into an autocracy...

Re:Am I missing something here? (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41452631)

Do you really think this is about actual blasphamy?

Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (1)

hovelander (250785) | about 2 years ago | (#41452045)

Islam needs a Monty Python of their own to put things into perspective. Of course, the comedy troupe would most certainly be hunted in this day and age.

"Freedom of Speech except when it comes to my stuff" in untenable.

Yes, I remember Life Of Brian was censored in parts of the UK. The above point still stands.

Re:Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (1)

hovelander (250785) | about 2 years ago | (#41452259)

Yeah, wrong place to post this. Just had to vent it out here. Silly Santas in the Sky make too many die. All of em made up without a wit of proof so far.

I'll be waiting on Zues' bolt of almighty buggering for getting my original post's religion wrong. So many to choose from throughout time! I get them all mixed up with whose peanut butter is who's and whose chocolate isn't actually chocolate at all.

Re:Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (0)

hovelander (250785) | about 2 years ago | (#41452335)

Damn you slashdot. An edit button may take you out of the wagon wheel era. Do we have to geek riot to get one?

Re:Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41452413)

Do Not Want.
An edit button is bad and easily abused. Here is a clue, how about you slow down and carefully read before posting? Shocking, I know , not having technology that allows you to be lazy.

Re:Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (1)

idontgno (624372) | about 2 years ago | (#41452531)

Damn you slashdot. An edit button may take you out of the wagon wheel era.

Adding an edit button would be blasphemous.

Hell, complaining about the lack of an edit button is pretty unpious. When was the last time you went to Cathedral? Don't lie, we're going to check.

Re:Holy Grail of The Life of Brian (1)

hazah (807503) | about 2 years ago | (#41452649)

Think twice, post once, my friend.

What is the Golden Dawn party about? (5, Insightful)

synir (731266) | about 2 years ago | (#41452057)

The extreme right-wing party in question - let's call it what it is, neofascist - has been a much mocked tiny minority for the last thirty years or so in Greece. They ran magazines praising the values of Hitler's Germany, the old dodecatheon (I kid you not) of Zeus and Hera and kept to their own niche of society talking about ancient aliens that gifted the race with superweapons waiting for the day to come to rise again. But no more. When the economy took a dramatic downturn they turned their preaching toward populism instead. Gone are the mentions of the Gods from any speeches or articles now that they figured they can catch a lot more followers (and votes) by supporting the most fanatical aspects of the Orthodox Church instead. So this is what it's all about. An opportunity to appeal to the masses as defending Christianity when several of their higher ups weren't even Christians up to a few years ago, and a party openly supporting racism making a bid for political power any way they can get it. They could care less about the venerable monk.

"Let the gods avenge themselves" (4, Insightful)

dargaud (518470) | about 2 years ago | (#41452107)

-- Roman law maxim [wikiquote.org]

Re:"Let the gods avenge themselves" (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | about 2 years ago | (#41452679)

Roman law maxim

Also, Christian. See, e.g., Romans 12:19.

how about satanism ? (1)

rroman (2627559) | about 2 years ago | (#41452177)

In Christianity, there are usually the devils viewed as the bad guys and Christians are often speaking against them.which could be considered blasphemy against god/gods in satanism. How about arresting all Christians in Greece?

Just to speak out (4, Informative)

jdavidb (449077) | about 2 years ago | (#41452211)

I am a Christian. I am not Orthodox, but I have enjoyed reading about their church and traditions online, and I have a lot of respect for them as compared to a lot of Protestantism.

But this is intolerable. Requiring anybody to respect anything is slavery and is an unChristian violation of liberties. The Bible says in the New Testament in 1 Corinthians 15 that the church's judgment is to be enforced only within the church. Even St. Paul the Apostle expressly denied that he had any authority to judge those who are outside of the church.

This is wrong, immoral, and unChristian.

Re:Just to speak out (2)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41452433)

But since our discourse has now turned to the subject of blasphemy, I desire to ask one favor of you all, in return for this my address, and speaking with you; which is, that you will correct on my behalf the blasphemers of this city. And should you hear any one in the public thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the place of justice, follow them thither; and when the judge on the bench calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of angels! For if it be necessary to punish those who blaspheme an earthly king, much more so those who insult God.

- St John Chrysostom, 4th century

(a saint in Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, and many Protestant churches)

Re:Just to speak out (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41452653)

I don't think that's correct. Link?

Bad Analogy Warning (2)

srussia (884021) | about 2 years ago | (#41452215)

This could be construed as "incendiary", like in Holocaust denial laws in Germany, or yelling "fire" in a crowded theater (bad pun intended).

Getting fined in California for selling foie gras, or jailed for growing grass strikes me as far more absurd.

Re:Bad Analogy Warning (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41452495)

If some having an opinion about you religion, ad you don't like it? grow the fuck up. The only people that should be thrown into prison are the people KILLING other people becasue they don't like what someone else said.

Thought Criminals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41452287)

Just a bunch of thought criminals.

You're only making it worse for yourself (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | about 2 years ago | (#41452317)

You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering the name of our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer...you are to be stoned to death.

electronic crime police (3, Funny)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#41452379)

A 27-year old man was arrested yesterday in Greece (Greek-language original) by the electronic crime police

look, can't we just remove their batteries or reboot them or something? maybe a re-install is needed?

greece, lol (0)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about 2 years ago | (#41452459)

And they wonder why they're poor. Hopefully they'll be out of the EU soon.
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