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Colocation Provider PRQ Raided; Wikileaks and Many Torrent Sites Offline

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the defense-turret-proves-ineffective dept.

Piracy 138

An anonymous reader writes with some chilling news about PRQ, the infamous colo founded by two Pirate Bay founders. From the article: "Stockholm police raided the free-speech focused firm (PRQ) Monday and took four of its servers, the company's owner Mikael Viborg told the Swedish news outlet Nyheter24. While a number of bittorrent-based filesharing sites including PRQ's most notorious client, the Pirate Bay, have been down for most of Monday as well as PRQ's own website, Viborg told the Swedish news site that the site outages were the result of a technical issue, rather than the police's seizure of servers." Torrentfreak is reporting that the Pirate Bay isn't using PRQ for anything important (if at all), and that their downtime is due to a faulty PDU that happened to fail as a coincidence.

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Free speech under attack. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519351)

More and more these days, it seems like the Governments of the world are trying to suppress free speech. People should be up in arms over this. These locations should be protected with armed guards, with order to shoot first and ask questions second.

Re:Free speech under attack. (-1, Troll)

noh8rz9 (2716595) | about 2 years ago | (#41519489)

good riddance i cant stand those wikileaks people. show some courage and man up to your "leaks." dont hide in an embassy like a sissy.

Re:Free speech under attack. (0)

ClintJCL (264898) | about 2 years ago | (#41519913)

Because allowing yourself to be killed is the real sign of a man. Now prove it by walking into your nearest highway.

Re:Free speech under attack. (0, Troll)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41520253)

Riiiiight. Because Abu Hamza [wikipedia.org] has only one country which has to approve his extradition (instead of two in the case of Assange), has few fans (compared to Assange, who according to polls has on the order of hundreds of millions), was trying to *set up terrorist training camps inside the US* (instead of leaking videos and cables), has no "get out of extradition free" card from being charged with an intelligence-related crime (Swedish law bans extradition for intelligence matters), and on and on... and he's *still* in the UK. He was arrested in 2004, and he's *still* not extradited. And the US has already not only promised no death penalty, no abuse, no guantanamo, they even had to promise not to send him to a Supermax prison. And he's still not sent. And we're supposed to worry about Julian F'ing Assange and his paranoid fantasyland? Especially after this [guardian.co.uk] ?

Anyway, hey, remember way back when Ghandi was charged with raping someone, and he went and hid in an embassy? Oh, that's right, he went to f'ing jail for actual political charges. Well, remember when Mandela was charged with raping someone, and he went and hid in an embassy? Oh, that's right, he went to f'ing jail for actual political charges. But no, Assange walks around like he's a hero, bragging about how much of a hero he is, when the actual felony he's facing is that he waited until a girl (SW) was asleep in order to F' her unprotected because she wouldn't let him do it while awake [www.nnn.se] . And the crazy thing is he hardly even denies the charges. His legal team admits that she had been refusing unprotected sex the night before (it'd be hard not to, they have a condom with DNA matching the DNA sample from inside her, and she talked with friends that night talking about how he kept trying to F' her without protection and how she was getting really frustrated with it). Even the guy's own legal team was not challenging the fact that they "found Mr Assange's sexual behaviour in these encounters disreputable, discourteous, disturbing or even pushing towards the boundaries of what they were comfortable with" [guardian.co.uk] His team claims only that she woke up, was fully conscious, and then consented to sex. Which is just patently absurd, given that she had been just telling people about how upset she was about him trying to have unprotected sex with her, and she has a "paper trail" a mile long of being afraid of pregnancy and STDs, to the point where her previous boyfriend of 2 1/2 years testified that not only did she not once allow unprotected sex (it was "unthinkable" to her), but she even had him get STD tested before *protected* sex. So she woke up in the middle of the night, after complaining repeatedly about him trying to violate a lifelong principle, was fully conscious, and decided to change her views on unprotected sex? *Really*?

Assange has appealed the case in five separate courts and lost all of them: three in the UK, including the UK supreme court, and two in Sweden (the Svea court hearings), the latter two specifically focusing on the forensic evidence and interviews. But no, a random assange-fan echo chamber sourcing most of its info from Assange's admitted liar lawyer [judiciary.gov.uk] is justice, while five separate actual courts in first-world nations are railroading, right?

Just pathetic. Assange is dodging some serious F'ing charges here, and it's horrible to see so many people cheering on the majorly [guardian.co.uk] misogynist [archive.org] ego-driven [archive.org] teenager-stalker [gawker.com] cat abuser [vanityfair.com] with a fathering obsession [dailymail.co.uk] for doing so.

Re:Free speech under attack. (-1, Troll)

ClintJCL (264898) | about 2 years ago | (#41520335)

Ghandi and Mandela going to jail were idiot moves that took away the enjoyment of their lives, as well as hindered them from taking the direct action they wanted to take. Martyrdom is for terrorists.

Re:Free speech under attack. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520363)

Faggot.

Re:Free speech under attack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520553)

What a load of bollocks.

Re:Free speech under attack. (5, Informative)

psiclops (1011105) | about 2 years ago | (#41521191)

Because Abu Hamza [wikipedia.org] has only one country which has to approve his extradition (instead of two in the case of Assange), has few fans (compared to Assange, who according to polls has on the order of hundreds of millions), was trying to *set up terrorist training camps inside the US* (instead of leaking videos and cables), has no "get out of extradition free" card from being charged with an intelligence-related crime (Swedish law bans extradition for intelligence matters), and on and on... and he's *still* in the UK.

So your argument against the belief that he is only being extradited to Sweeden so that he can then be sent to the U.S. is to present evidence of how difficult is is to get someone extradited directly from the U.K to the U.S.?

And we're supposed to worry about Julian F'ing Assange and his paranoid fantasyland? Especially after this [guardian.co.uk]?

you're sourcing a news article that's nearly 2 years old. Try looking at what's being going on more recently. like Within the last week [smh.com.au] we have news that "THE US military has designated Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as enemies of the United States - the same legal category as the al-Qaeda terrorist network and the Taliban insurgency."

"Declassified US Air Force counter-intelligence documents, released under US freedom-of-information laws, reveal that military personnel who contact WikiLeaks or WikiLeaks supporters may be at risk of being charged with "communicating with the enemy", a military crime that carries a maximum sentence of death."

Re:Free speech under attack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522147)

THE US military has designated Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as enemies of the United States - the same legal category as the al-Qaeda terrorist network and the Taliban insurgency.

Ah, yes, the standard "make things sound worse than they are by providing a negative association in the headline" tactic. I guess saying "have designated Assange and Wikileaks as Enemies of the State- the same legal category as Martin Luther King and Henry David Thoreau" just doesn't get the weak-minded whipped up into a religious fervor.

"reveal that military personnel who contact WikiLeaks or WikiLeaks supporters may be at risk of being charged with "communicating with the enemy", a military crime that carries a maximum sentence of death."

Uh, well yea it's called "Espionage" and such a designation actually does NOT carry any "legal" status and it's not a "legal" category. What it does is sets a uniform policy for US Military people where they are not allowed to have certain types of communications, business relationships, etc. with such an organization or person or it will be automatically considered to be "communicating with the enemy" aka Treason. It doesn't apply to civilians at all, it doesn't allow anybody in the government to do anything differently in regards to Assange or Wikileaks either.

So your argument against the belief that he is only being extradited to Sweeden so that he can then be sent to the U.S. is to present evidence of how difficult is is to get someone extradited directly from the U.K to the U.S.?

I'm not sure what point he was trying to make, but here's the actual reason why Assange's claim is BS:
From the Wiki- "As a member state of the European Union, the United Kingdom is party to an agreement whereby extradition must be refused to any country which has the death penalty and where the suspect is to be tried in a capital case." Which kind of ruins his whole argument that he didn't want to go to Sweden out of fear of deportation to the US, as both the UK and Sweden are bound by the same agreement so it doesn't matter which country he's in.

Re:Free speech under attack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522955)

Yes. Given the fact that he's got to be extradited VIA the UK. Since he is arrested under common European law, that is an absolute requirement. He would need to get extradited back to the UK and _then_ to the US, and the charges need to be valid in Sweden _and_ UK.

Also the fact that you point out that the maximum sentence is death invalidates your entire argument anyways. It is absolutely _forbidden_ in Sweden as well as all EU member states to extradite someone to a country if possible sentences include death. It is not considered civilized over here and there are all kinds of legal guarantees to protect against it. It is even a requirement to even get considered for EU membership, something some of the newer member states from the former eastern block had experience with first hand.

Considering the number of spooks and Vietnam runaways that has gotten refuge in Europe over the past fifty years, and no one has been extradited for the above reasons, I'd say we can be pretty sure about this.

50 year prison is worse than death (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about 2 years ago | (#41523345)

The US will fake it with a lesser charge that has 20 year jail.

Then accidentally, he will be 'killed by a madman' psycho who was accidentally mixed in his cell.

100% proof this has happened before, the FBI has 100s and countless of ex-agents FIRED or in JAIL for faking evidence or ruining or killing others.

Yeah a little known and not heavily publicized fact, crooks are in the system too.

Re:50 year prison is worse than death (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524445)

Which makes the whole conspiracy absurd then - why go through this whole mess if they just wanted to kill him and make it look like an accident? Heck, at this point in time the *easiest* way to do that would be to let him go to Ecuador, where crime is rampant.

go back to your CIA office REI (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about 2 years ago | (#41523311)

He has had no charges filed against him.

Now go back to BuyMore to find your next dumbass 20s agents.

Re:go back to your CIA office REI (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524421)

Nor can charges be filed in absentia. Your point?

In Sweden, charges are the last thing that happens before a trial, and there's a time limit between laying them and the trial. Sweden has lots of those pesky "protections for the accused" - how dare they, right?

Re:Free speech under attack. (4, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41519499)

Spot on, and seeing this happen in a place like Sweden makes it even more disturbing. We are in regression, or devolution. Don't know which is more correct, but it's not good. It can only result in a new, very dark age. The desire for freedom is seen as a sign of lunacy to many.

Re:Free speech under attack. (5, Insightful)

evanism (600676) | about 2 years ago | (#41522141)

I don't think we have ever been really free, at least in a modern sense.

I suspect the early Picts, Vikings and other tribes had significantly more freedom than we have today.

We live in a pervasive information society, one where the government is the biggest customer and companies are all too happy to sell our data to it.

Our grandchildren will piss on our graves for what we have allowed.

Re:Free speech under attack. (4, Insightful)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 2 years ago | (#41520643)

What I want to know is why sites like this keep trying to locate in unfriendly countries. Why not put them in someplace safe, like Russia? Is the bandwidth there a big problem or something?

And yes I know, Russia isn't exactly a big fan of free speech either, but they don't give two shits about IP laws and certainly not about protecting American IP. If you put something on your servers that criticizes Putin, sure you'll get shut down. But if you put up tons of pirated American media for people to download (let alone simply torrents), they're not going to care, instead they'd welcome the business.

Remember AllOfMP3.com? (1)

1800maxim (702377) | about 2 years ago | (#41521461)

Russia is not immune to pressure about IP laws.

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Yomers (863527) | about 2 years ago | (#41521759)

This is not true, in Russia it would happen earlier, there are multiple examples of seized servers due to IP violations. One country that I know that does not have IP laws is Vietnam.

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Neil_Brown (1568845) | about 2 years ago | (#41523037)

One country that I know that does not have IP laws is Vietnam.

Are you sure this is still the case? I thought Vietnam had signed up to WIPO, and had "pretty standard" copyright laws now?

Not necessarily the best reference source, but here's something [onevietnam.org] which seems to support this, and also "Vietnamese Copyright Laws: Foreign Copyright Owners Beware!" (pdf) [gonzagajil.org] .

Re:Free speech under attack. (2)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 2 years ago | (#41524447)

Don't forget, the other thing you have to take into account is the level of enforcement. China, for instance, professes strong protections for IP. But everyone knows that's a total joke. So IP laws don't necessarily equate to actual IP enforcement (particularly in response to claims by foreign copyright holders).

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Neil_Brown (1568845) | about 2 years ago | (#41524897)

IP laws don't necessarily equate to actual IP enforcement

Fair point.

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about 2 years ago | (#41522581)

Host a Tor relay. As other nodes close to you request data posted by other nodes, you yourself become a host to make loading quicker in the future, speeding up the network. It becomes quite resilient.

Yes, this means you're potentially hosting something illegal, but you can't access it (the cache is encrypted) and it can't be traced to you (you are just another anonymous node between the host and the client).

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 2 years ago | (#41524493)

My big question here is: if you're hosting who-knows-what, how much disk space does this end up using on your machine, to be part of Tor?

Re:Free speech under attack. (2)

Rich0 (548339) | about 2 years ago | (#41524891)

Unless something has changed, this is not how Tor works. It is a closer description to how Freenet works.

A Tor relay does nothing more than pass along packets. Tor exit nodes allow the Tor network to connect to sites on the internet. Anybody can also run a Tor hidden service, which is just a webserver that talks to a Tor node. These do not require exit nodes to operate and should be more secure as a result.

However, I'd be concerned about running something like this on Tor. The fact is that there aren't all that many nodes on Tor. I would think that an adversary could contribute a large number of nodes to the network as a result and get a pretty good idea of what is going on. If they could manage to get a message to pass from a client they control through a set of relays they control to the site hosting the hidden service then they'd be able to identify where it is hosted. Tor also is a low-latency network making network analysis possible.

The sorts of things that make Tor more tolerable from a usability standpoint make it much less anonymous.

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Xest (935314) | about 2 years ago | (#41522915)

It's easy for the US to get stuff taken down in Russia, they just have to pay the right police a few thousand USD, that's peanuts.

Re:Free speech under attack. (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 2 years ago | (#41524473)

Seems like Iran should be a better place to host such sites (than it is; they're not very open with their internet connections). They'd be happy to thumb their noses at the US authorities and copyright holders.

if you call kiddy pron free speech again .... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521719)

if you call kiddy pron free speech again...ill hack htis place get your ip and take you offline forever you sick bastard , do you not get that the founders of tpb actually own PRQ and defended a kiddy pron site as free speech?
no really

same country that wants Assange just raided.... (5, Informative)

davydagger (2566757) | about 2 years ago | (#41519397)

Same Country that wants assange on funny smelling charges of "rape", just raided his server room.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519437)

Same Country that wants assange on funny smelling charges of "rape", just raided his server room.

Sorry but that is untrue.
PRQ hosted wikileaks back in 2010.

What did get removed was a number of torrentsites.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521069)

What did get removed was a number of torrentsites.

Ah, so the other fly in the US's ointment. Got it.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1, Insightful)

noh8rz9 (2716595) | about 2 years ago | (#41519505)

whatevs it would be horrible and i don't suggest it at all but if that happened to your wife/sister/daughter would it still be "funny smelling"? would you still want to nail the guy who is hiding in an embassy because he is "persecuted"?

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519957)

Give me a break... rape is only a horrendous crime because society makes it into one. It's just sex. It's natural. Everybody does it. There weren't claims of it being non-consensual even. If I were "raped" I'd be pissed, but that isn't what happened or was claimed to have happened. Rape is overblown by nut jobs and those convinced by nut jobs that some imaginary harm was done to them. He *MIGHT* at best have violated these women's trust in that he continued to have sex at a later point after they consented.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0, Flamebait)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41520341)

Great. Rape is only natural, and the charge of waiting until someone was asleep to F' them in ways they wouldn't let you do while awake isn't rape anyway. Gotcha.

Great crowd we've got here on Slashdot these days.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

fredprado (2569351) | about 2 years ago | (#41520721)

Rape is natural, albeit unacceptable and illegal by the rules of most of our modern societies. It was actually the most common form of reproduction for most of the History of humankind.

That said, even if all the allegations are true, and there is plenty of evidence pointing otherwise, what Assange is suspected of doing is as far from rape as I am from being a multibillionary.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521423)

In fact you are more likely to get pregnant when you are raped, than have consensual sex. Evolution supports rape, deal with it.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (2)

Cruciform (42896) | about 2 years ago | (#41521443)

I only read some of the reports in the initial couple of weeks of the sex charges being waved about, so someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the issue not about "rape" but rather that of informed consent? He was having sex with two different women and failed to inform them of either of it, which is apparently treated more seriously there than it would be in North America.
And that was why one of his accusers was reported to be saying they were pressuring her to make serious allegations against him when she had just made the initial complaint while she was still pissed off.
Being a dick and being a rapist are two completely separate issues.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522169)

Actually the main complaint was that he didn't want to wear a condom, and one of the women later (much later, god knows whys he saved it) produced a broken condom with no trace of genetic material on it, claiming he had intentionally broken it.

So basically, no, nothing like rape.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

Lucky_Norseman (682487) | about 2 years ago | (#41522349)

If he had worn it there should be traces of genetic material in it.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522201)

I don't remember the whole thing, but in the case of one of the chicks the charge is that he waited until she was asleep and fucked her without a condom, after she told him she'd only have sex if he used one. She didn't file charges until she learned of the other girl, they compared notes, and realized he'd basically been doing the same thing to both of them and it wasn't an isolated incident.
Keep in mind these are just allegations, I have no clue as to the truth of them. But fucking someone when they're asleep, in a fashion they have already objected to, would most likely be considered full-fledged rape in most countries.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522305)

He was having sex with two different women and failed to inform them of either of it, which is apparently treated more seriously there than it would be in North America.

That is usually not illegal in Sweden either, turns out that the Swedish law works a bit differently for Assange.
It is quite obvious that someone wants to see Assange burn, the thing that people argue about is if it is personal or political.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 years ago | (#41522311)

The charge is usually translated 'rape' because there is no precise analog in either UK or US law. It could be rendered as 'sex by deception.' There is something very suspicious going on though, because the case was closed very soon after the initial complaint - but then reopened shortly after the US cable leaks, for reasons the Swedish police claim are coincidence. It's enough of a coincidence that it seems quite plausible some political pressure may have been applied to find any excuse to arrest him, such as reopening an old case. If this is indeed the case then nothing can be certain, as everyone involved - the women, the police, the government - has a strong incentive towards deception.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (2)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41522445)

There's so much misinformation going around about the case from Assange fans. Here's the four actual charges from the European Arrest Warrant, as reported in the lower court ruling [judiciary.gov.uk] :

1. On 13th – 14th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange, by using violence, forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party’s arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

2. On 13th – 14th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.

3. On 18th August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

4. On 17th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state. It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s sexual integrity.

Charges 1-3 are concerning one woman, and charge 4 is concerning a different woman. Charge 1 is unlawful sexual coersion, 2 and 3 are molestation, and 4 is rape. Charge 4 is also the most clear-cut and has the most absurd defense by Assange's legal team. SW (the second woman) had already been freaking out in conversations with friends (who also testified under oath, and there's also texting records) over what Assange had done to her when she talked with AA (the first woman). This didn't come out of that conversation; all that came out of that conversation was the realization that what happened wasn't an isolated incident.

All four charges were judged by the three British courts hearing the case to all be crimes in Britain as well. F'ing a sleeping person to work around their refusal to consent to unprotected sex is not "being a dick". It's 100% unambiguously rape.

To take a line from a song (1)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#41522645)

What's the story? Morning glory?
Come on, the lawyers are expected to work a bit harder than that in all other extradition cases. Do they really think a healthy human being can sleep through such an incident?

Re:To take a line from a song (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524131)

Is your confusion over the difference between the words "consumate" and "complete"?

Those are the claims brought by the prosecutor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522691)

But are statements the women involved refused to sign.

The High Court was merely meeting over whether the EAW could be issued by a prosecutor rather than by (as it was intended) by the court judge.

NOT whether the case was sufficiently proven for extradition.

Re:Those are the claims brought by the prosecutor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522997)

Sign? You don't need to sign anything. Why do you people keep making things up?

Re:Those are the claims brought by the prosecutor (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524115)

Riiight. The women disagree with the charges. That's why they hired a lawyer to get the case reopened and who is since pushing forward the charges for them. Clearly they're ignorant of what their own attorney is doing, those ignorant little damsels!

The ruling of the high court does not match your description of it [tinyurl.com] . The nature of the crimes (my quote: "All four charges were judged by the three British courts hearing the case to all be crimes in Britain as well") is readdressed in "Issue 2". It represents nearly half the ruling so I'm amazed that you could have missed it.. unless, obviously, you never read it.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

Vintermann (400722) | about 2 years ago | (#41523349)

It was actually the most common form of reproduction for most of the History of humankind.

If you say something about prehistory that sounds tough-nosed, it seems no one reacts no matter how blatantly wrong it is. Did you even think this through before your wrote it?

Half asleep, You're completely lying. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522655)

And no dirty sex was undergone. After the fact she still tweets about how great the sex is and how great he is.

And BOTH putative victims deny it is rape.

It's really myscogynistic to tell women they can't tell when they've been raped, you know.

Re:Half asleep, You're completely lying. (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524239)

And this level of ignorance, ladies and gentlemen, it why getting your information from an echo chamber is a Bad Thing(TM). Its like a giant game of "telephone". Next up, we'll hear about how the victims are on the steps of the embassy pleading for Assange to be free.

Rather than, you know, the pesky reality that they're in hiding from Assange fans like you while their lawyer works to bring him to justice.

Wait, no, how "myscogynistic" of me to think that they know what their own lawyer is doing.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about 2 years ago | (#41523163)

no charges laid, get a clue.

the girls dont even admit to being raped, so get a clue.

But hey, how about the fact that during WW2, Sweden was Hitlers butfuck buddy and helped him out.

Cowards suck up to Hitler, and now the US.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

Rei (128717) | about 2 years ago | (#41524361)

No charges can be laid in absentia from Sweden, get a clue.

There is testimony is the leaked transcript that the second woman explicitly said she was raped, get a clue. To pick on example, after the event, she phoned her ex bf and told him she'd just been raped by Assange. Its in his testimony, read it yourself - Seth Bensen, last interview.

Why are we still in the "correcting basic misinformation about the case" phase? I'd think we'd be long past that by now.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (2)

Dunge (922521) | about 2 years ago | (#41520533)

What? You make people like me like idiots. I actually believe the rape charges were either falsified or pushed-on afterwards after they given their consent for a nice reward, but saying that rape in general is natural and overblown, imaginary harm? Give me a break.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522761)

I know you are a terrible troll, but there was no rape at all.

The rape was an absolutely retarded law that only exists in Sweden. ONLY.
They are using that stupid fact to push it as hard as possible.

Not only that, both of them stepped back after being asked to sign off on anything they said.
Yes. Totally raped.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (3, Informative)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41519811)

Same Country that wants assange on funny smelling charges of "rape", just raided his server room.

Obviously not, given that Wikileaks is still up, and never went down according to the story. What are down are a couple of torrent sites. The only known relation to Wikileaks or TPB is the fact that this host has served both. Why was it mentioned in the headline, you may ask? Clickbait, so that people who were following those causes would read it, even though it was almost 100% completely unrelated in every possible way.

This is part of the reason it is hard to take the whole "Assange is a persecuted martyr" seriously: his supporters never seem to know all the facts, they simply react. Knee-jerk reactions do not help, and make your entire position look bad. So, if you really want to help Assange and think he and his cause are worth helping, stop it, and read the damned articles. Or don't, since, you know, clickbait.

Oh and wait for some actual information to come out, since at this point no one knows anything at all, especially given the number of technical issues (unrelated, I might add) PRQ seems to be having/have had.

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 2 years ago | (#41521321)

TFA also mention about two thousand clients including ones with names such as "North America Man-Boy Love Association" and "Pedophile.se" so yeah.. Doubt TPB was the target, as if this would keep them down, I didn't thought they was in Sweden longer ATM but maybe they are to. Wikileaks would make somewhat more sense but I would had assumed they have already done some damage control regarding Assange if anything serious was stored for non-public view. But what do I know.

(They mention more sites to like "Chechen rebel site Kavkaz Central, and the defamation-accused Italian blog known as Perugia Shock" but I have no idea what that is and I assume not all other Slashdot readers do either.)

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 2 years ago | (#41521525)

This is part of the reason it is hard to take the whole "Assange is a persecuted martyr" seriously: his supporters never seem to know all the facts, they simply react. Knee-jerk reactions do not help, and make your entire position look bad.

Dude, you are smoking the cheap $3 Propaganda brand crack. Assange isn't a persecuted martyr because he's still breathing. He is being persecuted, however. The fact that he's a political figure simply can't be ignored or dismissed. You may agree or disagree with the charges. You may think he's an asshole, or the greatest thing since sliced bread. And we can argue the minutae of it until the heat death of the universe, but it's pointless. You and I are just random people on the internet. An embassy, a sovereign foreign government responsible for millions of lives, has come out and said "Something smells fishy about this." These aren't the kind of people to make rash decisions. You and I may not have all the facts. His supporters may or may not. But the embassy officials that put their country's pride and reputation on the line do have them. It would be reckless of them to have offered him asylum if they didn't feel there was firm ground to stand on. Remember -- The British government was inches away from wiping their arse with the Geneva conventions and storming the place, creating a massive international diplomatic incident... the kind of incident wars have been started over in years past.

The statement he isn't being persecuted is readily refuted by the simple observation that diplomats aren't irrational. It's a job requirement that they consider carefully the consequences of each action, and even in a small country there's going to be a vetting process to ensure that their interests are represented by someone who isn't nuts. Bottom line is he is being persecuted; You can agree or disagree with it, but you can't outright deny it. The evidence simply can't support your position.

All that said, let me step away from intellectual discourse now and say I think the man was a fucking moron. Who in their right mind moons the government with the largest standing military and biggest economy by GDP on the planet? I could give a flying fuck through a rolling doughnut about whatever charges they're bringing him up on, or the diplomatic incidents he's created -- the dumb bastard's gonna have his ass battered and deep fried at the end of this, one way or another. Maybe what he did was right, maybe it wasn't, but goddamnit man... if you're gonna shine the biggest badass in the room, at least be a man and take your lumps right then and there, not run off and hide under someone's skirt after.

*cough* We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame fest, already in progress...

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522181)

Actually, a foreign country has come out and said to themselves... "Man, this will put us on the front page for months! Millions of people all over are seeing this guy as some sort of persecuted political figure. Rape isn't THAT serious, so nobody really cares THAT much about whether he did it or not. It's a very safe PR bet to accept, as soon as we talk to the representatives of the countries involved and ask them please not to invade us for it."

Re:same country that wants Assange just raided.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520223)

Same Country that wants assange on funny smelling charges of "rape", just raided his server room.

I agree... I would call it abuse of power.

What is wrong with the (1)

santax (1541065) | about 2 years ago | (#41519419)

North American Marlin Brandon Look-Alikes to take such a risk be being hosted on the same servers as wikileaks. (I mean, I assume this isn't the other NAMBLA else I would like someone to explain to me why these servers weren't raided years ago.)

Re:What is wrong with the (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519443)

Maybe because file sharing isn't illegal?

North American Marlin Brandon L-A (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521273)

(I mean, I assume this isn't the other NAMBLA else I would like someone to explain to me why these servers weren't raided years ago.)

Here's an irony:

NAMBLA's too careful to host anything that's out-and-out illegal. But...

Let's say a pedophile group DID host kiddie p0rn on PRQ.

Is anyone going to sue over copyright violations?

Plaintiff: "Yes, your honor, I swear I am the photographer who took those pictures and I'm suing PERVERTSRUS hosted on PRQ and want an order to shut them down."
Judge: "Motion granted. Baliff, detain this person and call the prosecutor ASAP, then see that PRQ gets served."

Re:North American Marlin Brandon L-A (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522197)

Depends, a lot of pictures are legal in one country and illegal in another. Some countries find drawn pictures illegal for instance, others find even stories about it illegal. It would be fully possible for someone in a country where the pictures were fully legal to press such charges. Unlikely, of course, since most such material is not for profit, and so there's no money for expensive lawyers.

Meh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519433)

torrentz.eu is still up. All is right in the world.

Improvement (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519457)

Seems like they only confiscated 4 servers this time, and not everything which wasn't bolted to the floor. Quick! someone tell the cops they got intellectuals among them!

Re:Improvement (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about 2 years ago | (#41523211)

were they diskless servers that booted on PXE over 10ge fibre?

The 10ge NAS servers could very easily be burried under 20 feet of dirt and cased in concrete, (bitch to update), but very secure. As long as power+10ge+ventilation work.

Another irrelevant news story. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519469)

"Torrent site down. Lemming and conspiracy nuts panic."

Seriously /. you need to step up your game.

I don't understand (2, Funny)

Spy Handler (822350) | about 2 years ago | (#41519473)

how this happen in a freedom-loving liberal socialist paradise such as Sweden? I thought only evil USA does stuff like this.

Re:I don't understand (3, Informative)

fredprado (2569351) | about 2 years ago | (#41520775)

Sweden is quickly turning into USA:

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-remains-locked-up-without-charges-120930/ [torrentfreak.com]

Sweden is Hardly the US (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522215)

So what? It's legal in the Sweden and the US - until they press charges or release him. The clock's ticking, they have a limited amount of time of lawful detention.

The US has people unlawfully detained for years without pressing charges in for example Guantanamo. The US police is a sorry excuse, and their justice system is hardly just. No, Sweden is in no way comparable with that monstrosity called the US!

Re:Sweden is Hardly the US (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522887)

No, it's just a puppet state of the US instead.

People joked about the UK being America's lapdog, what they didn't realise is whilst all those jokes and comments were being made Sweden got even closer to the US than even the UK ever did, and the UK got close enough.

Sweden is a US puppet state now, it has no capability to act without it's US master.

Re:Sweden is Hardly the US (1)

fredprado (2569351) | about 2 years ago | (#41525077)

There are cases where people where detained for 3 months or more in Sweden without formal accusations. It is still better than the "undetermined time" they can pull out in US but it is going the same way. You shouldn't be able to detain people for this long without accusations in any civilized country. Even with formal accusations it is a monstrosity.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522633)

What country isn't a USA bitch? Seriously, what a waste of tax dollars to keep bitch slapping all these countries into doing some corporate policing.

Re:I don't understand (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | about 2 years ago | (#41523227)

Waste? The govt doesnt care, its not their money, taxes are infinite.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522135)

Sweden is already exporting all network traffic running through the country, which often includes other countries' internal traffic being routed through Sweden. Many have been completely bought up in Sweden. Follow the money trail.

Arrrrr, matey, forced to walk me own plank (1)

swschrad (312009) | about 2 years ago | (#41519513)

if the torrents were visible and easy to spy on, Our Governments In Action could just pick off the alleged violators.

results might be the same, but hey, the semantics are cleaner.

Re:Arrrrr, matey, forced to walk me own plank (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 years ago | (#41522335)

It's a matter of efficiency. Suing even one percent of the general pirate population would not only be very expensive, but earn the ire of government as courts are clogged up for years with the flood of cases. So there are only two counters through the legal process: Either target the most important (Site operators, releasers) and hope that without them the community will fall apart, or lobby for a faster, easier way to take action against the common torrent user ('three strikes' laws and similar) which bypasses all the slow and complicated business of a full civil suit and the need to present and argue compelling evidence in favor of a quick accuse-and-punish system that makes mass enforcement practical.

dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519589)

along with everything from Michael david crawford.

he provided a torrent of his *OWN WORK*.

so yeah, go figure.

Re:dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519763)

Fuck. For those that don't know, Crawford was arrested on trumped up charges last month and is currently being held without bail and without access to an attorney.

Re:dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520259)

nobody cares about the social injustice done against the super debugger.

now we'll never see warp life.

Re:dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520531)

And we'll never know the secret :( Rivulets of urine would stream forth from our loins if only we knew....

Re:dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520731)

Nor will anyone get to listen to geometric visions anymore...

A man's life work has just been obliterated because people want to torrent shitty hollywood movies.

NO doubt the timing of this and the 'national cyber security awareness month' and all these bogative 'cyber attacks' on banks & the whitehouse are not a coincidence.

The writings & music of Crawford are a direct threat to the MPAA.

Re:dulcineatech.com is gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521193)

dull griffith

Home Depot? (2)

Nethead (1563) | about 2 years ago | (#41519673)

..their downtime is due to a faulty PDU that happened to fail..

So, anyone got a spare powerstrip?

Re:Home Depot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522299)

Full day to replace or work around a faulty PDU - yeah right. If I were a betting man I'd wager they had at least some of their servers "secretly" back in PRQ and that's what got raided.

Thank you Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519675)

We've all been hard on this site, and sometimes for good reason. But I have to say, when I couldn't access thepiratebay, I immediately went to Slashdot who had a news report on it.

That is why I come here.

Wikileaks not offline (4, Informative)

poity (465672) | about 2 years ago | (#41519739)

http://wikileaks.org/ [wikileaks.org]
and even if the main site is taken down the mirrors will chug along.

Fuck Sweden (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520249)

They have embraced evil.

Swedish politicians are responsible for the death of Steig Larsson.

Fuck Sweden.

No route to TPB - BGP down (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520349)

TPB's route has been down for quite some time now. Their router is no longer advertising their entire IP block to the internet. Try it, traceroute to thepiratebay.se, it will stop at the edge of your network.

This is indicative of something *seriously* wrong. Normally, routers are supplied with multiply redundant power and sometimes even a live hot-spare.

I think the timing isn't a coincidence ant TPB is lying through their teeth to prevent their users from getting nervous. Can anyone prove me wrong?

Oink Oink (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520357)

Pirate Bay went down just in time to stop us from seeing the season's first new episode of "Homeland." The Swedish cops must be in bed with Claire Danes.

Re:Oink Oink (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521393)

Lucky buggers!

Re:Oink Oink (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41522307)

Pirate Bay went down just in time to stop us from seeing the season's first new episode of "Homeland."

Well, I did get my copy yesterday... via TPB actually, although I usually get the new HD releases from PublicHD.

Coincidence? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520509)

There are no coincidences.

rslog.net was affected (1)

Nyder (754090) | about 2 years ago | (#41520939)

Loved that site. Don't care for filelockers, but it had nice summaries of what was released. Now i guess i have to find another site like that.

I didn't realize wikileaks was taken down in that, figures.

Re:rslog.net was affected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521295)

You love a squatter website that redirects to who ever pays them money? Or did you mean rlslog.net?

Re:rslog.net was affected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41521469)

BTW I would recommend myrls.eu

Re:rslog.net was affected (1)

xenobyte (446878) | about 2 years ago | (#41522265)

I would recommend http://www.scnsrc.net/ [scnsrc.net] - Started and initially powered by disgruntled mods from rlslog.net. Same content, much less ads and better download links - like working torrent links (rlslog always uses their own torrent tracker/portal and the announced release almost always fails to be available).

looking for who sold nuclear tech to North Korea? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41523769)

Because that would be Donald Rumsfeld's company.

And Iran's reactor? US companies again.

Manufacturing enemies to justify statism is what it's about.

Wikileaks told the truth and that's the one thing they hate more than freedom.

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