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Glenn Beck Reports CIA Plot Between Embassy Killing and Something Awful

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the photoshop-phriday-replaced-by-state-secrets-saturday dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Here's one that even The Onion would reject as too blatantly ridiculous: American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck believes that Sean Smith aka Vile Rat, the EVE Online diplomat who was killed earlier this month during the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, was actually a CIA agent, relaying communications to his fellow undercover agents at Something Awful."

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413 comments

Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519533)

I don't believe anything that guy says. He is only after ratings, and by extension, money.

Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (5, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | about 2 years ago | (#41519629)

I don't believe anything that guy says. He is only after ratings, and by extension, money.

Are you sure? I suspect he's an underground agent working for The Onion.

Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (0)

the_fat_kid (1094399) | about 2 years ago | (#41519685)

Oh, how I cry out for a mod point.

Good one, Sir.

Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | about 2 years ago | (#41519961)

well, they could be using steganography in photoshop phriday!

Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (5, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41520177)

He is only after ratings...

Exactly what his bosses expect of him. How is that 'moronic'? You're not supposed to believe anything he says. That would be moronic. You're only expected to buy the products advertised on his show. It's TV, okay? He's there to entertain.

Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. (3, Informative)

reboot246 (623534) | about 2 years ago | (#41520309)

In fact he even says not to believe him until you do your own research. So much of what he does is pure comedy and sometimes it's hard for the slower ones amongst us to tell the difference.

Remember that sometimes he gets his point across by using hyperbole and comedy. You have to listen to several shows and learn his method before you judge him.

EVE Online diplomat (2, Funny)

frovingslosh (582462) | about 2 years ago | (#41520359)

Your eloquently supported position convinced me. After all, what Beck says is nearly as crazy as calling a person an "EVE Online diplomat". And to suggest that the CIA would do anything wrong is just insane.

yospos bitch (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519549)

decode that glenn beck.

On a podcast first (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519553)

This was hypothesized on the No Agenda Show podcast weeks ago.

Old. (-1, Flamebait)

ravenshrike (808508) | about 2 years ago | (#41519561)

And more importantly, it happened because Beck couldn't believe that the administration would be so fucking stupid as to not provide security in Benghazi after the attacks in June and the Brits had specifically pulled their consulate back to Tripoli because they thought the security situation, even with upgraded security, was too tenuous. So he cast around for any possible theory and his fevered mind came up with that.

Re:Old. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519753)

yes! clearly, barack obama is the real reason why glenn beck is such a fucking moron. it's so obvious! is there anything obama isn't responsible for?

Re:Old. (-1, Troll)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 2 years ago | (#41519879)

The Obama Administration being incompetent and Glenn Beck being a moron are not mutually exclusive things. Both are true statements.

Re:Old. (2)

rickb928 (945187) | about 2 years ago | (#41520131)

Why not ask the president? he will tell you whose fault it all is.

Re:Old. (1, Funny)

englishknnigits (1568303) | about 2 years ago | (#41519889)

Creating jobs?

Re:Old. (4, Informative)

hovelander (250785) | about 2 years ago | (#41520095)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/job-creation-campaign-promises.html?pagewanted=all [nytimes.com]

Good zinger, really! I chuckled.

But the Prez can do very little to create jobs, realistically. Obama may have an easier time creating the Unicorn we all seem to want. Add in a obstructionist, insane House, and the Euro wanting to implode the European Union?

Good zinger though, really...

Re:Old. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520161)

"But the Prez can do very little to create jobs, realistically." - What a bunch of B.S! Obama's policies are EXACTLY why job creation is nearly non-existent.

Re:Old. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519877)

Why would this be any surprise. Obama is complete zero. Activist from Chicago with experience in international affairs comparable only to Sarah Palin.

JAM

Re:Old. (4, Funny)

xevioso (598654) | about 2 years ago | (#41519915)

Ask Osama about his experience in international affairs.

Re:Old. (2)

artor3 (1344997) | about 2 years ago | (#41519929)

Monday morning quarterbacking sure is fun. And the best part is, you can never be wrong!

Re:Old. (1)

jhoegl (638955) | about 2 years ago | (#41520085)

Except that maybe a president cant be in charge of all of government, and leaves it up to those in charge of that area to handle things.
The biggest things presidents are liable for are what comes out of their mouths and what direction they direct their policies in.

Aha! It all makes sense! (4, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | about 2 years ago | (#41519571)

This is why Beck is so against socialized healthcare - because if we had it, he'd be institutionalized for being so completely fucking nuts.

Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover (2)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#41519573)

Would the Onion reject it? Or would they pay Glenn Beck to work deep undercover on the cutting edge of embedded satirical news radio?

Re:Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover (2)

timeOday (582209) | about 2 years ago | (#41519655)

I'm not sure I get the joke here. The job of the deceased was "foreign service information management officer." I'm trying to imagine how somebody in that position could not work with intelligence services?

However, I don't understand the supposed video game tie-in.

Re:Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519793)

I don't understand the supposed video game tie-in.

EVE Online's players tend to begin to treat it as a lifestyle and many of them develop close friendships and connections to other players and I would not be surprised in the least that someone involved that much in EVE would be chatting with gamer friends practically all the time. And VileRat was associated with GoonSwarm which was a group mainly associated with Something Awful, so its no surprise he'd be chatting with them.

Beck just has absolutely no clue about gamers. None.

Re:Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover (4, Informative)

egamma (572162) | about 2 years ago | (#41519979)

I'm not sure I get the joke here. The job of the deceased was "foreign service information management officer." I'm trying to imagine how somebody in that position could not work with intelligence services?

Perhaps he was the Exchange/Sharepoint/SAN administrator? "Foreign service" is pretty much any State Department employee stationed overseas. "Information Management Officer" sounds like he could be anything from the IT Admin to the filing clerk (if they still have paper files, that is).

Re:Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover (5, Informative)

DMUTPeregrine (612791) | about 2 years ago | (#41520199)

He was one of the IT admins.

He was an enemy in game, and a friend out of game. I miss talking shop with him.

Um, actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519575)

It's a pretty good cover.

Full Audio or it didn't happen... (-1, Flamebait)

CajunArson (465943) | about 2 years ago | (#41519581)

Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot. He might have been serious or he could totally have been joking and the quote in the article is useless for proving either one.

Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week, I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want, but instead rely on these things called "facts" before making a judgment.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519623)

I hear ya, but given the batshit insane reporting [youtube.com] he's done in the past I wouldn't put it past him.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (5, Insightful)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#41519637)

Ooh, is someone upset that the GOP and its representatives (official or otherwise) would be taken for being mad?

Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm"

Beck falls into chasm created by Poe's law.

which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot.

I see, people see Beck say wild shit and you accuse people here of suffering from Aspergers. Real classy one you are.

Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week

Considering the man can't tell a joke for shit and the other wild-ass garbage come out of the Republican Party these days, I'm not surprised at all that people missed it.

I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want

IT'S A CONSPIRACY! And Slashdot is in on it too! Careful, you're starting to sound like Beck as well.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Insightful)

funwithBSD (245349) | about 2 years ago | (#41520019)

But I do suffer from Asperger's, you insensitive clod!

This whole Benghazi thing is driving people nuts, just like 9/11.

They think: How does this shit happen without a devious plot by the CIA, Illuminati, or some other shadowy government operatives?

We are unable or unwilling to accept that both happened because of shear stupidity, hubris, and incompetence. (and not necessarily in that order)

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519641)

The Earth is 6,000 (excuse me, 6,016) years old, creation by a deity is a better explanation than evolution by natural selection, homosexuality is a choice and a sin, and women are meant to be subservient and deliver every time they conceive. When a party already believes laughable things like that, it’s hard to tell the sarcasm from the seriousness anymore.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (5, Informative)

FriendlyStatistician (2652203) | about 2 years ago | (#41519649)

Here is the official summary of the episode from Glenn Beck's website:
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/09/17/is-the-obama-administration-covering-up-scandalous-details-in-libya-attack/ [glennbeck.com]

Note particularly this part at the end:

So what does Glenn think really happened?

- The U.S. government is indeed looking for missiles to recover, so that no one finds out that we supplied them to terrorists
- They find a weapons cache of surface to air missles
- Same missiles we supplied during the revolution to take out aircraft.
- The CIA agents were forced to call in Stevens, our CIA weapons dealer.
- He flies in on short notice and takes an unmarked car to avoid suspicion to meet them
- The meeting goes south, he is taken to the closest safe house, which is why he ends up at the poorly secured consulate building.
- The message Sean Smith sent to the gaming community was really a message to the CIA telling them they needed help.

Audio from the relevant portion of the episode is posted on Soundcloud:
http://soundcloud.com/nivdes/glenn-beck-goonswarm-is [soundcloud.com]

"Goonswarm" is the name of the in-game organization affiliated with Something Awful.

TL;DR: It really did happen.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (5, Funny)

professionalfurryele (877225) | about 2 years ago | (#41519669)

"Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week"

No, no jokes are funny.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519737)

And presidents don't ship thousands of assult rifles to Mexican drug lords who use them to kill hundreds of Mexicans.
Oh wait... Never mind

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

publiclurker (952615) | about 2 years ago | (#41520141)

Well, the president didn't ship them. Of course bigoted cowards like you always want to scapegoat "one of them" don't you.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

Loosifur (954968) | about 2 years ago | (#41520283)

The President didn't, but the Justice Department did, and by the policy of "the buck stops here" the president is at some point responsible. Problem is that the first series of "gunwalking" operations started under Bush. So, AC isn't a "bigoted coward" unless he or she is of neither African or Caucasian descent. And I don't know where the cowardice comes in, unless you're referring to posting as AC, in which case I totally agree. Except for the general tone of your reply, which seems sort of, I don't know, bitter and stupid.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41519873)

I have to go with Occam's Razor here. Or maybe Occam's Meat Axe, since the differences really, really small. But I find it slightly more plausible that Mitt things that his joke is funny than that he hasn't seen Goldfinger.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (4, Informative)

tomhath (637240) | about 2 years ago | (#41519671)

Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm"

Good point. There's a talk show host named Rush who does the same thing; basically says ridiculous stuff to get people's attention. But the foaming at the mouth crowd takes them both seriously.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (-1, Flamebait)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 2 years ago | (#41519829)

But the foaming at the mouth crowd takes them both seriously.

Yes, they do. And then they jump up and down and rant and rave about how awful and hateful Rush is, and call Beck a clown (flamebait from the summary). Some of them then go as far as to call both of them official or unofficial spokesmen for "the party", and then attach all kinds of insulting stuff to "the party" as a result.

Can I suggest to the management at /. that if the summaries of articles are going to be such patent flamebait, that the moderation status of "flamebait" be changed from negative to positive? After all, flaming in the comments simply enhances the flame in the summary.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Insightful)

meglon (1001833) | about 2 years ago | (#41519897)

Pull your head out of your ideological ass. Beck is a fucking mental case, and anyone with two brain cells can see that. Because you're a rabid ideologue doesn't mean you get your own reality. Beck rarely uses sarcasm, he mostly uses paranoid delusions... and it takes another fucking moron to believe his crap and defend him as something other than a fucking idiot.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1, Insightful)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 2 years ago | (#41519947)

One can point out that name calling in a news summary is patent flamebait without being either a supporter of or an opponent to the person being insulted. Just as one could discuss whether it is appropriate to use inflammatory hehaviour in a summary without themselves becoming insulting and assuming straw men for their own amusement and importance.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1, Insightful)

CajunArson (465943) | about 2 years ago | (#41519681)

Assume that Glenn Beck was 100% dead serious in his assertion:

1. Of course he's nuts, but do you think it would be impossible for the CIA to use an online game like Eve to communicate in some circumstances? Considering the conspiracy theories that get modded +5 on this website whenever somebody accuses Bush of plotting 9/11 it is not very far-fetched. That's not to say that Eve online itself is a CIA front any more than the phone company is a CIA front, but it could still be used.

2. The Obama administration insisted publicly and repeatedly that this attack had absolutely nothing at all to do with terrorism, but it was just some stupid Internet video that magically turned the Libyans into Kill-Bots and we need to curtail the First Amendment in the name of "tolerance" RIGHT NOW!...

    Oh... until their own intelligence analysts and even the Libyan Government bascially embarrased them into admitting that an attack that used heavy weaponry and was obviously planned well in advance to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary was actually related to real terrorists and not just a spontaneous reaction to a stupid Youtube video.

Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519725)

There have been cases where large scale drug rings have used MMO's for communication in the past, its not that far fetched.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (2, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#41519747)

Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?

Good point. Then again most people here are still giving the White House a free pass on Fast and Furious along with Holder and Obama and the killing of 300+ Mexicans a US border agent, a mass murder(most recently discovered and linked at a party of teenagers) [dailycaller.com] , or they're blaming Bush still because that's the line the WH is still trying to feed on the narrative. Even though under Bush's program their guns were tracked. Under Obama and Holder they simply let the guns walk away.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519921)

Since when are most people here giving that a pass? Most people here tend to think that both sides are fucked up. A lot of people just decide that one is less fucked up and go with the less fucked up one (which goes both ways). But a lot of us just hold on to that they're both fucked up and we're headed down the shitter in the US either way. Personally, I'm the latter: to say that any side is more fucked up than the other is just bickering over which way you want the pineapple being shoved up your ass to be pointed.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Insightful)

meglon (1001833) | about 2 years ago | (#41519943)

Even though under Bush's program their guns were tracked. Under Obama and Holder they simply let the guns walk away.

Which brings us to the bigger point... people give the White House something of a pass because Obama isn't THE ONLY PERSON IN THE GOVERNMENT. He doesn't have a say in the minute details of everything... how ridiculous is it to even think that he would? But, the fascist conservatives hate Obama, so they'll lie like son of a bitches EVERY TIME something happens. They tracked the guns under Bush, they tracked the guns under Obama... fucking mental midget ideologues want to lie, however, and make asinine statements like you did.

Quit fucking lying, and you'll get a little respect.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (4, Informative)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#41520069)

Right, now it's time to grow up. So, remember Iran-contra? And how the democrats blamed Regan for everything. No? Okay. So remember the last 8 years and oh let's go with the housing crisis. That was obviously all Bush's fault right. Despite the fact that in 2002 and 2003, that the republicans tried to change the rules but were blocked by the democrats. Wait, he was the only person in the government. Now that your little temper tantrum is done, you'd better get your head out of the sand.

Under Obama they were not tracked, the documents received showed that. The real problem that comes back on this is that the democrats themselves are stonewalling and it has become a civil case because the DoJ itself is blocking further investigations into the issue. Now, if you're finished lying to yourself perhaps, just perhaps you learned something today.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1, Insightful)

funwithBSD (245349) | about 2 years ago | (#41520109)

Here is the problem you seem to not grasp:

Holder fucked up
Obama appointed Holder.
Holder fucks up, then Obama is responsible.

It has worked that way every time I fucked up as a manager, I got grilled by the higher ups why my people fucked up. I was responsible for them, and "gee I didn't know" was not fucking good enough.

Sure as fuck is not good enough for "The smartest man in the room".

Especially when he hires fucking Holder, who has admitted he fucking participated in the take-over of the Columbia University ROTC lounge in an effort to rename it after Malcolm X, and expect him to have any Fucking respect for the fucking rule of law.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201012/eric-holder-attorney-general-rahm-emanuel-white-house-elections?printable=true [gq.com]

P.S. I hope all the extra "fuckings" made it easier for you to follow the argument.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520485)

You used the fuckings as adjectives, which some consider ad hominem.
You could simply have inserted proper nouns thusly:
Eric fucking Holder.
Malcolm fucking X.

Now you get a smoother flow, and informative mod points.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Interesting)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41519899)

1. Of course he's nuts, but do you think it would be impossible for the CIA to use an online game like Eve to communicate in some circumstances?

Right, because there's nothing suspicious about an undercover operative who suddenly needs to contact headquarters firing up a video game. I guess that would be somebody infiltrating the Al Qada's notorious gold farming operation.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (4, Insightful)

CajunArson (465943) | about 2 years ago | (#41520171)

Uh.. as many people on Slashdot point out all the time, *LOTS* of people play online games. So what do you do if you are a spy and want to communicate without raising suspicion... do what *LOTS* of other people do and blend in.

James Bond is not a real spy, Joe Blow, the average guy who you pass on the street without even noticing is what a real spy looks like. If it is expected that a white guy in his 20s - 30s and who is kind of nerdy will play video games, then that is an excellent thing for an operative to do so that he blends in with every expected stereotype.

  I'm not saying that this particular guy was doing it, but for you to call it ridiculous is patently silly... especially given the credulity of people on this website to every single conspiracy theory that supports the pet-prejudices that are promoted around here.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520465)

Especially if his cover job is the IT guy, it would be quite an ordinary thing. IIRC he was on IRC at the time, not EvE.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (3, Insightful)

artor3 (1344997) | about 2 years ago | (#41519997)

If Obama had called it terrorism immediately, you'd be accusing him of scaremongering. No matter what he does, you'll call it the wrong thing. Why should anyone even care what you think any more? You're openly trying to turn the murder of innocent people into a politcal cudgel. Fuck you.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520061)

If Obama had called it terrorism immediately, you'd be accusing him of scaremongering. No matter what he does, you'll call it the wrong thing

No, he should wait until he knows before telling the world. He can say an investigation is ongoing.

Don't tell the world you know when actually you don't. It's simple.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519689)

If it's not easy to tell whether or not something's sarcasm, then you're doing it wrong. Or it could just be that glen beck depends on people misinterpreting "sarcasm" and believing really retarded stuff, without being willing to admit that they could misinterpret something.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519711)

Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot.

People also do this thing called "reading sites that they don't hate every person involved with", but I guess that would greatly reduce your ability to act butthurt.

I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want

OOOOH! Somebody can use big words! Gold star for YOU!

but instead rely on these things called "facts" before making a judgment.

Well, that would certainly be refreshing coming from an average Beck fan. Next time, you might even want to try this thing we call "READING THE SUMMARY OF THE EPISODE", which would have demonstrated that Beck actually believes this.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (5, Insightful)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#41519719)

the right side of politics sure has been "funny" a lot lately

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519805)

I dunno, giant vagina's on capital hill was pretty good on the left's part.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 2 years ago | (#41519867)

And the wrong side has been despondent.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (2)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41519807)

Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot.

Isn't everything he says sarcastic?

I have to admit that the right seems to have a very weird sense of humor these days (assuming Romney really was joking about those airplane windows) that seems to go past us feeble-minded libbies. On the other hand, right wing bloviators do tend to say stupid things in all seriousness and then claim they were being sarcastic when they're called on it. I guess that's why they say everything with a smirk, since this expression is so ambiguous with respect to seriousness.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (1)

i_ate_god (899684) | about 2 years ago | (#41519993)

you could have watched the video and then be able to tell whether he was being sarcastic or not.

The issue with the Romney quote, is that there is no real context since it's all text. But in this case, there is a video, all the context is there. Glenn Beck, is quite bizarre.

So that's your attempt at spin... (3, Insightful)

publiclurker (952615) | about 2 years ago | (#41520135)

Whenever someone calls you out on your BS claim that it's either humor or sarcasm. too bad the grownups aren't dense enough to believe you.

Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520255)

Mayby you are just as crazy as Beck.

Sinister Plot Success! (5, Insightful)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41519587)

People are talking about Glenn Beck :-P

as the song goes... (5, Insightful)

wierd_w (1375923) | about 2 years ago | (#41519613)

"Paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away."

Really. The fine line between clear batshit-crazy paranoia and justifiable concern grows thinner and thinner the deeper down the "terrorists!" Rabbit hole we go. The cited song refered to the last boogeyman: "Commies!", but it fits very well, if eerily, 50 years later with "Terrorists!"

People like Glen Beck just drink the koolaid. Rather than point and laugh about his over the top paranoia, take an honest look at how batshit we are acting in regard to "Terrorists!", where we are scared of plastic knives, exploding underwear, and flamable mouthwash to the point where we grope and tickle old women and 2 year old children as a daily occurance at our borders.

In times like these, agencies like the CIA get ever expanding license to do stupid, batshit crazy stuff to "catch them terrorists", and "make us feel safe!" As such, things like the silly stupid of this story might not actually be as silly stupid as they seem.

That is what is truly scary.

Re:as the song goes... (3, Interesting)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 2 years ago | (#41520043)

Drink the Koolaid? Glenn Beck IS Koolaid Man. Bashing through bricks walls. With poseur black-rimmed glasses.

Consider for a moment, that Fox News felt obliged to take him off of television. THAT is how whacked out he sounds. When even Fox won't touch you, you've gotta be fuckin' crazy.

I can't tell if he's actually crazy or if he's somehow the Republican answer to Stephen Colbert. Could he really believe the crazy shit he spouts? It doesn't even seem possible.

Re:as the song goes... (1)

wierd_w (1375923) | about 2 years ago | (#41520189)

Again, the really telling thing is that we even have enough plausibility in his whacked out schpeel to even CONTEMPLATE his screed as even remotely POSSIBLE.

That he is koolaid man, shouting "terrorists, Oh Yeah!" At airports, online game communities, and neighborhoods around the US is more the result of his being abnormally vulnerable to official government bullshit than the rest of us. This could simply be because he takes it more seriously. (If you are serious about being afraid of terrorists, you will find them everywhere. Hell, to the diehard koolaid drinkers, this post could be construed as being "aiding and abetting terrorists", because it casts 'initiatives" like the farce of the TSA as being silly-stupid reactions to boogeymen, allowing those "so very scary towel-headded terrorists" to "destroy the American(tm) way of life!(pat pend)!" Distribution on the paranoid crank curve has a median, where most people will fall, and extrema, where "nay sayers" like me live on one side of the curve, and where "batshit crazy mother fuckers" like Glenn Beck live.

To reduce the extremeness of people like Beck, we need to stop spraying koolaid. If it helps, just imagine Beck not as koolaid man, but as an empty pitcher that simply catches all the bullshit our media and government PR groups fling. What he gets full of is entirely dependant on what gets sprayed. People like Beck lack a well defined bullshit filter, because they dive headfirst into the rabbithole. You find the same problem with conspiracy nutters. Once you abandon rationality, you can't help but become a raving nutjob, and when SoP is to abandon reason at the door chasing shadows, the endgame is essentially assured.

I'm not trying to defend Beck-- just pointing out that he is a diagnostic sympthom of the problem, and NOT the cause.

The cause is waving around the spooky bedsheet with the word "scary terrorists!" Written on it, as the reason de etre for government doing power grabs.

You can't fix stupid, but you can contain it, by not spraying it with miracle grow.

Ad Hominem is called for in this case (4, Insightful)

Bruce Perens (3872) | about 2 years ago | (#41519625)

He's not a particularly reliable source. Move along, no news here.

Re:Ad Hominem is called for in this case (4, Informative)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 2 years ago | (#41519709)

Move along, no news here

Actually, I did learn something new today: Fanboys of Glenn Beck actually do exist [slashdot.org] !

Why is this here? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519627)

WTF is this doing on Slashdot? Yea, it's two days until the "debate" and the libs running this site need to post trash. But this is too obvious.

Beck is stating the obvious (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519659)

1. the guy had all of the skills that the CIA recruits;
2. Benghazi was where we provided Libyan groups with weapons that are now still floating around between there and the Sinai;
3. State Department, Diplomats, their security teams, etc are always cover for the CIA, the same way other governments use their diplomatic corps to get their intelligence officers in theater;

I'm glad to know the CIA has such good guys.

Summary is wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519665)

If you read the article, you'll find that Beck didn't say that "Vile Rat"'s message to SA was to CIA operatives who work at SA. He suggests that the comment was to CIA through the SA forum. I don't know if that's true, but it's not unheard of to send a coded message through a public forum.

Slashdot (5, Insightful)

thammoud (193905) | about 2 years ago | (#41519667)

New for Nerds not from Idiots. Stop this shit.

Re:Slashdot (5, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41519795)

Stop this shit.

What are you trying to hide? I'm not saying you are part of a global conspiracy, I'm just asking questions.

Re:Slashdot (1)

fm6 (162816) | about 2 years ago | (#41519909)

I'm am saying this is all a global conspiracy to make people tear all their hair out!

Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519703)

With this much derision in the story, there is obviously something to the claim....

That's how it works people...you don't come out swinging, unless you are trying to defend something.

Re:Interesting... (1)

Un pobre guey (593801) | about 2 years ago | (#41520497)

If it's true that his first choice for a phone call when facing potential imminent death was to a gaming forum, well, you have to at least scratch your head.

seriously? glenn beck? (5, Insightful)

nimbius (983462) | about 2 years ago | (#41519713)

when was the last time he was relevant? and with regard to his purported comment: thats his job. his job is to say, or do anything to anyone in order to garner enough attention to sell advertising slots. the formula is to find a hot-button item and exploit it. Whether he believes anything he says is irrellevant. He lost his job on Fox News because his ability to draw advertisers plummeted once americans realized the stalinist dystopia he insisted upon never arrived. Sean Hannity, Bill Oreilly, Glenn Beck, and Limbaugh are all designed and employed to keep people interacting with and talking about their respective shows. None have any expertise in anything of a technical nature, ever.

Has his own radio, tv, internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519983)

...yet can't sell ads? Right.

If you have ever listened to his show, they are sarcastic all the time. But then again, I can listen to political shows without the predetermined bias and make judgements on facts.

Public forums? (2)

mr100percent (57156) | about 2 years ago | (#41519741)

Why would the CIA, with a $50 billion budget, use public forums rather than some sort of secure satellite link or a VPN?

Re:Public forums? (1)

myowntrueself (607117) | about 2 years ago | (#41519959)

Why would the CIA, with a $50 billion budget, use public forums rather than some sort of secure satellite link or a VPN?

Because its more secure.

Seriously.

Hiding in plain sight. Secure satellite link, VPN or other encryption screams "I'm hiding something!!!"

Re:Public forums? (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 2 years ago | (#41520065)

In the Middle East, encryption streams just say "I'm an oil sheikh." There's a lot of encrypted coms in that region of the world already. What's one more?

Re:Public forums? (1)

Pyrus.mg (1152215) | about 2 years ago | (#41520101)

Who cares, this means I can blame every stupid mistake I made in Eve Online on the CIA. Call me a believer.

And some other kook thinks... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | about 2 years ago | (#41519759)

...that the Masons are behind it all. So what? Why are the rantings of a loon news for nerds? Or anyone else?

Re:And some other kook thinks... (1)

Penurious Penguin (2687307) | about 2 years ago | (#41519875)

...that the Masons are behind it all.

Quick, someone ask Woz! [slashdot.org]

Oh, Glenn... (3, Funny)

roesti (531884) | about 2 years ago | (#41519851)

Did the internet make you stupid?

"right-wing" (2)

poity (465672) | about 2 years ago | (#41519857)

Let's not pretend Beck's critics are left-wing. They may be predominantly Democrats (and other anti-TeaParty people) and disagree on how the power of the state should be applied, but they are as supportive as any of giving the state that power.

Re:"right-wing" (3, Insightful)

Un pobre guey (593801) | about 2 years ago | (#41520513)

The left wing is almost entirely absent from mainstream US politics. There's only Center Right, and Extreme Right. There is no Left in the discussion.

Sad (2)

thetoastman (747937) | about 2 years ago | (#41519863)

Really? Is this what Slashdot has become? Posting Glenn Beck rants?

You have the Something Awful bit wrong (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41519887)

Vilerat was posting those comments on an IRC channel for his gaming clan, not on SomethingAwful. Yes, Beck has it wrong too by calling it a "gaming website" when it's actually an IRC channel.

SomethingAwful is mentioned separately in the story. Vilerat was a mod there.

Media Matters (5, Insightful)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about 2 years ago | (#41520001)

I don't get why all these posts that belong on Media Matters or Crooks and Liars show up on Slashdot. Glenn Beck's an idiot and everybody's lying about the embassy attack in Libya. Yea, we get it. Take it somewhere else - this isn't "News for nerds" - it's clickbait. Take it somewhere else.

Glenn Beck IS something awful (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41520213)

His ratings? Who knows, but that's all that matters in this business. This little story can only help in that department.

I don't know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520221)

which is sadder. That Beck is making wild theories about the attack on our consulate or that all the other so called main stream media aren't asking questions about how and why 4 (5 with Camp Leatherneck) were murdered?

I live next to the Air Forces Special Operations Squadron and I can tell you there are a bunch of pissed off guys there. $60 billion for intelligence and a government that seems to want to pretend nothing wrong is making them wonder why they are risking their lives

Be fair.. (1)

marcushnk (90744) | about 2 years ago | (#41520295)

Its not Paranoia if they really _ARE_ after you...

One conclusion to draw (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520315)

I think this makes a very strong case for universal health care. In an ideal world, Glenn Beck would have access to the medical care he so obviously needs.

Broken clocks are right twice a day (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41520339)

So, if all you had was a smart phone, what'd be the easiest way to establish covert communication? Hide in plain sight, of course.

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