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Yahoo! To Start Selling Porn

timothy posted more than 13 years ago | from the drugs-are-next-year dept.

The Almighty Buck 264

A Crowd of Cowards submitted the news found in this LA Times article that Yahoo! will now sell pornographic videos though an online store. The new section ("Adult & Erotica") is not exactly flashing on the Yahoo! front page, but it's only a few clicks away. (And wants your valid credit card number as proof of age, btw.) Does this mean that all of Yahoo! will be blocked by the various censorware companies? Reader fezzgig points to coverage on CNN as well.

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So... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#298462)

Its OK to make money by selling advertisements to porno sites, its OK to make money from other advertisers getting views from people searching for porn, but its not OK to sell porn directly? I realize noone is saying this directly but that is what is implied by the tenor of the articles, that direct porn sales are "bad". If I was a Yahoo investor I'd be thrilled that they are finally getting into the only business thats ever shown a profit on the internet.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#298463)

who let the trolls out!

woop, woop woop woop

who let the trolls out!

This is NOT News (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#298466)

Um, this is not news at all. It's also wrong. Yahoo is not *starting* to sell porn. They've been selling porn for two years. It's just their Yahoo Stores program that resellers use that anyone can use to sell whatever they want. In this case it includes porn, and it has for two years - since they launched. What this is, is some stupid reporter didn't have time to check facts and thought he/she would write a story blowing nothing up into something.

Re:10 commandments (3)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#298467)

Cats Standard Version

1 THEN God spoke all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery, and set us up the bomb.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. What you say!!
4 Thou shalt not have any chance to survive. Maketh thou time.
5 Thou shalt not covet your neighbor's house; thou shalt not covet your neighbor's wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or all his base, which belong to us.

This is news? (2)

abischof (255) | more than 13 years ago | (#298468)

Uhh, so Yahoo is selling porn. Big deal. It's not like no one has thought of sellig porn online [dmoz.org] before. Sheesh.

Alex Bischoff
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Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

Caine (784) | more than 13 years ago | (#298470)

Not if you clear your cookies first :) *doh*

Who wants to pay for sex (2)

dattaway (3088) | more than 13 years ago | (#298475)

when its better free?

Re:I KNEW This was coming! (1)

jwhyche (6192) | more than 13 years ago | (#298478)

I think I might be speaking for more than one or two slashdotters here, I might be wrong, but I for one have no desire to see Cowboy Neal naked.

Re:ATTENTION MODS (1)

Si (9816) | more than 13 years ago | (#298479)

not very free then, is it.


CC = Proof of Age? (1)

8Complex (10701) | more than 13 years ago | (#298482)

I never did get this one. Sites asking for valid CC's as age verification. I thought it was mainly a scam up until this reputable company, Yahoo!, has started doing this.

In my state you are of age to view/purchase porn at 18. I had gotten credit card application since I was 15 and in high school. How in any way does having a valid credit card verify my age?

Re:The internet corrupts people (2)

Pope Slackman (13727) | more than 13 years ago | (#298487)

Yeah, the 'save the children' troll is pretty common now, making it easy to spot.

I think if I were doing the trolling, I'd go for the "God" angle, as religion generally
gets lots of bites and starts nice flame wars to boot.

So, just remember, kids, pr0n goes against the LORD.

C-X C-S

Yahoo Reports Itself... (3)

Jethro73 (14686) | more than 13 years ago | (#298488)

Right Here [yahoo.com] .

Now that's funny...

Jethro

Re:10 commandments (2)

Tim C (15259) | more than 13 years ago | (#298490)

committing rape is, by definition, committing adultry

Even if neither you nor the woman is married?

Cheers,

Tim

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

still cynical (17020) | more than 13 years ago | (#298492)

I'm curious, why aren't you concerned about the men who appear in pornography?

Re:The internet corrupts people (2)

Raphael (18701) | more than 13 years ago | (#298493)

Correction: the Internet makes it easier for people to view, buy and trade porn stuff without being seen by others. But this alone does not corrupt people.

(Some) people want to view and buy adult stuff (from erotica to hardcore porn, depending on who they are). The Internet makes it easier for them because they can do that confortably from home without being opressed by others. So what? The sex industry is one of the largest businesses in the USA. The Internet does not corrupt people, it only reveals the current level of hypocrisy.

Re:The internet corrupts people (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | more than 13 years ago | (#298494)

Oh, it's a troll. It's not blatant, though, it's brilliant. Look at his posting history. Only three posts come up, but they have generated almost 50 replies. That's some good trolling.

Bravo and Huzzah!

-B

Porn fills a psychological gap? (1)

rinkjustice (24156) | more than 13 years ago | (#298495)

I recall reading a quote from Marshall McLuhen where he predicted pornography would become more mainstream as the human race further disconnects with nature.
Now with an omnipresent internet entity like Yahoo pushing porn <understatement>along with thousands+ of other sites</understatement>, I think McLuhen was right on the money - as usual.

Just a brainfart.

Re:Who wants to pay for sex (1)

Mdog (25508) | more than 13 years ago | (#298496)

your mom has been giving that shit out like flyers for over 20 years now! she's the expert!

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

jocknerd (29758) | more than 13 years ago | (#298500)

What if its gay porn? "Not that theres anything wrong with that", quoting Jerry Seinfeld. How does gay porn run women through a blender? Just because you don't like sex, do keep others from it.

Re:10 commandments (2)

ajakk (29927) | more than 13 years ago | (#298501)

Actually, according to the law in most states, you can't rape your wife. The criminal definition of rape explicitly says that forcing your wife to have sex with you is not rape.

Re:CC = Proof of Age? (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 13 years ago | (#298505)

Well, one of the fields on your credit card application is "date of birth," presumably to help verify your credit record before they give you a credit card. They can keep this data on file, and a reputable business could presumably access this data.

However, it has been more common recently for pr0n sites to take the credit card, check whether it's a valid card, and then bill the user fraudulently. YMMV.

Image.. (1)

alexc (37361) | more than 13 years ago | (#298508)

Isn't this going to hurt Yahoo's Image?

Re:I KNEW This was coming! (4)

wiredog (43288) | more than 13 years ago | (#298512)

Please. Porn involving CowboyNeal? I just ate lunch!

Yahoo digs in claws (1)

caffeineboy (44704) | more than 13 years ago | (#298513)

In other news, yahoo will be featuring a pay-for-adoption service, allowing organ sales on their "yahoo auctions" site and spamming the shit out of all yahoo members with the "banned on e-bay" CD spam. They are also investigating plans to buy yahooka.com [yahooka.com] .

Yahoo execs were quoted as saying "we've found there is money in elicit markets, and hell if this dot com is going down without a fight..."

Re:This is a moral outrage! (3)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 13 years ago | (#298517)

> [Pr0n] runs women through a blender, converting their bodies into liquified youth.

Really? Hey, that's a new one, even for rotten.com! Wonder if there's a market for that? And if there is, can I get some from Yahoo?

> Every dollar Yahoo makes is now tainted with the blood and tears of exploited women.

You forgot their vaginal juices! And the lube! And what about the jizz of the exploited men who have to lay pipe all day long, or stand erect with their schlongs in some fluffer's mouth while the director sets up the cameras for the next scene, to make these movies? Blue balls hurt after the first couple of hours! Where's your compassion, woman?

> The Bible also tells us to love our neighbors as ourselves. Yahoo fails.

I tried that with Mrs. Jones across the street. She wasn't too happy with me. Umm, neither was Mr. Jones, for that matter. Guess I failed too!

(Though I admit it was a brilliant troll, Anne. Well done! ;-)

Re:Who wants to pay for sex (1)

_vapor (55645) | more than 13 years ago | (#298518)

I agree. So gimme some of your pr0n for free.

AOL/TW Bigotry (2)

pipeb0mb (60758) | more than 13 years ago | (#298521)

Analysts told the Times that the sale of porn may alienate companies that advertise with the company. Yahoo! is expected to report its second consecutive quarterly loss today.

Other major Internet companies, including America Online (AOL) and the Microsoft Network, have stayed away from pornography sales. (AOL Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.com.)

And so it begins. AOL/TW slowly seeds the battlefield of 'they are bad, we are good'.
It's fun to watch a monopoly grow from the bottom up...

Re:Lessons learned (1)

WinstonSmith (69165) | more than 13 years ago | (#298526)

Yahoo! already is profitable.

O! Heaven forefend! (2)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 13 years ago | (#298529)

Oh no! Not Pornography!

I would be concerned if Yahoo! started selling weapons or suicide instructions online, pr0n is everywhere, and it's not evil.

...Next...

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Re:The internet corrupts people (4)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 13 years ago | (#298530)

"After all, if they are not safe on Yahoo, where are they safe?"

pifft! Gwah ha ha ha!

Seriously though, if you are concerned about your children surfing pr0n online, supervise them. I mean, seriously, if you are really that concerned you will take time out of whatever schedule you have and maintin whatever level of modesty you deem is necisarry. While you are right that a lot more people should probably use internet filters, they are far from perfect and can sometimes be overly-restrictive (censoring news, etc...).

My own viewpoint on the whole "internet = = porn" thing is fairly Liberal, but I do respect your viewpoint and I think it is valid for those who care. I don't think restriction should be forced upon those who don't want it though.

BTW: I know your post was a troll (even if you don't think it was) but c'mon isn't "Every site, even supposedly respectable mainstream sites such as Yahoo, are peddling filth. " a little too broad of a generalization?

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Credit Card Verification? (2)

Puk (80503) | more than 13 years ago | (#298535)

I had my first credit card when I was 17 or so. Porn on!

-Puk

p.s. No, it's not that hard to get pr0n when you're underage, even without Yahoo.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (2)

Puk (80503) | more than 13 years ago | (#298536)

I'd thought that Yahoo learned their lesson with all those French and German lawsuits about Nazi memorabilia. Now they're selling pornography?

<FLAME>
I thought they'd learned their lesson with that whole freedom thing! Now they're allowing some other thing on the net which doesn't fit in with my own personal morals and political agenda? How dare anyone not agree with me and choose to live their life in some other fashion?!
</FLAME>

This type of "what works in business and what people want is wrong, and freedom is good as long as it doesn't allow people to follow principles other than my own" attitue genuinely scares me.

-Puk

Do you Yahooooooooooooooooooooooo? (1)

phunhippy (86447) | more than 13 years ago | (#298537)


Hmmm guess this brings new meaning to....

Do you Yahoooo hooo hoo ooo ooo awwwwww hoooo?

hehe

Whole internet is now blocked? (1)

phunhippy (86447) | more than 13 years ago | (#298538)

hmmm a dilema.... if censorware software blocks yahoo.. would they then have to block all the sites reachable through a yahoo link? ie.. great portion of all websites.... hehe that would be funnny...

I KNEW This was coming! (3)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 13 years ago | (#298539)

Remember a few months ago when I suggested that pr0n, being by far the most profitable industry on the net, should be used to subsidize every legitimate web site? Apparently someone at Yahoo was reading /. that day and thought "Damn! That makes a lot of sense." I probably won't get credit though. Bastards.

So when will Slashdot start selling pr0n? I look forward to the day when I can get my pictures of CmdrTaco and Cowboy Neal doing pr0n0graphic stuff with dallas cowboy cheerleaders and/or live goats...

Hey, it works for Kozmo.com (2)

carlhirsch (87880) | more than 13 years ago | (#298540)

I'm pretty sure that smut accounts for a huge percentage of Kozmo.com's revenue.

But then, their target market is composed almost entirely of stoners.

-carl

Re:This is a moral outrage! (5)

SamBeckett (96685) | more than 13 years ago | (#298546)

do u have any nudes

Re:The internet corrupts people (4)

ASaidi (105261) | more than 13 years ago | (#298556)

How about you worry about regulating your children and the rest will worry about ours. It is not any government's job to teach your children what is right or wrong but your own. If you can't find time to do this then perhaps you need to reprioritize your life.

The Internet is a place for expression of ideas. Some of those ideas you might not care for. Likewise someone else might not care for your ideas. Who says your ideas are correct and everyone else's are wrong.

If "innocent websearches" are turning up mountians of porn then perhaps you need to use a good search engine(http://www.google.com [google.com] ) or stop using, "britteny spears pictures" as a search sting.

Your children have not been "safe" on Yahoo since the begining. It always has had a search engine and a listing of adult sites.

Do you want to say that Blockbuster video is the most famous place to rent videos. They rent what some people would call softcore pornography. Should the government regulate them too?

Re:This is a moral outrage! (2)

n3rd (111397) | more than 13 years ago | (#298566)

If we let Yahoo sell pornography like this, then it's a slippery slope down to having them sell videos of executions.

Isn't this the same argument the War on Drugs uses?

This calls for a boycott.

Are you then prepared to boycott any each and every other business and orginization that sells pornography? Where is the line drawn? Do movies with sex scenes count as "pornography" and should be banned? Take Eyes Wide Shut for example.

The free market cannot thrive unless we police it for criminal activity such as this..

Morality and the law are two completely and totally separate subjects. The current law states pronography is legal, thus it is not criminal activity. Also, if you would look at the numbers the free market DOES thrive because of things such as this. Right, wrong on indifferent, these are the facts.

Ejaculations (3)

andy@petdance.com (114827) | more than 13 years ago | (#298572)

I guess we know why the REALLY holler "Yahoo!" now...
--

gimmie a break (1)

-ryan (115102) | more than 13 years ago | (#298573)

it's just Adult DVD's and they've been selling them for a couple of years now.

Re:The internet corrupts people (4)

e-Motion (126926) | more than 13 years ago | (#298581)

If your kids are taking your credit card and buying porn online in the middle of the night, should you blame the internet?

Dumb mistake.. (2)

Ogerman (136333) | more than 13 years ago | (#298589)

Well, that's the last time I ever use Yahoo. No matter.. Google is far superior anyways. What a dumb decision on their part, though. Nothing like totally shattering a company's public image just to make a few bucks.. I wonder how many users in the 'moral minority' they just lost today?

Re:Dumb mistake.. (1)

kusma (139069) | more than 13 years ago | (#298591)

Did you know Yahoo (AND Google) have always been making money off sex? Try typing "sex" or "porn" in google or yahoo and you see they've got paid banner ads or even sponsored links from the porn business. How can a user in the moral minority continue to use Google? Also, Google sells itself to the porn company Yahoo. How big is your "morally clean" internet, actually?

Re:Yahoo Reports Itself... (1)

ekrout (139379) | more than 13 years ago | (#298593)

First off, Yahoo has been selling adult merchandise for over two years (or so they claim). Also, Yahoo doesn't have a squadron of reporters that get their news for them; they simply pay someone else to publish articles mostly written by the Associated Press.

So, based on my first point, this news isn't as incredible as you're making it out to be. Therefore, your attempt at humor is quite insufficient and should not have attention drawn to it through the use of moderation.

Just another way to make money (1)

HerrGlock (141750) | more than 13 years ago | (#298595)

Yeah, so? It's something that sells and they are a commercial firm. The problem with this is...??

DanH
Cav Pilot's Reference Page [cavalrypilot.com]

Re:This is a moral outrage! (4)

ruin (141833) | more than 13 years ago | (#298596)

I have been trolled. I have lost. On the other hand, it's just such a fantastic troll, that I can't be rid of this compulsion to reply. So, a few quick points:

There is no such thing as consent in pornography, because every person involved is there because of dire economic need.

Untrue. I would imagine that most people in the sex industry could make enough money in other pursuits to subsist, sex is simply much more profitable. There is also the issue of people making pornography for pleasure and not for profit. Suppose I were to write a pornographic short story, would I be doing it because of dire economic need? Would this be exploitation? What about a couple who videotapes themselves having sex? Is this exploitation? What if they do it to sell the tapes at a profit -- is this different than if they do it for fun?

In short, it's a complex issue, and one that's not improved by the sorts of in-good-faith fearmongering that goes along the same lines as this troll.

But we tolerate women's public humiliation and public rape, because men universally crave and devour pornography.

Your language is strongly gendered and is every bit as much a part of the cultural mandates that oppress women as porn. Why are you equating nakedness and/or sex with humiliation? Why do you label only men as craving pornography?

Lastly, some facts that deserve to be stated a few times to keep the truth-to-nonsense ratio up.

--None of ten commandments mention rape. (Another reason why they suck.)

--"Slippery slope" is a logical fallacy.

--Generally speaking, people don't have souls.


--

News? (1)

zorba1 (149815) | more than 13 years ago | (#298600)

From the Yahoo! [yahoo.com] article:
``under stringent control, adult products have been available through Yahoo! Shopping for more than two years.''

Seems that they're more interested in covering their rears in terms of non-adult access, as well as getting some free advertising via "reports" on news sites.

This is nothing new (1)

John Paul Jones (151355) | more than 13 years ago | (#298602)

Yahoo has been selling this type of commodity for quite awhile, albeit indirectly. An example. [wickedtemptations.com]

This is a Yahoo! Store.

Oh yeah, and who cares anyway?

-JPJ

Re:This is news? (2)

clare-ents (153285) | more than 13 years ago | (#298603)

But now when you buy porn, your credit card statement says

Yahoo.com $20.00

instead of the incriminating

hotteensluts.com $20.00

Your nosy other half no longer knows your buying porn unless she discovers the stash under the desk at the office.

Re:The internet corrupts people (2)

john_many_jars (157772) | more than 13 years ago | (#298605)

Pray tell, if the internet "is nothing but a corrupter of public morals" (assuming I got your antecedents correct), why are you using a browser at all? Do you want to be corrupted? Or are you so enlightened as to be above corruption?

Do you feel that your average person is incapable of filtering the amount of smut they can tolerate and blindly click away at what search engines give them?

Are you concerned that Cinemax has been doing the same thing for around 20 years.. ie distributing smut to your house without checking ages of the viewers?

Are you concerned that most any teenager can get in to see a rated 'R' flick? Need I remind you of the nudity and sex in Titanic, the so called teen-girl Star Wars?

If a child sees something they shouldn't, whose fault is it--the purveyors or the people who let the child run free on the internet (read parents)?

Whenver I read/hear/consume opinions like this, I am wondering if the holder of the opinion thinks that their enlightened state is not only superior but the only one of its kind as to point out that this is horrible. Face it, you are in the minority--otherwise internet filth would not be a multi-billion dollar industry.

<sarcasm>
Hey, I got a good idea, let's regulate marijuana, ecstasy, LSD, cocaine, heroin, cigarettes, alcohol, murder, theft, prostitution, teenage sex, arson, guns, people-trafficking, nuclear bombs, and fanatic cults hell-bent on destroying the world! That'll stop them, won't it? I mean regulation will fix it right? That ought to stop all the troubles right?

I trust the regulators. They know what to do. They are stopping it right? Tell me I will wake up in a world that all these nasty things are regulated and there will be peace and prosperity.
</sarcasm>

Or did I wake up this morning in that world? Don't we already regulate these things? Has it brought a stop to the corruption of morals? Are there still drive-by shoootings with guns illegal to possess? Do high-schoolers sit in vans and pull tubes during lunch? What about the Montana Freemen and Bin-Laden guy, we got him right? Are there still crack-whores walking the urban streets? What about the human slave trade? Isn't all this regulated?

BOYCOTT YAHOO! (1)

tjpalmer (158269) | more than 13 years ago | (#298606)

I personally have heard enough bad things about the filtering companies to not want to use, them, but I propose that everyone with decency BOYCOTT YAHOO! DIRECTLY. Skip the twisted filtering companies.

Here's my deal. Yahoo! is a classic and a mainstay of the Internet, and porn is filthy and degrading. Sure, lots of people sell porn, but if Yahoo! gets a profit off of this nonsense, then that will send a clear message to anyone. This stuff is destructive to personal integrity and demeans human worth. And it should be pretty clear how much this does against true rights for women and so on. It also hurts family responsibility issues and damages children as a result, who will be the adults of tomorrow.

So I say we make a big uproar and boycott them. Send them lots of complaints. Make it cost them. I know many on Slashdot will dislike these comments, but there are people here too will agree with me.

- Tom

Re:O! Heaven forefend! (1)

peccary (161168) | more than 13 years ago | (#298608)

Suicide instructions? Instructions?

gee, they must use small words, really big print and lots of pictures.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 13 years ago | (#298609)

wow ... what a bitch

Re:10 commandments (1)

jargoone (166102) | more than 13 years ago | (#298610)

nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass

Must... not... link to... goatse.cx...

RTFA (1)

jargoone (166102) | more than 13 years ago | (#298611)

From the article:

The company has expanded efforts to block underage shoppers, requiring buyers to register an e-mail address and enter a credit card number. The card is checked to verify shoppers' ages.

They obviously plan to use some means, beyond possesion of a valid CC number, to verify age.

Re:The internet corrupts people (1)

OhPlz (168413) | more than 13 years ago | (#298612)

What total nonsense. The only people surfing for porn on the internet are those that CAN'T GET IT IN REAL LIFE. Therefore kids looking at porn on the Internet should have no chance at a promiscuous lifestyle.

If parents don't want kids looking at porno don't put a computer in their room, put it in a "family spot". Same logic as not having cable TV in their room if you don't want them watching violence. There are far more mediums for porn than just the Internet.

Keep your f$cking morals away from me, I'm offended by them. We need to find a way to regulate your posts.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (2)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 13 years ago | (#298617)

Hook, line, and sinker...

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can only have one of two things:
1.) A free country, and free economy where you, as a person, get to choose what you and your family does.
2.) You live in a dictatorship where the person(s) in control choose what is good for you.

It appears that you prefer the latter. Move to Cuba. I just don't want to hear you whine about it when it isn't free enough.
Point being, if you don't like it, don't watch it. But don't try and get everyone on /. to boycott something for your own little revolution.

Re:The internet corrupts people (3)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 13 years ago | (#298618)

Unfortunately the politically correct liberal mafia running our country won't allow this to be said, but the internet corrupts people.

It doesn't have anything to do with any 'liberal mafia', its the Illuminati that controls everything. Just mentioning this to you puts my life in danger.

Filtered internet access seems like the only option.

This is exactly what the illuminati wants you to think. It'll just grant them more power over the internet. Censorship, the DMCA, all of it... owned by the illuminati to dominate control.

FNORD!!!!

Re:10 commandments (1)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 13 years ago | (#298620)

first, you've obviously been trolled. Second, committing rape is, by definition, committing adultry (unless your wife doesnt put out, but that's a different story). It also involved 'coveting your neighbor's wife', unless you rape people you dont covet, in which case you probably have some serious issues.

Re:10 commandments (1)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 13 years ago | (#298621)

yes... any sex outside of marriage is biblical adultry..

Re:This is a moral outrage! (2)

Fat Rat Bastard (170520) | more than 13 years ago | (#298623)

Funny. I've seen pornographic videos, looked at a hustler or two, taken a gander at alt.binaries.erotica.*. I haven't killed/raped/maimed anyone. Hmm... maybe the major "fuel" for Bundy's bloodlust was because HE WAS A NUT CASE.

Nah, can't be. Personal responsibility is so "yesterday." Proof by anecdote, so it must be right. Let's just ignore that every study, from those under Nixon to those under Regan have shown NO connection between porn and violence.

If you don't have anything nice to say, say it often.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

dissy (172727) | more than 13 years ago | (#298625)

Just because you arnt bright enough to not look at the things you dont want to see, doesnt mean the rest of us are just as dim.

If you dont want to see porn on yahoo, dont go to yahoo's porn section
If you dont want to see pictures in your newspaper, dont read it.

Is this really that hard of a concept?

It has to be said... (2)

jonfromspace (179394) | more than 13 years ago | (#298626)

YAHOOO!!!!!

I digress...

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

LNO (180595) | more than 13 years ago | (#298627)

This calls for a boycott. This calls for a public outcry. There is no excuse for sitting by the sidelines and watching the world go by. Everyone who does not actively oppose this move is complicit in human suffering.

There's a lot of shit in the world. People can only actively oppose so much. It'd be nice if I were able to dedicate myself to righting all the wrongs I see in the world, but after years of activism, I've learned that I've got to pick my battles.

Maybe I'm just a little jaded, but I don't see how Yahoo offering pornography rather than just linking to the vendors themselves can possibly compare against religious, racial, and sexual intolerance, genocides, any pretty much anything else that's ugly and wrong in this world.

So what's more morally repugnant? Yahoo finding a new revenue stream, or the Taliban teaching that women are inferior to men?

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that the accusation of complicity in human suffering is laughable when there are others who are working for more important goals.

Re:The internet corrupts people (1)

FyreGryffon (182789) | more than 13 years ago | (#298631)

We need more control to stop the corruption of our children.

This was a pretty good troll up until this point. You had to do it, though. You couldn't resist the telltale "we must protect the chiiiiiiildren" mantra.

Score: 5 for initial impression, -10 for followthrough.
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Re:This is news? (2)

ichimunki (194887) | more than 13 years ago | (#298634)

Most porn companies bill through holding companies with halfway respectable sounding names, both offline and on. I have never been sure if this was because this helped them cook their books or because they honestly cared about how it looked on card statements. What I will say is that only the most brain-dead SO at this point (given all the free advertising, er, coverage Yahoo! has been getting on this) would NOT think of a $20 charge from Yahoo! as probably a smut purchase. I mean, other than dirty movies, I can't think of anything else they actually sell.

Porn is Big Business (5)

Mittermeyer (195358) | more than 13 years ago | (#298636)

Let's face it, porn has been THE consistent seller on the internet. Content creation is cheap, no warehousing or shipping costs, and the addicts will paypaypay to get their itch scratched. Why shouldn't Yahoo go for it? I suspect that Yahoo will clearly mark out it's adult directory structure for the censorware makers, so this will be a non-issue. On the other hand AOL may be able to make hay by claiming the moral/family 'high ground' and truly become the WalMart of the Internet.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (2)

drewmat (198981) | more than 13 years ago | (#298639)

I agree, except in that "thou shalt not rape!" is not one of the ten commandments. It's wrong just the same. Ted Bundy said in an interview before he was executed that the major fuel for his blood lust was pr0n. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing pr0n totally banned.

Fits their strategy. (3)

shumacher (199043) | more than 13 years ago | (#298640)

Well, it fits in with their strategy of moving away from advertising as their sole source of revenue. News doesn't seem to sell well, but auctions do, as does adult content. I can't see them being filtered as a domain by all the filtering services. Their business is precarious enough now, they can't go about filtering top 10 mainstream sites without a backlash.

This is a Paradigm . . . (2)

jgaynor (205453) | more than 13 years ago | (#298645)

Of the fact dotcoms are realizing that they cannot survive by banners alone. Porn is more permanent than death OR taxes, and I believe we'll see similar sites taking increasingly desperate measures to become profitable (although probably not porn).

Yahoo local...? (1)

Llah (205644) | more than 13 years ago | (#298646)

They have Yahoo! for individual cities... I could care less about that...

What I'm waiting for is Yahoo! for individual FETISHES!

YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!

The internet corrupts people (1)

Dan Hayes (212400) | more than 13 years ago | (#298651)

Unfortunately the politically correct liberal mafia running our country won't allow this to be said, but the internet corrupts people. Every site, even supposedly respectable mainstream sites such as Yahoo, are peddling filth.

Innocent websearches will turn up mountains of hardcore pornography, often involving underage children. Sites seem only exist to peddle pornography. The only sites that make any money are those relying on filth.

I think it's time people were told. Parents should know that their children are not 'doing their homework' when they are locked up in their rooms late at night. Almost invariably, they are gazing at pornographic material.

This is corrupting our young, by making them sexualized at a younger age. It encourages promiscuity and teenage sex. It is nothing but a corrupter of public morals.

While I do not have any objection to the internet being used, I think that fact that every site on the net, even the most famous one, is filled with pornography should mean that we should regulate more carefully the way the net is used. We need more control to stop the corruption of our children. Filtered internet access seems like the only option. After all, if they are not safe on Yahoo, where are they safe?

Yahoo changes name to OhYeahBabyYeah! (5)

tenzig_112 (213387) | more than 13 years ago | (#298656)

After closing it's New England affiliate site, Yahey.com, [ridiculopathy.com] Yahoo is feeling pressure from investors to improve its bottom line.

Hey, wait. "Bottom line" sounds like a line out of a porno. He he he.

[That's right. You want some of that?]

Yahoo co-founder Jerry "Do I make you randy?" Yang is very excited about Yahoo's new sexing-up process. "I want us to be the Napster of porn," he allegedly said. "We're the Yahoo you don't take home to mother."

Co-founder David "Big Stick" Filo could not be reached for comment. His assistant said that he was in the storage room shooting a training film of some kind.

The new on-hold music is pretty cool, though. Lots of bass.

Bucka-bucka-bow! [ridiculopathy.com]

realzie (1)

vinnythenose (214595) | more than 13 years ago | (#298657)

The online world is starting to realize, that to make money on the internet, you must be in the porn industry. Soon everyone will do it, Micro-Porn, IBM-porn, SunPorn, X-XX Consortium :)

(I know I know, many of these already make money, and the X Consirtium don't work for money, I'm just having fun here)

They want your credit card number? (1)

AFCArchvile (221494) | more than 13 years ago | (#298660)

CHA-CHING!!

Gee, THIS policy won't go unabused...

porn vs. violence (2)

juerg (228182) | more than 13 years ago | (#298662)

It is interesting how hysterical Americans get as soon as the word porn appears somewhere. Violence on the other hand seems to be perfectly o.k. For example, Yahoo is selling "From Dusk Till Dawn", no problem it seems.

Naked skin (which is part of everybody's live) vs. slaughtering humans...

Very interesting this understanding of moral.

Yahoo won't be blocked by censorware (1)

tmark (230091) | more than 13 years ago | (#298663)

Does this mean that all of Yahoo! will be blocked by the various censorware companies?

No way this would ever happen.

1. as others pointed out, there would be a huge backlash if a well-read and generally 'respectable' portal were suddenly off-limits. That censorware company would be out of business in mere days.

2. If they're not able to do so now (which would startle me), it should be easy to allow the censorware to block only subdomains or specific hosts.

3. If the problem became serious, and subdomain or host-based blocking were somehow impossible (again not likely) Yahoo could just create a domain like yahoo-adult.com

4. Selling porn is a completely different issue than purveying the porn itself on the web. You could allow people to buy it and browse small thumbnails of the covers without having to show overly offensive pictures. Most of the coverart is less revealing than the Sports Illustrated swimsuit callendar banner ads that i keep getting.

My ears are getting tired of all the alarms that keep sounding...

Sex IS the only internet business plan (1)

Bug2000 (235500) | more than 13 years ago | (#298665)

That sounds like it's the only way for them to make money after all, and increase their shares value. Look at the chart [yahoo.com] , it has already gained 15% till friday! :))

Of course he isn't (2)

Anne Marie (239347) | more than 13 years ago | (#298669)

I don't think Heffner is in dire economic need.

Of course he isn't, because he's grown fat off the suffering of the women he exploits.

You must think you're smart because you caught me in a semantic slip. I wasn't speaking of everyone involved in pornography's financing and production. I was talking about the people sweating under the camera's gaze, penetrating and palpitating each other's bodies until they are extinguished by the shame and the horror of it.

Go read up on the statistics for suicides by former porn "actresses" (really "slaves"). They're illuminating. It's a testament to women's fortitude that more don't slit their wrists or gas themselves because of what men put them through.

This is a moral outrage! (5)

Anne Marie (239347) | more than 13 years ago | (#298670)

I'd thought that Yahoo learned their lesson with all those French and German lawsuits about Nazi memorabilia. Now they're selling pornography?

Pornography is indistinguishable from rape. It runs women through a blender, converting their bodies into liquified youth. There is no such thing as consent in pornography, because every person involved is there because of dire economic need. But we tolerate women's public humiliation and public rape, because men universally crave and devour pornography.

How can Yahoo justify profiting from such exploitation? I understand Yahoo's stock prices are slipping and they're desperate to pump some new revenue sources, but pornography is unconscienable. Every dollar Yahoo makes is now tainted with the blood and tears of exploited women.

This calls for a boycott. This calls for a public outcry. There is no excuse for sitting by the sidelines and watching the world go by. Everyone who does not actively oppose this move is complicit in human suffering.

The Ten Commandments tell us, "Thou shalt not rape!" The Bible also tells us to love our neighbors as ourselves. Yahoo fails.

If we let Yahoo sell pornography like this, then it's a slippery slope down to having them sell videos of executions. If you thought it was bad that Dale Earnhardt's autopsy photos were almost published, imagine if you'd had to see photos of electricuted criminals in your Sunday newspaper.

The need to exploit others for profit is a pervasive one in our society, but it's not one that we can't arrest as we arrest other criminal passions. The free market cannot thrive unless we police it for criminal activity such as this, just as it cannot thrive unless we police the market square for pickpockets.

Pornography kills women's souls. Pornography burns men's souls. There is no victor here, except for the ugly head of capitalism. Yahoo must not be allowed to perpetuate this abomination against humanity.

Re:The internet corrupts people (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 13 years ago | (#298677)

I kind of agree with you, but, after awhile, the sheer absence of value in all nonsense, to include pornographic material, gambling drugs, etc., becomes its own answer, don't you think?

Arguments for censorship become moot if we educate the demand away. Attempts at censorship, ironically, fuel demand due to the perversity of the human heart.

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 13 years ago | (#298678)

Anne,

Our society is a moral outrage. I'm unclear, given the desire to be 'in the world, but not of it', just how you balance things on the fulcrum of the comma in that phrase.

Your post is a great shot across the bow. Seriously: shall we become Amish?

Re:The internet corrupts people (4)

LordArathres (244483) | more than 13 years ago | (#298680)

why dont parents teach their kids about porn? easy, because they are uncomfortable with it, so what is easier. Have someone else filter it out. Next we'll start filtering books that deal with death and murder becuase its easier than talking to your kids about it. Hell why dont we just lock them up in a basement until they are 18 because its easier than discussing things with them.

Why have kids at all? Screw it.

Arathres


I love my iBook. I use it to run Linux!

gives new meaning... (1)

epicurus (252619) | more than 13 years ago | (#298684)

gives new meaning to the slogan/question "Do you, uh, Yahoo!?"

I wish to register a complaint (4)

blamanj (253811) | more than 13 years ago | (#298685)

Dear Mr. Coward, I wish to complain about the apalling lack of witin the title of the article. Why such a banal description when you could have used Yahoo Does Dallas Yes, yes, she said yahoo or literally thousands of others. You are clearly no relation to Noel.

Can't surf in office (4)

jsse (254124) | more than 13 years ago | (#298686)

/. is banned in my office because it has too many hyperlinks to http://goatse.cx/ *shrug*

Re:Is this really such a big deal? (1)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 13 years ago | (#298693)

When American society 'realizes' that morality is relative, and that it's ok to kill your classmates just because you want to.

Wait, that's already happened...

Lessons learned (1)

MSBob (307239) | more than 13 years ago | (#298695)

Yahoo is joining that one elite group of dotcoms that are actually turning profit. Kudos!

Credit Card Age Verification? (1)

Cap'n Crax (313292) | more than 13 years ago | (#298696)

I've wondered about this for a while... I actually have about 8 different cards. Not that this is necessarily a good thing... BUT, as far as I remember, not a single one has EVER requested my birthdate on the application form. I'm quite certain about this. Aren't there, in fact, many 16-year-olds with cards? How does this work, I have to wonder...

Re:Dumb mistake.. (2)

Kujako (313468) | more than 13 years ago | (#298697)

"I wonder how many users in the 'moral minority' they just lost today?" Both of them?

Re:Dumb mistake.. (2)

Chakat (320875) | more than 13 years ago | (#298703)

Good riddance. Sex is perfectly natural, and it seems to me that the Christian religion has a dangerous obsession with opressing a very natural, very healthful act.

Also, is it just me, or does anyone else mentally substitute moron for wherever they see moral?

Re:This is a moral outrage! (1)

bwaters351 (323972) | more than 13 years ago | (#298706)

Any credibility your highly emotional arguement may have is outweighed by your sweeping generalizations and "miss-information".


1) "Though shalt not rape" is NOT a commandment.
2) "There is no such thing as consent in pornography, because every person involved is there because of dire economic need" -FALSE. I don't think Heffner is in dire economic need.
3) Men DO NOT universally crave and devour pornography. There are men that have never "devoured" pornography, ie: Aborigines or other people with no access or interest. I do not crave or devour pornography and am a man.

Hey, it's the internet's oldest profession... (2)

StarPie (411994) | more than 13 years ago | (#298714)

It's not for no reason that prostitution is called "the world's oldest profession." And porno is simply the extension of sex trade to the net. It was the first and best way to make money on the internet (and still is).

If you feel strongly about it, let Yahoo know. This is a lot like Wal-Mart choosing to sell porno tapes. Personally, I'd rather porno was something that you have to decide you want to find -- like video stores that have a curtained-off "adult section", rather than between the comedies and dramas. Think of it as opt-in. Having it on Yahoo is more like opt-out.

Re:Of course he isn't (1)

Rooman (412310) | more than 13 years ago | (#298715)

Of course he isn't, because he's grown fat off the suffering of the women he exploits.

Do you keep up with Playboy at all? I have a subscription -- hell, even my wife likes to browse and read the articles, so I have some authority here. ;-)

Do you know how many "superstars" pose for Playboy? You think Madonna, Drew Barrymore, or Janet Jackson every needed the cash when they posed for the cameras? I doubt it.

Sure, that sorry looser from Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire Darva Whats-Her-Name was likely strapped and was milking her 15 minutes of fame (as will the Survivor and Temptation Island chicks.

But still... There are many bad things that people (not just women) get stuck in because they need money. So don't blame the symptom (doing shitty work for money), but rather blame the problem: need for money.

And why do these women need money that badly? Hell, many of these girls quit good jobs (some wven with 4- or 8-year degrees!) to dance, do porn, etc.. So blame them for being so damned greedy!

Re:This is news? (1)

Magumbo (414471) | more than 13 years ago | (#298717)

hotteensluts.com $20.00

No, no. It's more like this:

Internet Fulfillment, LLC $20.00
or
EPay Solutions, Inc. $20.00
or
Priviweb Corp. $20.00

In any case, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what it is. Now if only Amazon would start selling one-click subscriptions to pr0n sites.

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New name for Yahoo.. (1)

Eustis Burbank (415579) | more than 13 years ago | (#298718)

Yahoochie!

Get it?

Is this really such a big deal? (2)

Dan Ost (415913) | more than 13 years ago | (#298720)

When will American society come to the realization that sex is a commodity?

It'll make things so much easier.

Re:Dumb mistake.. (1)

Blau Bear (442527) | more than 13 years ago | (#298722)

Yahoo uses Google anyways...so what does it matter?


Re:realzie (1)

Blau Bear (442527) | more than 13 years ago | (#298723)

GM is already responsible for a lot of the porn!!





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