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Raspberry Pi Gets 512MB Filling

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the bigger-and-better dept.

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sfcrazy writes "Good (and bad) news for Raspberry Pi lovers, the Model B has been upgraded to 512MB RAM from 256MB. Bad news is for those who already got their Model B shipments because all those who have outstanding orders with either distributors will get the *upgraded* version of the device, means with 512MB RAM instead of 256MB. The upgraded devices should be arriving to customers from today onwards. Raspberry Pi team will be pushing a firmware upgrade soon so these news devices can detect and use the additional RAM."

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"Bad news" (5, Insightful)

Bronster (13157) | about 2 years ago | (#41656953)

That's what happens when you adopt early, you get earlier revisions of stuff.

The alternative would be to never upgrade for fear of making the early adopters sad. Of course there has to be a balance, but most non-assholes accept that this is how things work.

On the plus side, they actually HAVE their Pi now, and have had the use of it already. If they hadn't bought it (collectively), there would be no Pi.

Mmm, Pi.

Re:"Bad news" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41656977)

Wwwaaaaaaah. Moral outrage. Someone else got more than me. Wwwaaaaaaaah.

Re:"Bad news" (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657009)

@ $35, it's not even an issue. buy a second one! wooo.

Re:"Bad news" (5, Funny)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41657201)

@ $50, it's not even an issue. buy a second one! wooo.

FTFY. Although at this point, I didn't really buy a pi, I loaned them 50 bucks.

switch distributors (4, Informative)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41657763)

The one distributor (RS, I think) is notorious for crazy long shipping times, while the other has almost always had stock. Cancel your order, go with the other guy.

Re:switch distributors (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658155)

Parent post is correct: RS has had atrociously long shipping times (though they'll charge your credit card almost immediately). Go with Farnell/Newark/Element instead.

And if you're not keen on trusting an AC's posting, go check the Shipping forum on the Raspberry Pi site for a second opinion.

Re:switch distributors (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658269)

Fairly certain RS is just scamming a lot of people at this point, considering you can get a dozen Pi's shipped next day from anyone else.

Re:switch distributors (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#41658747)

The one distributor (RS, I think) is notorious for crazy long shipping times, while the other has almost always had stock. Cancel your order, go with the other guy.

Thanks, I just cancelled the order.

Re:"Bad news" (-1, Troll)

mrclisdue (1321513) | about 2 years ago | (#41657019)

(yawn)

Call me when it can run the great Windows8, and I can Facebook. Oh, and it has to be nice and shiny.

cheers,

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657069)

why would you want to run Windows?...

Re:"Bad news" (1)

cjjjer (530715) | about 2 years ago | (#41657539)

Why would you want to run Linux on <insert_device_name_here>, people love to hack things, it's how we learn and keep amused.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#41657653)

Some developers of non-free applications decline to port them to GNU/Linux.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658347)

Good for them. Your point?

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658051)

Maybe he wants to actually do things on his computer.

Re:"Bad news" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658835)

your right, nothing can be done on lunix hrhrhrhr

Re:"Bad news" (5, Insightful)

mfh (56) | about 2 years ago | (#41656993)

That's what happens when you adopt early, you get earlier revisions of stuff.

Early adopters get a rare slice of history. Nothing wrong with that.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658409)

Then I'm keeping mine in it's original packaging!!! 8D

Re:"Bad news" (1, Offtopic)

Crosshair84 (2598247) | about 2 years ago | (#41657047)

Just like with SSDs, early ones were still faster than spinning rust, but horrifically unreliable. If you were someone who wanted the bleeding edge you still bought them, but for people who value reliability, we waited for the later models to come out.

I know I said in the past that I would buy one when Western Digital started making them, but the fact that Intel has a 5 year warranty on their SSDs now for awhile and the specs of the new 520 series I went ahead and got one. Combine that with finally listening to hairyfeet and switching from Firefox to Comodo Dragon, I've seen a nice speed boost. (That and now there are Chrome equivalents to my favorite plugins.)

Re:"Bad news" (3, Funny)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41657545)

I know I said in the past that I would buy one when Western Digital started making them

I know, I'm waiting for Boeing to start making automobiles. Toyotas just aren't reliable enough ;p

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. I personally think you are better off with an Intel SSD, since intel has experience with chips. WD might know how to make a good spinning disk, but AFAIK they don't own a single chip fab.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Crosshair84 (2598247) | about 2 years ago | (#41658333)

Ummmmmm, your analogy is a non sequitur. Boeing has never made cars. Western digital does make storage devices, so getting into SSD would be a logical step for them. You example would be logically coherent if you replaced "car" with "single engine prop planes", but even that's a stretch since SSDs are a growing market share while single engine prop planes are a rather mature market.

Nvidia doesn't own a single chip fab either, what does that have to do with anything?

Re:"Bad news" (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#41658441)

Boeing makes a reliable way to get from point A to point B.

Aren't you taking a joke a bit too seriously?

Nvidia doesn't own a single chip fab either, what does that have to do with anything?

Nvidia at least designs their own graphics chips. If WD has any chip design experience at all, it is in their drive controller. And I'm sure some of that experience applies to SSDs, but they have no memory chip experience at all.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41659655)

Ummmmmm, your analogy is a non sequitur. Boeing has never made cars. Western digital does make storage devices, so getting into SSD would be a logical step for them.

I don't feel it's actually that big of a stretch. Western Digital is and never has been a player in the flash-storage market, they've always been a player in the mechanical storage - market, just Boeing has always been about transporting people through the air instead of on the ground. Boeing does have experience with developing lightweight, sturdy structures with passenger safety and aerodynamics/fuel efficiency in mind just as WD has experience with error-correction, data usage patterns and such details; it'd be a new area for both, but not that far from what they already do.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658003)

Hopefully not a 330 or 520, failure rates on those are massive... not even the mighty chip giant can work around all sandforce bugs.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | about 2 years ago | (#41658479)

Re: Intel 520's

I've been buying them and sticking them into the SAS slots on HP DL360/DL380 servers. They snap right in. I bought about 25% more than I need in case there are any failures and will proactively rotate them out for newer/larger ones in a year.

Very fast.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658859)

Don't know about server environments, only know about the numbers for a large german etailer. Well over an order of magnitude higher "defective product" returns vs. sales for the 520 compared to intel controller intels. Not quite as bad as OCZ in the vertex2 days, but ... close.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657129)

No bad news about it. 16 years ago I spent a stupid amount of money on a PC with far less memory than the Pi. Computers get better and cheaper, that is the way of things.
I ordered a Pi with 256MB and got what I ordered, and am happy.

Re:"Bad news" (4, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | about 2 years ago | (#41657157)

Hmm, I guess the alternative is to wait until just before the end of time to buy all your devices.

(but you just know they have better devices in a parallel universe anyway)

Re:"Bad news" (4, Funny)

msauve (701917) | about 2 years ago | (#41657805)

"I guess the alternative is to wait until just before the end of time to buy all your devices."

Even better, if you're buying at the end of time, pay with credit!

Re:"Bad news" (2)

Laxori666 (748529) | about 2 years ago | (#41658127)

I think the notion of 'credit' will become more and more obsolete as the end of time approaches.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658679)

You need not wait all the way to the end of time. You can get pretty much the same effect by buying the device a split second before your own death.

Re:"Bad news" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657183)

Its one thing to have a revision like this a YEAR after getting it, but quite another when its only three months after getting it.

The Pi may have come out in March, but nobody received it until the summer. I'm annoyed by this. They should have just released it with 512 to begin with, or waited until next year to release it.

Re:"Bad news" (4, Insightful)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41657837)

The reason they were able to upgrade the Pi to 512MB is exactly because the 256MB - version was so popular. If there had not been such demand there still wouldn't be 512MB - version. So basically, you're annoyed because it is popular and therefore managed to get a discount -- rather illogical from your part.

Re:"Bad news" (0)

Crosshair84 (2598247) | about 2 years ago | (#41658449)

It's not 1994 anymore, ram is dirt cheap. Putting in 512mb from the start SHOULD have been obvious at the design meeting, would not have added significant cost, and would not have fragmented the software base, as now there will be different version for stuff with differing amounts of ram.

Re:"Bad news" (4, Insightful)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41658541)

It's not 1994 anymore, ram is dirt cheap. Putting in 512mb from the start SHOULD have been obvious at the design meeting, would not have added significant cost, and would not have fragmented the software base, as now there will be different version for stuff with differing amounts of ram.

The manufacturers weren't convinced there'd be enough demand for the Pi and therefore getting a deal for 512MB chips would indeed have increased the price of the device quite a bit. Also, your argument is like saying that they should never ever do upgraded versions of anything whatsoever because -- gee whiz! -- there will be new versions of stuff to make use of new possibilities!

Re:"Bad news" (1, Interesting)

Crosshair84 (2598247) | about 2 years ago | (#41659385)

The manufacturers weren't convinced there'd be enough demand for the Pi and therefore getting a deal for 512MB chips would indeed have increased the price of the device quite a bit.

I was not aware of this, do you have a link elaborating on that? Given that the VIA APC has 512 of ram and almost the same price I am slightly skeptical of this claim.

Also, your argument is like saying that they should never ever do upgraded versions of anything whatsoever because -- gee whiz! -- there will be new versions of stuff to make use of new possibilities!

No it is not like that at all. There IS such a thing as reving your product so often that nobody wants it, see Desktop Linux for proof of this. With a constantly shifting baseline, a good base of stable well developed software cannot be created because developers are constantly redeveloping for the new baseline. If the Pi was out for 2 years before the 512 came out, that would be one thing, but reving the baseline so drastically mere months after the initial hardware shipped is not smart when you are trying to get your new product established.

Come to think of it, hasn't Microsoft gotten a TON of flack for doing the exact same thing for WinPhone7? Depreciating the old version by reving the baseline to a new version just as the old version was starting to establish itself?

Re:"Bad news" (2)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41659525)

I was not aware of this, do you have a link elaborating on that? Given that the VIA APC has 512 of ram and almost the same price I am slightly skeptical of this claim.

Well, comparing VIA to the foundation behind the Pi is quite unfair as VIA is a large, established manufacturer with plants of their own; of course they can get deals with other manufacturers much more easily than a completely new entity that has no track record whatsoever and a questionable amount of financial resources to back up a deal with. Also, in VIA's case they themselves manufacture their own boards, the CPU, many of the connectors and so on, meaning that they can squeeze just that much more out of the price.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Narishma (822073) | about 2 years ago | (#41658765)

It's not 1994 anymore, ram is dirt cheap.

Only some types of RAM.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41659461)

PC-style RAM with dozens of small chips are cheap. One large package-on-package RAM chip is not cheap, especially in small quantities. You can't even buy 1 gig POP chips without being a major manufacturer. I imagine the switch to Sony's UK plant was key in getting quantity discounts.

If it was solely a matter of dropping in a new stick instead of having a single chip soldered directly to the CPU, we wouldn't even be discussing this.

Re:"Bad news" (4, Interesting)

Dishevel (1105119) | about 2 years ago | (#41658497)

Everybody STOP!
Do not improve anything. AC just bought something and we must respect his feelings in this matter.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

inasity_rules (1110095) | about 2 years ago | (#41657379)

I have my slice of Pi. And I am quite satisfied with 256Mb. I have plans for the little beast that don't require more RAM.... So I am happy. I liked the idea of a cheap limited computer. It makes you frugal with your resources and efficient. But then again if my ZX81 still worked, I'd be playing with that...

Re:"Bad news" (1)

kriston (7886) | about 2 years ago | (#41657525)

I haven't had a need to use more than the 256 megabytes it comes with but I will probably order another upgraded version anyway.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41657549)

On the down side, I'm kind of pissed that I have a device that will now be relegated to second-tier status, because everyone and their mom will end up planning for a 512MB memory envelope.

On the even further down side, they will almost certainly target Android to use that much memory, and those of us with a Rev.A will have a nightmare of a time.

On the even further down side, you still can't get ICS, which they claimed to have working two months ago. WTF?

Finally, for the same actual delivered price, you can get something else. For barely more you can get a VIA APC from Newegg. For the same price, you can get one of these sticks that run ICS.

Raspberry Pi has turned out to be kind of a comedy of incompetence, and I now regret buying one. Between the ethernet jack and the usb polyfuses and the low memory and the lack of forthcomingness I feel like I might as well have just bought a finished commercial device and saved myself a lot of trouble. This is what I get for being impatient. They've talked a lot about how "Open" they are but they don't even seem to be able to release the updated blob to make ICS work, they won't tell us when or even any kind of detail on why, the memory upgrade had to be coming but they didn't want people to wait so they didn't tell us. And then there's how pathetic the shippers have been, claiming they have them in stock when they aren't even fulfilling orders themselves, promising air shipping for the price of ground and then shipping them ground anyway, etc.

Re:"Bad news" (2)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41657939)

Finally, for the same actual delivered price, you can get something else. For barely more you can get a VIA APC from Newegg. For the same price, you can get one of these sticks that run ICS.

You do realize that those do not offer the same kind of modifiability as the RPi? The VIA APC has very few extra ports and the sticks have literally none. In other words, they cater to entirely different audience and if you bought an RPi but actually wanted a VIA APC or similar then you hadn't really thought about what you actually want. Yes, it is sad that the RPi doesn't seem to suit you, but blaming them for that is just shifting blame for your bad purchase from yourself.

the memory upgrade had to be coming but they didn't want people to wait so they didn't tell us.

I quite doubt it's like that. Most likely they couldn't secure a deal for larger memory chips at the same price because the manufacturer of those chips wasn't convinced that there'd be enough demand for the RPi. Now that the demand has been proven the deal could be closed. It's just basic business practices, mate.

Re:"Bad news" (1)

xaxa (988988) | about 2 years ago | (#41658047)

My my, what a great big sense of entitlement you have!

The Raspberry Pi Foundation is a registered charity, created to improve computer science education in schools. Much of the work has been done by volunteers.

If you don't want your board, sell it on eBay. They seem to have held their value so far.

Re:"Bad news" (2)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#41658159)

That's what happens when you adopt early, you get earlier revisions of stuff.

That's why I'm waiting for the fastest and bestest computer anyone will ever build! By the way, is there any schedule for when they're gonna build it?

Re:"Bad news" (1)

Erbo (384) | about 2 years ago | (#41658617)

Why "bad news"? This is an excellent opportunity to get a second one...and give the original to someone who would appreciate it as a Christmas gift. Which is what I plan on doing...and it means ModMyPi will be getting more business, too, as I get another case for the new one.

yeah, if you can get your hands on one. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41656955)

Good luck!

Re:yeah, if you can get your hands on one. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658369)

I would assume that the delivery problems are mostly sorted out by now.

Bring on the Android Pi (4, Interesting)

judgecorp (778838) | about 2 years ago | (#41656959)

One exciting thing is the Pi can now run the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android... http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/raspberry-pi-512mb-ram-96143 [techweekeurope.co.uk]

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657137)

This is funny; I want to get rid of my stupid 15 month old phone that old has 512 MB of RAM and can't even run the Gingerbread (2.3) that it is forever stuck on properly. It has severe screen lag, takes 8 seconds for the camera app to start, pressing a "direct dial" shortcut on the home screen makes you think you didn't press it hard enough since it takes another 10 seconds for the dialer to appear. I wouldn't want to run any version of Android in only 512 MB of RAM. It isn't enough - at least for a phone that is running all the "goo" that makes up Android on a phone and also running Motorola's ridiculous "blur". Perhaps it is fine on a Pi that is running just targeted code.

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658841)

That's funny because my N900 runs Gingerbread perfectly well* in only 256MB RAM. 512MB is plenty of RAM for Android, some apps may want more and more will help with the limited multitasking Android does, but the OS itself will be fine with it. Maybe your phone has lots of crap running in the background or something.

*I mean performance wise the last time I tried it, it did however have power management issues.

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 2 years ago | (#41657517)

I'm going to go with the AC sibling of mine. Android to me is a terrible operating system, I don't know enough about it to know whether it's better in newer versions (jellybean etc) or whether it's something specific to my phone and the phones I've seen, but Android isn't my idea of a good OS. I would much rather run Linux on the Raspberry Pi, and don't care to run Android. I only have an Android phone because there really isn't a whole lot else out there. iPhone is nice but expensive. Windows Phone is almost non existent. Nokia (symbian) had some really nice phones but there are almost no apps available. Don't even get me started on BlackBerry. The entire phone ecosystem is actually pretty terrible as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (1)

Lifyre (960576) | about 2 years ago | (#41658107)

I suspect it is your phone mostly. The biggest problem Android has is that there is a huge quality range from phone to phone and manufacturer to manufacturer. The software and modifications that HTC, Motorola, and Samsung force on Android users are horrendous and lead to some absolutely horrible experiences with worse performance.

If you use the Android that Google releases (or something close to it, like Asus) there is a world of difference and (to me) a superior experience to iOS.

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (1)

jjmcwill (3739) | about 2 years ago | (#41659315)

This behavior by the phone makers has had perplexed me for some time now.

Can't they see how bad they're making the phones when they pile on all these crappy mods?

Re:Bring on the Android Pi (0)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41657617)

One exciting thing is the Pi can now run the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android... http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/raspberry-pi-512mb-ram-96143 [techweekeurope.co.uk]

On July 31 they said ICS was coming [raspberrypi.org] , in only 256MB RAM. They said that it was working except for sound, with a new VideoCore binary. Then they claimed (eventually, after much begging and wringing of hands) that they couldn't release it. Now they're claiming you need 512MB? First, that's a lie. Second, does this mean I'm not going to be able to run ICS on my Rev.A? Because I was promised that I could.

The idea of being able to run ICS would be more exciting if they would release it, which they don't appear to be willing or able to do. It hasn't quite reached bait and switch yet, but it's close.

Good site for Raspberry Pi hardware? (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#41656963)

My son is really interested in robotics and hardware stuff. Is there some site out there that has a list of components and accessories for sale (like robotic arms, led displays, etc.) that will work out of the box with Raspberry Pi's? I've seen a few of these for other prototyping hardware controllers, but the prices were a bit steep.

Re:Good site for Raspberry Pi hardware? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657045)

Adafruit.com has some nifty items. Also checkout hackaday.com for some interesting raspi stuff.

Re:Good site for Raspberry Pi hardware? (4, Informative)

capedgirardeau (531367) | about 2 years ago | (#41657365)

I would check out the RPi forums and potentially the wiki. There are a lot of folks who use the RPi for robotics.

Here is a link to the sub forum that includes robotics, but I bet there are robotics threads in lots of other places on their forums as well:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=37 [raspberrypi.org]

And here is the RPi wiki:
http://elinux.org/RPi_Hub [elinux.org]

Feel free to ask on the forums, I have found them to be very friendly.

How about actually shipping them? (4, Interesting)

Terrasque (796014) | about 2 years ago | (#41656969)

How about actually, you know, shipping the things? Ordered a month ago, only thing I've got from it so far is an automated email and a PI-shaped hole in my paypal account..

Less mucking about, more actually delivering stuff please.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (2)

niftydude (1745144) | about 2 years ago | (#41657025)

How about actually, you know, shipping the things? Ordered a month ago, only thing I've got from it so far is an automated email and a PI-shaped hole in my paypal account..

I see this comment all over the place. Who did you order from?

I have two already. Bought mine from element14.

I don't mind about the extra ram, cause the tasks I'm using these ones for don't require it.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (4, Informative)

Terrasque (796014) | about 2 years ago | (#41657095)

Ordered from raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com - one of the two that was recommended from http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [raspberrypi.org] page.

I looked at element14 but they didn't seem to have a casing for it, so I ended up at the other recommended place.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658233)

I originally ordered from RS at the end of June, with a shipping estimate of 11 weeks. Five weeks later, I saw that Farnell/Element14 was shipping with a 4 week delay. I ordered a second Pi from Farnell, which arrived 10 days later.

I immediately cancelled my RS order. Since I wanted to get a Pi for my son, I ordered a second from Farnell. That too arrived before RS's original shipping date rolled around.

Avoid RS. Cancel your order if you still can. They're flat-out incompetent when it comes to the Pi.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658807)

Have you considered that maybe the reason you haven't received it is NOT because of the lack of devices but because of the lack of cases? I don't beleive there are any official cases, so this would be the fault of the vendor you ordered from. Just a guess on my part.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (1)

Sique (173459) | about 2 years ago | (#41657185)

Same with me. I ordered mine at Element14, and about a week later, I got it.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (4, Interesting)

rdnetto (955205) | about 2 years ago | (#41657373)

Here's a useful reference point: I ordered one from both element14 and RS at the same time. The RS one arrived several weeks after the one from element14. I ordered another one from element14 more recently, and it arrived in under 3 weeks.

AFAICT, most of the people complaining ordered theirs from RS. I suspect part of the reason may be that RS is using a completely separate website and therefore likely has a completely separate administrative process for fulfilling orders, which isn't as capable. Element14 just added them as items to their regular site, so they aren't subject to the same limitations. (I'd say that was a pretty good move on their part, given that I've since ordered lots of more obscure components from them.)

Re:How about actually shipping them? (1)

Tarkhein (2007710) | about 2 years ago | (#41657601)

Interesting. In my case, RS 'offered' the Rasberry Pi a month earlier than element14, so I jumped at the chance despite the 11 week despatch time warning. Later, this was delayed an additional 5 weeks, probably due to this RAM upgrade. Even now, RS warn a 6 week lead time between order and despatch, whereas element14 is 1-2 working days.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657065)

I ordered mine in mid-july.... still waiting...

At least, now I know that whenever it arrives (if it arrives) it will have more RAM

Re:How about actually shipping them? (1)

wjousts (1529427) | about 2 years ago | (#41657325)

I'm in about the same place. I ordered from Allied since I'm in the states. Their website [alliedelec.com] now states:

*Please note that due to extreme demand and short supply, the estimated delivery time is uncertain and will likely take several months. We do regret the delay and inconvenience this may cause.

I e-mailed them last week and they never got back to me. Fucking useless.

Allied is RS Components....try Newark (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41657853)

I've seen tons of horror stories from people that ordered from RS Components (AKA Allied). On the other hand, people ordering from Farnell/Newark/element14 seem to be able to get them within days.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657477)

Me too. I wonder how many gigabytes of RAM is in my device if/when it arrives any year from now.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657091)

Only a month? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

I'm at 4 and counting, while I saw a dude on Reddit mention 1 year.

Re:How about actually shipping them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657311)

while I saw a dude on Reddit mention 1 year.

Raspberry pi hasn't even been out a year...

switch suppliers (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41657859)

Cancel your order and go with Farnell/Newark/element14

Re:How about actually shipping them? (1)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#41657341)

Order a Model B last month from element14, it took 1 week to arrive. I live in Nebraska.

THE!!!! (2, Informative)

organgtool (966989) | about 2 years ago | (#41657093)

I have been reading Slashdot for fourteen years and I have never once complained about the grammar in a summary before (usually there are enough pedants out there to do more than enough complaining), but this summary is horrible. I do not blame the submitter because I realize that English may not be his or her first language, but I though Slashdot was supposed to have some sort of editors who at least read the summary once before posting it to the front page. I had to read the second sentence several times to confirm that it meant what I thought it did and in the rest of the summary the article "the" is missing at least two times. I really do love this site, but if you want to call yourself an editor, then please do the job or turn it over to someone who will.

Re:THE!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657213)

The "the" is missing, oh how strunk and white of it. Here we have an echo "the "the"", What else do you call it when you put new hardware in? Filling. Perfect description. You computer filling, wires, cables, fans, daughter cards, transformer rectumfryers.

Maybe you would like to edit my post for me? Feel free.

Fuck I thourght it said Raspery pie gets 2 GB ram update from teh 512MB's, where is my head now?

Have nice day, Mr polish'd tool.

ur frien 2 teh end

Re:THE!!!! (2, Funny)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about 2 years ago | (#41657351)

I have been reading Slashdot for fourteen years and I have never once complained about the grammar in a summary before. Usually there are enough pedants out there to do more than enough complaining, but this summary is horrible. I do not blame the submitter because I realize that English may not be his or her first language, but I thought Slashdot was supposed to have some sort of editorial staff who at least read the summary once before posting it to the front page. I had to read the second sentence several times to confirm that it meant what I thought it did, and in the rest of the summary the article "the" is missing at least two times. I really do love this site, but if you want to call yourself an editor, then please do the job or turn it over to someone who will.

Muphry's Law strikes again [wikipedia.org]

Re:THE!!!! (1)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | about 2 years ago | (#41658953)

but I though Slashdot was

Did you?

I know this sounds stupid, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657203)

If someone ordered the 256MB version and didn't want the "upgrade" for a variety of reasons, do they have resource? (No, I didn't order one.)

Re:I know this sounds stupid, but... (1)

Narishma (822073) | about 2 years ago | (#41657277)

What would those reasons be? It's the same price as the 256 MB version. If you don't want the extra RAM, nobody is forcing you to use it.

Re:I know this sounds stupid, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658007)

Poster #41657203 here. I meant "recourse", not "resource". But, I believe RAM does produce some heat let alone draws slightly more electricity. That's not a big deal unless one is making a server farm out of them. Hypothetically, of course.

Re:I know this sounds stupid, but... (2)

scythian_monk (759155) | about 2 years ago | (#41657595)

I am sure you will be able to find folks who want to sell off their 256 MB Pi to buy the upgraded one.

just cancelled my pi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657285)

if they cant deliver to me 12 weeks after i paid for the thing i am just going to have to do without it
btw / i used the rsonline store i probably should have used the other one. but hell i saw them for 59 bucks at radio shack like 4 weeks ago--not online but physically inside the store--the guy at the counter said it wasnt a radio shack purchase and that he had ordered them from the same place i did ,AFTER i had ordered my single board , and he got his first.. understandable as the order in bulk gets filled first , i emailed them and asked fthem to speed it up a little bit ,, now waited several more weeks and finally just cancelled the whole thing outright /bitter

Re:just cancelled my pi (1)

3dr (169908) | about 2 years ago | (#41659087)

Locating a source has been a problem due to demand and what appears to be limited production. I've periodically checked, but have not found it in stock yet. But, I ordered 2 today while reading the comments here, and Newark's estimate is delivery this week. We shall see.

Alternatives (1)

wjousts (1529427) | about 2 years ago | (#41657347)

Anybody got any leads on a decent alternative to the Raspberry Pi? Since it seems impossible to actually get hold of one and I'd like to get a really compact embedded computer for a project.

Re:Alternatives (1)

Brit_in_the_USA (936704) | about 2 years ago | (#41657649)

Try researching:
Audrino, TI MSP430 Launchpad, TI Stellaris ARM Cortex-M Launchpad, Electric Imp

Re:Alternatives (1)

wjousts (1529427) | about 2 years ago | (#41659353)

I've used the Netduino before, and it's not quite the same thing.

Order via Farnell/Newark/element14 (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41657889)

They seem to be handling this competently, while RS Components/Allied seems to be screwing up royally.

Re:Order via Farnell/Newark/element14 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41658445)

In the UK Maplin is also selling the Raspberry Pi in a starter kit eg. mouse, keyboard, SD card etc.

Re:Order via Farnell/Newark/element14 (1)

wjousts (1529427) | about 2 years ago | (#41659387)

Yeah, that does seem to be the observation a lot of people are making. I might well cancel my order with Allied and try ordering from the other guys.

Re:Alternatives (1)

Narishma (822073) | about 2 years ago | (#41658849)

If you want to get hold of one, just don't order it from RS/Allied and you'll be fine.

Can we just hurry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657647)

Can we just hurry up, use all of the oil in the middle east and we can go back to not giving a fuck about that region or the 15th century inhabitants?

prices raised ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657711)

Is it a coincidence if the price on Farnell (for business custommers) just went from 29 euros to 38 euros (without taxes) ?
http://fr.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?id=2191863&Ntt=2191863&

Newark still shows $35 (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41657903)

with 100 in stock to ship

Why the complaints? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41657727)

David Braben's original Model B only had 32K RAM! It didn't stop him writing Elite software ...

Re:Why the complaints? (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#41659263)

Probably because people started to use this as a full Ubuntu system.

Some Pi Alternatives (2, Informative)

evilviper (135110) | about 2 years ago | (#41658963)

If you want a smartphone, the Alcatel Venture has comparable specs, and sells for $50, contract-free (and VirginMobile also has some of the cheapest cell plans, too, if you want to sign up).

If you want a desktop, you can usually get a used, mini P4 system (40w idle) for $32 from geeks.com. Better deals are often available from local off-lease PC dealers.

If you want a tablet, Walmart stocks a 7" Pandigital unit for $50.

If you want video streaming and 1080p decoding, the D-Link MovieNite Streaming Player, DSM310 is selling for $38 at WalMart.

If you want network-attached cameras, you can find ethernet and WiFi (g) models with PTZ, built-in mic and speaker, and night-vision for $50, maybe less.

With the Pi needing binary blobs as well, I really see nowhere than the Pi makes sense.

Re:Some Pi Alternatives (4, Insightful)

jockm (233372) | about 2 years ago | (#41659097)

Hmm none of those systems have open pins for hardware work, only one is roughly the same size, you can't really install any linux you want on most of them, only one can be run off of AA batteries.

And while you can to a lot with the hardware you mentioned, it isn't the same as having a small, relatively powerful, piece of generic hardware.

Binary blobs don't bother everyone...

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