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Microsoft Surface Pricing Goes Toe-to-Toe With Apple iPad

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the because-high-prices-drive-adoption dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Microsoft has finally revealed the pricing of its upcoming Surface tablet to a small group of journalists, including Time's Harry McCracken, who wrote in an Oct. 16 posting that the device's 32GB version will retail for $499 (or $599 with the flexible keyboard cover) and the 64GB one for $699 (cover included). Preorders will apparently begin by midday Oct. 16. Microsoft unveiled Surface over the summer but kept the pricing a secret until now. That information vacuum led some to hope against hope that Microsoft would attempt something radical and price Surface extraordinarily low—$199, perhaps—in an attempt to undercut Apple's iPad. While that didn't happen, Surface at least matches its biggest rival's low- and high-end price points. The WiFi-only, 16GB version of the iPad retails for $499, while the WiFi-only, 64GB version costs $699 (iPads with a cellular connection cost a bit more)." A related article at BGR explains why the Surface is Microsoft's latest attempt to re-invent itself.

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Merry Christmas! (4, Funny)

Just Some Guy (3352) | about 2 years ago | (#41671377)

Somewhere, a kid has been begging and pleading to get an iPad for Christmas.

Somewhere, a parent is thrilled to find that Microsoft's iPads are on sale for $100 off.

One day, both of them will relate the story to their therapists.

Re:Merry Christmas! (1)

midifarm (666278) | about 2 years ago | (#41671499)

Or buy now for an instant $25 savings!

Re:Merry Hanukkah (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671875)

Or buy now for an instant $25 savings!

Say that reminds me! Why do Jews have such big ugly noses? Because air is free.

How was copper wiring invented? Two jews fighting over a penny.

What's the difference between a pizza and a jew? The pizza doesn't scream when you put it in the oven.

What do you call a gay jew? He-blew.

Re:Merry Christmas! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671553)

Somewhere, a kid has been begging and pleading to get an iPad for Christmas.

Somewhere, a parent is thrilled to find that Microsoft's iPads are on sale for $100 off.

One day, both of them will relate the story to their therapists.

Mitt, is that you?

Re:Merry Christmas! (3, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#41671561)

Surface is the new Zune!

"LONG LIVE ZUNE!" :-)

Just saying this has me bursting into laughter.

Re:Merry Christmas! (1)

Motard (1553251) | about 2 years ago | (#41671829)

Actally, XBOX Music is the new Zune. And it does everything that iTunes, Pandora, Spotify, et. al. do, while they don't do everything it does.

Re:Merry Christmas! (2, Interesting)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 2 years ago | (#41671609)

Google Galaxy Nexus $250 16GB.

Re:Merry Christmas! (0)

Motard (1553251) | about 2 years ago | (#41671871)

*With free surveillance.

Re:Merry Christmas! (1)

teg (97890) | about 2 years ago | (#41671887)

Google Galaxy Nexus $250 16GB.

That one is much smaller than the iPad. Google hasn't released a normal size tablet yet, just the mini version.

Re:Merry Christmas! (4, Funny)

Bill Dimm (463823) | about 2 years ago | (#41671839)

That kid is Eric Cartman [southparkstudios.com] (audio is NSFW).

Re:Merry Christmas! (1)

Dixie_Flatline (5077) | about 2 years ago | (#41671869)

Augh, this is like when I was a kid and I asked for Transformers and got 'Go-Bots' instead. That poor kid. :(

Ok...I'm waiting for the punch line... (4, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 2 years ago | (#41671381)

...including Time's Harry McCracken...

Who's his co-workers?

Jack Mehoff?

Chuck Roast?

Phil Magroin?

Seymour Butz?

Re:Ok...I'm waiting for the punch line... (4, Funny)

AioKits (1235070) | about 2 years ago | (#41671639)

How did you get the names of four of my eight bosses?!

Re:Ok...I'm waiting for the punch line... (2)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671659)

You forget his boss Peter Sniffer and his girlfriend Sharron Dick.

Re:Ok...I'm waiting for the punch line... (1)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#41671891)

Don't forget Betty Humpter and Amanda Huginkis.

Awesome! (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41671385)

I've always wanted to pay over $100 for the pure pleasure of typing on one of those rubbery keypads with a lot of squish and almost no travel!

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671479)

Have you even touched one of those keyboards to know what you are talking about? Or are you just assuming it is like other portable keyboards that have come before?

Re:Awesome! (4, Informative)

FreakyGeeky (23009) | about 2 years ago | (#41671567)

Using your eyes, look at the surface keyboard. Notice how thin it is. How much travel could there possibly be?

Re:Awesome! (1)

Flipao (903929) | about 2 years ago | (#41671613)

If there's no travel you might as well save your money and type on the screen.

Re:Awesome! (1)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about 2 years ago | (#41671895)

Typing on the screen still obscures half the display with your hand and the keyboard. Even with no travel, the touch keyboard is a net gain for productivity. Either way, there is a mechanical cover as well that is a little thicker but has actual mechanical keys. Probably still not as good as a normal keyboard, but sufficient enough for what it is.

Re:Awesome! (2)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 2 years ago | (#41671631)

I have. They're on the XO-1. They're crap but they work. Durable, but not ergonomic.

There is no travel at all on Touch Cover. (2)

guidryp (702488) | about 2 years ago | (#41671641)

Have you even touched one of those keyboards to know what you are talking about? Or are you just assuming it is like other portable keyboards that have come before?

Read the specs. The Touch cover has no travel, it has no keyswitches that move to activate.

It is a flat piece of plastic with touchscreen like capacitive sensors, similar to a smartphone/tablet screen.

Re:There is no travel at all on Touch Cover. (4, Funny)

Tapewolf (1639955) | about 2 years ago | (#41671737)

Read the specs. The Touch cover has no travel, it has no keyswitches that move to activate.

It is a flat piece of plastic with touchscreen like capacitive sensors, similar to a smartphone/tablet screen.

So they've made something even worse than the Sinclair ZX80 keyboard...?

Re:There is no travel at all on Touch Cover. (5, Funny)

ByOhTek (1181381) | about 2 years ago | (#41671841)

I think the only useful question remaining then is...

Will it blend?

Re:Awesome! (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41671679)

I'm going out on a limb and guessing that something made of 3mm of polyurethane and described in TFA as " the experience is definitely closer to typing on glass than it is to typing on a standard keyboard. Just as there was a learning curve when we first began typing on glass smartphone screens, typing on soft-touch polyurethane will take some getting used to." will be pretty damn non-tactile, even by the relaxed standards of laptop keyboards...

Re:Awesome! (3, Insightful)

toriver (11308) | about 2 years ago | (#41671853)

Nah, the thousands that used Sinclair ZX-81, Atari 400 or 600, Tandy TRS-80 or SpectraVideo... the early one with such a keyboard... can flex treir skills again :)

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671511)

If you want a more standard keyboard, AMD would love for you to start buying laptops again.

Or you have the option of not buying the cover, and then you can carry around a full sized keyboard. Just don't be surprised when you get de-booked between gym and recess.

Re:Awesome! (1)

narcc (412956) | about 2 years ago | (#41671615)

After tapping on glass, it's bound to feel like a significant improvement...

Re:Awesome! (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#41671847)

After tapping on glass, it's bound to feel like a significant improvement...

If you have Android there are competing virtual keyboards (including e.g. Swype) and you'll find they can be much better than normal alphabetic keyboard layout. In fact once you get used to them they are faster and more practical than a portable keyboard too.

Re:Awesome! (1)

Motard (1553251) | about 2 years ago | (#41671691)

That's why it's nice that it's optional. If you don't want a keyboard, you don't have to pay for one. If you want a regular keyboard, just buy your choice of keyboard separately.

Re:Awesome! (4, Interesting)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41671845)

Microsoft will get the most traction with Windows 8 on laptops and desktops with touch screen displays augmenting a normal keyboard. After using tablets for a while, I've recently felt the urge in some circumstances to reach up from the keyboard to swipe or pinch the display while using my laptop and desktop. Apple may have to play catch up, if touch displays become common outside the tablet format.

What about the devices? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671417)

Price is the same at the same storage point. Anything else similar between the devices?

pre-order (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671419)

right here: http://t.co/igoUntmU

Warning Goatse Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671597)

Mod parent down.

Re:Warning Goatse Link (3, Funny)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#41671883)

Mod parent down.

God; I was afraid it was a link to a browser exploit that would automatically add you to the queue to get a surface. After thinking that Goatse seems quite innocent.

FAIL ! (5, Insightful)

VonSkippy (892467) | about 2 years ago | (#41671449)

When your competitor has OWNED the market for several years, you don't MATCH their price, you blow it away.

Who would be dumb enough to pay the same price as a 3rd generation device to guinea pig a 1st gen device from a company that is known to suck at first releases?

And then there's Google's tablet for a dainty $199/$249

Microsoft really does suck at new things.

Re:FAIL ! (0)

ByOhTek (1181381) | about 2 years ago | (#41671677)

If they are keeping the Tegra3 and 2GB of memory, which I've read of before, the MS tablets have some advantages over the iPad3.

But yeah, reliability. as with any version of Windows, I'm waiting for SP1 or 2... If I even bother.

Re:FAIL ! (2, Informative)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#41671683)

Who would be dumb enough to pay the same price as a 3rd generation device to guinea pig a 1st gen device from a company that is known to suck at first releases?

The same people as bought Windows phones. Which is to say Microsoft Employees and associates. Unlike almost every other company which will deliver your device to you, they even force their employees to go out and buy through normal retail channels to make it look as if there's a rush of people who are interested in the product.

Re:FAIL ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671713)

Not to mention the Surface's lower screen resolution and apparent lack of GPS (at least it's not listed on the Microsofts own spec sheets).
I reminded of Cisco's 7" tablet which they were planning to sell for more than an IPad, but then wised up and decided not to bother.

Presumably the Surface will be marketed as easier to integrate into windows network environments and hence be more attractive to the business community.

Re:FAIL ! (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#41671817)

But everything we've seen from Windows 8 mobile variant says that there is not going to be much in the way of integration beyond what one finds in iOS and Android. I had thought when all this talk of Windows smart devices began that we would be seeing that level of integration, which would indeed have made me rather interested. But instead, it will still be ActiveSync for email, just like a few generations of iOS and Android devices have had for a long time.

Re:FAIL ! (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 2 years ago | (#41671897)

Integrate maybe but this version (ARM) doesn't give businesses any advantage over an iPad. The x86 version may as it may run legacy software but that won't be released for a while and it won't be as cheap. This version has the disadvantage of being new and untested with lack of software and accessories.

Re:FAIL ! (4, Interesting)

Spy Handler (822350) | about 2 years ago | (#41671793)

Microsoft doesn't like price wars. I suspect Gates and Ballmer feel it's beneath them. Plus they're used to decades of charging monopoly prices on Windows and Office.

I walked into a Microsoft Store the other day and looked around. Everything there was priced the same or higher than at Fry's or Target.... even though the place was mostly empty and it seemed like they badly need more traffic in the store.

Re:FAIL ! (3, Insightful)

Missing.Matter (1845576) | about 2 years ago | (#41671843)

They undercut the iPad price by $100. Surface starts at 32GB for $499 (and includes Office). The equivalent iPad costs $599 (Or $689 if you want to add in an office suite and a couple of USB/SD/HDMI port adapters for a level comparison). Besides, even if the Surface isn't the cheapest windows tablet, other manufacturers like Dell can step right in and make a $399 tablet.

It's strange, Slashdot blasts Microsoft for entering the hardware space saying they're going to screw over their partners, and then when they don't completely screw over their partners by drastically undercutting the entire market, they get blasted on Slashdot again.

Re:FAIL ! (1)

iONiUM (530420) | about 2 years ago | (#41671865)

Who would be dumb enough to pay the same price as a 3rd generation device to guinea pig a 1st gen device from a company that is known to suck at first releases?

I'm guessing, people who don't know that Microsoft is known to suck at first releases.

:O (-1, Redundant)

syngularyx (1070768) | about 2 years ago | (#41671451)

yawnnnnnnnn

Too little, too late (4, Insightful)

coinreturn (617535) | about 2 years ago | (#41671485)

Finally, they enter the ballgame, just as Apple is set to debut the iPad Mini. Good luck with that, Microsoft.

Re:Too little, too late (1, Interesting)

Tony Isaac (1301187) | about 2 years ago | (#41671517)

You're right, when it comes to the consumer market. But Microsoft is still firmly entrenched in business. I predict large corporations will eat up Microsoft's new tablet.

Re:Too little, too late (5, Insightful)

localman57 (1340533) | about 2 years ago | (#41671575)

You're right, when it comes to the consumer market. But Microsoft is still firmly entrenched in business. I predict large corporations will eat up Microsoft's new tablet.

Yeah. Microsoft is like RIM. Entrenched in business. They have nothing to worry about from Apple.

Re:Too little, too late (3, Interesting)

jimmyfrank (1106681) | about 2 years ago | (#41671703)

I agree, unless Apple starts making a C# clone along with a super kickass IDE and all the other goodies that go along with the .NET stack.

MICROSOFT IS RIM (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#41671711)

Shout it from the rooftop.

Re:Too little, too late (4, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#41671577)

They definitely will love the groundbreaking "no, you cannot bind it to a domain or control it with AD policies, not even with the purchase of some CAL or extra license" feature...

Re:Too little, too late (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671787)

The x86 version can join a domain. The RT version can use AD policies through Exchange 2013 and get uploaded that way through your corporates email address account.

I have not tried it yet but arstechnica.com showed how to do it earlier this year and it can even upload corporate apps and encrypt on the fly. When you are done with work you log in with your hotmail account and the corporate apps are hidden and encrypted away.

I am kind of in favor of killing AD. It is not dynamic nor event driven and designed for desktops in a physical location with a physical lan. VPN is an ugly hack and I have seen sales people without admin rights getting all bitchy about issues related to it.

I am not defending it over an IPAD but MS maybe on to something we can look forward to in Windows 9 with roaming profiles.

Re:Too little, too late (2)

timeOday (582209) | about 2 years ago | (#41671593)

I thought the most interesting detail in the announcement was that Office will be available on it.

Of course this makes one wonder, will it be "real" MS Office? Or some incomplete remake, like Office for Mac... or even worse?

I agree the focus on the enterprise is their best hope. The "surfing youtube" niche is full.

Re:Too little, too late (1)

AnotherShep (599837) | about 2 years ago | (#41671673)

'Office Home & Student 2013 RT Preview and the final version are not for use in commercial, nonprofit, or revenue generating activities. Commercial license options available (sold separately). '

Re:Too little, too late (1)

JWW (79176) | about 2 years ago | (#41671611)

Wrong!

And I say this as someone who a long time ago purchased a handful of Microsoft's tablets for a business.

The people in business who are asking for a tablet are not asking for an MS tablet. There's virtually no difference between them and the kid talked about in the first post...

Re:Too little, too late (3, Funny)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#41671745)

You want to wear the CONE OF SHAME in a meeting? Bring a Surface. :-)

Why should the Blackberry users hog all the ignominy?

Re:Too little, too late (1)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#41671647)

why?
ios has the best mobile MS Exchange client right now
easy to develop and deploy internally developed apps without itunes
lots of enterprise apps in the app store right now. everything from vmware, to access to corporate databases on the go

what is Microsoft going to offer other than a lite version of MS Office?

Re:Too little, too late (2)

toriver (11308) | about 2 years ago | (#41671753)

Yeah, I found it funny that iOS had encrypted ActiveSync before Microsoft's own phone OS.

Re:Too little, too late (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671837)

The ones highly tied to MS also run outdated software. PHBs may want to try it but I bet their sharepoint still only works in IE 6.

Re:Too little, too late (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#41671855)

I'm sure all those people in my business running around with Androids and iOS devices will be dumping them in favor of a Windows product that apparently does nothing particularly special, and will have a much much smaller app ecosystem.

1. Come late to the party.
2. Release device with few if any real advantages over entrenched competition.
3. ???
4. Profit

Re:Too little, too late (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 2 years ago | (#41671661)

Everyone is telling me that the Nexus 7 just doesn't have the screen size and they NEED an iPad. When the iPad 7 comes out they'll flock to it and go, "Uh. Siri?" Then apple will discontinue Siri for being worthless.

Re:Too little, too late (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671697)

I am thinking this might be a PHB toy to run Office on the go. Probably purchased by conservative IT departments for staff whining about getting tablets.

That's great and all (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671503)

But for the same price people will just buy an iPad with its established app store eco system, millions of already satisfied customers and huge market dominance. There had better be some petty attractive early adopter discounts or this'll be another Zune. Which is a shame, because the Surface looks awesome.

Re:That's great and all (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | about 2 years ago | (#41671591)

Yep. At 200-300$, it's an attractive buy, but at 500-600, it is not. Just like the HP TouchPad that sold like shiat at the same pricepoints, but sold like gangbusters at $100

Re:That's great and all (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about 2 years ago | (#41671699)

The Zune's project name was Microsoft MeToo, and the Surface's project name was Microsoft MeToo2

You pays your money and takes your choice (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about 2 years ago | (#41671515)

You pays your money and takes your choice. That's all

When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (1)

cplusplus (782679) | about 2 years ago | (#41671519)

Hmmm. Windows 8 RT just doesn't interest me. I don't even think I'll even give these a glance until the x86 version arrives.

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (-1, Troll)

StripedCow (776465) | about 2 years ago | (#41671635)

Are you kidding me? Finally we have a tablet with a full-blown OS. Finally tablets can no longer be considered toys.

This is the point we have been waiting for. Not Steve Jobs introducing his half-baked device a couple of years ago.

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (1)

toriver (11308) | about 2 years ago | (#41671701)

2000 called, it wanted to tell you about the Windows Tablet that noone bought.

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671707)

Its RT, or the 'Metro Only' part of Windows 8. What you're thinking of is "Surface Pro" which is not coming until early 2013. (And which we don't know the price of)

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (1)

tysonedwards (969693) | about 2 years ago | (#41671773)

Here I was thinking that Windows RT was an OS that was similar with the x86 counterparts, would be limited to Metro (or whatever new name they have now) apps, and only those that developers choose to make an ARM version for. My mistake... you've proven that it really does stand out from the crowd in terms of tablets. Thank you for correcting us and showing us that Windows RT is in fact a fully-baked and mature product that can in no way be described as a toy.

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (1)

Astatine (179864) | about 2 years ago | (#41671779)

The ARM version of Surface runs Windows RT, just like other ARM based Windows 8 tablets.

No Windows desktop, only Metro, err, I mean, "Modern UI". Can only install apps from the Windows Store, subject to an Apple-like approval process. $49 for a personal, or $99+ for a corporate, developer license (IIRC).

The x86 version will run the desktop, but I still don't want one, because it'll use the Intel "Clover Trail" Atom and Linux distributions won't run on it (or rather they'll run, but will get a battery life of about 10 minutes, due to closed power management specifications; useless).

Surface is a toy. Keep buying laptops. :P

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (2)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41671881)

There is a Windows desktop in RT, but it doesn't let you run your own apps, only what comes with it (Explorer, IE, Office, PowerShell etc).

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (1)

jdastrup (1075795) | about 2 years ago | (#41671807)

No, it is not a full blown OS. Windows 8 RT by definition is not a full-blown OS. That's the point of waiting for the x86 version

Re:When are the x86 Surface tablets coming? (2)

na1led (1030470) | about 2 years ago | (#41671889)

Because these tablets are not x86 processors, there is ZERO chance to run any Windows Software on these things. Which means, it only runs Metro Apps, and exactly how does Microsoft's Metro Apps compete with iOS and Android? As well as HP's WebOS, and we all know how that turned out. I see another Fire-Sale around the corner.

No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (2)

tgmarks (2624405) | about 2 years ago | (#41671523)

I feel like this is the first product that finally removes the line. Even the best tablets before this didn't run the same OS and a laptop or desktop, and while the RT may be argued to not remove that difference, the Pro does. Not that the keyboard will be as good or the experience the same, but the product has finally arrived that removes the line. You can now install the same program file to your desktop, laptop, or tablet.

Re:No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (2)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about 2 years ago | (#41671767)

It's not the first tablet to do that. Microsoft tried the same idea back in 2004-2005 with Windows XP Tablet PC Edition. The technology was immature, the implementation sucked and the market was not ready.

As someone noted in the comments above there may be a business-user, business-app market this time around. I'm thinking about a user who realizes he needs to make some minor last minute edits to an Excel file and then update his Power point presentation to reflect those changes. That sort of stuff.

Re:No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671777)

Ballmer is most displeased with your recent shilling efforts, tgmarks. The agreement was to have this posted within the first minute of the article going live, wasn't it? This is not that hard; it has been done many times by many employed by our organization. He put a lot of trust in your ability to do this one simple task, and you betrayed that trust with your failure.

Our organization wishes to remind you, tgmarks, that we are aware of where you live, what you do, and the same of those who mean the most to you. So it is with appropriate levels of politeness that we make our first request that you be so kind as to report to Ballmer's throne room at once. You know it well from our initial meeting; it's the one with all the very heavy chairs, the ones that may hurt someone if they happened to be propelled at them at a high velocity...

Re:No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671789)

I feel like this is the first product that finally removes the line. Even the best tablets before this didn't run the same OS and a laptop or desktop, and while the RT may be argued to not remove that difference, the Pro does. Not that the keyboard will be as good or the experience the same, but the product has finally arrived that removes the line. You can now install the same program file to your desktop, laptop, or tablet.

Fantastic. Now every one of my electronic gadgets will equally be as shitty instead of having at least one decent one in a pile of shitty ones.

Re:No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#41671815)

What in the Shill-iverse are you saying?

Has this been what anybody is asking for? Oh, yeah! That's why netbooks prevented the iPad from getting any traction!

There's no real "tablet market" There's the iPad market, and there are eReaders. Everything else is marginal.

Re:No More Line Between Tablet & Laptop (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671821)

Tablets that ran Windows XP pre-date the iPad.

Heck there was even one that ran OSX before the iPad.

Running a desktop OS on a tablet has been more of a liability than an asses to tablet sales.

Time to pick one up! (5, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671525)

With the Metro interface we all love so much here on slashdot and of course being forced to use this wonderful browser! [youtube.com] '

What is there not to love?

Re:Time to pick one up! (1)

sasparillascott (1267058) | about 2 years ago | (#41671833)

That video was hilarious.

Re:Time to pick one up! (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#41671879)

IE9 on Windows.

What an abortion.

"Safe browsing" through blocking actions and pop-up notifications that interrupt 60% of user activity. I kept thinking "This is a Beta, right?"

Slashdot sucks Microsoft cock (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671527)

This post sponsored by Windows server 2012 and Ubuntu Amazon Search. Now buy some more smurfberries for your garden.

Slashdot, the original worst website. Reddit maybe more shit but Slashdot will always be the home of Taco snotting, goatse, hot grits, GNAA, trollkore and of course Microsoft Shills.

Don't forget to edit your HOSTs file and update your Firefox to the next version.

Squirt (5, Funny)

vlm (69642) | about 2 years ago | (#41671535)

How does this tablet Zune squirt? Is it available in brown?

Re:Squirt (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671637)

Please do not say squirt and brown together. Just wrong ...

Re:Squirt (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671717)

It's better than squirting green with red highlights.

Re:Squirt (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 2 years ago | (#41671873)

I would take that over squirting diarrhea anyday

Microsoft isn't targeting the iPad - they are (1)

ZaDeaux (647798) | about 2 years ago | (#41671645)

targeting the existing 1.3 billion Windows users.

Who will find out none of their Win7 software runs (5, Interesting)

guidryp (702488) | about 2 years ago | (#41671775)

targeting the existing 1.3 billion Windows users.

I wonder how many Windows users will mistakenly buy a Surface tablet expecting it to run their "Windows" application/gaming software.

Marketing fail (1)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | about 2 years ago | (#41671663)

Neither the Surface nor Windows 8 appear to be catching fire. They need market share, not some Marketeer's dimwitted idea of "perceived value." This price point guarantees failure.

Actually not completely dissapointed (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671667)

It remains to be seen exactly how this device works out, but with this new information It actually doesn't look like a complete failure at launch.

But not as an ipad competitor.

This device could appeal to people that want to bridge the gap between tablet (Modern, ipad or andriod like tablet - Not old convertable laptop tablet) and traditional windows platforms. Ipads and andriods suck hard at productivity applications. The surface, with office and other microsoft software, and sort-of-unification microsoft's platforms with win8, might actually be a good light use productivity tool.

As an ipad (or andriod tab) replacement? Hell no. Worst of both worlds. All the walled garden of apple and none of the flexiblity of andriod. No to mention an app and media store that's worth than either Google or Apple's.

Re:Actually not completely dissapointed (2)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 years ago | (#41671827)

I can do that now. In fact I have had a windows 8 tablet for 6 months now at close to that price point.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834680442 [newegg.com]

Installed Windows 8 beta on it and have been playing for months.

MS: Where "invention" = "imitation". lol (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671671)

I would say "I think they have to look up the definition of 'invent' again",
if MS had ever know the definition in the first place.

I can't stand Apple, but at least they are walking their own way. (Even though it's morally deeply utterly wrong way IMO.)
MS always either imitated... badly (and usually in a deliberately anticompetitive way)... or they just outright devoured the company (after killing it first, if possible).

This is just another case their a long list of FAIL.
At least nowadays, it hurts them.
But apparently, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, and so they never learn.

And Windows 8 is the nail in their coffin.
Good bye Microsoft. Nobody will miss you.

sh(it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671715)

before playiNg to going to continue, BE NIGGER! BE GAY! 3onsider worthwhile another cunting

Come on Apple haters... (4, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 years ago | (#41671735)

Start your bitching about how Microsoft is gouging for the extra SSD storage. ZOMG $100 for another 32 gig, I can buy 32 gig sd cards for $19.00! What a ripoff! ZOMG!

Re:Come on Apple haters... (1)

shutdown -p now (807394) | about 2 years ago | (#41671893)

Note that it does have an microSD card slot. With that in mind, the point of the 64 Gb version eludes me completely.

ma83 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41671819)

it's g0ing, [goat.cx]
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