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Eben Moglen Talks About Free Software in the Second of Two Video Interviews

Roblimo posted about 2 years ago | from the second-time's-a-charm dept.

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Yesterday we ran a video interview with Eben Moglen, who according to Wikipedia, "is a professor of law and legal history at Columbia University, and is the founder, Director-Counsel and Chairman of [the] Software Freedom Law Center." And as we also said yesterday, since 2011 he's been working with FreedomBox, a project working toward "a personal server running a free software operating system, with free applications designed to create and preserve personal privacy." Prof. Moglen is also one of the most polished speakers anywhere, on any topic, in our opinion. So please enjoy this second video of him speaking to (and answering questions from) Slashdot readers.

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Another Flashvertisement (4, Insightful)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 2 years ago | (#41708399)

So tell us again, what does Eben Moglen think about non-free software like Flash?

Obligatory Flash bitching thread (3, Funny)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#41708449)

Okay, everyone get it out of your system. Flash sucks, blah blah! Why couldn't they put it into HTML-5/Ogg/x264/whatever-the-fuck, blah blah? This won't work on my iThing and it makes Steve Jobs cry in heaven, blah blah. Everything should be DRM/proprietary-codec free, blah blah!

Okay, feel better?

Then, let's have at least a few posts to talk about the actual content (or, if need be, the lack thereof).

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (2)

Revotron (1115029) | about 2 years ago | (#41708513)

How about a thread discussing the ridiculous irony of posting a video about free software as a Flash object and providing no alternate means of viewing?

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41708573)

I doubt if the subject of the interview was asked. RMS would probably insist on a free format, but most folks wouldn't think of it.

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (1)

Spy Handler (822350) | about 2 years ago | (#41708593)

pssst... i can show you how you can get Flash for free. But don't tell anyone, it'll be our little secret.

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (1)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#41708621)

Free as in free of Flash cookies and other tracking garbage. Not free as in I'm too cheap to even bother installing/configuring an alternative.

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41711963)

gnash is an opensource alternative to Flash and it plays videos very well.

Or if you just want to run Flash without the tracking, symlink /dev/null to ~/.adobe and ~/.macromedia

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about 2 years ago | (#41713999)

Free as in free of Flash cookies and other tracking garbage. Not free as in I'm too cheap to even bother installing/configuring an alternative.

Call it 'Liberated', in that case, instead of Free. GP is correct!

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41708633)

THERE IS NO CONTENT BECAUSE MY SCREEN SAYS:

"You need to have the Adobe Flash Player to view this content."

!!!!!!!!

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41708671)

Plays just fine on my iPhone 5. *shrug*

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (1)

Guy Smiley (9219) | about 2 years ago | (#41713097)

Works fine on my iPhone 3GS with iOS 6.0. The special YouTube app is also gone in iOS 6, and one can view YouTube content directly in Safari. So either iOS 6 has flash video support, or the servers are offering it in a format that can play on devices w/o flash?

Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709781)

Why doesn't the parent get "-1 Troll"?
He obviously doesn't have a message besides not caring about anything, and free (as in freedom) and independent access to media.
Talking about access to media, and how we are dependent on entities witch have the power to restrict the media access as they wish.
As you know Adobe will not deliver new versions of Flash for GNU+Linux (other than the version for chrome).
Adobe can decide which people they allow to watch videos; That is a Free Software issue, but it is also an issue about freedom of information.

Re:Troll (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709859)

Then get a real OS you fucking faggot. Stop using that Linux shut.

Re:Troll (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41710327)

Once there was a time when some smart and thoughtful people posted comments on slashdot.
It seems that those days are gone and mostly an aggressive attitude, Republicans, fascists and Windows users have remained.

Besides that, you really should consider going to a psycho therapist as you are apparently not able to accept your sexual orientation [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Obligatory Flash bitching thread (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41711951)

If you really wanted to curtail the whining you'd have posted a link or torrent for a free and accessible copy of the video. I've just had a quick look but can't anything myself.

Fortunately, both parts received a transcript quickly enough so those that can't easily watch the videos can still discuss the content. I'd appreciate less bitching myself but when Slashdot says "Hey, here's a video interview of one of the greatest speakers in support of free software (only available to non-free software users)" they're asking for nothing short of a shitstorm.

You were expecting intelligent people discussing a software freedom interview whilst showing courtesy to one another and due respect for the interviewee? you must be new here.

Transcript? (2)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 2 years ago | (#41708663)

>> Prof. Moglen is also one of the most polished speakers anywhere, on any topic, in our opinion. So please..

Yes. I'm sure. He is. Says the forum who. Thinks Shatner is. One of the greatest. Actors ever.

Post the MF'ing transcript if you want us to consume the wisdom, please. We're in a hurry out here.

Re:Transcript? (1)

Roblimo (357) | about 2 years ago | (#41710439)

Post the MF'ing transcript if you want us to consume the wisdom, please. We're in a hurry out here.

The transcript is posted and was all along. You may need new glasses.

Not About Flash (3, Informative)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 2 years ago | (#41708739)

But about Slashdot's implementation of a Flash video player.

It doesn't work in my Firefox at all. Even with script-and flash-blockers turned off. In order to watch videos on Slashdot, I have to open Chrome or Safari, and watch them there. Because of course there is NO LINK to the original video anywhere, and Ooyala deliberately hides the video source in a plethora of flash and javascript.

Re:Not About Flash (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 2 years ago | (#41708755)

Really, I want to emphasize this, Slashdot: your video player implementation sucks. I said it before, and I will keep saying it unless and until you change it.

Re:Not About Flash (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41708775)

Hi Jane,

Really, I want to emphasize this: Slashdot doesn't give a fuck what you think, and neither do I, so why not SHUT THE FUCK UP, mmm-kay?

And seriously, don't you have some coffee to make or something?

works fine in my firefox (1)

Chirs (87576) | about 2 years ago | (#41708781)

on linux, even

Re:works fine in my firefox (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 2 years ago | (#41708835)

I'm on OS X. That could be the difference.

At first I thought it might be because I have Flash Local Storage turned off, but it works in Chrome and Safari.

It could be because I have HTTP local storage turned off in Firefox. But that is no excuse. The video player should not refuse to run just because I respect my own privacy.

Re:works fine in my firefox (1)

ddt (14627) | about 2 years ago | (#41710135)

Works for me fine on Mac OS (10.7.5) Firefox (16.0.1).

Re:works fine in my firefox (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 2 years ago | (#41712367)

Do you have Local Storage turned off?

Never, mind, that can't be it either, because it prompts you if a site wants to store something.

Must be something subtle in my configuration. How about 3rd party cookies, maybe?

I'm not getting any HTML or JavaScript errors. There are a boatload of CSS errors but there always are on Slashdot.

So even though I'm pretty good at tracking this kind of thing down, I haven't figured it out.

Re:works fine in my firefox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709935)

And on Windows.

Re:Not About Flash (1)

CamD (964822) | about 2 years ago | (#41711529)

https://code.google.com/p/get-flash-videos/ [google.com]
Cross-platform. It's in the Debian repository, possibly others.

To "stream" (in mplayer, by default):
$ get_flash_videos --play "$slashdot_url"

Seriously, why isn't Slashdot using Flowplayer or another "HTML5-first" player? Even YouTube would do...

Re:Not About Flash (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 2 years ago | (#41712381)

"Seriously, why isn't Slashdot using Flowplayer or another "HTML5-first" player? Even YouTube would do..."

That's what I suggested the last time. That they would probably be better off just ripping the FlowPlayer code from some porn site than this Ooyala-mutated wonder.

I hope he's right (1)

Lennie (16154) | about 2 years ago | (#41709193)

That they are going to be right in the end too.

Open systems, protocols and standards should be the norm. Preferable open source as well.

HTTPS Everywhere is not that great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709229)

A lot of sites do not properly implement HTTPS and HTTPS Everywhere redirects you to la-la land. Also, if a site's HTTPS stops working, you have to edit a config file, there's no way to stop the redirect that I have found. This software is a good idea, but needs more controls before mere mortals can use it easily.

Re:HTTPS Everywhere is not that great (1)

Onymous Coward (97719) | about 2 years ago | (#41712967)

Which sites are hosed by HTTPS Everywhere? I haven't run into any myself.

Re:HTTPS Everywhere is not that great (1)

MadMaverick9 (1470565) | about 2 years ago | (#41713081)

Or use DuckDuckGo for your searches:

At some other search engines (including us), you can also use an encrypted version (HTTPS), which as a byproduct doesn't usually send your search terms to sites. However, it is slower to connect to these versions and if you click on a site that also uses HTTPS then your search is sent. Nevertheless, the encrypted version does protect your search from being leaked onto the computers it travels on between you and us.

At DuckDuckGo, our encrypted version goes even further and automatically changes links from a number of major Web sites to point to the encrypted versions of those sites. It is modeled after (and uses code from) the HTTPS Everywhere FireFox add-on. These sites include Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon to name a few.

https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html [duckduckgo.com]

Now Mr Stallman - Where Is The FacePlug ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709671)

Mr Moglen obviously is not a technologist, so Mr Stallman should answer this one: Where is the simple-to-use social networking software that runs on the Personal-Always-Plugged-In ARM-based Linux machine ?

All I can see at the moment is the hardware, the OS and some thoughts about using TOR, which are perfectly fine. But what is needed is a simple-to-use alternative to the nasty invention of Suckerbug. He is 100% right to call it a giant spying operation. No doubt USG has been serving the Bitchmaster with tens of thousands of National Security Letters and no doubt he has complied with each any every one. So where is the much needed alternative ??

Re:Now Mr Stallman - Where Is The FacePlug ? (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about 2 years ago | (#41714009)

You mean GNU Network [gnu.org] ?

@Stallmann: Comprehensive Tech Program Required ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41709885)

FOSS, Uncensorable Search Engine: We all know Google essentially is the front office of NSA. We need a replacement that runs on the Freedom Plugs. YaCY (http://www.yacy.net/en/) is the right concept, though maybe lacking on the implementation side (it needs that filthy (because highly buggy) thing called Java)

FOSS distributed Web Email Service: Google entices people to carry their innermost secrets into some nasty datacenter ready for NSA and 25 other secret/do due process agencies inspection. Have fun with being seriously critical about USG and using G-mail. It's an abbreviation for Government Mail.

FOSS video, photo publishing service: Certainly the perverts of the government have already spent more than a billion to analyse people's youtube habits. Sleazy businessmen of the surveillance industry surely have "solutions" for that in their portfolios of nastiness. If every Freedom Plug user hosts 10 videos and if we have some kind of simple replication mechanism (for often watched videos), we would no longer need SpyTube.

Awesome! (1)

ddt (14627) | about 2 years ago | (#41709975)

Part 2 is even more awesomer than Part 1.

Thanks so much, Eben, for your time, service, and wisdom!

Put them on youtube please. (1)

bug1 (96678) | about 2 years ago | (#41710339)

I dont think Eben would want me to deliberatly fire up my windows computer just to watch his video.

Release the oggs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41710853)

Then we can /watch/ them with no problems, and we can /listen/ to them on portables.

You want to talk about Free Software? Great! You want the host, /., to look like a proponent? Great! The release the damn interview. It increases utility, which increases spread.

Hey Eben, how about next time you insist that the interview is released in a free form? And how about commenting on this, here and now, in the thread.

Flush the adobe flash turd! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41713185)

Fucking slashdot mental midgets!

Is there a transcript available .. (1)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#41715493)

Is there a transcript available, cause in lectures, I tend to nod off after five minutes ...
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