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All Five Star Trek Captains Share a Stage

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the there-are-four-captains dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Just after half past seven on the evening of Friday 19th October, history was made at the Destination Star Trek London event at the capital's ExCel centre; when Captains Archer (Scott Bakula), Janeway (Kate Mulgrew), Sisko (Avery Brooks), Picard (Patrick Stewart) and James T. Kirk (William Shatner) appeared together on a European stage. This momentous event, which had occurred just once before, at the Wizard World Comic Con in Philadelphia in June, not only lived up to the expectations of fans, but exceeded them by a good light-year."

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Pots Fritz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746483)

Now suck Reddit's cock.

Re:Pots Fritz (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746543)

romulans are dark elves and gay.

MySQL error (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746493)

One should not need SQL to present an article.

Re:MySQL error (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746579)

One should not need SQL to present an article.

One only need look to google web cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.shadowlocked.com/201210222869/features/captains-log-destination-star-trek-london.html

Re:MySQL error (0)

Tablizer (95088) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746835)

When you have thousands of articles, you start needing internal and external search, organization, classification, navigation, composition, and expiration-control schemes besides file trees.

Although, pre-render WCMS can often get a way with this because they "compile" the dynamic content to static pages on a periodic basis and upload to the production web server. But that has trade-offs.

Archer (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746501)

Does he even deserve to be called a Star Trek captain?

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746611)

Or Janeway? Really?

Re:Archer (4, Funny)

mosb1000 (710161) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746675)

The trouble with Janeway was that the writers seemed to think she should fill the role of the series' primary antagonist. Also, she was a bit of a micro-manager, essentially the Jimmy Carter of starship captains.

Re:Archer (0)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746709)

I can't watch voyager because of her. The arrogance in her voice grates on me enough to outweigh watching 7 of 9.

Re:Archer (4, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746735)

Well, can you name any other female leader roles that didn't seem arrogant to you? Excluding eye-candy actresses?

Re:Archer (5, Insightful)

mosb1000 (710161) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746887)

Can you name a StarTrek captain that didn't seem arrogant to you? I'm pretty sure that's a job requirement. Providing episodes with story-lines by working against the interests of her crew, however, is not a job requirement, and it's curious they cast her in that role. It makes a situation where we're rooting against her instead of for her.

I suppose she was meant to contrast with Sisko, who was willing to break pretty much any rule for the benefit of his crew or society in general. In one episode he collaborates with Garak, who eventually assassinates a member of the Romulan high council to bring them into the war. In the end of the episode he concludes that he'd do it again. Janeway, on the other hand, have never met a rule she didn't like. At one point she happily complies with the rules of an alien society and foregoes an opportunity to cut 50 years off of their journey! The conclusion you can draw is that following rules is only for people who hate themselves and hate everyone else.

Re:Archer (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746945)

Ok, I'll play the asshole. I liked Janeway, second only to Picard.

She came across as an authority figure, like a captain should, without falling into the trap most writers do with "strong" female roles... just making them bitches.

Sisko wasn't a captain like the rest and Kirk was just obnoxious, but he gets a pass for being the original. Picard is, of course, the captain.

Re:Archer (2)

Nostromo21 (1947840) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747157)

Picard was a dweeb & well past his due date start of season 1 lol! (only time I got a sense of real authority from him was when he was Locutus, eh).

Now Worf - he could have made a fine captain I tell ya!

Re:Archer (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747597)

Janeway's rule following didn't bother me. It seems to be the natural character of a woman in that sort of position of power, at least in my experience. Picard had a stick up his ass the first couple of seasons but that seems somewhat fitting for a his position too. However, he had mellowed out quite a bit by the end of TNG and was much more charismatic to me by then. Now Riker...i would hate to serve under his ass. Yeah, he was a cool, laid-back, easy-going fella most of the time but when things got tense and everyone was under pressure, he would angrily bark orders at people like they were dumbasses. Sisko was always my favorite. His temperament always seemed appropriate for whatever situation he was in (except when dealing with Picard in the pilot episode). He was smart but not cerebral. He was thoughtful and considerate but in a manly way. He is the only captain that never did or acted in a way that seemed ridiculous to me. Kirk is cool. All there is to it...except for a scene in Star Trek The Motion Picture. It was early in the movie. He told some young ensign to get out of the way like she was incompetent and took over the beam-in controls. The person being beamed-in died. He got this look on his face like "oh. i fscked up. did anybody see?" LOL other than that one scene, he was always cool-headed and wise enough to sit back, trust his people, and let them do their jobs. Archer was a likable guy but there were some instances where he suffered from Janeway-rule-following and angry temper-tantrums that just didn't seem in-line with his character and too forced. They're all great actors. The problems i have with any of them i believe stem from the writing/directing of those particular scenes...except with Riker. I think Jonathan Frakes over-did it on his own sometimes. Then again, all real characters will have their own unique quirks and flaws.

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747027)

The only female prime minister of Canada wasn't particularly arrogant, just stupid, but that goes with the territory.

Re:Archer (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747067)

Troi was rarely arrogant, although sometimes somewhat preachy - I like that in a psychologist. She was, especially in the later seasons, among the calmer, most professionally behaved characters.

Beverly Crusher was, for my money, the sexiest woman on TV due to her BRAINS - she kept her head cool in many instances when everyone else was going apeshit. She became my hero when she willed her hallucinations away in "Night Terrors" - that appeal to reason is one of the core values of humanistic Star Trek.

Does the physical beauty of characters make their arguments invalid? If so you fall in the same trap as jocks do, and you should turn in your nerd card: looks, good or otherwise, do not make a person. I never felt that TNG was trying to sell itself to me via sex appeal. It simply did not need to. Voyager, on the other hand....

Re:Archer (1)

Nostromo21 (1947840) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747119)

He's just sore that she has bigger balls than him (& most of the other ST captains! :).

If you're looking for annoying in Voyager, you don't have to look past Neelix. Him I could have done without, or with a whole lot less.

And Voyager is my favourite ST series. There I said it. *duck & dodge*

Re:Archer (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747379)

Neelix is the Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek.

Re:Archer (1)

Chrutil (732561) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747831)

Neelix is the Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek.

Now where's that "+1 so true" mod when you need it?

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746761)

At least the developers of Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force knew to put her into as little of the game as possible. Actually most of the series cast was pushed to second fiddle in terms of the plot, which was a good thing.

Re:Archer (4, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746795)

Hmmm . . . not quite right . . .

I can't watch voyager because of her. The arrogance in her voice grates on me enough to outweigh watching 36 of D.

. . . that's better . . .

Re:Archer (1)

hottoh (540941) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747437)

Her annoying voice and otherwise being very un-captian like kept me from finishing season one.

I can still here her say "Toovaakk" Ick.

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746815)

She also suffered from the Avatar effect.
Crewmember: I studied astrophysics for twelve years and I think we should reverse the polarity of the neutron beam
Janeway: Yes. If confurgle the finthing through the Weber-Armstrong matrix we will achiev 12 kilojoules of rubitation.

Re:Archer (1)

godrik (1287354) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747565)

The trouble with Janeway was everything, from the sound of her voice, to how she was written, passing through her acting. She was the worse character of all star trek. (Yes including wesley crusher who save the enterprise 50 times in season 1 of TNG)

Re:Archer (2)

fm6 (162816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747693)

I don't get the "primary antagonist" part. As for "micromanager", isn't that true of all five? If they say, "Huh, I need to spend some time actually running the ship, I'll delegate this to Ensign Reshirt" then the series lead actor has almost no screen time for that episode, and the economics of TV doesn't allow for that.

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747829)

Are you essentially the knob gobbler of commenters?

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747871)

Jimmy Carter never Micro-managed... you need a new News Source FoxNews is not doing you any favors

Re:Archer (1)

SilverJets (131916) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747079)

Does he even deserve to be called a Star Trek captain?

Well he's more of a Star Trek captain than COMMANDER Sisko.

Re:Archer (1)

All_One_Mind (945389) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747241)

He was promoted to Captain in, I think, season 5.

Re:Archer (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747671)

Captain of the space mall? Good for him... only took five years.

Re:Archer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747949)

"Enterprise" was ten times better than that 2001 a space opera bullshit hotel space station deep space 9. What a load of unbridled horse shit that was. And it was definitely better than what Voyager turned itself into. My only complaint with "Enterprise" was the lame doctor part. And I'll admit that part could have ruined it for many.

Look, nothing against Star Trek... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746511)

...but I think that only counts as "history" in the very loosest sense.

Patrick Stewart's refusal to pose (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746513)

Why did Patrick Stewart refuse to pose with the others for the press photo?

Five? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746521)

There are only 2. I don't get what this whole article is talking about.

Re:Five? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746547)

There are only 2. I don't get what this whole article is talking about.

OK, one is Dylan Hunt (Kevin Sorbo), but who is the other one?

Re:Five? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746593)

There are only 2. I don't get what this whole article is talking about.

OK, one is Dylan Hunt (Kevin Sorbo), but who is the other one?

That must be Captain Pirk (Samuli Torssonen).

Very nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746529)

Wish I could that kind of stuff on TV over here in US.

The two they left behind (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746533)

They're forgetting Jeffery Hunter and Bruce Greenwood. They were also captains of the enterprise, albeit for one episode. Some will say they don't count , but being an captain is worthy of recognition.

Re:The two they left behind (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746563)

Bruce Greenwood

Nothing against him, but I'd rather pretend JJ Trek never happened.

Re:The two they left behind (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746669)

Don't forget that female gal from the Ent-C when Tasha Yar went into the past to become Sela's mother.

I'm sure someone more Trek-nerdy than I will have her name or at least ST wiki it for us :)

Re:The two they left behind (2)

Altanar (56809) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747005)

Feel free. Just don't ever expect to have another pre-Abrams style Star Trek movie ever again. I don't think Paramount will ever forget that the JJ Abrams "Star Trek" is the most popular, highest grossing movie in the series. (Grossing more than First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis combined. $336m vs $385m)

Re:The two they left behind (1)

AuMatar (183847) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747071)

I'd rather have trek dead that that abomination. It's time for some new series anyway. It was great, but it's time is past.

Re:The two they left behind (1)

camperdave (969942) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747217)

I agree there. The plot could have been made a whole lot more palatable if they'd used the Guardian of Forever to "reboot" rather than <shudder>red matter<shudder>.

The main problem is that, for some inexplicable reason, Paramount does not use Star Trek fans to make Star Trek.

Re:The two they left behind (2)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747439)

The main problem is that, for some inexplicable reason, Paramount does not use Star Trek fans to make Star Trek.

The reason, unfortunately, is that all the fans of star trek can not bring in the same money as the current target audience does, thus trek is made for the undereducated masses that don't even care in passing about trek :/

Re: Abrams Style (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747453)

The whole Vulcans as Lost Souls thing was completely skipped over. That is terrifying from the point of view of Trek Canon. The Vulvcans were the total Deus Ex Vulcan Fix-It when everyone was totally screwed and needed one man without iron in his blood and mind melds and all that. Now with however many of them left from a dead race, it's veering towards Star Wars and the last Jedi.

However bad the Canon got after 40-50 years, you just can't do that and pretend it's still Star Trek as normal.

Bonus Points to anyone who makes a Star Trek - Abrams Style video.

Re:The two they left behind (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747659)

i just don't like the new spock...at least, not yet. i'm waiting for the next JJ Trek movie before making my final decision.

Re:The two they left behind (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747081)

May I ask why? I've liked pretty much every Star Trek Series, though certainly not every episode or movie, and I really liked the new Star Trek movie (which I was fully prepared to hate as much as Highlander 2). I don't get why some people go all fanboi on something, nor why there's so much hate for other things that maybe aren't great, but certainly aren't travesties. I can't tell if you just dislike the movie, or really hate it, but I'm curious either way.

Re:The two they left behind (1)

MachDelta (704883) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747147)

Out of curiosity (and at the risk of opening a huge can of worms), and as someone who has enjoyed most interpretations of Star Trek but was never moved to the point of obsession or "trekkie" status... what was wrong with that movie? I liked it a lot.

Re:The two they left behind (3, Interesting)

arth1 (260657) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747919)

They're forgetting Jeffery Hunter and Bruce Greenwood.

Why leave out Sean Kenney from the Pike actors?

According to what I can find out, the full list of Enterprise captains, not counting alternate realities, cartoons, non-crewmembers like Bele, Khan, Q or Moriarty taking over, nor the 2009 travesty are:

NCC-1701:
Robert April: James Doohan, Gene Roddenberry
Christopher Pike: Jeffrey Hunter, Sean Kenney, Bruce Greenwood
James Tiberius Kirk: William Shatner
Willard Decker: Stephen Collins
Spock: Leonard Nimoy (mutiny)

NCC-1701-A:
James Tiberius Kirk: William Shatner

NCC-1701-B:
John Harriman: Alan Ruck
Demora Sulu: Jacqueline Kim

NCC-1701-C:
Rachel Garrett: Tricia O'Neil
Richard Castillo: Christopher McDonald

NCC-1701-D:
Jean-Luc Picard: Patrick Stewart
William T. Riker: Jonathan Frakes
Edward Jellico: Ronny Cox
Guinan: Whoopi Goldberg
Wesley Crusher: Wil Wheaton (mutiny)

NCC-1701-E:
Jean-Luc Picard: Patrick Stewart

Honorable mention to the Enterprise OV-101 captains:
Fred Haise: Himself
Joseph Henry Engle: Himself

"Five", not "All Five" (1)

syntap (242090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746537)

What about Kirk from re-image, and wasn't Sulu a captain? I'm not even counting Spock, just thinking bridge captains that played major roles. Yeah Sulu didn't play a major role as a bridge captain but certainly played a rather large role up to that point.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746571)

Well, I suppose they could have said "All Five Principle Actors who played Captains in a singular Trek television series" but that's a bit mouthy, and only the mindlessly pedantic get upset over such technicalities.

There's a lot more important things to worry about, such as comparing the number of ships in the US Navy today to the number they had after WW1.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746625)

Or comparing the number of horses the US Army has today to WW1. Only an idiot would think the number of any given vehicle in any given military over the course of the last century is a meaningful metric.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746665)

The comment subject is correct. If someone didn't want "any given vehicle" was a useless metric then they wouldn't write "all vehicles". Get it?

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746899)

In that case, the context is clearly explaining why it's invalid to worry about a bare metric.

Apologies if you missed the intent.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (1)

Ichijo (607641) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746631)

Sisko didn't even have a bridge, just an operations center ("ops"). He had a bridge on the Defiant, but so did Worf in First Contact.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (1)

godrik (1287354) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746651)

Though I think Sisko had the grade of captain in the last seasons of DS9.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746863)

Did we all forget Jerk Jerk A's Ensign commander of the flag ship of star fleet, version of a Captain. From thinking from the gut big mouth bar brawler, to cheating cadet on to "saviour of the universe", 'er', Federation of Planets 'er' excluding Vulcan but hey who needed those boring logical dudes they think too much ;D.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747025)

He was promoted to Captain at the end of the third season.

Re:"Five", not "All Five" (1)

Martin Blank (154261) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746765)

Spock was the bridge captain in Khan, but gave up that role to Adm. Kirk when they were sent to check on Regula I. He played a major role in the story, though not as bridge captain.

When all five Star Trek captains share a stage (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746551)

That's October 19th.

Captain Pike? (4, Informative)

Kittenman (971447) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746589)

The one who came before Kirk in the original series pilot. Last I saw he was either cavorting with a lady in his imagination or in a bad wheelchair, going "beep beep" (no) over and over.

Re:Captain Pike? (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746615)

The one who came before Kirk in the original series pilot. Last I saw he was either cavorting with a lady in his imagination or in a bad wheelchair, going "beep beep" (no) over and over.

I heard he got hired for the Davros role in Doctor Who...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros [wikipedia.org]

Re:Captain Pike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746671)

Kelsey grammar? Cameron from feris beullers day off (ent B)? Johnathon frakes?

Re:Captain Pike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746837)

Common misintrpetation, later clarified by south park years later.
Beep,beep (yes,yes)
Both classics i say.

Too Cool, but let's hope Avery Brooks... (1)

mackil (668039) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746643)

... actually shows up [startrek.com] unlike he did in The Captains [imdb.com].

Re:Too Cool, but let's hope Avery Brooks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746711)

This [whatculture.com] probably gives a better idea of what you're talking about then your link. At least for those who haven't seen The Captains.

Re:Too Cool, but let's hope Avery Brooks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746893)

This event has already happened. So yes, he actually showed up.

Re:Too Cool, but let's hope Avery Brooks... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747817)

I actually enjoyed "The Captains", which happens to be streamable on Netflix [netflix.com] if anyone is curious. Not that it qualifies as high cinema by any stretch of the imagination...

Sure, Shatner plays Shatner - but still it was fun. I especially got a kick out of Avery Brooks turning out to be some sort of beatnik professor in real life. And Kate Mulgrew did seem capable of throwing Shatner off his game a bit.

Plus the editing in the convention scenes sure made it look like Shatner was having a bit of fun at his own expense.

Serious Question re: History (3)

dreamchaser (49529) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746693)

How is it history if it has already happened once before?

Re:Serious Question re: History (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746871)

Most of History consists of things that have happened before. Recent history especially so.

Re:Serious Question re: History (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746947)

It happened in the past...

All 5? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746733)

Guess you forgot Jeffrey Hunter, (Cpt. Christopher Pike, original captain of the Star Trek Enterprise BEFORE they brought in that giant ham Shatner,) whomever played Cpt. Decker, who was the ship's captain at the beginning of Star Trek the Motion Picture, and Cpt. Spock, who was later, also it's captain, and commanded the ship and her crew as the regularly assigned commanding officer, (not a temporary or acting captain), not to mention anyone else I've forgotten. 5 out of 8 or more is not "ALL", so as Shatner himself once said, "Get a life!"

Deep Space 9 had a captain? (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746739)

Why? They never went anywhere. The main thing he said would have been along the lines of

Don't go anywhere - continue to be right here!

Re:Deep Space 9 had a captain? (1)

tverbeek (457094) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746803)

It may surprise you to learn that "captain" is also a rank, not just a job description.

Best "Deranged" Captain... (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#41746791)

Am I the only one who remembers the great William Windom? Anybody? I swear, you kids today...

http://www.treknews.net/2012/08/20/william-windom-dies-at-88/ [treknews.net]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=9djuORzi9rU [youtube.com]

Re:Best "Deranged" Captain... (2)

camperdave (969942) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747397)

Um... Commodore Decker was a Commodore, not a Captain. That's why they called him Commodore.

Picard should have been a Commodore. There are a couple of episodes where he is commanding a flotilla of ships.

Star Wars Icon (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746819)

Why is there an R2D2 icon for this story? Dafuq?

the site is already /.ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41746969)

It's not just you! http://www.shadowlocked.com looks down from here.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.shadowlocked.com/201210222869/features/captains-log-destination-star-trek-london.html

Arguably the most important Enterprise Captain... (3, Informative)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747169)

...was Rachel Garrett (played by Tricia O'Neil), captain of the NCC-1701-C. Her decision to sacrifice her ship and crew averted all-out war with the Klingons, saved the Federation and saved billions of lives. That's a tough act to follow.

Re:Arguably the most important Enterprise Captain. (0)

Guru80 (1579277) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747285)

Most important? Maybe I suppose but that's speculating on what happened after they died without knowing what would have happened had they not. A great Captain would have managed to do all that and brought crew and ship home, a little worse for wear but kicking. Sacrificing yourself is the relatively easier road here. *Not a trekky by any means so take it for what it is.

Re:Arguably the most important Enterprise Captain. (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747519)

I seem to recall that she was killed and that a lieutenant junior grade in her command was the one who had to take the ship back in time in an act of self-sacrifice to prevent all-out war with the Klingons in the future. Pfft. Everyone knows that.

<_<

>_>

Oh, okay, who am I kidding? I just looked it up on memory-alpha. *throws up hands*

The best captain? (1)

SuperMooCow (2739821) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747221)

Well, that would be the Emergency Command Hologram, of course!

Anyone who disagrees will be disintegrated by the photonic canon!

The TFA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41747359)

It's dead Jim...

What's CloudFlare? (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year and a half ago | (#41747965)

"This website uses CloudFlare in order to help keep it online when the server is down by serving cached copies of pages when they are unavailable. Unfortunately, a cached copy of the page you requested is not available, but you may be able to reach other cached pages on the site."

FAIL

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