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Hurricane Sandy Nears East Coast

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the take-cover dept.

Science 281

An anonymous reader writes "Scientists have been following and projecting Sandy's path with all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also gathers information from special reconnaissance aircraft, which fly over hurricanes and can drop instruments into them to measure wind speeds, air pressure, temperature, and altitude. The latest data gathered on Hurricane Sandy point to an unprecedented and mighty tempest, scientists say." A couple of our East Coast offices are closed today and people have been told to work from home. Please share your storm stories, and updates while you still have internet access.

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strip forp (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802815)

storm porp hotp aps

Amazon (5, Funny)

GeneralTurgidson (2464452) | about 2 years ago | (#41802829)

I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)

Don't PANIC! (4, Funny)

arcite (661011) | about 2 years ago | (#41802991)

God is just visiting New York to cast his early voting ballot.

Re:Don't PANIC! (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 2 years ago | (#41803183)

Don't forget to bring a towel. Proper towel safety and use is important.

Re:Don't PANIC! (3, Funny)

eternaldoctorwho (2563923) | about 2 years ago | (#41803297)

God dammit, Towelie, you're the worst character ever.

Re:Don't PANIC! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803637)

Your face is the worst character ever.

Re:Don't PANIC! (3, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41803681)

Don't panic, it's HHGTG, not South Park.

Re:Don't PANIC! (3, Interesting)

gameboyhippo (827141) | about 2 years ago | (#41803785)

We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!

In all seriousness, if a storm does do significant damage to an area right before/at an election, what do we do? Is this a constitutional crises?

divine punishment (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802833)

We are being punished because of Obama.

Re:divine punishment (-1, Troll)

idji (984038) | about 2 years ago | (#41802849)

No, you are being punished for your energy sins and raping the earth for the last 100 year and Obama is your Messiah.

Re:divine punishment (4, Funny)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#41802915)

No, we're being rewarded by having very mild storms compared to many of the other planets in our solar system.

Re:divine punishment (3, Funny)

JustOK (667959) | about 2 years ago | (#41802997)

What's the weather like on Kolob?

Re:divine punishment (1)

jovius (974690) | about 2 years ago | (#41803529)

Democracy at its finest. Everybody gets pummeled.

Re:divine punishment (1)

Metabolife (961249) | about 2 years ago | (#41803867)

Neptune sounds a lot worse. "These weather patterns are driven by the strongest sustained winds of any planet in the Solar System, with recorded wind speeds as high as 2,100 kilometres per hour (1,300 mph)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune [wikipedia.org]

Re:divine punishment (4, Insightful)

Coisiche (2000870) | about 2 years ago | (#41802923)

Well, it could be spun for or against either candidate.

That's the problem with self-styled religious oracles claiming omens, it's always down to their personal agenda and there's nothing divine about that. The simple truth is that shit happens and the universe is indifferent.

cause and effect (5, Interesting)

tverbeek (457094) | about 2 years ago | (#41803025)

It isn't so much a religious omen as a lesson in scientific cause and effect. Neither of the top two presidential candidates has been talking much lately about what's causing this sort of thing, but one of them (Romney) is promising not to do anything about it. If you can make it to the polls, keep that in mind.

Re:cause and effect (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803177)

Weather changes over time, and if you look at more than trumped up data from the past 50 years modeled to support an agenda, you'd see that it's happened before and has been happening for a long time. Long before the industrial revolution, long before coal burning generators, long before nuclear power, long before gas guzzling automobiles, and I could go on and on. The fact is that the air is much cleaner today than it was when the masses of civilization were burning open fires every night for light and warmth, and burning cities to the ground everytime they had a disagreement. Furthermore, I've seen no study that honestly correlates pollution with severe weather. The studies I have seen have once again targeted specific data, ignoring what doesn't support the theory, and making connections which have no scientific basis. What you've got with global warming is not cause and effect, because it ignores pertent data and relies on data that has been fabricated. So that being the case I'd prefer that the president focus on real issues like fixing the economy, cutting government spending (especially on non-issues like global warming), and protecting our nation (that is what the government's original job was after all).

Re:cause and effect (1)

bhcompy (1877290) | about 2 years ago | (#41803223)

Which is why I like living on the West Coast. There's no global warming equivalent for earthquakes. No herp in this derp. Thank Jesus.

Re:cause and effect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803397)

If I were in your shoes I'll hold the praises a little. A couple of degrees more in the magma in the mantle may result in more volcano and some action in that pesky crust floating in top of it.

Re:cause and effect (1)

Atzanteol (99067) | about 2 years ago | (#41803811)

Even climate scientists will tell you that there is no way to prove this is a result of AGW - nor is it even agreed upon as a potential result of AGW (increased warming increases wind shear which may actually *decrease* the number of hurricanes - but those which do happen may be stronger - it's unsettled).

no its mitt romney health care plan that sick kids (1, Insightful)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#41803197)

no its mitt romney health care plan that under sick kids can get blacked listed for life and for his link to Richard Mourdock views on RAPE.

Re:no its mitt romney health care plan that sick k (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803609)

Kill the baby because dad is a rapist? That's a sick POV.

Wall St. Closed (5, Interesting)

necro81 (917438) | about 2 years ago | (#41802835)

Interesting factoid I heard on my way into work: all the major banks and trading centers in New York City are closed today in anticipation. The last time that happened due to weather was for Hurricane Gloria back in 1985. Given the fact that Wall St. is just a few blocks from the water on three sides, and all of about 5 feet above sea level (depending on the tides), I'm surprised it isn't more frequent than that.

Re:Wall St. Closed (5, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 2 years ago | (#41802909)

In unrelated news, the crime rate in New York is down dramatically today, as the number of frauds committed dropped dramatically.

Re:Wall St. Closed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803103)

Hey. Maybe they work from home also ...

Re:Wall St. Closed (1, Funny)

ciderbrew (1860166) | about 2 years ago | (#41803341)

" "WORK" - "FROM" - "HOME" " Or as I call it "Toss yourself into a froth as soon as the missus leaves the house".

Re:Wall St. Closed (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802919)

Post some pics of that tidal way from your office. If you can, catch the moment when it covers the Statue of Liberty. I want to compare the real thing to all those movies and see which is more realistic.

Re:Wall St. Closed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802959)

Commuter trains, subways and buses are shut down. It's not that easy to get to work in Manhattan unless you live nearby. One of my offices is closed, another is advising to work from home unless you can safely get to work.

Re:Wall St. Closed (2)

DerekLyons (302214) | about 2 years ago | (#41802999)

North of Baltimore (roughly) hurricanes coming onshore are pretty rare... But if you're not prepared/built for it, even a Class I hurricane can handle you pretty roughly.

Re:Wall St. Closed (4, Insightful)

Miamicanes (730264) | about 2 years ago | (#41803339)

Exactly. Imagine the mess South Florida would have if a freak winter storm dumped 2 inches of real mid-afternoon snow on downtown Miami and the surrounding 3 counties, and it kept coming down all night so that we woke up the next morning to a city where every road was impassable to anything less than a SUV or truck, seriously dangerous regardless, and every vehicle that was outside overnight had ice crusted over the windshield wipers. We'd have people getting electrocuted trying to melt ice on the windshield with blow dryers (until the weight of the ice caused the power lines to fall down), and I shudder to imagine the carnage on I-95 and 836 when drivers who can't even avoid accidents during afternoon rainstorms suddenly had to deal with ICE.

A category 1 hurricane making landfall in South Florida is like a "Snow Day" in Cleveland or Buffalo -- work from home today, limp and tipetoe around tomorrow, life as normal on day 3. An afternoon snowstorm that persists into the night would shut down South Florida for almost a week, and probably cause more deaths than a landfalling hurricane.

Re:Wall St. Closed (5, Interesting)

EvilSS (557649) | about 2 years ago | (#41803699)

I don't have to imagine that. A little farther north than Miami, but I remember Christmas of, I believe it was 1989, we had an inch of ice followed by about two inches of snow in Jacksonville, FL. Entire city had to shut down and people were stranded for up to a week because all the bridges had to be closed. There was nothing the road department could do. They didn't have the equipment to deal with it. Of course as a kid, I thought it was awesome.

Re:Wall St. Closed (2)

cod3r_ (2031620) | about 2 years ago | (#41803043)

Sweet! Economy will start to function normally then. Hopefully power is out for a few days we might just get right out of this economic crisis.

Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802839)

I'm in central Virginia. Every school and government office is closed today. Sustained winds are under 5mph and it's not raining. If the point of all of this was to get people to wet themselves over a category 1 storm, congratulations, mission accomplished.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (5, Insightful)

MickyTheIdiot (1032226) | about 2 years ago | (#41802853)

It doesn't take long for the second guessers to arrive, does it?

Sometimes they even show up too early.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (2)

ClintJCL (264898) | about 2 years ago | (#41803015)

True, but here in VA every hurricane has been way overstated. Andrew closed everything and it literally was not even wet afterward. Yea, in 2005, no water for a week, but I didn't run out of water from my normal stock anyway. You know what fucked us up? The derecho -- more than anything in my life. And there was no warning for that. Most people didn't have power for a week, though I only lost it for 5 minutes (no internet for 12 hrs was the ahrd part). So having lived here 38 yrs, I've learned that the panic is generally greater than the actual threat. ... so my bet is on the second-guessers.

The hurricanes last year put a stick on my roof. Possibly did knock a knot loose in my roof. Finally patched up the rot that caused Friday in anticipation for today's storm... And that's the most preparation ever.

Here's some random pictures of past hurricane 'damage' at my house inside the DC beltway, VA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/clintjcl/tags/hurricane [flickr.com]

Now.... Even if I'm usually right on this, that doesn't mean I'm always right... But I hope I am, cause y'know, I don't want a tree to fall on me. Our cars are currently in the school parking lot, away from the trees....

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803263)

You know what fucked us up? The derecho — more than anything in my life.

Yup, Taco Bell is some bad shit; goes straight through ya.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

colfer (619105) | about 2 years ago | (#41803479)

Extreme combo of crying wolf and actual superlatives. The reliably sober NOAA is cited by Reuters, "It could be the largest storm to hit the United States." Its official NWS prediction is for a "major to historic" NYC flood. On the other hand, NYC has stranded million of subway riders 24 hrs. ahead of the predicted surge. Here on the edge of the storm in Virginia, the university that used to pride itself on never cancelling classes has indeed cancelled because parents can't work because the grade schools are closed because...

Rain. High near 51. Breezy, with a northwest wind 18 to 24 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

AliasBackslash (2719011) | about 2 years ago | (#41803541)

I'm in Richmond now, however I was in Newport News for Isabel a while back. Lost power for 15 days and a tree fell on my house after being struck by lightning. Andrew, Floyd, and Irene though, were heavily overstated.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

thomasw_lrd (1203850) | about 2 years ago | (#41803679)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/italian-scientists-charged-laquila-earthquake?newsfeed=true [guardian.co.uk]

Doesn't anyone remember this story? There is a reason they overstate it. If they understate and lots of people die, then they are going to be bitched at. If they overstate it, and you get a gentle fall rain, everybody is going to bitch about, but at least a lynch mob won't be out for their heads.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

gman003 (1693318) | about 2 years ago | (#41803871)

I've been in VA for about two decades now (central VA - Chesterfield and Richmond). Pretty much every year or two, there's a hurricane that knocks out power for a few days.

The worst was Hurricane Isabel. After that, I didn't have mains power for a month (thank god for generators). Schools were closed for weeks. Four different trees - big trees, three stories high - fell over just in my yard, and that got off pretty light compared to some of my neighbors. Last year, Irene knocked out power for five days.

So yeah, right now Sandy doesn't seem to be doing much to Virginia (just some light rain), but the forecasts weren't really putting it towards Virginia anyways - it was expected to hit further north, up by New Jersey. But one can hardly say that Virginia never gets hit hard by hurricanes.

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802857)

You do realize the storm didn't get there yet, right?

Re:Uhhh.... This is it? (1)

retroworks (652802) | about 2 years ago | (#41802875)

It sounded even more ridiculous yesterday. So from those two data points, let's plan a picnic.

Ollie Williams reports (5, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 2 years ago | (#41802861)

It's raining sideways! [youtube.com]

Re:Ollie Williams reports (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#41803755)

That's normal in a hurricane. [slashdot.org] If you want to know what's scarier, a hurricane or a tornado, the above link is a first-hand account of both.

Prepared (5, Funny)

areusche (1297613) | about 2 years ago | (#41802877)

Room mates got a little nutty with the disaster preparedness. I took it a step further and bought a cooler, bag of ice, and a 24 pack of Corona. Bring it Sandy!

Re:Prepared (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802897)

a 24 pack of Corona.

Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?

Re:Prepared (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803201)

Yes, all they have is canned water (aka Bud Light)

Re:Prepared (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803207)

no no no, you've got it all wrong you only drink water after you're out of beer.

Re:Prepared (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803361)

So, he needs to get a pack of beer to drink before he gets to that Corona-branded water.

Re:Prepared (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803421)

Damn right, boiled beer is atrocious so make sure you drank it first.

Re:Prepared (3, Insightful)

cffrost (885375) | about 2 years ago | (#41803309)

a 24 pack of Corona

Granted, Corona is pretty reliable, but aren't cyanide capsules a more humane way of dispatching oneself?

Technology zilch compared to nature (3, Insightful)

jkrise (535370) | about 2 years ago | (#41802889)

all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.

At times like these, the only technology is that which helps in mass exodus, plain and simple values like sharing and caring; and them coming back to pick up the pieces all over again.

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802927)

Or solid construction, water diversion, and water-proofing.

But I suppose all that matters to you is that we're not dropping an atomic bomb to disrupt the Hurricane.

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803451)

Or solid construction, water diversion, and water-proofing.

Obviously, you don't live anywhere there's been a hurricane in your lifetime.

The term "wall of water" is not an exaggeration. Depending on the variables above, you may see twenty feet of water moving steadily ashore. A slow-moving tsunami. Can you build to survive that? Sure, but doing so goes way beyond "solid construction." You basically have to build a bunker, and then mount that bunker 25 feet above sea level on top of concrete pilings sunk deep enough into the sand that they won't wash away. (At least, not for a few decades.)

Real tropical cyclones (not this pissant Sandy) make our pitiful concrete human-huts look like anthills. Sensible people accept that and leave town and rebuild later.

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803641)

Sorry, but I've been through three Hurricanes in the past 10 years.

And no, I wasn't dumb enough to live on the beach, or near the water. Though yes, we can build around that wall of water, if it's worth it.

For me? Of course it wasn't, but it wouldn't be worth it to me to live anywhere near the water. I was much happier inland, and that reduced the costs considerably. Even the trees landing on the house didn't mean much, nor did I need to board up my windows. Because I built them properly.

Besides, I know people who left town during storms. All they ended up getting was stuck in lines of traffic for hours and going nowhere.

The only thing that upset me through the process was the loss of power. Which also could have been avoided if somebody had invested in underground utilities for my neighborhood.

But no, no, we couldn't do that, it would cost too much.

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0, Troll)

Errol backfiring (1280012) | about 2 years ago | (#41802933)

all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.

All the scientist in the world and all their tools will not help anything if you insist of reaping the planet. The technology is not exactly zilch compared to nature. On the contrary, all the technology made nature fight back. The world has a fever and WE are the microbes causing the disease.

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802957)

What a bizarre worldview. Kind of pantheistic, I guess?

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803049)

It's called an "analogy".

Re:Technology zilch compared to nature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803159)

Yes, but also nature is nothing compared to human stupidity.

I mean, seriously, why do so many people decide to live in major Earthquake zones, on flood planes and so forth?

It seems humanity excels at populating some of the most stupid places to populate going.

and the band played on. (3, Insightful)

rickb928 (945187) | about 2 years ago | (#41802893)

Since most of my family is up in that part of the nation, thru are getting the for measure of fright. but for the NY and Maryland regions, this is more about the water. Manhattan will be in a position similar to NO, except no river, just storm surge, and not as many pumps.

And sustained wind.

Re:and the band played on. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803567)

... thru are getting the for measure of fright. ...

WTF did I just read???

Re:and the band played on. (3, Funny)

Alien Being (18488) | about 2 years ago | (#41803779)

I wish I knew. Apparently it's quite insightful.

In New York City (5, Informative)

sticky.pirate (1114263) | about 2 years ago | (#41802895)

My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home, and the subway and buses have been shut down since 7pm Sunday evening. Right now (8:30am Monday) we've got some small wind gusts and scattered rain.

If you're working from home... (5, Funny)

arcite (661011) | about 2 years ago | (#41803001)

Then why are you posting on slashdot? Back to the grindstone with you!

Re:In New York City (2)

AbrasiveCat (999190) | about 2 years ago | (#41803533)

My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home,.

So we can expect more posts to slashdot today?

No work? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41802901)

I live in south Alabama, we get plenty of hurricanes. I have to drive across Mobile Bay in order to get to work. Unless there is over 100mph winds, I have to go to work. I work in an office, punching buttons on a computer. The company that I work for has a main office in the effected area of this storm, and although the storm is still waaaay the fuck out in the Atlantic ocean (yes, it's waaay the fuck out since it's only 85mph winds), we get word that the main office is closing Monday (we got word on this Friday). I have never understood the mindset behind who I work for. I think a better question would be, "What is considered dangerous-enough weather to close an office?" Because here recently I had to drive across 7 miles of open water in over 100mph gusts, and many roads were closed due to flooding during hurricane Isaac.

Re:No work? (4, Insightful)

Lieutenant_Dan (583843) | about 2 years ago | (#41802973)

I hear you. The elements that you have to face is different than what senior management is willing to face. Two sets of rules. They don't mind putting you in harm's way while they spend the day at home watching Sportcenter.

Can't ask your manager for remote access to your terminal and/or tools?

DR Plan (1)

Dr. Evil (3501) | about 2 years ago | (#41803247)

Sell working from home as part of a disaster preparedness plan. Ensure employees *can* work from home in case the head office loses power or floods. Ensure there's a secondary datacenter for core services too of course.

Re:No work? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803007)

So that whole 'south Alabama is nothing by morons' thing IS true then?

Re:No work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803289)

The key is in your first 5 words.....

Re:No work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803455)

Is pretty simple. Storms near you bother upper management less than the loss of income from you not working. Storms near them may be a tad inconvenient, so they fly to California to play golf while you keep working.

Re:No work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803515)

You blame your company for your own stupidity? You could move somewhere with a shorter and less dangerous commute. Or you could find another employer within the safe commuting zone of your residence.

You are blaming outside forces for your own sub-optimal decisions.

See what happens? (5, Insightful)

gmuslera (3436) | about 2 years ago | (#41802945)

Started as a minor storm but the press have blown it out of all proportion. Now is a big one.

Re:See what happens? (4, Funny)

cffrost (885375) | about 2 years ago | (#41803035)

Well, all that hot air can evaporate a lot of water.

Re:See what happens? (5, Insightful)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#41803039)

Amen to that! Any news agency with a presence in New York (all of them) turn it into the end of the world. The last time New York had a snow storm, CNN covered it like it was the black death. Meanwhile, Wisconsin got slightly more snow than they did and nobody gave a shit. Seriously, we were out shopping and driving and tailgating Packer games like it was normal weather, seeing as how it was. This is a class 1 hurricane. Time to un-bundle their undees and report on something useful and just pack a goddam umbrella.

Re:See what happens? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803187)

tailgating Packer games

You play fudgepacker games?

Re:See what happens? (4, Interesting)

deains (1726012) | about 2 years ago | (#41803283)

It's the same everywhere really. Not a single snowflake can fall on Greater London without half the British press running a story about it, meanwhile in the North of England and Scotland, it could be 10 feet of snow and the media wouldn't even blink an eye. It's all about perspective, and the world experience of a journalist stuck working in a dingy skyscraper all day is very limited.

Re:See what happens? (5, Insightful)

bws111 (1216812) | about 2 years ago | (#41803301)

Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

Do you realize how many people live in that area? And, OK, it is 'only' a Category 1 storm, so the most likely effects (away from the coast) is power outages. Except that when the entire mid-Atantic and Northeast regions are covered, there is no help available from neighboring states.

And, oh yeah, the storm surge at NYC is supposed to be 'only' 8 to 11 feet - which has happened never before. Since much of NYCs infrastructure is underground (including, of course, the subways), this is a big deal, regardless of the category of the storm or what similar storms have done elsewhere.

Re:See what happens? (2)

DarkOx (621550) | about 2 years ago | (#41803503)

It really does not take all that much wind or snow load to cause lots power outages. What the utility companies usually do is loan each other extra crews before big weather events. Lots of that has been going on this time naturally.

The challenge of this storm will be predicting where most of the damage will happen because of its size and actually having the crews near that epicenter of the damage (not always where the epicenter of the storm happens to go) because of its size. If the damage is spread over a large enough area again possible because of its physical size. There may not be enough crews to fix the grid in a timely fashion. Really intensity is not the concern with this one, area is.

Don't forget all those highways and interstates through Appalachia either. If there is a major fast snow fall and cars and trucks actually get stranded on the roads it becomes a painful slow process to clear them. Many of these are through mountain cuts with little in the way of shoulders even on the inner states like parts of I64. You can't run a plow truck down the road until the autos are cleared out of the way. You can't clear the autos until much of the snow is out of the way. Its a catch-22.

While I agree the cries of Armageddon from the media are a bit over blown this does have the potential to be disruptive in big way. I will be surprised if we see lots of photos of roofs stripped from buildings and flood ravaged cityscapes, but I won't be surprised at all if there are lots of stranded motorists, cut off towns, and long duration power outages. Its could enough now this time of year to make it not probably not deadly but certainly miserable without electricity most of those places.

Re:See what happens? (1)

Guppy (12314) | about 2 years ago | (#41803571)

Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

Yup, it's a good example of quantity having a quality all it's own. Although the local damage will likely be mild compared to famous storms of the past, it will be applied over a huge area, resulting in a very large $ figure when it is finished.

Re:See what happens? (2)

jittles (1613415) | about 2 years ago | (#41803495)

You don't use an umbrella in a hurricane. The wind will turn the damn thing inside out. Besides, umbrellas are relatively pointless anyway. I don't mind getting a little wet.

Re:See what happens? (1)

us7892 (655683) | about 2 years ago | (#41803725)

By this time in southern New England, it was supposed to be much worse. Still waiting. I'm finally hearing a little bit of back-tracking from the radio weather person. Likely will be much worse from NYC to PHL.

Re:See what happens? (1)

colfer (619105) | about 2 years ago | (#41803763)

Agree there's too much crying wolf but the actual numbers are pretty bad. Here is an analysis of why the predicted 11 foot tide at the Battery in lower Manhattan is bad news for the subway: http://kottke.org/12/10/hurricane-sandy-comin [kottke.org] The alarms have been indiscriminate though, so there is a lot of noise in the signal. The recent eagerness to close the subway is particularly irksome. The "officials" would never close a large road system because in 24 hours it would be covered in seawater. The people making these decisions see things from the tinted windows of limousines. The first time the subway was closed for weather was only in 2011: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway#Subway_flooding [wikipedia.org]

Sandy is Wendy (2)

halfkoreanamerican (2566687) | about 2 years ago | (#41802955)

Wilmington, NC asks: What storm?

Re:Sandy is Wendy (1)

Jeffrey_Walsh VA (1335967) | about 2 years ago | (#41803425)

In northern VA where thousands of Fed workers, teachers and parents of public school students are home from work, we are seeing sustained rains, and wind gusts strong enough to blow many of the leaves off of deciduous trees.

Re:Sandy is Wendy (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803521)

Most of those thousands of Fed workers are teleworking today from home using laptops and VPN. This was well coordinated ahead of the storm. Do you really want all those Fed workers on the road, clogging the roadways and keeping Dominion power trucks from getting to downed lines? You might actually be impressed if you take you blinders off.

I laugh at your impending doom. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803097)

As a rednecked trailer park dweller, I wish to say DIE DIE DIE DIE.

It isn't so bad, you city may lay waste, and your stores might be empty, but you can always keep your undeserved smug sense of superiority to everyone who lies below the Mason-Dixon line.

Re:I laugh at your impending doom. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803233)

As a rednecked trailer park dweller, I wish to say DIE DIE DIE DIE.

No, you die and we will watch, you sorry white trash lowlife parasitic piece
of subhuman waste.

There is NO lower life form in the US than the white trash which lives
below the Mason-Dixon line. These people are uneducated for the
most part, and they are in love with their own ignorance and actually
proud of it in a perverse sort of way. And they use just as many food stamps
as poor black people do, only they aren't smart enough to grasp that
Romney is not their friend so many of these lowlife morons will
vote for Romney.

Honestly, if I could neuter all you white trash scum you'd already be singing
an octave higher.

So shut the fuck up, you redneck loser, and have the good sense to respect people who
are better than you are.

Could be worse, HMS Bounty (4, Interesting)

OffTheLip (636691) | about 2 years ago | (#41803173)

Abandoning ship into 25 foot lifeboats to battle monster seas is bad for the crew and hard work for the Coast Guard tasked with their safety. The graveyard of the Atlantic is set to claim another prize. http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/29/coast-guard-monitoring-tall-ship-in-distress-off-north-carolina-with-17-aboard/ [foxnews.com]

Sandy, the Fireworks are hailing over little Eden (1)

Bucc5062 (856482) | about 2 years ago | (#41803209)

Mean while, the mummified corpse that is the Southeast continues its slow, unexciting evaporation into oblivion. Compared to the wham bam thank you ma'am of a storm like Sandy, us here in the south maintain a steady relationship with death by dehydration. Nothing to see here folks, just move along (sigh). I mean, compared to a pounding shore line backdropped by winded swept spume, how boring is reporting from a dried up hay field, or hard-packed pasture with nothing but an empty lake in the back ground... No, really, go watch Sandy, she's much more fun.

Snowfall (5, Interesting)

CaroKann (795685) | about 2 years ago | (#41803313)

One interesting aspect about this storm is the snowfall. Snowfall is expected in WV and KY. Moisture from the storm is wrapping around into cold air in the higher elevations. A hurricane producing snow, how unusual! http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/291149.shtml [noaa.gov] ?

Storm Story (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | about 2 years ago | (#41803395)

My storm story is well documented in Henny Penny, with the public as the role of Chicken Little. The one without a happy ending.

I can see the beach from this spot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803531)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=256935417762004&set=a.243402332448646.53482.100003366424039&type=1&theater

Super hyped???? (4, Informative)

PortHaven (242123) | about 2 years ago | (#41803751)

In 1992, when I was in Connecticut, they hyped a nor'easter. It was to be the worst thing since Hurricane Gloria. It came, it fizzled, it was a little more windy than normal. But seriously, didn't even make me blink. It was hyped the same way Sandy is being hyped.

Two weeks later another nor'easter approached. The embarrassed media downplayed it. This second storm turned out to be everything the first one wasn't. My school was evacuated. Boats were floating down the road. The pier was 18" under water.

***

My fear is this will fizzle. And then, in a month or so we'll have another storm, and that will be the one that devestates.

"Isn't weather great?!!" (2)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#41803753)

Around Sept.1992, during Hurricane David (I believe), I was helping out my friends. "Warren" had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer, and with the aid of his wife and of Hospice, was home to die. In their bedroom was a tv that was tuned to The Weather Channel, playing constantly, 24/7.

While I was sitting next to a weakened Warren laying in his hospital bed, idly staring at the tv, he turns his gaze to me and with a smile asks, "Isnt weather great?" I agreed, "Yeah, Mother Nature's really cool", or something like that. Warren passed on not too long after that display of nature. That's just one of the many learning moments I received from that time, that good or bad, weather is great!

harumpph! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41803795)

I read all these dim comments to lighten my day with something witty about slashdot closing some of it's offices, as if it was a real news organization, but not a mention... where are all the trollls?

Google's Crisis Map (2)

TheGreatDuwanee (125985) | about 2 years ago | (#41803813)

Google has launched a crisis map showing rainfall, active emergency shelters and quite a bit of other info. http://google.org/crisismap/sandy-2012 [google.org]
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