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D&D Monster Study Proves Eyes Have It

Unknown Lamer posted about a year and a half ago | from the my-eyes-are-down-here-buddy dept.

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sciencehabit writes with this excerpt from Science: "The dungeon is pitch black — until the dungeon master blazes a torch, confirming your worst fears. A Beholder monster lurches at you, its eyeballs wriggling on tentacular stems. As you prepare to wield your Vorpal sword, where do you focus your gaze: at the monster's head or at its tentacle eyes? Such a quandary from the role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons may seem like a meaningless trifle, but it holds within it the answer to a tricky scientific question: Do people focus their gaze on another person's eyes or on the center of the head? In fact, a father-son team has used D&D monsters to show that most people will look to another creature's eyes, even if they're not attached to a head."

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196 comments

Boobies (5, Funny)

PoopManners (2764379) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831099)

I don't watch at eyes, I watch at boobs amirite?

Re:Boobies (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831145)

I don't watch at eyes, I watch at boobs amirite?

Those tits certainly have the look.

Re:Boobies (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831211)

I look for the pee hole and give it mean stare.

Re:Boobies (5, Insightful)

cayenne8 (626475) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831377)

Actually...get the boob looking out of the way before you approach her....

For building repoire with a girl you're trying to meet....give them eye contact, and usually...have them to be the first one to drop it, dominance thing.

This isn't just with women...in meetings, or when I'm trying to push my agenda, etc...I generally focus my gaze usually directly into their right eye (just pick one, doesn't really matter that much I don't think)...but with that situation or even just friendly ones....it imparts to people that YOU are engaged in them, and interested and listening to them.

Staring at the floor, or something else on them...just doesn't cut it, if you're wanting to truly interact with them, or especially want to exert your influence...I find that doing the right eye contact is a big help.

Re:Boobies (4, Funny)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831753)

I generally focus my gaze usually directly into their right eye (just pick one, doesn't really matter that much I don't think)

I had a roommate with eyes that focused in different directions, I would usually look at the eye that wasn't looking at me to make him keep shifting his gaze.

Re:Boobies (5, Funny)

al.caughey (1426989) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831921)

I knew I came to /. for a reason... and I just figured out that it is to get expert advice on social skills and how to meet girls

Re:Boobies (2)

houghi (78078) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832053)

I generally focus my gaze usually directly into their right eye

As you are apparently into a staring contest of some sort, you better NOT look into the eyes, but right between them Much easier as you will not be tempted to look into the other.

The other person will look into your eyes and then will often go from one to the other. As you are not looking into the eye(s) you will not do that.

OTOH if you are not in a staring contest, letting you eyes wander a bit around the face will make you more human and let people open up to you easier.

Re:Boobies (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832095)

But what if I'm trying to impart dominance over her boobs? Then where should I look?

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832331)

still into her eyes because her boobs can't tell your looking at them :(

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832115)

This isn't just with women...in meetings, or when I'm trying to push my agenda, etc...I generally focus my gaze usually directly into their right eye (just pick one, doesn't really matter that much I don't think)...but with that situation or even just friendly ones....it imparts to people that YOU are engaged in them, and interested and listening to them.

That's too arbitrary. In reality, looking into someone's eyes tells you nothing. Social conventions are idiotic.

Re:Boobies (1)

Kozz (7764) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832329)

On the other hand, if you want to really weird someone out, stare at one of their ears when speaking to them. They may start moving laterally to move their face to be centered on your gaze. Most amusing when done with people you already know, just to mess with them. ;)

Re:Boobies (1)

strength_of_10_men (967050) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832339)

Depends on the situation. I find that in many cases, people from Asia tend to not look you too hard or long in the eyes, as it's sometimes considered disrespectful.

I guess it's all in what you're hoping to achieve.

Personally, I find myself looking a the person's mouth when they're talking. I have to force myself to look someone in the eyes when I catch myself doing that. Don't know if means I'm submissive or what...

Re:Boobies (5, Funny)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831175)

Old joke: Why don't men look women in the eyes? Cause their eyes aren't on their tits.

Re:Boobies (5, Funny)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831347)

Better study: Show men pictures of women with nipples for eyes and eyes for nipples and check where they look. Take the pre-photoshop picture in a cold studio.

Re:Boobies (1)

azalin (67640) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831925)

Your mind seems to be a strange place. Interesting, but strange.

Re:Boobies (2, Funny)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832527)

I could print a tshirt with eye balls on the nipples and the words 'look me in the eyes'.

It might sell.

Re:Boobies (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831621)

Oh, I just got a hardon imagining a Beholder with boobies on all it's tentacles instead of eyes...

Re:Boobies (4, Funny)

azalin (67640) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831939)

Oh, I just got a hardon imagining a Beholder with boobies on all it's tentacles instead of eyes...

So beauty would in the boob of the beholder?

Re:Boobies (2)

Digital Vomit (891734) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832493)

No, you fool: Booby would be in the eye of the Beholder!

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831195)

No you're just illiterate.

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831217)

I keep concentrating on the eyes when talking to a woman. Otherwise I get aroused and, as a consequence, feel sexually harrassed when she can't take her eyes off my bulge. Even more so if she can.

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831235)

I'd be careful if I were you. These days a lot of men seem to have boobs.

Re:Boobies (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831723)

What's the female version of that then? Our clothes? lol

Re:Boobies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832295)

But where would you look if boobs were on the end of tentacles? At the boobs or at the center of the chest?

Eyes show emotion (5, Interesting)

captaindomon (870655) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831167)

It has been shown many times in studies that people are able to read a lot of emotion by looking at another person's eyes. Looking at foreheads doesn't give you a tactical advantage, but if you can look in someone's eyes you can see what they are feeling most of the time. You can also see where they are looking, and where their attention is at, which is critical. Of course, good magicians know this and look at the wrong things at the wrong times to mislead you ;)

Re:Eyes show emotion (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831275)

Also the human eye has evolved a large sclera which provide visual cues. It allows for a very specific non-verbal communication: what you are focusing on. This can trigger a change in posture which can expand the non-verbal communication: For example is it food, sex, or danger?

Lots of animals lack this, and as such is difficult to determine by glancing at the eyes what the animal is looking at. Thus it's harder to determine the animals "intent".

Re:Eyes show emotion (1)

tiberus (258517) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831365)

It would be interesting to see what could be gleamed from just seeing someones eyes without the context of the rest of the face. I'd think the only tell whether their eyes were open, where they were looking and how moist the eye was. The rest of the information about interest and emotional state from viewing the eye in context of the face.

I thought nose was the center of the head, at least from the front, isn't the forehead near the top?

Re:Eyes show emotion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831497)

"gleaned", not "gleamed".

Re:Eyes show emotion (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831543)

Much context is conveyed by the eyebrows, eyelids, upper cheek muscles, and other things that will be at or near the center of your vision when you are looking at someone's eyes. This is not to diminish the amount of meaning that can be obtained by watching the actual eye movements, but people may not realize which muscles they are reading when making an assessment.

Re:Eyes show emotion (1)

cellocgw (617879) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831703)

Well, those Japanese "eye-emoticons" seem to provide a lot of info...

Re:Eyes show emotion (1)

avandesande (143899) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831451)

More than that- the eyes orient you to the center of the head, which is important. One of the techniques you are supposed to use in soccer and football is to watch someones midriff so you aren't tricked by someone trying to misdirect which way you are headed. Kind of the same thing....

Re:Eyes show emotion (5, Interesting)

ideonexus (1257332) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831965)

One of my martial arts teachers always instructed me to focus my gaze on my opponent's solar plexus so that I could see what their legs and arms were doing in the peripheral vision and to never move the gaze from that point so as not to telegraph my intention with my eyes. Kick boxing ended up being probably the most important class I ever took in my life. It taught me to never get in a fight.

Re:Eyes show emotion (3, Interesting)

alexgieg (948359) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832243)

It has been shown many times in studies that people are able to read a lot of emotion by looking at another person's eyes.

This is also the main reason most manga and anime authors prefer to draw big eyes. They're a much easier way to transmit emotions than body postures, allowing for a faster drawing process. In fact, one of the ways they to show a character (usually a villain) as having little to no emotion is by drawing small eyes on him, what also serves as contrast between pure lack of emotion and mere introversion (a character with cold demeanor plus big eyes). Lead characters, in contrast, have the biggest eyes in the cast. And if it's a soap story directed towards female teens you'll find HUGE eyes almost everywhere.

As a side note for those who don't know: there are tons of "small eyed" manga. Those are usually directed towards adults. What actually defines manga as a style isn't eye size then, but scene transition, which is based on action movies. That's why supposed "manga" drawn by Western authors usually feels wrong to fans: even though their characters are manga-like, their scene transition tends to follow super-hero comics patterns, with lots of poses, high expectation "halted impact" scenes, and step-by-step slow-motion-like narrative. Hence, not manga.

Re:Eyes show emotion (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832523)

I wonder how accurate this study is, but that being said, the relationship between eyes and emotion is well established. Don't take it from me, take it from Sir Michael Caine! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njs6ZNSoFC0 [youtube.com]

But... (4, Informative)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831169)

But the head IS a giant eye.

Re:But... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831265)

And a vorpal sword is going to be terrible against a beholder. The natural 20 auto-kill bonus is going to be useless. A regular +5 sword is going to be considerably more effective.

Re:But... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831683)

So the next person doesn't wonder why:

The vorpal sword's "auto-kill" is supposed to involve separating the critter's head from wherever that is being kept. If your enemy is a floating head, you will be about as effective as Galstaff.

On that note, where's the Mountain Dew?

Beheading a beholder is a bit redundant. (1)

Dr. Evil (3501) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831785)

I'm disappointed that I searched for this answer before posting it myself.

Relevance (0)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831177)

How is this relevant to... anything?

Psych of eye contact out of scope.

Re:Relevance (1)

zill (1690130) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831321)

This is hugely relevant when I transmute myself into a tentacle monster.

Fake eyes on autotomic* tentacles will give me the tactical advantage I need to evade the police and finally get laid.



*Brownie points for anyone who knows this word off the top of their head.

Re:Relevance (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831353)

lmfao somebody should do that for Halloween

Re:Relevance (1)

Endovior (2450520) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832365)

I'm skeptical. The 'monster' data they have doesn't seem particularly focused, and statistically saying 'well, it was all over the place, but it averages to the eyes' doesn't seem right in this case. A study of images showing humans and animals might be more revealing.

That explains everything (5, Funny)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831199)

Being in IT support, we see many people come in without eyes, or common sense, attached to their head. Many times, the head is firmly impacted in the nether regions but this malady is most common with upper management.

Re:That explains everything (2)

Divide By Zero (70303) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832179)

Having been in IT support in a healthcare environment, we had a term for that: Cranial-rectal colocation. It comes in two kinds, acute (for short periods) or chronic (seemingly all the time). Our group had diagnosed several cases of CCRC before I left for greener pastures, but I still use the term today.

Is this a trick question? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831201)

I, and I imagine most slashdotters, look at my feet when interacting with other people. Especially women.

Re:Is this a trick question? (5, Funny)

vlm (69642) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831579)

I, and I imagine most slashdotters, look at my feet when interacting with other people. Especially women.

Why are your keyboard and monitor by your feet? I'm not flexible enough to type that way anymore.

Re:Is this a trick question? (4, Funny)

Darby (84953) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832481)


I, and I imagine most slashdotters, look at my feet when interacting with other people. Especially women.

Not me. I'm a bold, dashing ladies' man. I look at their feet.

Survival Advantage. (5, Interesting)

Tackhead (54550) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831213)

There was a profound and significant bias towards looking early and often at the eyes of humans and humanoids and also, critically, at the eyes of monsters.

Makes sense. There's a survival advantage whether you're predator or prey, it doesn't matter if you can see it, it's whether or not it can see you. Being able to see its head, claws, or gelsacs is useful, but the thing that gives you a survival advantage is knowing whether or not it can see you. If you can see its eyes, it can see you. (The converse - if you can't see its eyes, it can't see you - does not hold unless you're a Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.)

Car Analogy: Same as if you're driving on the highway past an 18-wheeler. If I can see the trucker's eyes in the side mirrors, he can see me. (I'll assume he can't for the sake of prudence, but it's possible he can see me). If I can't see his eyes in the side mirrors, it's my responsibility to position me vehicle in such a way that he can see me, and/or somewhere he can't hit me whether he can see me or not.

Re:Survival Advantage. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831557)

During motorbike training we were taught to position ourselves on the road where a driver would be, i.e. about 2/3 the way in, because (for one reason) other drivers look to that spot when looking for traffic -they instinctively look for another driver rather than another vehicle and further, they would look for their eyes. Worked for me so far.

Re:Survival Advantage. (-1, Flamebait)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831751)

There was a profound and significant bias towards looking early and often at the eyes of humans and humanoids and also, critically, at the eyes of monsters.

Makes sense. There's a survival advantage whether you're predator or prey, it doesn't matter if you can see it, it's whether or not it can see you. Being able to see its head, claws, or gelsacs is useful, but the thing that gives you a survival advantage is knowing whether or not it can see you. If you can see its eyes, it can see you. (The converse - if you can't see its eyes, it can't see you - does not hold unless you're a Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.)

Car Analogy: Same as if you're driving on the highway past an 18-wheeler. If I can see the trucker's eyes in the side mirrors, he can see me. (I'll assume he can't for the sake of prudence, but it's possible he can see me). If I can't see his eyes in the side mirrors, it's my responsibility to position me vehicle in such a way that he can see me, and/or somewhere he can't hit me whether he can see me or not.

So you are saying that if my eyes aren't meeting your eyes, I can't see you? That is so wrong on many levels, I can't believe you said it. Just because something doesn't make eye contact, does not mean it doesn't see you. Unless you are just eyes, then maybe. But your not. In fact, your eyes are very small compared to the rest of your body. You might want to rethink what you said in case you ever need to hide from people. Covering your eyes with hands doesn't make you invisible.

Re:Survival Advantage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831837)

(The converse - if you can't see its eyes, it can't see you - does not hold unless you're a Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.)

Re:Survival Advantage. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832435)

Where does he say that? He says that if he can see the drivers eyes, he knows that the driver can see him. If he can't see his eyes, he simply doesn't know whether or not the driver can see him. He does not categorically state that if you can't see the driver, the driver can't see you.

Re:Survival Advantage. (2)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831779)

I don't know why they need a study to do this. If anyone has a pet, and that pet wants something from you or wants you to do something, it's looking at your eyes. Even if I just walk into a room and my cat wants to see who it is she still looks at my eyes.

Re:Survival Advantage. (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832315)

I don't know why they need a study to do this.

Because if they don't use the grant money, they lose it.

Re:Survival Advantage. (1)

Empiric (675968) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831963)

Interesting point--and a follow-on question to ponder would be the survival advantage of willingly -not- seeing whether the other entity can see you. We see such behavior in dominance challenges, where breaks eye contact with . This is a clear and strong intuitive meaning, but the wider details of why specifically this has come to occur and why it universally corresponds to certain meaning I find rather intriguing.

Similarly, we have the question of mere directions that one is looking as having significant importance...

"Looking up at " and "looking down at " seem to have an almost intrinsic physical validly apart from any socialized association of particular meaning or evaluation. Notions such as "looking up at heaven" or "looking down into the abyss" are universal in having equivalents across religions and mythologies, and what is suggested by "looking up" versus "looking down" broadly understood even apart from context involving these.

Why do we almost viscerally and intuitively feel that "good stuff" is "up", and "bad stuff" is "down", and how did that sense get propagated from the development of our physical biology to a nearly-universal conceptual and linguistic "understanding"?

Re:Survival Advantage. (1)

Empiric (675968) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832049)

So, Slashdot apparently excised the parts of my post that looked too much like HTML tags...

"...where /entity1/ breaks eye contact with /entity2/..."

"Looking up at /someone or something good/" and "looking down at /someone or something bad/..." ...was what I was going for.

Nevermind. (Looks down, mysteriously in preference to up, dejectedly)

Basic martial arts. (1, Interesting)

MRe_nl (306212) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831221)

Always look at your opponents eyes, (if they're not highly skilled) they will usually look at an area before making a move in that direction.

Re:Basic martial arts. (5, Interesting)

Tragedy4u (690579) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831299)

Not true, many instructors (Sensai, Sifu etc) will tell you to stare at the centre of your opponent's chest. The eyes can lie, if look at the centre of the chest you get a better field of view of how an opponents limbs are moving which can allow you to react better against a feint or a true attack.

Re:Basic martial arts. (4, Interesting)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831695)

Slightly off topic, but this is how you're coached to defend in basketball and football too. Check the opponents center of gravity, not their eyes.

Re:Basic martial arts. (0, Flamebait)

HPHatecraft (2748003) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831757)

and many of these guys have never been in a real street fight.

As a consequence, none of them will tell you "here's how to defuse this situation so that it doesn't escalate. Fighting cause you to owe money if it goes to court. You could go to the hospital. The person(s) attacking you could go. Someone could die." And most don't teach how to do this.

They also will not tell you "the complicated stuff you are learning, the spinning kicks, the block-strike patterns, will probably not work". Under adrenal stress, you lose fine motor coordination. Those techniques will go out the window, probably, and you'll be reduced to playground style fighting.

You are better off learning basic, easy to use techniques that are "high percentage". Practice those under pressure.

If you are a pro fighter, veteran cop, etc, feel free to ignore this. For the rest of us schlubs, this is how it is.

Re:Basic martial arts. (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831525)

Especially if they are a Beholder and one of those eyes can shoot a disintegration ray.

Re:Basic martial arts. (1)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831563)

As a fencer, I always watch their bellguard. It's pretty center-of-mass. The eyes are too far away from the thing that actually makes attacks, and it's even further away from their feet, which are usually the biggest indicator of what they're going to do. Well, not so much their feet, but their weight distribution on their feet. The fact that we wear these face-obscuring masks might contribute.

Re:Basic martial arts. (3, Informative)

Princeofcups (150855) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831869)

Always look at your opponents eyes, (if they're not highly skilled) they will usually look at an area before making a move in that direction.

Please mod this down. Looking at your opponents eyes is the last thing you want to do. Nor do you want to stare at a weapon, or at their chest as someone else posted. You want to see all of the opponent, and not focus at any one particular place. If anything, you want to fix your gaze slightly past the opponent. Then any movement, be it head, foot, hand, can be seen equally. Just watch UFC if you disagree. See that kind of glassy unfocused look in their eyes? That's what you want.

Look eye, always look eye! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831231)

That's what Mr. Miyagi said.

Neither (5, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831241)

Most D&D players look at their shoes. The extraverted D&D player looks at the GM's shoes.

Re:Neither (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831307)

Recycled Finnish joke.

I wonder (3, Insightful)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831287)

If this "research" will qualify for the Ig-Noble awards next year.

I knew it! (3, Funny)

shaitand (626655) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831289)

This is proof that D&D contains all the secrets to life, the universe, and everything!

Re:I knew it! (1)

jovius (974690) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831709)

All you need are dice and the sense of adventure?

Re:I knew it! (1)

shaitand (626655) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832071)

Turns out god plays dice after all

God says... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831319)

13:18 Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of
Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the LORD.

14:1 And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar,
Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of
nations; 14:2 That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with
Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of
Zeboiim, and the king of Bela, which is Zoar.

14:3 All these were joined together in the vale of Siddim, which is
the salt sea.

14:4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year
they rebelled.

14:5 And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that
were with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the
Zuzims in Ham, and the Emins in Shaveh Kiriathaim, 14:6 And the
Horites in their mount Seir, unto Elparan, which is by the wilderness.

read the abstract, disappointed with the methods (4, Funny)

HPHatecraft (2748003) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831327)

For starters, did any of the participants in the experiments roll any savings throws? Lame.

Experimenter: "OK, you encounter a beholder, and... it gets initiative. You: it fires... (dice roll) a beam from eye-stalk number 7."

Participant: "Uh, OK."

Experimenter: "Roll the dice. No. No, the other one. Yeah. OK. I see you failed your save vs paralysis".

Participant: "Huh? (sees the taser in the experimenter's hand) No, wait!!"

Experimenter: Zzzzzaaap!

Experimenter: "Hm. He's not moving... oops. Hey. Did anyone roll a cleric? Anyone? What?!? Goddammit!

Lips for me (1)

amanaplanacanalpanam (685672) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831329)

My gaze tends to gravitate to the lips as much as (if not more than) the eyes, especially in those I find attractive. I'm not sure what that means.

Re:Lips for me (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831861)

My gaze tends to gravitate to the lips as much as (if not more than) the eyes, especially in those I find attractive. I'm not sure what that means.

Depends on which ones I suppose.

Should be obvious (1)

macraig (621737) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831335)

It should be obvious why another creature's - any creature's - gaze would be the focus of one's own: you need to see where the other creature is looking. If it's looking at you, then you might have a problem. This is completely unsurprising, as my cats always look directly at my eyes when they want to determine my focus and intent.

GOD ADS? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831345)

Why does slasdot have God ads?

Re:GOD ADS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831625)

Please define "God ads." Given the information you provided, your question doesn't make sense.

Re:GOD ADS? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832293)

Slashdot believes in profits, not god. You surely click on the ad just to see if it was a joke and, thats it, they got profit.

Mr. Miyagi always taught me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831359)

Looka eye! Always looka eye!

I realize the audience but ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831379)

anyone who has played a sport is usually told to watch an opponents eyes because people generally watch where they are going.

Can't Look People In The Eye (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831457)

When I look people in the eye for too long, I begin to get uncomfortable and need to look away. Of course, talking with someone without looking them in the eye is awkward, so I've learned ways of fooling them into thinking I'm looking at their eyes when I'm not. I'll look behind their head, at their nose, etc. This way I don't get uncomfortable and they don't think I'm not focusing on them.

Vorpal blade would suck. (1)

grub (11606) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831537)


Vorpal Blades have a small bonus to hit with a slim (5%? 10%?) chance of beheading during melee. Beholders are just a giant, floating head, no body to decapitate from.

So, there's always a chance your sword would swing harmlessly below the Beholder as it floated in front of you.

Now if it were a 1 HP Gas Spore, well, that would would be a big surprise. "Lulz! I failed my decap chance and hit! POP! Oh shit..."

25+ years later I don't remember the names of girls I dated, but I remember AD&D. I am teh lame.

If I need to focus - I look away (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831561)

Any time I need to focus on what a person is saying, or think about what I'm saying, I look away. If I look at their head/face/eyes I can't listen to what's being said. If I do the same while trying to explain something, I get halfway through my first sentence before I lose my train of thought and start rambling nonsense. I find that if I furrow my brow at the same time, the other person doesn't mind. However, if I just don't look at them, they get annoyed or think that I'm not really engaged in the conversation.

Sorry, that's still too much to ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41831615)

That's all well and good, but I have a damn hard time looking people in the eyes as it is. After long training, I've learned to look at the end of their nose so that it looks like I'm looking them in the eyes, but looking people in the eyes has always been hard. It seems like there is so much information coming in when I do that, that I can't concentrate on the conversation. Looking at the comments, I see I'm not alone. FWIW, I believe I have Asperger's; 42 years being me has led me to that conclusion.

Minsc was right! (1)

masteva (996554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831647)

Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

Re:Minsc was right! (1)

JMandingo (325160) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832213)

Butt-kicking! For goodness!

Can't use a vorpal sword on a beholder (0)

Gothmolly (148874) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831699)

It is essentially a floating head - your vorpal sword won't do anything special.

Re:Can't use a vorpal sword on a beholder (0)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831905)

It is essentially a floating head - your vorpal sword won't do anything special.

Not according to 4th Edition rules.

The vorpal blade in 4th edition Dungeons & Dragons does not behead opponents.

from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_item_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#Examples [wikipedia.org]

Re:Can't use a vorpal sword on a beholder (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832171)

4th Edition is an abomination upon the Earth. If 4E says it, it's absolutely and guaranteed wrong.

what I do (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831745)

For the record, in DDO, I'm always in undead Lich (prestige) form so I'm immune to most beholder effects and then I dragon flyby in mid air up to the beholder and spray it with my ice dragon breath attack, which always 1-hits it regardless of the reflex save. It also casts through antimagic fields. So I'm mostly focusing on my quickbar actually, lol.

Is it just me? (1)

sootman (158191) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831765)

I've never felt comfortable looking into someone's eyes for more than a few moments at a time. I'm just overly conscious of "I'm looking at you, and you're looking at me, and you know I'm looking at you..." It's just weird to me. And once you've started looking into someone's eyes, it seems rude to then not look into them. Instead, I look at people's mouths while talking. Anyone else?

Well, you know what they say... (1)

Doomstalk (629173) | about a year and a half ago | (#41831953)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Re:Well, you know what they say... (1)

masteva (996554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832389)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Unfortunately the rest of the party is in the stomach of the Beholder...

Beholders don't lurch (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832159)

Beholders don't lurch towards anybody, they sit back and zap away with things like disintegrate.

According to QI... (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832185)

According to QI, most women will go straight to the face, whereas men tend to sneak a look at the crotchal region - and it doesn't matter if they're looking at a woman, a man, or even a dog.

We look at the eyes because ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41832237)

"Your eye is a lamp for your body." -Luke 11:34a

Eyes = point of view (1)

Zaphod The 42nd (1205578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832265)

You're not looking at the center of the person, if you were doing that, the head wouldn't make sense. You'd stare at their chest. The point is not to look at a being's physical form necessarily, but rather to look them in the eyes, that is, to look at where they're looking from. You see them seeing you, they see you seeing them. Do you look a blind person in the eyes when you're talking to them? They won't look you in the eyes back, likely. Its about perspective, not about form.

Eye contact? Are you serious? (0)

MilwaukeeMadAss (2521372) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832311)

I'd be willing to guess that when it comes to the average D&D player, they have an extremely difficult time making contact with an inflatable doll (or action figure - what have you) let alone an actual female-type person.

I find that eyes without a face (1)

Ukab the Great (87152) | about a year and a half ago | (#41832451)

have got no human grace.

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