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Thousands of Lab Mice Lost In Sandy Flooding

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the george-bush-doesn't-care-about-mouse-people dept.

Science 88

An anonymous reader writes "While New York University's Langone Medical Center in lower Manhattan was the site of heroism as 260 patients were evacuated from flooded floors and a nearly complete loss of power, similar floods at NYU's nearby Smilow Research Building killed thousands of laboratory mice, including genetically altered specimens in-bred over many generations as research subjects for melanoma and other diseases. Other laboratory animals, cells, and living tissue used in medical research were also lost; because of the gestation period involved, some projects were likely set back a number of years. Past experience with storms such as Allison in Houston and Katrina in New Orleans has shown that keeping laboratory animals in basements is not good practice, but research institutions keep doing it anyway."

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I'd be MOST worried about contamination (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859023)

See subject-line above - Contamination of the surrounding area with ANY disease-related material that could get to human beings & infect them, causing a plague & what-not!

APK

P.S.=> No, I haven't read the article - I only briefly cursorily "scanned" it in the "recent" section here earlier today in the A.M., so, IF I've "got this all wrong"? Give me a pass... the above was the 1st thing that came to mind here is all!

... apk

Re:I'd be MOST worried about contamination (3, Informative)

Cockatrice_hunter (1777856) | about 2 years ago | (#41859257)

Most of the time you breed for genetic anomalies. Things like color-blindness, Huntington's repetitions, predeliction for cancer (cell cycle/apoptosis genes) are what are bred in. They are highly unlikely to be transmitted.

Thank-You for clarifying that much... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41860261)

I read some of the conditions involved & am by NO MEANS, a "medical professional"... thus, I just had a spot of worry's all, over something BAD spreading.

* "Onwards, & Upwards..."

APK

P.S.=> The downmod doesn't amaze me - someone always downmods my posts here (almost all, it's hilarious watching them blow their modpoints on "lil' ole' me" that way, wastefully... but, there ya go!).

... apk

I pity them (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859037)

Poor mice. I love rodents. I really do. Must have been horrible for them to see and feel the influx of water without being able to escape or do anything.

Re:I pity them (4, Funny)

Froboz23 (690392) | about 2 years ago | (#41859433)

The article failed to mention that the cages of Algernon and Jonathon were found vacant.

Re:I pity them (1)

LeopardMechanic (2732551) | about 2 years ago | (#41869943)

Future NY Times article: Genetically altered mice released by Sandy mate with indigenous mice to produce mutant offspring. An upper west side 67 year old women and her dog were attacked by a seemingly well organized group of outsized common mice. Witnesses claim that the mice, some the size of small pigs, would hesitate and direct their attention to what appeared to be their leader whenever they heard a series of repetitive high pitched squeaks. The woman was last seen bleeding profusely from the nose and ears as she yelled for her doorman and was pulled into a flooded culvert that drains central park. The dog, a registered competitive champion, chewed through itâ(TM)s leather leash just as the woman went under for the last time. The name of the dog is being withheld pending notification of relatives.

Re:I pity them (1)

Longjmp (632577) | about 2 years ago | (#41860897)

Well, some of them might have had some fun. [youtube.com]

I don't (1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | about 2 years ago | (#41861319)

You obviously never had a mouse infestation. Shitting on and in everything, everywhere, on you at night, etc.. Making your family sick. You kill 9 and the 10th gets away and a month later there are 10 again.

fuck mice dude, they either survive or they dont. But its completely irresponsible of scientists to allow genetically modified animals into the wild because "it rained more than we were used to!".

Re:I don't (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41861619)

Sorry for the Anon post, but people do craze thing to animal researchers. These mice will not survive in the wild because most are so inbred that they die from a mild pathogen. The C57/Bl6 mouse is not a resilient strain (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_mouse_trap/2011/11/black_6_lab_mice_and_the_history_of_biomedical_research.html).

Re:I pity them (1)

Oonagh (1821194) | about 2 years ago | (#41862967)

I thought that right off too, but then I remembered all the horrible and painful things they undergo in testing, and at least now they are out of it. :/

*turns off TV* (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | about 2 years ago | (#41859041)

Time to stop watching The Walking Dead.

Re:*turns off TV* (1)

djhertz (322457) | about 2 years ago | (#41861553)

This storm + That show = Need more shotgun shells

At least I know how to brew my own beer.

Will No One Think of the Mice? (4, Insightful)

Phrogman (80473) | about 2 years ago | (#41859057)

Its stupid to keep the lab animals in the basement obviously, if only from the perspective of setting research back years as was pointed out, let alone the needless killing of thousands of animals. The basements should be kept for the adminstration staff, or at least the lawyers...

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (1)

hutsell (1228828) | about 2 years ago | (#41859193)

Its stupid to keep the lab animals in the basement obviously, if only from the perspective of setting research back years as was pointed out, let alone the needless killing of thousands of animals. The basements should be kept for the adminstration staff, or at least the lawyers...

(Or the obligatory): Preferably the IT staff, since it will remind them of their Mom's basement, making most feel right at home. It's a win win for everyone.

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859625)

Has anyone seen my stapler?

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41862553)

Has anyone seen my stapler?

Bill: "Milt, we're gonna need to go ahead and move you downstairs into storage B. We have some new people coming in, and we need all the space we can get. So if you could just go ahead and pack up your stuff and move it down there, that would be terrific, OK?"
Milton: "Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler."

Milton: [on the phone] "And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire."

Peter: "This isn't so bad, huh? Makin' bucks, gettin' exercise, workin' outside."
Lawrence: "Fuckin' A."
Peter: "Fuckin' A."

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859941)

also ideal for safety, you can reliably assume IT staff can swim, being such a white profession

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41860103)

Which is more expensive to replace rodents or servers?

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (1)

HiThere (15173) | about 2 years ago | (#41860789)

Genetically standardized strains of mice are MUCH more expensive to replace.

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (3, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | about 2 years ago | (#41860585)

Its stupid to keep the lab animals in the basement obviously, if only from the perspective of setting research back years, let alone the needless killing of thousands of animals.

Manhattan real estate is expensive.

The hospital board can put income generating wards, clinics, operating rooms, cafeterias, restaurants, shops and other services on an upper floor or they can chose to house the animals there.

Research centers often stash their animal labs underground. That makes it easier to store heavy animal equipment like cage washers, autoclaves, and giant tanks of fish, and the lack of windows helps technicians control the light-dark cycle. Labs in California use basement cages to keep them safe from earthquakes, and other building managers like to have the excrement and waste sequestered down below.

Institutions like to keep their animals from public view. After all, even with the basements dry, these research centers are the site of massive rodent slaughter: The several thousand mice that drowned in Monday's flood represent just a tiny fractionâ"0.002 percent, perhapsâ"of all the mice and rats that die for research every year. It's ugly work, even when it's useful and important. Ken Kornberg, an architect who's worked on more than 400 biomedical research projects, points out that basements are more secure from activists and protesters.

Sandy's Toll on Medical Research [slate.com]

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (1)

goodmanj (234846) | about 2 years ago | (#41862437)

Basements are also more secure, which makes it easier to protect the mouse colony from animal rights lunatics. Yes, this is a serious concern when installing animal colonies. Yes, it means animal rights activists bear some indirect responsibility for these deaths.

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (1)

ByteSlicer (735276) | about 2 years ago | (#41860845)

Its stupid to keep the lab animals in the basement

Unless they put it full of eels...

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (1)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 2 years ago | (#41861543)

That's what the hovercraft is for.

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41861735)

It would be more difficult to house them above ground for a few reasons. First, the sheer amount of material that a facility can go through on a daily basis is amazing... having immediate access to the loading dock and trash areas is essential. Then the space required for autoclaves, washer units and all the associated equipment required for air purification, water purification, biosecurity and procedure spaces makes it a much more expensive proposition. Then there's the actual housing space required. Our facility recently underwent a major expansion, and I was able to see a lot of the construction involved, it takes a ton of space. Many universities also house more than just mice, there's various other rodents, cats, dogs, rabbits, pigs, and sheep. I couldn't imagine waiting for the elevators all day.

Wish everyone who's affected by this tragedy the best of luck.

Re:Will No One Think of the Mice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41862393)

I would be concerned about it being bio hazard, and it getting out into the rivers or oceans and casuing some freak occurrence. They do not seem to concerned with it however which is slightly more disturbing.

royal family?? (2, Funny)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#41859059)

including genetically altered specimens in-bred over many generations

didn't know the royals were in NY during the storm.

(I kid, I kid!)

Re:royal family?? (1)

mrbluze (1034940) | about 2 years ago | (#41859289)

including genetically altered specimens in-bred over many generations

didn't know the royals were in NY during the storm.

(I kid, I kid!)

They are keeping goats there too?

Re:royal family?? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859303)

" nonpartisan " !?! Bullshit. How stupid do you think we are---

Re:royal family?? (4, Funny)

Froboz23 (690392) | about 2 years ago | (#41859679)

Stupid enough to post about the Tax Report article in the Dead Lab Mice discussion?

Don't worry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859065)

They'll find their way out. They're pretty good with mazes.

The Basement (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859129)

Animal research at my university was done in a nondescript building absent from the maps, with a front only about twenty feet wide (other buildings were wrapped around it). You needed a key-card to open the front door, and the building had a huge basement for cattle. The rationale for such a design is to make it difficult for animal rights extremists to break-in. I suspect other universities keep animals in the basement for the same reason.

Re:The Basement (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | about 2 years ago | (#41861291)

I hear Texas A&M keeps them in the basement for an entirely different reason...

Re:The Basement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41862753)

Thanks for your info, you just made it a lot easier to gain entry.

What are we going to do tomorrow night, Brain? (4, Funny)

TigerPlish (174064) | about 2 years ago | (#41859133)

The thing we should've done years ago, Pinky: Move to Arizona. I hear it's dry there. *ptooie* Now shut up and keep rowing. We'll make it out of the parking lot yet.

NARRF yes, right Brain!

Re:What are we going to do tomorrow night, Brain? (1)

funwithBSD (245349) | about 2 years ago | (#41859547)

Hardest hit: Regis Philben.

Basement Are Better for Isolation (4, Insightful)

guttentag (313541) | about 2 years ago | (#41859135)

...keeping laboratory animals in basements is not good practice, but research institutions keep doing it anyway.

The point of keeping them in the basement is to isolate them from outside influences that might affect your results. For instance, if you put them in the building lobby, they might get malenoma from the sun, or PETA might steal them and eat them ("People Eating Tasty Animals"). Basements are better.

Re:Basement Are Better for Isolation (2)

MaXintosh (159753) | about 2 years ago | (#41859161)

This. And and unfortunately, the otherside is that administrations want to keep the 'dirty' bits of science away from where students study or alumni pay over-priced sums of money for sporting tickets. Point in case is when some animal facilities were told they had to move in Salt Lake City because they were going to be too close to the Olympic venues. They, too, got shoved in various basements.

Re:Basement Are Better for Isolation (1)

AHuxley (892839) | about 2 years ago | (#41860133)

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/21/politics/bio-germ-investigation/index.html [cnn.com]
You have to wonder how many labs, private labs within larger complexes got federal grant cash for exploring 'dirty' bits.
Lets hope a wave of fuel and human waste kept everything 'clean'
Bio-safety level 2 for all that extra funding :)

Re:Basement Are Better for Isolation (1)

dunng808 (448849) | about 2 years ago | (#41859683)

Cue up "Where Have All the Flowers Gone" and we will all join in on the refrain.

Re:Basement Are Better for Isolation (1)

stephanruby (542433) | about 2 years ago | (#41859771)

The point of keeping them in the basement is to isolate them from outside influences that might affect your results.

I thought the entire point of keeping the mices in the basements was because we could never keep the undergrads consistently in those black-mold infested basements in the first place, those undergrads would always make their way back up the stairs, or through the elevators, sneaking themselves into the faculty lounges/hall ways by entering behind someone with a card key, or simply begging someone to let them in on some bogus excuse.

So they ended up sleeping on our couches, gnawing at our food within our kitchen cabinets and our fridges, and dirtying our cleaner bathrooms with all their droppings and their marxists anti-war pro-Obama graffitis.

It just wasn't a pretty sight. It wasn't sanitary either.

Not just dead mice/lost research.... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859189)

What the news also isn't reporting, is that because of this flooding, there is all sorts of hazardous medical waste floating in the water underneath/in NYU medical center.

I would expect this to become a problem; there are millions of gallons of water which likely cannot simply be pumped out into drainage systems, and may have to be treated first, or removed for treatment at a later time.

The failure of NYU's backup systems may be one of the biggest localized issues to come out of this disaster. Time will tell,

Re:Not just dead mice/lost research.... (1)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about 2 years ago | (#41859685)

Proof?

Re:Not just dead mice/lost research.... (4, Funny)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | about 2 years ago | (#41859981)

They could just bottle it up and sell it as homeopathic medicine.

Re:Not just dead mice/lost research.... (2)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41860577)

SInce it will actually have molecules of a drug, then no.

Re:Not just dead mice/lost research.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41869489)

Wait - New York is flooded and suddenly there is hazardous waste roaming about?

Wasn't it that way BEFORE the hurricane? LOL

Pinky and the Brain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859199)

Let the conspiracy theories begin!

And let us hope there is nothing of substance to back them up that arises to back them up...

We may never know what all the known and unknown labs were working on or what escaped into the wild.

Captcha: "heralds",,,amusing, foreboding, or prophetic? or maybe just pathetic....

Suggestion (1)

DaveAtFraud (460127) | about 2 years ago | (#41859211)

Move the lawyers to the basement and move the lab rats to the offices the lawyers vacated. Anyone else with nearby offices will porobably consider having the lab rats instead of the lawyers as neighbors to be an improvement. If there's flooding again, we lose a few lawyers, the world is an even better place and the rats survive.

On the other hand, we need to make sure a few lawyers survive. They do serve a purpose since, after all, there are some things that even a rat won't do.

Cheers,
Dave

Re:Suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859501)

But those big windows that the lawyers demand in their offices could potentially damage the mice and cause skin cancer that will not be nearly as much a factor if the mice are kept out of the sun. Very important for research. Let the lawyers live with their cancer and die slowly. Besides, they deserve said slower death over the faster (although probably still painful) death that these mice were given.

Mutated zombie mice out of containment (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | about 2 years ago | (#41859217)

You know it's just a matter of time.

Okay... Gotta be said... (1)

bdwoolman (561635) | about 2 years ago | (#41860061)

I for one...

On second thought. No it doesn't.

w00t!

Re:Mutated zombie mice out of containment (1)

Velex (120469) | about 2 years ago | (#41860169)

Either that or Secret of NIMH.

Sad (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859279)

This depresses me more than the crushed homes. Unlike the people, the mice didn't chose to live on mass in a flood plane in homes not build to withstand the elements.

I remember this movie. (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | about 2 years ago | (#41859319)

Keep an eye out for rodents stealing extension cords.

On the other hand (3, Funny)

oldhack (1037484) | about 2 years ago | (#41859333)

So, mutant diseased rats in NYC sewer... what's new?

Re:On the other hand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859987)

They might mate with stockbrokers.

Obama's Fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859343)

You should thank Obama, he switched on HAARP to get attention away from Benghazi and the various other blunders.

Re:Obama's Fault (1)

Seeteufel (1736784) | about 2 years ago | (#41863567)

Please submit a few details about HAARP.

Rats of NIMH (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859383)

Really, no Rats of NIMH comments yet?

So the rats used weather-altering technology to facilitate their escape to the fields, where they will help save helpless normal mice from evil farmers and their plows.

mod me down please (0)

toxygen01 (901511) | about 2 years ago | (#41859707)

Really, are we talking scientific mouse deaths on slashdot?

Re:mod me down please (1)

CharmElCheikh (1140197) | about 2 years ago | (#41859815)

When I read the summary (I didn't read TFA, ha!) i thought by "lost" they meant lost, not dead. Meaning, genetically modified mice are now free to breed with the normal mice in the wild. What would be the consequences of that, I have no idea. It depends how modified were the mice. Will they bring us new diseases? Make mice stronger, leading to overbreeding? I can't see anything good coming out of that anyway.

Re:mod me down please (1)

toxygen01 (901511) | about 2 years ago | (#41859929)

honestly, please read TFA

Re:mod me down please (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#41860623)

Yes? Why not? The loss of those mice sets back some research half a decade. That might mean 5 years when we could have saved people from cancer, which means a lot more deaths than Sandy caused directly. Maybe. Or maybe not. It's still relevant.

Re:mod me down please (1)

Seeteufel (1736784) | about 2 years ago | (#41863575)

Zombie science mouses with genetic defects are going to infect the NY cats and dogs, and then the fun starts.

I know I should've posted this as Any Mouse, but.. (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 2 years ago | (#41859725)

R A T S !!!

Re:I know I should've posted this as Any Mouse, bu (1)

millisa (151093) | about 2 years ago | (#41860041)

Just for you . . .
USS Lexington AnyMouse Report [arcadium.org]

Took the pic on 5/7/02 on the USS Lexington (CV-16) in Corpus Christi. I think it was somewhere near the engine room?

Somebody grab the VR goggles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859743)

We have some mice to hunt.

DIED not LOST (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859751)

Lost suggests that they were swept out somewhere.

Re:DIED not LOST (1)

tgeller (10260) | about 2 years ago | (#41862507)

Quite right. "Lost" also treats living creatures like inanimate property. They weren't lost -- they were killed. They're dead. One day they were running about and exercising free will, now they're lifeless.

Thanks to the text for getting it right. Shame on the headline writer.

Um, mice are pan-dimensional beings... (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about 2 years ago | (#41859801)

Obviously, the mice [wikia.com] simply took refuge back in their own dimension for safety - duh.
Frankie and Benjy [wikipedia.org] asked me to tell you, "Thanks for all the cheese."

Thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859913)

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Katrina had sharks, Sandy has supermice. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41859965)

This is freaking scarey - did any escape? Has nobody watched 'Pinky and the Brain' ?

In the other news (1)

hackingbear (988354) | about 2 years ago | (#41860319)

Thousands of cats ran away during Hurricane Sandy

Somewhere in NYC.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41860387)

Pinky, do you know what time it is?

Re:Somewhere in NYC.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41869303)

Pinky, do you know what time it is?

I think so, Brain, but *glug glug glug*

Do not build in storm surge zones unless you MUST. (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 2 years ago | (#41861017)

What is hit once will be hit again. Locate accordingly, and have an evac plan if you don't have the option of an intelligently chosen facility location.

Nature doesn't care what you want. It does what it will.

I'm sorry, but the wrong lab animals died here. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41861179)

The mice should have been the first priority, even before the patients in the other hospital. Those patients took the risk of going to the butchers, meanwhile the lab animals had no choice to be imprisoned and needlessly drowned. There is absolutely no reason to use lab animals in this day and age. Computer simulations have taken their place, and there's still plenty of human subjects around. Give them a few bucks (or better yet, a McDonalds coupon) for their trouble. If you have access to a science department, do nature a favor and release all caged animals (you may keep your humans caged, for our benefit).

Our existence on this planet is a privilege, and it can be revoked. 7 billion humans -- the most destructive animal infestation on the planet. The herd needs some thinning.

Re:I'm sorry, but the wrong lab animals died here. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41861453)

You're the type of people the Rainbow Six novel warned us about. Stay still so I can shoot you and your cured and fried carcass with my toast in the morning.

Perhaps merciful (1)

hypnobuddha (2743161) | about 2 years ago | (#41861711)

I'm against animal testing of any kind and sometimes they are treated cold heartedly in the name of science. This may have been a more merciful end for them.

I'm against animal testing (2)

PPH (736903) | about 2 years ago | (#41862013)

They just get nervous and give the wrong answers.

At Least (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41862415)

Splinter is on the go!

Just wait for some kid to flush Donatello,Rafael,Michelangelo and Leonardo!

Zombie Apocolypse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41862555)

Is this how they started the zombie apocolypse?

So long, mice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41863095)

Bet they don't feel smarter than dolphins now...

Blessed Relief (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41863099)

Probably a blessed relief for the poor bastards. Any medical research for the benefit of humans should be performed on humans, not animals.

Use convicted paedophiles, murderers and rapists as laboratory test subjects. Failing that volunteers.

Using animals is totally immoral and inexcusable. So don't be suprised if it turns out the "greys" do exist and that they do use humans as experimental test subjects. That's what we do to "lower" (i.e. different) sentient life forms so why shouldn't they ?

they need to put the suits in the basements (1)

swschrad (312009) | about 2 years ago | (#41864445)

you can always get more empty suits to take bonuses and spiffs. you can't get more (power, boilers, lab rats, document storage, corners full of creepy crap) once the basement floods and is filled with the raw sewage of 20 million people in a flood. so fill the basements with suits, and put the infrastructure on floors 3-6.

They're Lost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41865339)

Perhaps we can use that VR Tech [slashdot.org] to find them!

No Backups? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41869571)

If you have an important, genetically modified line of something as quick and easy to breed as mice (or whatever else you might be studying), why wouldn't you have backups, either in another part of the building (to isolate two populations from each other in case of disease, contamination, or storage failures), or at another site?

As a VERY amateur mycologist interested in developing gourmet mushrooms, I am well aware that disasters can strike at any time. So what do I do? I do my research in a particular lab and store smaller quantities of backup cultures somewhere else. So simple! I don't think there is a common adage about keeping all your master isolates in one fridge, but backing up one's work seems like common sense!

Moment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41869891)

There are some graduate students crying their eyes out.
I'm so sorry...

-another graduate student

What the news!!!!! (1)

Fariha (2766991) | about 2 years ago | (#41872285)

What the news also isn't reporting, is that because of this flooding, there is all sorts of hazardous medical waste floating in the water underneath/in NYU medical center. I would expect this to become a problem; there are millions of gallons of water which likely cannot simply be pumped out into drainage systems, and may have to be treated first, or removed for treatment at a later time. Is it? [uncleshammy.com] Or not? [squidoo.com]
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