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Verizon Worker Arrested For Copying Customer's Nude Pictures

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the time-to-start-punishing-this dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "El Reg reports that two employees at a Verizon store in Florida are facing charges after making copies of a woman's naked pictures while helping her transfer data from an old phone to a new one. The two employees later offered to show the pictures to another customer, but the customer happened to be the woman's friend. The woman and her friend filed a police report. The police quickly got a warrant to search the store and found copies of the pictures on multiple devices there. One of the employees, Gregory Lampert, was arrested and charged with two felonies and a misdemeanor. The other employee, Joshua Stuart, is no longer in Florida, but will face charges if he comes back."

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Can you see me now? (5, Funny)

retroworks (652802) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866061)

can you see me now?

A special kind of stupid. (4, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866193)

Seriously... the Internet has an ocean of nude pictures, and in far higher resolutions than any camera phone could hope to take. You can even get movies in full 1080p of women doing damned near anything and everything you can conceivably think of - be it sexual or not. Nearly any 14-year boy on the planet with Internet access know this!

In conclusion, we know that these two "techs" at the Verizon store aren't exactly carrying a surplus of clue here... ] ...so what does that say about Verizon's hiring standards for technically-minded people? Seriously?

Re:A special kind of stupid. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866327)

You know the iphone (amongst others) can record in 1080p right?

Re:A special kind of stupid. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866519)

It's more than just having naked pictures of a woman. It's about having naked pictures of *someone specifically.*

It's a power thing. Even if you don't intend to wield that power against that person.

Re:A special kind of stupid. (-1, Troll)

zoloto (586738) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867035)

Which is why it's a joke that it went so far as to have them arrested and charged.

Re:A special kind of stupid. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867309)

It's not a joke, it's as bad as breaking into someone's home. The guy who is out of state should be tracked down and charged for the same crime. Make examples of these miscreants and let the people who smoke dope out. This country has such a fucked up value system.

Re:A special kind of stupid. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866825)

As I read on reddit once, "not any kind of boobs, these particular set of boobs!"

Re:A special kind of stupid. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867269)

...so what does that say about Verizon's hiring standards for technically-minded people? Seriously?

... for definitions of the phrase "technically-minded" that prior experience in a food court will more than qualify an applicant for.

a couple of mall rats got busted doing mall rat shit.
not much to see here if you ask me other than that a cell phone was involved and the string "Verizon" was involved.

Re:Can you see me now? (-1, Flamebait)

jhoegl (638955) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866355)

Hi, I was dumb enough to put nude pictures of myself on a phone, gave it to some teens and asked them to copy it over to another phone.
I dont see anything illegal here.

Re:Can you see me now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866573)

Which part of the word "twenty-four" includes "teen" again?

Re:Can you see me now? (4, Funny)

The Rizz (1319) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866617)

Which part of the word "twenty-four" includes "teen" again?

You're right, it's one 'e' short.

Re:Can you see me now? (4, Insightful)

spire3661 (1038968) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866649)

Hi, I was dumb enough to hand the keys to my Mercedes to some 'valet' dude and he wrecked it. Guess its my fault!

Re:Can you see me now? (2, Insightful)

yotto (590067) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866711)

Not exactly the same.

"I left naked pictures of myself on the passenger seat when I gave my keys to the valet and he took them" is closer.

Re:Can you see me now? (2, Insightful)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866915)

No, he looked through the pictures, took a copy and distributed them.

They performed a privacy invasion and a copyright infringement.

Re:Can you see me now? (5, Insightful)

Columcille (88542) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866779)

The customer wanted the employees to copy data from her phone to her phone. Looking at that data didn't have to happen. Copying pictures from her phone to a personal phone - particularly naked pictures - certainly violated trust and evidently some laws. Going on to redistribute those stolen pictures to other people without the knowledge of the original person pushes it even farther. The part that's nuts in all this is you thinking their actions were okay.

durrrr (5, Insightful)

aurashift (2037038) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866063)

This is stupid and pervy overall, but offering to show it to another CUSTOMER? Can't get much dumber than that.

can you see me now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866081)

What kind of a world is this when someone you just met feels compelled to share the information you stole? You cannot trust anybody now days.

Re:can you see me now? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866163)

Nude pics want to be free! Censorship is slavery!

Re:can you see me now? (3, Insightful)

firex726 (1188453) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866417)

Practically speaking there is a reason you only hear about dumb criminals; the mart ones are smart because they don't fucking blab about it.

I'll see people who rob or steal something then brag on Facebook publicly about it; at that point you might as well turn yourself in.

bait and switch story (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866131)

Show us the pictures!

Two Felonies! (5, Insightful)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866133)

Copying customer's pictures to his own device - Wrong on so many levels.

Unwittingly admitting your crime to the customer's friend and getting himself charged with two felonies - Priceless!

Re:Two Felonies! (5, Informative)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866219)

I have to disagree on the first part, as often times techs will bring their own hardware to a site and copy all the customers files of in preparation for a reload. "please save my pictures and music" ( or in a business, CAD files, or whatever ) as no one ever backs up...

I have done it many a time over the last couple of decades, both raw files or a disk image. I always would bring a desktop before laptops, then a laptop, and now just a 2.5" usb drive, incase they dont have a DVD recorder or anything, and of course something to boot off of to avoid viruses. ( as technology advances so does what i carry with me ).

However, i dont look thru them, and they are deleted before i leave the site.

Use a company-owned device (5, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866329)

Copying customer's pictures to his own device - Wrong on so many levels.

I have to disagree on the first part, as often times techs will bring their own hardware to a site and copy all the customers files of in preparation for a reload. "please save my pictures and music" ( or in a business, CAD files, or whatever ) as no one ever backs up...

A tech should use a company-owned device for that, not a personal device, and treat all backed-up data as confidential.

However, i dont look thru them, and they are deleted before i leave the site.

So you follow at least some good practices for confidentiality of customers' data. Customers should insist that this practice be written into the terms of service.

Re:Use a company-owned device (0)

jhoegl (638955) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866361)

I see you have never worked for a small business before.

Re:Use a company-owned device (3, Informative)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866493)

I have, and they always made sure we had tools to do the jobs we were sent out on.

Re:Use a company-owned device (5, Insightful)

corychristison (951993) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866909)

I've had bad luck in this department, one company always said they would always provide me with what I needed, but every time I asked for the proper tool, I never got it. This business was of reasonable size, 7 locations across 3 provinces. Total staff was around 55-60 people. One example, I was in need of a new coax compression termination tool, and they kept telling me to use the screw on ends. Their honest reason behind it was that we could cut them off later and reuse if we had to :-/. While they do work, I always had a hard time with them. Risking shorting out equipment was not something I wanted to do.

Now I run my own business and do my best to separate work from business, but costs wise is tough. A lot of my equipment i owned before i started up, buying a second laptop at this stage in my business is a cosr issue, but on my list of things to sort out before i incorporate. Confidentiality agreements are key here though. I do web design and web app development, so its less of an issue than dealing with their machines directly, qith direct access to their personal information.

Re:Use a company-owned device (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866483)

"Their own" was just to distinguish it from "customer owned", and yes normally it would be provided by the tech's company as part of "his" tool kit. It just was poorly worded.

Re:Use a company-owned device (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867103)

Customers should insist that this practice be written into the terms of service.

Why? It's not any less obviously wrong without the piece of paper. These guys think they're being slick and won't be caught. Having that buried in the ToS on the back of a work order, or somewhere on the corporate site, would have less effect than angel fart.

Nothing new (5, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866135)

Unfortunately this has been going on since the early days of personal computers. Take your PC in for repair, and often times the 'techs' would scour your drive ( or floppies ) looking for 'cool stuff'. 'Cool stuff" could be anything from hoping they find porn and be fairly harmless ( since back then it wasn't as 'free' ) or in more current times, far more malicious and they may search for your bank records or something to blackmail you with later..

Lesson: Trust no one.

Re:Nothing new (4, Interesting)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866277)

I woman I know took her PC in for work and found out they were directing her webcam video to their domain. Now, had she not been techie enough, she never would've known to look for that. Who knows what else they did with her computer?

Re:Nothing new (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866561)

I woman I know took her PC in for work and found out they were directing her webcam video to their domain. Now, had she not been techie enough, she never would've known to look for that. Who knows what else they did with her computer?

I've seen shows were people take their cars into shops to get repaired and the shops take sledgehammers to the car to drum up more sales.

People are greedy and stupid. Always.

Re:Nothing new (2)

sandytaru (1158959) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866307)

All the more reason to learn how to do your own PC repairs.

Re:Nothing new (2)

interval1066 (668936) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867001)

This is why always tell my friends and gfs "If you do nothing else, before you give your rig (be it laptop, net book, or Dell dead weight tower special; yank your hard drive(s)." I know it can be a pain in older rigs, but seriously, there is little reason to hand over your drive. Unless its data recovery (rare), pull out that drive. Keep it in your desk drawer at home, run a rare earth magnet over it, burn it if its an ssd, but do not give anyone your drive. There is very little reason to include your drive in a repair. At a minimum encrypt your home directory; easily done in this day of Windows 7/Mac OSX/Linux. I'm a linux fanboy, I always encrypt my home dir, and my flex-n-go USB whatever... always always ALWAYS. I do all my own installs and repairs and upgrades anyway, but since 90% of these scenarios are hardware upgrades/replacements, the repair tech doesn't need a hard drive. If they complain that they want to see the new hardware in action tell them to use a linux distro with a live install image, that's all they need. I don't care if you never plan on using linux. Give them a usb fob with a live image on it. If they don't know what you're talking about find a better tech.

Re:Nothing new (2)

steelframe (590694) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866317)

This has been going on since the early days of personal photography. When I worked for a film processor in the 70's our darkrooms were wallpapered with copies of the "party pics". When we moved the plant to a new location there were several large boxes of them. I think the boss's kid kept them.

Re:Nothing new (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866459)

Since this was about phones i kept it in the digital world, but yes, i know of lots of developers that would make copies of things for themselves.

Okay (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866141)

Yes, I get this is not upstanding behavior. Is it a 'dealing in stolen property' felony? What the heck is an 'offenses against computer users' felony? Misdemeanor theft, yes. But 'handling lewd materials'? That's a crime?

It feels like most of the laws are on the books just so the police can hit you with a zillion for anything then drop most of them to appear like the good guys.

Re:Okay (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866221)

Yes, I get this is not upstanding behavior. Is it a 'dealing in stolen property' felony? What the heck is an 'offenses against computer users' felony? Misdemeanor theft, yes. But 'handling lewd materials'? That's a crime?

It feels like most of the laws are on the books just so the police can hit you with a zillion for anything then drop most of them to appear like the good guys.

How 'bout "violation of customer privacy".

(OTOH, smart people don't take or allow pictures of themselves that they don't want the whole world to see. There's a whole internet out there eagerly waiting to spread them around for you.)

Re:Okay (4, Insightful)

tompaulco (629533) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866525)

Yes, I get this is not upstanding behavior. Is it a 'dealing in stolen property' felony? What the heck is an 'offenses against computer users' felony? Misdemeanor theft, yes. But 'handling lewd materials'? That's a crime? It feels like most of the laws are on the books just so the police can hit you with a zillion for anything then drop most of them to appear like the good guys.
It is a problem with the legal system. It is often difficult to convict based on the exact charge filed. So if they really want to get you convicted on something, they slap you with everything vaguely related and hope something sticks. Unfortunately, with all the millions of laws on the books, everybody is guilty of something. How many people can honestly say they have never went outside on Sunday without a hat on? So basically, anybody can be thrown in jail at any time.

Needed: a "Stupid" Law (-1, Flamebait)

rueger (210566) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866195)

Take nekkid pictures of yourself with your phone; leave them on the phone; then ask some dweeb at phone store to copy them over to your new phone???

I'm sorry, but what in the hell did you expect??

I really believe that the time has come when the Courts should be able to say "Because you're an idiot, and brought this on yourself! That's why!"

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (1)

Bieeanda (961632) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866273)

As a corollary, I really wish we could mod posts like yours 'stupid' as well.

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (1)

SecurityGuy (217807) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866279)

Yes, it was a dumb thing to do. No, these knuckleheads shouldn't get a pass for doing it. This is actually why i never let cell phone vendors move my info to the new phone. They SHOULD simply move data from A to B without retaining or examining the data in any way. I don't trust them to. And there aren't nekkid pictures of anyone on my phone anyway.

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866339)

Keep accounting or tax records on your computer, or personal files with your information. Then ask some dweeb at a store to copy them over to your new computer???

I'm sorry, but what in the hell did you expect??

Well I actually expected them to copy the files over to the new computer and not make a copy of them. You know, behave professionally and all that.

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (3, Informative)

J. J. Ramsey (658) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866465)

"I'm sorry, but what in the hell did you expect??"

That the "dweeb" at the phone store would (gasp!) behave professionally and not invade a customer's privacy?

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (1, Insightful)

mister_playboy (1474163) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867111)

That the "dweeb" at the phone store would (gasp!) behave professionally and not invade a customer's privacy?

More professional pay might encourage more professional behavior.

But everything is about racing to the bottom and squeezing blood from turnips these days.

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (0)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866477)

I really believe that the time has come when the Courts should be able to say "Because you're an idiot, and brought this on yourself! That's why!"

Does this American notion of "reasonable expectation of privacy" extend to a person shoving other people his or her nude photos?

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (1)

tompaulco (629533) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866543)

Not only is it not illegal to be stupid, but stupid is actually a protected class these days.

Re:Needed: a "Stupid" Law (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866743)

They had no reason to open the files when transferring them. Sure she probably knew this was a possible result, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

Scary Charges (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866259)

Lampert has now been charged with two felony counts of dealing in stolen property and offenses against computer users, plus a misdemeanor theft count and probable cause on a charge of handling lewd materials

Gross misconduct and unethical sure, but felony charges for dealing in stolen property of electronic images he was asked to copy and offenses against computer users?

Nothing was stolen and WTF is offenses against computer users?

Re:Scary Charges (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866305)

When I was younger I felt more like you do. Now I'm in favor of giving them rich, well-deserved beatings.

Re:Scary Charges (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866505)

When I was younger I felt like you. Now I am more forgiving, and dont believe people should be punished with felonies for simply stupid things they did.

Re:Scary Charges (4, Insightful)

theArtificial (613980) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866781)

But he isn't acting as an individual, he's a representative of the company, he was paid during this time. This occurred at a company location, with company equipment. There must be protocols for proper use which were not followed so the employee most likely knew better. If the company made and distributed unauthorized copies of data from your phone and even showed other customers, would you be so lenient had this been your wife/girlfriend/daughter/sister/mother? What if it was tax information?

Let me guess "It's nothing we haven't seen before!"

Re:Scary Charges (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867007)

But he isn't acting as an individual, he's a representative of the company, he was paid during this time. This occurred at a company location, with company equipment.

the company should be somewhat liable then, right? why should businesses get to have their cake and eat it, too? so many times this stuff is just kicked down to the bad employee. make the enabler for once.

Re:Scary Charges (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867059)

He made an intermediate copy, that's a man in the middle attack. The data was supposed to go from one phone to the other only.

Serves the idiot right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866303)

the customer happened to be the woman's friend

Ouch!

Hope the creep goes to jail.

America's idiotic state system (1)

mumblestheclown (569987) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866321)

We have here a case where we know that some guy should face a charge in the USA. but, he won't, because he's on the other side of some imaginary line IN THE USA and some prosecutor presumably doesnt want to file the necessary paperwork (perhaps sensibly given his/her workload - the problem is the basic system, not this caveat). Meanwhile, this woman will not get the justice she presumably deserves. Insane.

Re:America's idiotic state system (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866381)

The real joke would be if he got a job at another Verizon store, in another state.

After all, he's got experience working in a Verizon store on his resume now, right . . . ?

Re:America's idiotic state system (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866935)

Verizon=Roman Catholic Church?

Re:America's idiotic state system (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866425)

That isn't exaclty how it works. This guy in another state won't be hunted down by the police. But he won't be abe to get a drivers license until he goes to florida. They will permenently revoke your license for so much as an unpaid speeding ticket in another state now. And if he is ever arrested or even stopped by police for another matter they may very well extradite him to Florida. Which will probably involve several months on incarcerating before trial.

By the way I don't personally see why this is a crime. Copyright violation maybe. But if i take my home photo book to kinkos for some mending. Is there really an expectation of privacy? Don't want people to see stuff, don't give it to them. Duh.

Re:America's idiotic state system (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866585)

Yeah, totally. This is an issue of freedom, and the gubermint is just getting in the way by providing so called "law and order." The invisible hand of the market should be allowed to do its work when everybody decides not to use Verizon anymore. Although, in this case the invisible hand of the market is probably also the invisible hand of wanking.

Re:America's idiotic state system (3, Interesting)

tompaulco (629533) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866591)

Is there really an expectation of privacy?
Yes. Yes there is. Corporate policy and apparently at least Florida State Law says so.

Re:America's idiotic state system (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866741)

That's the whole point. The USA is a united group of States with a federal government to deal with common threats. If you don't like the type of people in one area, you can move to another state where their views and laws match more of your own ideals. Sadly when a couple states pass the same law all the other states pass similar laws thus making states more and more unless over time.

The larger the population, the harder it is to please everyone. Smaller pieces are easier to manage. The founding fathers knew this and so did many other people. I'll blame the educational systems for why you don't understand this (assuming you're in the USA).

These guys should not get federal criminal records for looking at naked pictures they were handed and asked to copy (wrong to be sure, but not a federal crime). Medical issues withstanding, everyone has tits, dicks, and/or vags. People need to stop being wussies and grow the fuck up. If this women has more than mild mental distress, she should talk with someone for help.

Re:America's idiotic state system (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866887)

Dude, it's all imaginary lines. And the clue is in the name: "United States"

Re:America's idiotic state system (1)

mister_playboy (1474163) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867175)

We're the country with by far the most people behind bars, the country kicking in doors on behalf of media cartels, the country bombing random people in far-flung countries...

and our problem is really enforcement underreach?

I disagree.

Protect your data (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866325)

Stories like this shows up all the time. If it's not nude pictures, then it's the product ID for antivirus or something else. The only thing you really can do about it is to avoid giving access to anybody.

Personally I had a computer which died and had to be fixed on warranty. I swapped the HD just in case and swapped back when it returned. The real problem is for people without the knowledge on how to do that, which would likely be the case for somebody paying for getting data transferred. Once in a while my family states they wouldn't know what to do if I couldn't fix stuff for them.

Another issue is why is there nude pictures on the phone in the first place? Stuff you bring around (like phone and camera) could get stolen, which is why you more or less should plan for how to minimize the damage if it's stolen before it's stolen. Also such stuff is often stolen from places where you didn't expect it to be stolen and hence becomes more careless.

Go big (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866331)

Be a grown up and admit that they are your nude photos. Then go after the Verizon flumky via copright laws. Sure not as much $ as if you had a registered copyrigjt but it is still money.

The techs don't even have to copy the pictures. (3, Funny)

sir-gold (949031) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866387)

My old roommate (who was very hot and used to dance at the strip clubs) took a bunch of nude pictures of herself with her Verizon blackberry. When her blackberry died she took out the card and sent the phone back for warranty replacement. When she got the replacement phone and put in the card she couldn't find any of her pictures or anything so she asked me for help.

Turned out she had kept the (completely useless) vodaphone simcard, and left the sdcard full of pictures in the phone. So now some lucky Verizon warehouse tech has an sdcard full of her nudes.

Re:The techs don't even have to copy the pictures. (1)

Nyder (754090) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866575)

My old roommate (who was very hot and used to dance at the strip clubs) took a bunch of nude pictures of herself with her Verizon blackberry. When her blackberry died she took out the card and sent the phone back for warranty replacement. When she got the replacement phone and put in the card she couldn't find any of her pictures or anything so she asked me for help.

Turned out she had kept the (completely useless) vodaphone simcard, and left the sdcard full of pictures in the phone. So now some lucky Verizon warehouse tech has an sdcard full of her nudes.

I think I downloaded those pics from thepiratebay...

Re:The techs don't even have to copy the pictures. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866689)

Tell your roommate to take new pictures and send them to me and I'll tell her if I can find them anywhere on the internet. Just to be safe.

Stupid is as stupid does... (1, Insightful)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866399)

First of all, what is this idiot doing carrying around nude pictures of herself on her cellphone? A lot of phones get lost or stolen. Nice way to set yourself up for a blackmail attempt. Secondly, don't you think it might be a good idea to get rid of such photos before going in to get a new phone? Those devices that are used to copy data from one phone to another...how do you know that the data isn't copied somewhere other than your new phone? Short answer...you don't.

It just astounds me how careless some people are with cellphones. If you want to keep nudie pics on your phone, fine, but don't be surprised when it falls into the wrong hands. I was at the airport a few weeks ago and some lady sitting across from just gets up and leaves. She leaves her MacBook and iPhone and luggage just sitting on the chair. A few minutes later she comes back with a magazine. Anyone could have just swept in and stole all of it. Then she would have been moaning about being a victim of a crime. She's a victim alright...a victim of her own stupidity.

This is just a sign of the times, of course. A time when people are no longer held accountable for their own mistakes and misjudgments. Take out a loan that everyone, including you, knows you can't repay? Blame the bank. Drive around with a scalding hot cup of coffee between your legs? Blame McDonalds. Your kid is doing poorly at school? Blame the teacher.

Heaven forbid that people might actually take accountability for their own actions. If you take your cellphone into the store with nude pictures of yourself on it and some kid working there sees them then you are a fucking moron and deserve to be humiliated. End of story.

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (5, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866597)

False analogy. First, most people unlock phones and if you give it to a service person it is under the understanding that they are to help, not steal data.

Second, as Bruce Schneier argues in his latest book, Liers and Outliers, society functions on the assumption that most people are honest, and so we don't have to waste a lot of time on excessive sucurity. For example, if we extend the coffe shop example, if you don't always have you car in a secured garage with armed patrol, it is your fault if it gets stolen? I think so, based on the example.

These people got fired because they violated the assumption of trust that Verizon depends on to grow it's business. If I am worried that Vernon reps are primarily there to stea personal data, I will go elsewhere. The fact that the personal data is nude pics is a judgemental viewpoint that has more to do with the confort Jon's own body than the issue at hand.

Tomorrow I will see all these people in these large building just leaving thier cars in unprotected oparking lots, letting thier children run around without proper supervision, letting the public in with no security. I suppose if something happens it will be thier fault, not the malice of the perpetrators. I would hate to live in the world where one is afraid of everything.

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866937)

mod parent up

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866635)

Actually that McDonalds Hot Coffee thing isn't what you think it is. Check out the documentary about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_(film)

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (2, Insightful)

endinyal (2700219) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866863)

For many, their cell phone is their only camera. Many don't have the knowledge (or desire) to offload them to a computer and archive it. That alone makes most people not want to do it. With the amount of storage a camera has, the average joe could accumulate a lot of photos without ever having to delete them. Cloud services make the problem even worse (like iCloud) since a photo you take on your camera can be automatically copied to the cloud service, then automatically copied to one's PC resulting in even more ways to steal a pic by stealing a totally different device. It doesn't excuse their responsibility though. If there are photos on one's phone that could be a source of embarrassment, assume that someone could someday get a hold of it.

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (2)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867075)

Not quite sure why you're modded at -1. This is all too true. A friend of my wife's was visiting not too long ago and showed me her camera - the same one she had three years ago when she last visited. Had a 4 GB SD card so it has a capacity of one zillion little jpegs. She's never off loaded them, never backed them up. They are pictures of kids, grandkids, family events.

She went home with a spare old 10 GB drive with her pics backed up. But some people.....

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866969)

Someone likes blaming the victim. This sounds very similar to the old "she was asking for it" argument. Women who put sexual pictures of themselves on the phone are asking for it. I mean, we can't certainly can't expect the guys in the store to have enough integrity to not steal her personal pictures.

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867017)

The job is to do a copy, that's it. Just transfer the data from one phone to the other.

The idiot Verizon techs effectively did a man in the middle attack, and laws have great power.

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (-1, Troll)

r1_97 (462992) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866981)

You appear to be a Republican. No compassion for the less well informed and trusting. If she does sue, it won't be frivilous law suit. She learned a lesson the hard way. Haven't we all done something stupid in our past?

Re:Stupid is as stupid does... (0)

sribe (304414) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867341)

Heaven forbid that people might actually take accountability for their own actions.

Yes, exactly! For instance, the employee who snooped through her stuff, copied her pics, distributed them, and offered them to another customer. He certainly should (and apparently will be forced to) take accountability for his own actions.

What did you expect (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866523)

Feigned outrage aside, if just about every man out there were in the same position they'd do the same (except showing the pics to customers), given the opportunity.

What makes you think... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866613)

...the only people copying your stuff off your phone are the ones monumentally stupid enough to try to sell your pics to someone else in the store?

Yeah, these guys ordered a side of monumentally stupid and got caught. But you can bet there are Verizon (and AT&T and Sprint and Best Buy...) employees out there doing this ALL THE TIME.

Just say no.

That's Florida for you (1, Informative)

tompaulco (629533) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866633)

I visited Florida once and purchased a lottery ticket. The drawing was after I got home and it turned out I won $14. I read the directions on how to claim which said to send the ticket in. So I did. After about 10 weeks I got a response saying that they had determined my ticket was not a winning ticket. So I contributed $1 to Florida's education system, and some flunky at the Lottery headquarters got $14.

Pics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41866745)

None posted - didn't happen.

Control of information (1)

michaelmalak (91262) | about a year and a half ago | (#41866797)

What do the anti-copyright "information wants to be free" people have to say about this case?

What a slut! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41867051)

She deserves to have her pictures posted to the internet for all to see how much of a dirty little whore she is!

The customer (4, Insightful)

jimshatt (1002452) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867245)

Funny thing nobody seems to mention. But the customer, the woman's (boy)friend must have taken up on the offer. Otherwise he couldn't have known it was her. Right?

DRM/Walled gardens "protect" the user (1)

mounthood (993037) | about a year and a half ago | (#41867327)

DRM/Walled gardens "protect" the user (yea right), but when it comes to protecting the users files it's useless, and somehow blameless: Nobody in this thread blames the phone manufacturer or Verizon for not locking down the software and protecting the user. We know it's hypocrisy to say DRM and walled gardens benefit the customer, but they still deserve the blame for events like this -- they want to control the device, they should get the blame.

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