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Kim Dotcom's Next Venture: Free Broadband To New Zealand

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the take-a-left-at-hawaii dept.

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First time accepted submitter damagedbits writes "So it turns out that Me.ga is only part of Kim Dotcom's resolution for 2013. Even though he's still facing extradition to the U.S. for alleged piracy, Dotcom has plans to resurrect Pacific Fibre's failed project to construct a fiber optic cable across the Pacific to the U.S. The new line will bring free high-speed broadband to New Zealanders and double the nation's Internet bandwidth, setting Dotcom back about $400m." Some of that funding is based on optimism: "Dotcom plans on getting the majority of his funds by suing Hollywood studios and the US government for their 'unlawful and political destruction of [Megaupload].'"

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Romney to take home the victory (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877789)

My muscles are taut like ropes, wound, waiting to be sprung. The dawn of a new week is upon us, an election week here in the USA, where new futures will be determined and new doctine formed. The Christian Right will roll, the loser left will be struck down once again, and all will be right with the world.

Re:Romney to take home the victory (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877859)

Romney's a Mormon, dumbass.

PS stop posting off-topic shit pretending to represent viewpoints you don't hold. No right-winger talks like that.

Re:Romney to take home the victory (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878481)

Mormons think they're Christians. Close enough!

"Is based on optimism" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877793)

First post?

Re:"Is based on optimism" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877835)

Nope. You were pwned.

This guy needs more fibre :) (1, Insightful)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about 2 years ago | (#41877795)

Go ahead and lay the pipe to the US!

How does he afford $400 million? (0)

elucido (870205) | about 2 years ago | (#41877809)

I thought he was only worth 200 million?

Re:How does he afford $400 million? (5, Informative)

Pathogen David (2036758) | about 2 years ago | (#41877889)

RTFA:

"Dotcom plans on getting the majority of his funds by suing Hollywood studios and the US government for their 'unlawful and political destruction of [Megaupload].'"

Re:How does he afford $400 million? (4, Funny)

Robert Zenz (1680268) | about 2 years ago | (#41878211)

RTFS:

FTFY

Re:How does he afford $400 million? (4, Informative)

Kokuyo (549451) | about 2 years ago | (#41878187)

Dude, seriously, you didn't even need to RTFA... the summary would have been more than adequate to answer your question...

Re:How does he afford $400 million? (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41878401)

I thought he was only worth 200 million?

Who says crime doesn't pay?

This is actually cool... (5, Interesting)

CRC'99 (96526) | about 2 years ago | (#41877815)

... It really seems to be a Robin Hood type thing....

The 'rich' taking the 'richer' to the cleaners to provide broadband to the masses for free...

Lately I can't seem to fault this guy....

This is actually dead end... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877913)

He's gonna sue the federal government. That's not going to go very far. We can't even sue AT&T for cooperating with the NSA.

Re:This is actually dead end... (2)

XaXXon (202882) | about 2 years ago | (#41877981)

likely he''ll do it from NZ.. chances are probably a little better there?

Re:This is actually dead end... (2)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | about 2 years ago | (#41878023)

Funny thing is that NZ 'forgot' to demand indemnification from the US in case the raid was illegal or the charges bullshit, meaning that NZ might very well be on the hook from (almost guaranteed) compensation for the raid itself for at least quite a few million dollars and possibly, but not entirely certain, for the billion dollars estimated to have been the value of MegaUpload.

Re:This is actually dead end... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878149)

The FBI shutdown the megaupload servers. All NZ did is make a total mess of extradition.

Re:This is actually dead end... (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 2 years ago | (#41878183)

No, the PM gave an official apology to Kim. That should be the end of it as far as Kim suing NZ is concerned.

Re:This is actually dead end... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878363)

Hm. Needs to remember that strategy. Rob a bank and if they catch me I apologize and walk away....

Re:This is actually dead end... (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41878423)

the billion dollars estimated to have been the value of MegaUpload.

What, on the basis that it would have earned a million dollars a year in advertising revenue for the next thousand years?

Re:This is actually dead end... (1)

jkflying (2190798) | about 2 years ago | (#41878545)

P != E

Re:This is actually cool... (4, Interesting)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#41877979)

Lately I can't seem to fault this guy....

His PR manager is doing a great job, isn't he? It's almost as if rich people could pay for a good image. As if there were companies available who troll social media sites, leave comments on newpaper and blog pages and generally improve your public perception. Oh, wait...

Re:This is actually cool... (5, Insightful)

robot5x (1035276) | about 2 years ago | (#41878047)

he's definitely doing it right though - simultaneously stick two fingers up at the Americans, and promise the Kiwis an improvement on their piss-poor internet.

I think he's a dick, but this is a great show.

Re:This is actually cool... (4, Insightful)

icebraining (1313345) | about 2 years ago | (#41878055)

Counter-example: Rupert Murdoch is rich too, and even own media companies.

Re:This is actually cool... (4, Funny)

second_coming (2014346) | about 2 years ago | (#41878519)

...and is unanimously hated around the world. Such a shame :o

Re:This is actually cool... (3, Informative)

TheTurtlesMoves (1442727) | about 2 years ago | (#41878189)

Not really. I am a NZ'er and I can tell you that the issue in NZ is no one like him at all. Despite the fact that it was an illegal raid or whatever he still just doesn't get any support from the general public. Basically we all know he is a total ass from other fairly public appearances that he has made.

Re:This is actually cool... (4, Informative)

tbird81 (946205) | about 2 years ago | (#41878251)

That's not true at all. He has a hell of a lot of support amongst the computer-literate and young.

We all hate that the major parties sold us down the shitter over the S92a bullshit. Everyone knew from the start the raid was over-the-top (fucking helicopters, that must be a first in a NZ arrest!), and are not surprised that the GCSB didn't know their arse from their elbow.

The guy has done nothing wrong in our country. He enabled some people to upload things to a website - that's not a crime. And just because some people uploaded copyrighted things (based on unfair enormously long, and bribed-to-get-that-way copyright terms) to his website, does not make him a money launderer!

Re:This is actually cool... (2, Insightful)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41878511)

He has a hell of a lot of support amongst the computer-literate and young.

Which proves that being computer-literate and young doesn't prevent you from being gullible.

The guy is just another self-entitled arsehole who thinks that he has a right to make money off other people's work. If you have a philosophical objection to copyright, fine, argue about it as much as you like, boycott the organisations that impose it and press for a change in the law.

But while you're making money off the copyright laws by circumventing them with something like megaupload you're just a con artist, hypocrite and leech.

Re:This is actually cool... (1)

second_coming (2014346) | about 2 years ago | (#41878501)

I get the impression that may be the reason behind the broadband thing. If he brings free broadband to NZ he is going to gain a lot of public and political support there which will be beneficial to him when the big media companies come after him again.

Re:This is actually cool... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878219)

His PR manager is doing a great job, isn't he? It's almost as if rich people could pay for a good image.

It helps when you have a good story to tell though
It looks like US/Hollywood has done some questionable things to get him
Hopefully they will get resolved in court one way or another. Since no one looks good here, it'd be a pleasure to see them fight.

Re:This is actually cool... (1)

cultiv8 (1660093) | about 2 years ago | (#41878343)

lol, wishing I had mods.

Yeah, sure (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about 2 years ago | (#41878447)

Rich people can pay for a good public image...

Perhaps you should have told that to Steve Jobs or Steve Ballmer and the likes. Richer then rich but their public image is down the drain with all the other turds.

Right.... (1, Offtopic)

dugancent (2616577) | about 2 years ago | (#41877821)

Although I support his defense again the US Government, I still see no reason to trust this guy what-so-ever. He's not a trustworthy individual.

I Like this guy... (3, Funny)

zixxt (1547061) | about 2 years ago | (#41877827)

When i first read about him a few years ago he came across has a big douche, but now he has grown on me. I find myself cheering him on.

Re:I Like this guy... (4, Insightful)

subreality (157447) | about 2 years ago | (#41877863)

He's still a complete douche, right down to the bottom of his trolling little heart. I'm not exactly a supporter, but I am enjoying the show.

Re:I Like this guy... (5, Funny)

witherstaff (713820) | about 2 years ago | (#41878163)

but I am enjoying the show.

It's all you people enjoying the free shows that got him in trouble in the first place!

Re:I Like this guy... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878335)

You are aware that your so-called "opinion" is formed solely by the propaganda and lies you read about him, deliberately designed to make him look like a douche, so a few people as possible would protest the MASSIVE CRIMES done by the CIA to get rid of him, to protect a TINY group of organized crime that plays protection rackets and giant fraud schemes (demanding real actual money that took real actual work to make, in exchange for a worthless copy that took *zero* work to make of a original made by somebody they ripped off massively and exactly the way they accuse us of), and is generally completely detached from physical reality and by now would murder for money. (Not surprising, given their constant cocaine abuse. [Which I’ve seen first-hand, when having worked with SonyBMG, Warner and EMI. Motto: No coke, no deal.])

Sorry, you have been brainwashed.

Re:I Like this guy... (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 2 years ago | (#41878377)

the propaganda and lies you read about him...MASSIVE CRIMES done by the CIA to get rid of him...group of organized crime that plays protection rackets and giant fraud schemes...generally completely detached from physical reality...would murder for money...constant cocaine abuse

Sorry, you have been brainwashed.

Also 9/11 was an inside job and you forgot to tell you the guy he was one of the "sheeple."

Re:I Like this guy... (3, Insightful)

subreality (157447) | about 2 years ago | (#41878425)

Actually I formed my opinion well before any of this went down. The guy's personality has been publicly known for most of two decades now.

His latest antics are much less harmful to society, and I do give him credit for that. I enjoy anyone who's a pain in the system's ass instead of causing real trouble. Larry Flynt is another fun one... but both of them, like cows, are best observed from a distance; the closer you get the more disgusting you realize they really are.

I'm sure there's plenty of disinformation being handed out as you say, but I'm confident in my independent opinion that he is still a total douche.

Re:I Like this guy... (1)

brit74 (831798) | about 2 years ago | (#41877961)

I think he's just trying to build up good press. He's still a big douche.

Re:I Like this guy... (2, Insightful)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#41877967)

Your first instincts were right. He's just rich enough now to have PR and marketing guys helping him with his image.

He's an egomaniac career criminal who by pure accident was shot this side of the street and now we think he's one of ours. He isn't. He is the exact kind of people we do not want on our side.

Re:I Like this guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878021)

Still he's either an idiot or a much lesser douche than the MAFIAA to take this particular stance, regardless if it was dreamt up by some PR or marketing genius, he still had to agree to it.

Looking at his bank account, I'd be less incline to think he's an idiot and go with the latter. The enemy or our enemy, even if he's a douche, is a friend right?

Re:I Like this guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878053)

And we want people randomly who threaten to sue people unless they settle out of court for thousands of dollars for profit on our side instead?

I'd rather have this new douche than our old douche. At least the new douche isn't garnering PR by suing the elderly or children.

Re:I Like this guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878217)

Your first instincts were right. He's just rich enough now to have PR and marketing guys helping him with his image.

He's an egomaniac career criminal who by pure accident was shot this side of the street and now we think he's one of ours. He isn't. He is the exact kind of people we do not want on our side.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So Kim while a douche and maybe a criminal he's precisely the kind of guy we want to have on our side.

Re:I Like this guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878523)

No, the enemy of your enemy is very often also your enemy. For example, Israel, Iran, and Iraq. I don't see a whole lot of strange bedfellows there.

Re:I Like this guy... (1)

tehcyder (746570) | about 2 years ago | (#41878543)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

No he's not. At best he is a temporary taxtical asset.

So Kim while a douche and maybe a criminal he's precisely the kind of guy we want to have on our side.

Sure, if you want the public to associate anyone campaigning against the current cpyright laws as a sleazebag and criminal.

Re:I Like this guy... (1)

Mitreya (579078) | about 2 years ago | (#41878225)

He's an egomaniac career criminal who by pure accident was shot this side of the street and now we think he's one of ours. He isn't. He is the exact kind of people we do not want on our side.

No one is proclaiming that he's one of us
But in the recent years the only times I see some justice served is when two large corporations (or other wealthy entities) get into a fight for their own reasons.
I will still cheer for the one who landed on my side in any particular battle, even if that happened by pure accident.

Re:I Like this guy... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878451)

If he can give those groups a swift kick in the dick, quite frankly I wouldn't give a damn if it was Hitler, I'd still be cheering him on.

Give people merit where merit is due. Even if they killed millions.

Best of luck to him. (5, Insightful)

klingers48 (968406) | about 2 years ago | (#41877831)

I'd say that regardless of your stance on intellectual property, if you dig below the surface then you can see there was some very grubby, nepotistic and borderline criminal politics at work in the obliteration of Megaupload and the persecution Dotcom. Not to mention all the collateral damage to busineses using Megaupload for legitimate backups (even if we do acknowledge that a huge chunk of that data was probably pirated...).

I'm doubtful of how successful any court action will be directly against the US government, but if he's willing to funnel it back into the kind of altruistic endeavour he's proposing, I say power to him. I'm sure that LOTR-notwithstanding, It's more than Hollywood's ever done for New Zealand's economy.

Re:Best of luck to him. (3, Interesting)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#41877943)

I'd say that regardless of your stance on intellectual property, if you dig below the surface then you can see there was some very grubby, nepotistic and borderline criminal politics at work

borderline? It was outright criminal...

in the obliteration of Megaupload and the persecution Dotcom.

...oh, you're just toting the party line.

Here's a deal: I'll agree with you if you get your head out of your ass and agree that the e-mails obtained during the prosecution also show very clearly that Kim and his gang actually were intentionally breaking the law on a large scale with the sole motivation of money, money, money.

Or does that not fit the self-made image of the glorious freedom fighter? Sorry, dude. The real heroes don't live in mansions.

Re:Best of luck to him. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878041)

You're right, but still, if I had to choose, I'd choose an evil douche like him with his evil company over an organized evil body like MAFIAA with its lapdog, the US government, any time, anywhere without so much of a blink of an eye.

Re:Best of luck to him. (3, Insightful)

Kokuyo (549451) | about 2 years ago | (#41878199)

It's called choosing the lesser of two evils. The Yanks know a thing or two about that ;).

Re:Best of luck to him. (5, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41878287)

Seems to be all they know. It still leads downhill.

Re:Best of luck to him. (4, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 2 years ago | (#41878223)

in the obliteration of Megaupload and the persecution Dotcom.

Kim and his gang actually were intentionally breaking the law on a large scale with the sole motivation of money, money, money.

I'm confused.
Is it not possible that both things were happening at the same time?

Sorry, dude. The real heroes don't live in mansions.

Agreed. No true Scotsman would live in a mansion.

Re:Best of luck to him. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878245)

the e-mails obtained during the prosecution also show very clearly that Kim and his gang actually were intentionally breaking the law on a large scale with the sole motivation of money, money, money.

Who cares?
You seem to think this fight is about whether Dotcom is a criminal. Even if he broke down and signed a confession right now, that still doesn't quite excuse the indefinite seizure of the servers.
My understanding is that they (US agents who have the servers) expect the owners of legitimate materials to sue if they want to recover their stuff. This has gone way beyond Dotcom's guilt.

Re:Best of luck to him. (1)

tbird81 (946205) | about 2 years ago | (#41878267)

Oh no! It's a 3-digit UID Slashdotter who hates money! Fucking typical.

Money ain't evil, it paid for your computer.

Dotcom did nothing wrong, except piss off Hollywood.

Re:Best of luck to him. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877947)

The intent of copyright law has always been to prevent mass profitable ripping off of other peoples work. ie he is the kind of fish that the FBI cares about,

I find his chutzpah damn annoying myself. The extradition effort was shonky but the investigation and shutdown of his business was always likely. Realistically he is still only in New Zealand because law enforcement proves yet again to be just as stupid as the common criminal, and he can't go to the US to mount a suit because he'll just be saving the FBIs money with respect to extradition.

As to this promise it annoys the hell of me, because he is promising stuff he doesn't have and can't get. Even worse than a politician who is of course merely promising me my tax dollars back.

Re:Best of luck to him. (1)

mattr (78516) | about 2 years ago | (#41878195)

Um, Avatar was made in NZ (Weta Digital)

re the kind of altruistic endeavour he's proposing (1)

girlinatrainingbra (2738457) | about 2 years ago | (#41878323)

re: the kind of altruistic endeavour he's proposing:

Hmmm, altruism? What if g**gle suddenly decided to subsidize free telephones for all: smart phones for the kiddies, non-smart phones for the non-smarties, all they asked was to be able to track and keep and use all of the data they could gather from you (net access, telco PEN trace stuff, hell google could even keep every uttered voice and word and sneeze with their HW, GPS and location info along with timing info of when you are where). Now a lot of people might fall for this and want these g**FoneZ, but would you call the motivation behind this altruism? Or could you perhaps see a business benefit that the offeror of such a plan might get

.

And now to use a perfectly parallel analogy, let's say that g**gley-minds came up with the idea of giving everyone tablets and chromebooks that came with free wifi/3g/cellular broadband access and all had strong umbilical links to the mothership. That's a strong parallel to subsidizing a wide-fiber-pipe from the USA to NZ. Would you call that altruism?

I'm sure that there are very viable profit-making opportunities to be made in putting in and having access to that wide-fiber-pipe: all of his redo-megaupload ideas would then also have an easy route of entry for any US based customers. Perhaps this is the missing step before the "Profit" step in the recipe.

Re:re the kind of altruistic endeavour he's propos (2)

Gaygirlie (1657131) | about 2 years ago | (#41878405)

I wouldn't call Dotcom's plan altruistic, on that I agree with you, but his plan is clearly much less "evil" than the scenario you proposed. The plan is simple: he wants more bandwidth for his new Mega-solution, and he wants to bitch-slap back the U.S. government and all the related parties while doing so. Handing out free bandwidth to all the Joe Blows of NZ is just a means of increasing the profitability of his new venture via indirect marketing effect while also improving his own, personal reputation in their eyes. So yes, there is an ulterior motive, but luckily there are only benefits to be reaped by the common folk on this plan.

I really hope he gets this going (1)

Reesy (1027242) | about 2 years ago | (#41877839)

Quality of connections for what you pay in NZ is awful.

Re:I really hope he gets this going (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877853)

He will be a national hero, if he gets this done. Deservingly, of course.

ta3o (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877847)

Three days from now, a headline on Slashdot... (4, Funny)

GrpA (691294) | about 2 years ago | (#41877855)

Next up, Kim Dotcoms create the New Zealand based MEGAparty, waiting for the day that people vote him Prime Minister of New Zealand - with his election platform based on Free MEGAbroadband for all, for FREE!

But it's ten-times better for those who register their vote for him with the MEGApartyManager...

GrpA

Federal pound me in the ass prison (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877885)

More likely his next venture will be in smokes and use of his ass for smokes.

The only reason NZ is still noticed ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877891)

... on the world stage is that it occupies a quaint 2-3 hour gap between the closing of the NY stock exchange and the asian stock markets. So some of the trillions of dollars of QE1-2-3 sloshing the hedge funds passes through NZ. Can we say high frequency trading? Otherwise, the only noticeable export is Hobbitown (admittedly Weka Workshops is doing interesting CGI)

please (2)

Tom (822) | about 2 years ago | (#41877923)

Oh, please. He's an attention whore and trying to stay in the news. /. willfully plays along. Will it be reported if I make a New Year's resolution, too?

There's probably half a billion people with half a billion business ideas on the planet right now. Why is Kim Criminals' being reported? Oh yes, because he broke a couple laws that we don't like.
How about you support the real heroes today? The ones like the EFF, or in Europe EDRI, who are fighting this fight where it can actually be won - the legal and politics level - and have been doing so for years?

Re:please (5, Insightful)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | about 2 years ago | (#41877995)

Real heros?

How about a guy that got raided by Delta-force with assault rifles and helicopters, a billion dollar business destroyed with no due process, and illegal spying that is pretty close to getting a prime minister redhanded in illegalities?

What has gone down would be enough to produce a pretty damn good movie and you're questioning if he's been through enough to qualify for some support? Are you perhaps a sore dick mad at the world cause someone else has done cool stuff and you never got out of your mom's basement.

Re:please (2)

Serious Callers Only (1022605) | about 2 years ago | (#41878309)

The billion dollar business you refer to was based on dealing in stolen information, but somehow you neglected to mention that. He was previously convicted in Germany for insider trading and embezzlement, and in hong kong for illegal share dealing. He then bought his citizenship in New Zealand. Classy.

Kim.com is a huckster who moves from country to country as he exhausts their supply of goodwill o r is convicted of fraud, and you've fallen for his cheap demagogy. Congratulations.

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878417)

The billion dollar business you refer to was based on dealing in stolen information

O RLY?

Pro-tip: Copyrighted information cannot be stolen, it can only be infringed (by those downloading it without license).

You're an asshole.

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878439)

He's referring to Kim's history of embezzlement and insider trading, not copyright infringement.

Re:please (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878473)

Does his history mean that he's no longer allowed to start legitimate businesses in new places? As far as I know, he's served time for his crimes and that megaupload.com is a completely legitimate business, and he has done zero stealing in megaupload while running it. Why is it his fault when the users do illegal things? Why is he responsible for his users when he assists third party businesses (the MPAA and the RIAA) by giving them control over parts of his megaupload business?

Re:please (2)

ravenlord_hun (2715033) | about 2 years ago | (#41878037)

Maybe because, frankly, they're advancing pretty much none whatsoever? The only time the big music/movie industry was forced to back down was with SOPA, and that had pretty little to do with anyone of those and much more with the public outrage. And even that wasn't a real victory anyway, only a postpone at best. In the meantime, we're all enjoying the more and more stringent copyright laws and extensions of trademarks/copyright time periods (with no end in sight).

So frankly, I don't see those real heroes being very succesful either, to be honest. Might as well cheer for the guy who's story starts to look like an episode from a bad sitcom....

Re:please (2)

icebraining (1313345) | about 2 years ago | (#41878075)

Yes, what /. clearly lacks is stories about the EFF.

Re:please (1)

tbird81 (946205) | about 2 years ago | (#41878283)

The ones like the EFF, or in Europe EDRI

Heroes don't really exist. They're a concept - it's someone who inspires you. But that person may not inspire others.

So while people may have heroes, there are no actually heroes. It's not a type of person, but an opinion about a person.

Re:please (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 2 years ago | (#41878301)

No fight was fought on the legal and political level. It has always taken law breakers to get the law changed.

I do not think it will fly (0)

ComradeMauser (2751597) | about 2 years ago | (#41877925)

In New Zealand people recognize that a thug with good PR is still a thug. The argument that New Zealand needs more people like him to create workplaces is not universally popular either: if New Zealand was that desperate, there is a whole bunch of rich dudes in Central America who, if given residency, would gladly employ any number of prostitutes, enforcers, and drug mules.

Well duh (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about 2 years ago | (#41878483)

Of course there are many NZ people who feel that way, who do you think voted in this government that bent over for American interests?

Any country will have a large number of sheep, NZ is rather famous for it. Just that most countries do not allow sheep to vote, NZ does and even lets them run the country.

Hope Kim DotCom sues the shit out of them.

he's got my vote. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41877931)

Put me on the jury and i'll award him billions.

What the US and NZ goverment did to him was wrong, illegal, and COMPLETE BULLSHIT!
You can't be the good guys pulling shit like that over some fucking media... not something serious... movies and music... what. the... fuck!

So i'll root for the 'criminal' here. Because all in all he's far less of a scumbag than any of the politicians or law enforcement agents involved in this clusterfuck megaupload case.

See america... this is how far we have fallen.. i'd rather support a "criminal" than law enforcement thugs or politicians.
USA! We are the worlds biggest hypocrites! Respect is earned and the USA deserves damm little anymore.
And if i had my way i'd see ALL of the politicians and pigs involved in this case thrown in jail for a decade.

Re:he's got my vote. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878549)

thrown in jail for a decade...

after all we have to send the right message (as judges like to say)

Good luck (1)

edelbrp (62429) | about 2 years ago | (#41877985)

Interesting, but beating a government at their own game by suing their interests simply isn't going to work. It takes arrogance to think you can beat another man's game when the other man gets to define the rules.

Sounds Like a Dr. Evil Formula for Vengence (1)

guttentag (313541) | about 2 years ago | (#41878003)

  1. 1. Sue Hollywood for two HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS for the "unlawful and political destruction" of Megaupload
  2. 2. Use funds to buy 6,500-mile-long "undersea cable"
  3. 3. Use the "undersea cable" to give the people of New Zealand free "high-speed internet," and your new, secure, New Zealand-based "Me.ga" a fat pipe for the transfer of Hollywood's pirated movies
  4. 4. Use the "high-speed internet" to become a national hero who will never be extradited to the U.S.
  5. 5. Use the profits from "Me.ga" to pick up where he left off before his home was invaded

Did I miss anything? I included the Dr. Evil-esque finger quotes. It only works if he can successfully sue Hollywood for that much before he is extradited, and if the people of NZ are willing to turn a blind eye to his motives. Or the fact that you'd have to be batshit crazy to reveal this plan to the world while you're fighting extradition for piracy.

Re:Sounds Like a Dr. Evil Formula for Vengence (1)

Rakshasa-sensei (533725) | about 2 years ago | (#41878031)

The value of MegaUpload has been estimated to up to a billion dollars, not two hundred million. You need to take into account future earning potential.

More information Hollywood and government Roles (3)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 2 years ago | (#41878009)

I believe that a lawsuit against Hollywood and the US government is hopeless. They both own too many judges. However, I hope that some investigation into the matter would bring more light on the US government's and Hollywood's roles in the matter. This whole thing looks like Hollywood just convinced the US government to destroy the Dubious Dotcom, by using whatever Dubious Means possible. It's like Hollywood ordered a drone strike in New Zealand, and the US military leadership had no say in the matter.

Some Hollywood and government folks are a wee bit too cozy together, for my comfort.

Re:More information Hollywood and government Roles (2)

girlinatrainingbra (2738457) | about 2 years ago | (#41878289)

Yeah, but how can you get information about the communique(accent)s and diplomatic cables that passed back-and-forth involving the governmental entities now that the slash-and-burn tactics used on wikileaks has destroyed any of the good reputation / goodwill that a site like wikileaks had? Where can you get information about the rogue partnership that turns copyright infringement (a civil matter) into criminal matters that force extradition without valid criminal complaints (even if there ultimately could have been a valid criminal prosecution, the ends do not justify the means).

.

Actually, the US military leadership probably did have a say: they said "How high?" when asked to jump. ;>)

Re:More information Hollywood and government Roles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878359)

You are forgetting, how TINY the Hollywood industry *actually* is.

Yeah, they blow themselves up like pufferfish. But only because they are constantly on cocaine. (No exceptions.)

In ACTUAL REALITY, they barely surpass things like the toilet seat industry. And they are running out of money... or so they say... (certainly, nobody of us gives them a single cent anymore, and I will hunt you down if you do!).

They never won a single court case where the judge didn't turn out to be one of them all along. Out of a total of only *FOUR* court cases, that ever got to court *at all* anyway. The other ones either ended in direct payments (meaning Hollywood didn't have to show that they have zero proof) or simply retraction of claims (when the payments didn't come, and there was no fully-controlled judge available).

So you tell me what you think their chances are, in *actual reality*.

Free broadband paid for by Hollywood (1)

mathew42 (2475458) | about 2 years ago | (#41878013)

Can anyone see the irony in Hollywood studios providing the funding for unlimited quota internet in New Zealand?

To put it into perspective, currently ADSL plans in NZ [internetchoice.co.nz] start with quotas as low as 3GB for NZ$49.95/month (~US$41.25).

Re:Free broadband paid for by Hollywood (1)

Finn61 (893421) | about 2 years ago | (#41878081)

...and I'm sure internet users in the US will be up in arms if super fast access to NZ servers isn't delivered as promised.

Re:Free broadband paid for by Hollywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878329)

NZ will fix it themselves sooner or later. Personally I completely discount NZ as a potential place of employment simply because their internet access is inadequate. Shame, it is otherwise a very nice country but I wouldn't want to live there.

ymod up (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878073)

Between eac4 BSD

Good for business... (1)

ANonyMouser (2641869) | about 2 years ago | (#41878087)

for him if more people are using more traffic. Also the bandwidth in NZ is so awful that it will make it easier for him to do what he does. It looks to me like a matter of if you want something done properly do it your self.

He's going to try to sue the studios? Good luck! (3, Insightful)

Chas (5144) | about 2 years ago | (#41878133)

Basically the studios have enough collective cash to put him in the poorhouse before he ever sees a dime from them.

Obligatory? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878167)

Why are there no Hobbit jokes yet?

Re:Obligatory? (0)

GloomE (695185) | about 2 years ago | (#41878269)

You mean because Bilbo was also a rich thief who tried to hide his actions and is sometimes seen as heroic?

anchor dragging (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878191)

I expect the us navy will keep that from staying in service.

I want to fuck Kim Dotcom's wife in the ass! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878261)

Kim Dotcom's wife is hot! I want to fuck her in the ass!

Free? Nonsense (4, Insightful)

Lincolnshire Poacher (1205798) | about 2 years ago | (#41878345)

I could buy a bus today and offer people free commuting to work, but that's not going to last much beyond the point where I have to refill the fuel tank for the first time...

He is not so naive to think that he can just hook a fibre link up to an end-point in the CONUS and give everyone in NZ free data transfer.

1. Maintenance costs of the fibre link.
2. Transit costs to non-peering partners
3. Transit costs to "rest of World", you may have heard of it
4. End-mile connectivity for the NZ customers

All these have immense ongoing costs. Not sure how Mr Dotcom's traditional advertise-and-nag funding model will help there.

Re:Free? Nonsense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878497)

You may know a little about running an international network link but I suspect that Kim would be smart enough to get professional advice for specific matters such as the costs of running an international network link. This, combined with his entrepreneurial spirit to find solutions as well as his experience in megaupload means that he might know a little more about his plans than you do.

Re:Free? Nonsense (3, Interesting)

hairyfish (1653411) | about 2 years ago | (#41878505)

He is not so naive to think...

The guy might be of questionable intent, but he isn't stupid. Without having much knowledge of the subject matter, at a wild guess I'd say he plans to cover the costs by serving all me.ga data from NZ to the rest of the world, which effectively makes all peering arrangements hugely profitable since most traffic is outbound. In any case I'm sure he knows more about this than you or I, so there must be a workable business model there somewhere.

Light bulb joke (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41878433)

How many faggots does it take to change a lightbulb?

Only one. If you put more than one faggot in the room together they'll be too busy fucking each other in the ass and will never get around to changing the lightbulb.
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