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Samsung's Galaxy S III Steals Smartphone Crown From iPhone

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the depends-how-you-count dept.

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zacharye writes "The best-selling smartphone in the world is no longer an iPhone. New data released on Thursday by market research firm Strategy Analytics finds that Samsung's Galaxy S III was the world's top-selling smartphone model in the third quarter this year, displacing Apple's iPhone for the first time in years. Samsung announced earlier this week that cumulative Galaxy S III channel sales reached the 30 million unit milestone and according to Strategy Analytics, 18 million of those were shipped in Q3 2012. During the same period, Apple shipped an estimated 16.2 million iPhone 4S handsets, slipping into the No.2 spot for the quarter..." Also at Slash Cloud.

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Samsung is better than Apple (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919377)

That's why. :p

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919551)

No they're not, they're IP-stealing criminals.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (4, Insightful)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about 2 years ago | (#41919659)

What do you think Apple is, exactly? There is prior art for every single patent Apple used against Samsung when they won in Germany, just for example. A funny take on a couple aspects of this: http://9gag.com/gag/5195630 [9gag.com]

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (5, Informative)

Ziggitz (2637281) | about 2 years ago | (#41919889)

Were you trying to be ironic by linking to a site that contains zero original content?

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (4, Funny)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | about 2 years ago | (#41919667)

It's not as easy as you think to be able to hide behind the Anonymous Coward moniker, Mr. Cook.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919707)

Mod parent funny ;)

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (4, Funny)

kav2k (1545689) | about 2 years ago | (#41919641)

Love the moderation on this one. Currently "Informative", but every single descriptor fits if you think about it.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919781)

Everyone is better than Apple. Apple stole every single "innovation" that they have ever laid claim to.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919823)

lol, you're fucking stupid.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (3, Insightful)

poetmatt (793785) | about 2 years ago | (#41919877)

he may be "stupid" by anon definition, but it doesn't mean he's inaccurate.

Re:Samsung is better than Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919985)

Mine arrives today!

Nice Slashvertisement (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919397)

Nice Slashvertisement, Android shills.

Re:Nice Slashvertisement (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919543)

Things have turned a full 180 degrees on Slashdot haven't they?

Linux shills. Who woulda thunk it.

Re:Nice Slashvertisement (4, Insightful)

Ziggitz (2637281) | about 2 years ago | (#41919919)

Kinda hard to shill a free product.

Re:Nice Slashvertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919941)

Things have turned a full 180 degrees on Slashdot haven't they?

Linux shills. Who woulda thunk it.

Linux shills do it for the lulz.

But wouldn't these be Android shills? I hear they do it for sweets.

Purse Phone (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919401)

Around my work we call these "purse phones", because they're too fraking huge to comfortably fit in a pocket. Other than that, I think this is pretty well-deserved. They are amazing phones and make the iPhone look pretty darn crappy by comparison.

Maybe there are a lot of people who wear oversized pants or are just fatties.... I donno... I like this phone's concept, but wouldn't want to carry it around.

Re:Purse Phone (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919483)

this message was brought to you by the small hands brigade.

Re:Purse Phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919521)

Also smells like cabbage.

Re:Purse Phone (4, Interesting)

Picass0 (147474) | about 2 years ago | (#41919643)

I disagree about the size. I own the Galaxy S2 Touch and look forward to upgrading. In terms of size my phone is roughly comparable to the S3. I've never been uncomforartable with the phone in my pocket. Now the Note on the other hand is pretty friggin huge, but it sells so people must like it.

I agree with you regarding the iPhone being pretty crappy, especially the 5. I hate typing on the tiny screen on one of my kid's iTouch screens. The iPhone 5's slightly larger screen is still small compared to most smart phones.

The Iphone 5 is just more of the same-old from Apple. Slightly better specs under the hood, but not a lot for the average user to get excited about. Where's the innovation?

Apple is becoming a follower instead of a leader.

Re:Purse Phone (0)

davydagger (2566757) | about 2 years ago | (#41919761)

apple always was a follower.

They've just sold what everyone else was doing for years, to the masses and claimed they made it all up themselves.

Re:Purse Phone (1)

mlts (1038732) | about 2 years ago | (#41919669)

That is my only real complaint against it. For a phone, I am looking for a compact size with a decent, high resolution screen. I don't want a "phablet", I want something that stuffs in my pocket easily.

So far, the best device I had in the form factor department was the venerable Motorola CLIQ. The screen isn't as big as a Droid X's or an iPhone 5's, but the phone is small enough to comfortable go in a back pocket, and with a sliding keyboard, texting (or just using it as a UNIX terminal) was very easy to do. Why can't some phone maker keep that type of slider design and dimensions, add a better screen, a realistic amount of space (64 GB internal, with a spot for a MicroSD card), and updated specs across the board? Of course, this isn't the phone for everyone, but I'm sure some people don't mind the added thickness of a slider in return for better texting with a physical keyboard.

Re:Purse Phone (0)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about 2 years ago | (#41920019)

Rofl you must be 5' tall.

And if Samsung is the King... (4, Funny)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | about 2 years ago | (#41919403)

then surely the HTC is the Queen, primarily because it got f****d.

Re:And if Samsung is the King... (3, Insightful)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about 2 years ago | (#41919689)

HTC's mistake was Sense and bloatware. All but their highest-end phones are completely unusable, and the high end ones are still crap compared to the competition. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Re:And if Samsung is the King... (5, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41919741)

I would argue there biggest mistake was getting rid of the keyboard.

Why is the comparision made against the iPhone 4s? (3, Insightful)

jandrese (485) | about 2 years ago | (#41919425)

Is the iPhone 4S outselling the iPhone 5 for some reason? Why is the current Samsung model being compared against Apple's last year model? I'm confused.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (5, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41919515)

Becasue Q3 2012 is the last completed set of data available.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (5, Informative)

geek (5680) | about 2 years ago | (#41919519)

These are third quarter sales. If I'm not mistaken the iPhone 5 was a fourth quarter release.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (5, Informative)

CDS (143158) | about 2 years ago | (#41919773)

Which also explains why the numbers are lower for apple. The Galaxy S3 was released in June, if I remember correctly. They had the entire quarter for sales of their new crown jewel. With the iPhone 5 rumored to be coming, everybody was waiting for October and NOBODY was buying a 4S in Q3!

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1, Interesting)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | about 2 years ago | (#41919843)

The iPhone 4 (no 's') is also on sale over that time period. I wonder if that might also be part of the numbers - iPhone sales were split between several models, including upcoming models. (Though the fact that an Android phone was right up there is still news.)

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1)

Seb C. (5555) | about 2 years ago | (#41919845)

Actually, the iPhone 5 started shipping by the end of september, and they sold 5 millions units in 3 days...
So it can be accounted for the third quarter, and not for a negligeable amount...

you can see the numbers here
http://www.macplus.net/depeche-69591-q3-le-galaxy-siii-depasse-l-iphone-4s [macplus.net]
(it's in french, but the chart do not need "special french kiss skills" ;-) )

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1, Insightful)

_xeno_ (155264) | about 2 years ago | (#41919915)

You are mistaken. The iPhone 5 was released in Q3. That's why this includes the iPhone 5 in the sales figures it's comparing against the Samsung Galaxy SIII.

Face it, Apple fans, you're time has come. The iPhone is in decline, iOS 6 is an unmitigated disaster, and Android is going to reign supreme. The writing has always been on the wall, now it's finally coming to pass.

I do feel kind of bad for all the iPhone owners who are going to have to rebuy all their apps for Android in a few years, but - who am I kidding, no I don't.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (0, Troll)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | about 2 years ago | (#41919535)

Is the iPhone 4S outselling the iPhone 5 for some reason? Why is the current Samsung model being compared against Apple's last year model? I'm confused.

You must be new here.

Arbitrary comparisons is the way of the land. On that subject I can also add that the US navy has fewer ships now than it did in World War I.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (5, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 2 years ago | (#41919605)

I hope that was a humorous remark regarding the vast discrepancy between your user id and jandrese's. The alternative is just too ridiculous.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1)

cyberchondriac (456626) | about 2 years ago | (#41919753)

Even aircraft carriers have a slew of smaller support ships that count.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919555)

Cause the period of sales was 3rd quarter of 2012. Iphone 5 was not out yet. In Q4, it is likely nexus 4 will beat iphone 5 :)

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919825)

While I do like the Nexus 4, I think you overestimate its success. It has some of the shortcomings of the iPhone that a lot of potential buyers criticize often, most notably the lack of a miniSD card slot.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about 2 years ago | (#41919665)

Because iPhone 4 to 5 sales are well above S3 sales and probably above the total sales of all of samung's android smart phones for the same time frame (that quarter to today)

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (2)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#41919763)

Because the iPhone 4S is (was, actually) the current best selling phone by total (cumulative) numbers.In that sense, it's 100% fair to compare the two phones that sold the most units in the history of smartphones.

Maybe the iPhone will outsell the Galaxy S III, time will tell.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919771)

Because this is the new corporate Slashdot and details like this aren't important to Slashdot corporate.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919801)

Because they compared the quarter where most people would rather wait for the iPhone 5 than buy the 4S.

Re:Why is the comparision made against the iPhone (1)

ToastedRhino (2015614) | about 2 years ago | (#41919855)

I'm not sure where these numbers are coming from in general. Apple doesn't breakdown sales by device type, but did announce over 26 million iPhone sales in their fiscal Q3 2012 which ended in July, and 26.9 million in their fiscal Q4 2012 which ended a few weeks ago. Either way, the iPhone 4S number is pure analyst speculation since that data is not available.

Maybe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919427)

Maybe if Apple was more focused on actual innovation like they claim and not litigation and incremental updates, they wouldn't be slipping.

Re:Maybe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919615)

Apple doesn't need to focus on actual innovation now that they have a patent for the word itself. It's other people's innovation that they need to litigate.

Its simply a better phone (4, Informative)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | about 2 years ago | (#41919433)

While I'm sure the apple maps thing didn't help, the SIII just seems more sleek and modern. I've had a few android phones and they've always seemed like "almost but not quite" compared to Apple. In this latest round, head to head with the IPhone5 you can't really make an argument based on interface, design, screen size, speed, app quality, etc. Its all there, and I can't help but feel like Apple got complacent. Android has seen revolutionary upgrades to its OS, IOS hasn't taken the big leaps and now they're paying for it.

But iPhone 5? (3, Insightful)

whitelabrat (469237) | about 2 years ago | (#41919447)

The iPhone 5 will absolutely CRUSH in Q4. Not a hater. I'm one of the GS3's in that Q3 number. I was about to buy the iPhone 5 but then Amazon was selling the GS3 for $99 and got my attention. That was that.

Re:But iPhone 5? (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41919621)

Projects are starting to show the it won't CRUSH it in Q4.

There just projects, so grain of salt. However, Apple is have supply issues, Samsung is not becasue Samsung has stronger tries to component and material supplies then Foxconn has.

And The difference between 4s and 5 isn't exactly that great. A trivial amount lighter, and slightly longer, and the requirement to buy all new device that physically connect to the device are all issues as well.

We will see.

Re:But iPhone 5? (1)

djsmiley (752149) | about 2 years ago | (#41919693)

You missed the funniest part, the GP posted saying they didn't upgrade due to $$$ yet expect the most $$$ phone yet to win?

The S3 is 1/2 the price.

Re:But iPhone 5? (1)

jest3r (458429) | about 2 years ago | (#41919683)

No it won't CRUSH in Q4 which is why we keep hearing about how Foxxcon is having trouble making the iPhone5 and they are having trouble meeting demand ... so Apple will say that they didn't meet sales expectations because they couldn't get enough into the supply chain at the right time.

Apples missing features (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919711)

Galaxy S III comes with built-in maps and memory-card support. Apple don't. Also, Apple uses a proprietary charger that is not compatible with any other brand, making this aspect of the S III better as well. Also, the S III can be used as a harddrive for files without any need for additional drivers.

Re:But iPhone 5? (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about 2 years ago | (#41919731)

Was it used or from china? Seems odd you'd get an S3 for $99 unless amazon sells phones on contracts. Otherwise everyone should buy one from amazon even if the thing is too big.

Re:But iPhone 5? (4, Interesting)

wile_e8 (958263) | about 2 years ago | (#41919839)

Yeah, but this is yet another data point along with Android-overtaking-iOS timeline. First it was all Android phones outselling iPhones for a quarter. Then it was all Android phones overtaking iPhones in market share, but the iPhone massively outselling any single Android phone. Now one Android phone outsold the iPhone for one quarter, if only for the worst iPhone quarter, but I'm expecting it to become more of a regular occurrence in the future.

Although a lot of people will be dismissing these numbers as irrelevant outside of fanboi dick-measuring, they do matter. The Android phone app ecosystem was far behind the iOS phone ecosystem until the Android marketshare started too large for it to be ignored, and now they are effectively equivalent. However, when it comes to physical phone accessories, iPhones are massively more supported then any Android phone (at least as far as I can tell from personal observation). Once certain Android phones start selling in numbers comperable to iPhones, the accessory support will follow.

Also, now that Google has started focusing on tablets, I'm expecting a similar pattern on those in the future.

Waiting for iPhone 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919455)

Do they take into account that a lot of people were probably waiting for the release of the iPhone 5?

Re:Waiting for iPhone 5 (1)

EasyTarget (43516) | about 2 years ago | (#41919553)

Do they take into account that a lot of people were probably waiting for the release of the iPhone 5?

No more than they take into account all the people who are waiting for the latest Nexus.

Re:Waiting for iPhone 5 (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#41919587)

And did they take into account that there's more than one way into the Android ecosystem?

The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (2)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#41919457)

...there are better phones, IMHO. For instance, the Samsung Galaxy Note II - gorgeous 5" super-AMOLED display, powerful hardware (CPU+RAM) and stylus input - perfection.
There's even a docking station to connect it to keyboard, mouse and monitor. It's just the kind of phone that keeps a nerd happy.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919489)

I don't know about you, but I like a phone which doesn't require carrying around a large purse.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (1)

darjen (879890) | about 2 years ago | (#41919571)

I don't know about you, but I wear regular size 32" pants and it fits in my pocket just fine.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (1)

cyberchondriac (456626) | about 2 years ago | (#41919813)

Personally I'd like a Note, but I don't think Verizon carries them yet.. so far, only AT&T and T-Mobile, AFAIK. (I'll have to double-check). My old Galaxy S1 throws fits from time to time.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#41919599)

Hmmm, the fact that this is the top seller implies that maybe, just maybe, bigger displays and more powerful hardware isn't necessarily what sells phones.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#41919709)

The Note II sold 3.000.000 phones already, even though not all US carriers introduced it, yet. It's more successful than you seem to believe.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (1)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 2 years ago | (#41920025)

The Note II sold 3.000.000 phones already, even though not all US carriers introduced it, yet. It's more successful than you seem to believe.

Very impressive, particularly since the Note II is WAY over the $199 'sweet spot' for smartphones.

I bought a S III last weekend, I had to call 8 stores to find one in stock for my carrier (Sprint) because they are selling so fast. And I live in an area that doesn't even have LTE coverage yet.

Re:The Galaxy S III is nice, but.... (5, Interesting)

claytongulick (725397) | about 2 years ago | (#41919601)

I just bought one on T-Mobile - most amazing piece of technology I've ever owned. Absolutely stunning.

At first I was worried that the whole Pen thing would be a useless gimmick, but I use the damn thing all the time. For jotting down quick notes, it's actually as usable as carrying around a paper notebook, which has always been the bar I've measured these things against.

In all the technology I've owned over the years, PDA's, tablets, smartphones etc... they've never given me the ability to do away with paper/pencil notebook. This actually has, which is fantastic.

iPhone 4s? (4, Insightful)

grnbrg (140964) | about 2 years ago | (#41919469)

I'm as much a fandroid as anyone else, but GSIII vs iPhone 4s is a bit disingenuous. The iPhone 5 showed up part way through the 3rd quarter, didn't it?

How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....

grnbrg.

Re:iPhone 4s? (5, Insightful)

Juba (790756) | about 2 years ago | (#41919547)

How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....

And many people postponed an iPhone 4S purchase because they knew the iPhone 5 was going to be shipped. So it doesn't seem a pertinent period of time to do such a comparison.

Re:iPhone 4s? (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about 2 years ago | (#41919779)

Exactly. iPhone sales should have been at their lowest just before the iPhone 5 launch

Re:iPhone 4s? (2)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#41919629)

Wait, so you want to compare one model (GSIII) against two models (4S + 5)? That would seem to skew the numbers even more. If you're going to go that route, do all Samsung phones vs all Apple phones or all Android vs all iOS, etc.

Re:iPhone 4s? (1)

Anubis IV (1279820) | about 2 years ago | (#41919899)

I agree. It would not be a fair comparison to simply add together the sales figures for both iPhone models against a single Samsung model. That'd be silly and a somewhat dishonest comparison.

That said, these numbers, while fair and accurate, don't really paint an accurate overall picture, given that many people were waiting for the inevitable release of the iPhone 5 and that many would-be iPhone 4S sales became iPhone 5 sales after its release. I would think that a better comparison would be to compare sales of whatever the flagship devices are at any given time (i.e. iPhone 4S sales up until the iPhone 5 launch day, then iPhone 5 sales from that point on), that way you're only ever comparing one device against another. Essentially, splice the sales figures together, rather than add them outright, with the splice point occurring on launch day for the new device.

Doing so would get rid of a lot of the silly statements I've seen flying around from all sides, since you'd get an honest idea of how the flagship devices for each brand are faring against one another. And that applies both today and with many past releases of flagship Android phones that "come up short" of iPhone sales in the same way. Today, it's the Apple haters/Android lovers crowing, but the Apple fans/Android haters have been just as guilty of this in the past when theirs was the phone supposedly on top.

Re:iPhone 4s? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919653)

I'm as much a fandroid as anyone else, but GSIII vs iPhone 4s is a bit disingenuous. The iPhone 5 showed up part way through the 3rd quarter, didn't it?

How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....

grnbrg.

If you want to do that.. why not add the other Samsung or even other Android devices in too?

Re:iPhone 4s? (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 2 years ago | (#41919691)

Becasue normally you compare versions with versions. Not 'all of every version.

If you are going to compare every version of iPhone sold in Q3, then you need to compare every version of android phone Samsung sold in Q3.

Re:iPhone 4s? (1)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41920009)

Why? Did Samsung transition from the SIII to something else I'm that quarter? Even if you add the Note and Note Ii to the SIII sales it is less than the 4S+5.. You really going to count all of Samsungs feature phones and pretend like it is the same thing.

Re:iPhone 4s? (4, Informative)

Solandri (704621) | about 2 years ago | (#41919743)

It's not supposed to be a fair comparison. It's supposed to be 2012Q3 sales figures. The press is trying to spin it into a story. If you want just the raw numbers from TFA:

Galaxy S3: 18 million
iPhone 4GS: 16.2 million
iPhone 5: 6 million

Re:iPhone 4s? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919765)

I'm as much a fandroid as anyone else, but GSIII vs iPhone 4s is a bit disingenuous. The iPhone 5 showed up part way through the 3rd quarter, didn't it?

How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....

grnbrg.

But you wouldn't have sensationalized numbers making the Samsung look like a better seller and therefore end up on Slashdot.

Geeze! It's all about getting people attention these days!

Next up, how Mitt Romney's loss will cause taxes to go higher, Apple's sales to plummet and your dog coming home with a cat to have sex with.

Re:iPhone 4s? (1)

Seb C. (5555) | about 2 years ago | (#41919777)

Simple :
SIII : 18M units sold
4S : 16,2 M units Sold
5 : 6 M sold

Since 5 is the new 4S, it would make more sense to compare SII + SIII vs 4S+5. But that would not be sa much glorious as it seems for Samsung, and not as much sensational for the press running for an astonishing news...

In the "Samsung finally took over Apple" vs "Apple beats once more the concurrency", they made the choice that would tease the average Joe...

Re:iPhone 4s? (3, Interesting)

Paradise Pete (33184) | about 2 years ago | (#41919831)

How did the GSIII fare against the iPhone 4s plus the iPhone 5 numbers? Seems to me to be a more fair comparison....

Add a little over 5 million. So 21.2M vs. the GS3's 18M.
4th quarter sales will be whatever number they can build. Considering that they are selling every one they make, their "market share" is as high as it could possibly be.
That said, I've been buying AAPL puts (the right to sell at a given price) this week, as none of this matters in the short run.

It will take Apple some time to gets its production run rates up to where it has a chance to meet demand. In the mean time that's putting an upper bound on sales.

On a side note, many people dismiss Apple as just a "marketing" company, and yet Samsung will spend a whopping $11B on advertising this year, while Apple will spend a whopping $11B on machinery and production equipment.

Re:iPhone 4s? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919947)

Then lets throw GS2 numbers in too, shall we?

perhaps because of when iPhone 5 came out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919511)

lolworthy..... the iphone 5 comes out partway through, which of course every fanboi was waiting for. Lets see the numbers for fourth quarter, and see how well the Galaxy S III holds up, then you can declare it "King"

Re:perhaps because of when iPhone 5 came out? (1)

EasyTarget (43516) | about 2 years ago | (#41919685)

..the iphone 5 comes out partway through...

Partway through Q3 (the period this report covers)? I must have missed that, what was the date it launched?

I mean, I thought my colleague was a real fanboi ordering asap and getting one in Q4, but are you telling me you had a super-secret fanboi source who got you one in Q3? cool... what's the URL again?.. I'll pass it along to our local fanboi (if he ever gets off the phone, stops social networking, and does some real work).

Android is the reason... (0)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about 2 years ago | (#41919527)

It's not so much that Samsung makes a better phone (although I have one and I really like it). The Android OS is much more prevalent than iOS so it stands to reason that there will be more phones out there running Android than running iOS. I have owned both and Apple also makes a very nice phone. But for me - feature for feature - the Galaxy is the winner. Android is more open and you can do more with it. Apple is more closed but it's easier to use. Different strokes for different folks.

I think that there are lot of other good android phones out there but they are losing steam. HTC is not doing well for example. Samsung now has the reputation, and rightly so, that they make the best android phone. The fact that it costs the same as the iPhone is no small feat of accomplishment, given Apple's popularity. Most everyone else feels the need to undercut Apple on price to be competitive.

From what I understand, the iPhone is more profitable than any other phone so that should not be overlooked. In the long run that might make a difference. Microsoft doesn't seem to be getting much traction yet with their phone but it's new and that could change. RIM and Nokia seem to be on a steady downslide. So it might end up being a two horse race in the phone world. I'm not sure that is a good thing.

Re:Android is the reason... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919677)

But for me - feature for feature - the Galaxy is the winner. Android is more open and you can do more with it. Apple is more closed but it's easier to use. Different strokes for different folks.

Great post. Lots of detail. Thanks for detailing all of the features in question.

Re:Android is the reason... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919895)

It's not so much that Samsung makes a better phone (although I have one and I really like it). The Android OS is much more prevalent than iOS so it stands to reason that there will be more phones out there running Android than running iOS. I have owned both and Apple also makes a very nice phone. But for me - feature for feature - the Galaxy is the winner. Android is more open and you can do more with it. Apple is more closed but it's easier to use. Different strokes for different folks.

I have a GS3, Android is more open, you can do more with it without resorting to rooting and it's easier to use than an iphone.
And it even has Angry Birds. What's not to like ?

Apple sells techno-fashion. (0, Flamebait)

BMOC (2478408) | about 2 years ago | (#41919561)

Samsung actually innovates. They're not the best at it, but at least they do it.

Nice phone, but not as nice in the USA (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919593)

Why did Samsung decide to shaft the US and JP markets with an underpowered CPU and GPU compared to the rest of the word? It's an interesting phone, but I just can't consider buying it on that issue alone. If they delivered the full quad-core version with a decent GPU in the US it'd be at the top of my list.

Re:Nice phone, but not as nice in the USA (2)

firesyde424 (1127527) | about 2 years ago | (#41919745)

HTC did the same thing with the One X. If I understand it correctly, it had something to do with the Tegra 3 chipset not being compatible with LTE radios or something like that. I personally tracked down an International HTC One X. Cost me the same as a non-contract US HTC One X but I got twice the internal storage, quad core cpu, and a gpu that's at least as fast as the one in the US HTC One X.

And no, I don't miss LTE support. HSPA+ works just fine for me.

Re:Nice phone, but not as nice in the USA (1)

gabebear (251933) | about 2 years ago | (#41919967)

Actually, the USA version has twice the RAM(2GB vs 1GB) and is much faster per core so single-threaded things are much faster. The Benchmarks for quad core phones are nice, but real-world usage shows that a fast dual-core CPUs make a lot more sense(for both speed and power use).

I do hate how Samsung brands a bunch of different phones with the same tag... I'm guessing they are lumping them together for sales numbers. There were roughly 3 extremely different "Galaxy SII" phones stretching 2 CPUs, 3 GPUs, 2 screen sizes. The "Galaxy SIII" has two major models(so far) with either 1GB or 2GB of memory, quad or dual core CPUs, and 2 GPUs. While it's neat that Samsung lets you easily pull out the battery, it's probably easier to do it on an iPhone since you have to sort through at least a dozen incompatible batteries for the "Galaxy SII".

Re:Nice phone, but not as nice in the USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919997)

Why did Samsung decide to shaft the US and JP markets with an underpowered CPU and GPU compared to the rest of the word? It's an interesting phone, but I just can't consider buying it on that issue alone. If they delivered the full quad-core version with a decent GPU in the US it'd be at the top of my list.

The US version of the GS3 is a dual core and has a less powerful gpu BUT it has 2 GB ram instead of 1 GB as is the case for the international models. And believe me, quadcore cpus right now makes no difference on a smartphone but 2 GB versus 1 GB of ram hell yes. That's why even living in Europe I got myself an american version of the GS3 (AT&T unlocked).
But I admit I don't play games on my smartphone so I don't give a flying fuck how powerful the gpu really is.

meh (2)

hottoh (540941) | about 2 years ago | (#41919609)

From the fine article:

"Samsungs' time at the top will be short-lived however, as Apple's iPhone 5 is expected to regain the title to top-selling smartphone in the December quarter."

Re:meh (2)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41919927)

And if you count the iPhone 5 in the September quarter Apple sold 22 million of the 4S and 5. The summary could not have been more misleading had they tried. Oh wait. They did try.

What? (5, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | about 2 years ago | (#41919623)

The iPhone never was the best selling phone "in the WORLD". Only in the US. Worldwide the iPhone's market share is laughable.

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919701)

The USA is the center of the universe. Didn't you know that?

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41919885)

The iPhone probably isn't the best selling *phone* in the US either. They're comparing *smart phone* sales.

Re:What? (0)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41919937)

You are simply wrong.

Steve! (2, Insightful)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | about 2 years ago | (#41919631)

Steve! Still dead Steve? Take that! You good old Android-Crusher zealot.

Burn, karma burn! Let thy fumes rise to heaven. Like from sweet smelling incense. Let us drink and be merry.

Good, force Apple to innovate again (1)

Meatbucket (2039104) | about 2 years ago | (#41919633)

This is good for the whole industry! Hopefully Apple won't rest on it's laurels and will improve their OS and produce a new iPhone with a bigger screen (The S3's main advantage)

I have to wonder... (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | about 2 years ago | (#41919733)

...Just how many of those people who bought the "iPhone 4S" knew that it wasn't a genuine Samsung Galaxy but were only fooled by its similar design?

Shipments != sales (2)

Space cowboy (13680) | about 2 years ago | (#41919775)

From the court case, we saw that Samsung lies about how many it has "shipped". Colour me unimpressed.

Simon

Re:Shipments != sales (2, Interesting)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41919955)

It seems likely that Samsung dumped a bunch into the channel during the transition quarter so they could get an analyst to write this story and get some positive press.

So you meant to add (1)

Wovel (964431) | about 2 years ago | (#41919853)

Kind of...

Fireworks (1)

ultrasawblade (2105922) | about 2 years ago | (#41920011)

I wish there was a .gif file of that guy in the commercial that makes a "fireworks" gesture when mentioning that the new iPhone has a headphone jack on the bottom.

I also wish I could post it here.

In lieu of this, I will just post a Youtube link pointing to that: http://youtu.be/QR8A3T6sPzU?t=7s [youtu.be]

Do you guys want another monopoly? (5, Insightful)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 2 years ago | (#41920049)

I can understand why some people don't want to get an iPhone, but to see comments about how Android will somehow take over and get the most market share is frightening.

The last thing we need is yet another OS monopoly. I'd be happy to see 33% Android users, 33% iPhone users, 16% Blackberry users and 16% WebOS users.

Or is the majority of posters so young that they didn't live through or at least read about how OS monopolies are bad?

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