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Android Hits 73% of Global Smartphone Market

timothy posted about a year and a half ago | from the skynet-at-low-altitude dept.

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eldavojohn writes "Gartner's released a report on worldwide numbers of 2012 3Q phone sales and the staggering results posted from Android have caused people like IW's Eric Zeman to call for sanity. Keep in mind these are worldwide numbers, which might be less surprising when you realize that the biggest growth market of them all is China, which is more than 90% Android. It's time to face the facts and realize that Android now owns 73% of the worldwide smartphone market. While developers bicker over which platform is best for development and earnings, the people of the world may be making the choice based on just how inexpensive an Android smartphone can be. This same time last year, Gartner reported Android at 52.5% of market share and it now sits at 72.4% market share with over 122 million units sold worldwide."

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Suck it! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993771)

Suck on that Apple shills...

iPhone vs Android flamewar (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993779)

iPhone vs Android flamewar in 3, 2, ...

Re:iPhone vs Android flamewar (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993985)

You didn't get past the "vs" and it started...

If I was a greedyJew... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993789)

If I was a greedy Jew, I would steal land and water from Palestinians, then methodically exterminate them for retaliating.

But, then... I'm not a greedy Jew.

Re:If I was a greedyJew... (-1, Offtopic)

Alien Being (18488) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994233)

Keep talking. Your lies give us strength.

-jewboy

APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993799)

Like a soup kitchen bragging about how good it is by how many come through its doors !!

So just eat, eat, eat it !! Why don't you eat it !!

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (2, Insightful)

oodaloop (1229816) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993847)

I think that speaks more to how overpriced Apple products are. How do you think that they have $100 billion in cash?

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (2)

lord_rob the only on (859100) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993905)

'coz the Steve Jobs effect is not over (yet).
But time will tell ...

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (5, Insightful)

jo_ham (604554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994019)

I think that speaks more to how overpriced Apple products are. How do you think that they have $100 billion in cash?

Not really. I think it speaks to the nature of the market Apple sells into. The iPhone is similarly priced to phones like the Galaxy SIII and other top tier Android handsets, but the 73% of global marketshare is certainly not all phones of the SIII's calibre - there are going to be a lot of much cheaper phones in there (Samsung itself sells a cheaper baby brother version of the S-class).

Apple makes the bulk of the cash because it focuses on a small slice of the market, with a highly tuned product (ie, with few options) and in certain markets (such as the US) accounts for 40% or more of the market with that small line.

They have $100 billion in cash because they've been sitting on it it for some time not paying dividends (although they do now), and having multiple highly profitable product lines since the launch of the original iMac.

The fact remains, that the iPhone costs almost the same as a top Android handset. It costs *a lot* more than the average Android handset price though... but so does the SIII.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994145)

> whining about Apple's dividends

Why don't you let me know when Google starts paying a dividend, ok fuckwit.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (2, Insightful)

jo_ham (604554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994225)

> whining about Apple's dividends

Why don't you let me know when Google starts paying a dividend, ok fuckwit.

Whining? What?

Point out where I was whining about dividends one way or the other. Quote the exact text, not just your interpretation of what you think I mean. That's not how quoting works.

Also, you should probably log in.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (4, Insightful)

Applekid (993327) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994189)

The fact remains, that the iPhone costs almost the same as a top Android handset. It costs *a lot* more than the average Android handset price though... but so does the SIII.

Well, like any market with high end offerings and low end offerings, the high end is making up for the thin margins at the low end. If Generic Android Handset Free with 2 Year Contract wasn't sold at cost to the cell providers, there would be no need to inflate the price on the high end to cover development.

Apple doesn't really make a low end anything. Even the iPod Shuffle and Mac Mini are not positioned as competition against commodity mp3 players and cheap PCs.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993909)

No, it isn't: http://www.elandroidelibre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/annapp.png

But if it was then it'd be a serious problem that only a small fraction of the market is profitable.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993991)

Woohoo, a link to a Wordpress blog.

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (0)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993995)

Yes, despite the numbers Apple is still the most popular smartphone OS and is destined to become the dominant player in this space.

</rdf>

Re:APPLE STILL MAKES 90% OF SMARTPHONE CASH !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994027)

This post might have been acceptable had you not made the title all caps and insisted on using exclamation points. No need to get all excited.

Not price - "one size fits all" is Apple's problem (5, Insightful)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994029)

Android comes in so many different varieties. I need a slideout keyboard - no problem, lots of choices. iPhone? Forget about it - one size is supposed to fit all. Need a stylus? Nope. Need a bigger screen? Nope. Smaller screen? Nope. Multiple physical keys? Nope. Add a Micro SD card? Nope. NFC? Nope. FM radio chip? Nope. No choice = smaller sales.

Re:Not price - "one size fits all" is Apple's prob (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994265)

Not true, if you look at this worldwide.

In about 2000's Indian phone market was about 80% Nokia 5510. Everyone had a charger for it and everyone knew the menu shortcuts. There were competing models with approximately same functionality, but no one bothered.

According to this report, Android now has 50% marketshare and Symbian a distant second at 17%. China is the same story, 90% Android.

The reason is very likely price, not variety of choice. Android phones cost 1/3 that of iPhone. The 5510 cost about $100 then, Android phones cost about $150 now.

Chinese love to have the latest stuff. (3, Interesting)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994317)

My friends in China are not "hipsters" who want the most popular item, nor are they "cheap". They want cool new functionality - the latest cutting edge stuff. Not going to find it on any other platform except Android right now.

Uhh, phones != profit... (3, Insightful)

nweaver (113078) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993809)

The # of phones shipped is very impressive. We are now in a smart-phone market where there is just iOS and Android: everyone else is in the noise.

But the # of phones is orthoginal to which a developer would want to target. How many purchases per phone are made on Android vs iOS? Whats the competition? How easy is the development model? How homogenious is the installed base?

All these question are the ones the developers are actually asking, and market share really doesn't come into play very much.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (-1, Flamebait)

YodasEvilTwin (2014446) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993837)

And has anyone besides Samsung started profiting off their Android phones yet?

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993861)

Why would you care?

Do you care if the company that makes your other things profits?

I am at odds with these companies, I am trying to get the best price for the best goods. They are trying to get the most money.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (1)

jo_ham (604554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994071)

Why would you care?

Do you care if the company that makes your other things profits?

I am at odds with these companies, I am trying to get the best price for the best goods. They are trying to get the most money.

Maybe because you want the company, and the android ecosystem as a whole, to thrive?

If you are short sighted enough to not care if the product is sustainable for the company that makes it then you'll end up with things like the abandoned HP tablet, sold off below cost and left to wilt on the vine because they were not a moneymaking proposition. If you want more than just the thing right in front of you right this second, you have to look beyond your own selfishness for a few seconds.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (3, Funny)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994119)

Maybe because you want the company, and the android ecosystem as a whole, to thrive?

LOOKS LIKE IT'S A THRIVIN'!

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (1)

jo_ham (604554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994193)

Maybe because you want the company, and the android ecosystem as a whole, to thrive?

LOOKS LIKE IT'S A THRIVIN'!

Yes, and that's a great thing as long as those in it are actually making money and won't end up having to withdraw. HTC's current troubles are indicative of this. If the Android ecosystem ends up just being Samsung as the major player and then a few others fighting for the scraps then it will stagnate.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994173)

There are lots of competitors, no reason to not move to another one.

That is how android will continue to do well, even if some of the competitors don't.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994115)

Do you care if the company that makes your other things profits?

Yes. Profitable companies are more likely to be around with things like warranties, spare parts, and software upgrades.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994129)

These devices are only used for 12-18 months. So not going to need that stuff and none of them support software upgrades long enough, but open source solves that.

Looter mentality? (1)

jabberw0k (62554) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994117)

How long would you continue manufacturing a product, if there were no profit in it?

If you are willing to work for free, of course, I would be happy to employ you for long hours.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (5, Insightful)

danomac (1032160) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993917)

Eventually the market will be overwhelmed (if not already) by the number of Android phones. At some point the developers will stop and realize there's a whole lot of people in the other ecosystem.

Now hopefully they actually write an app that uses Android properly instead of some stupid iOS port - I've seen so many that are hard to use on Android because of this.

The big thing is that Android is going on cheaper phones - we just got a plain phone here at work with a keyboard for texting, it came with Android and it was a whopping $150 to buy outright. It's no wonder the shipments/sales have taken off.

Not everyone needs a $600 smartphone, and it's an oversight on Apple's part.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994049)

It might turn out to be like computers. Apple does not have a large marketshare of computers compared to Dell or HP; however, they are highly profitable even though they have lower sales.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (5, Funny)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994143)

Not everyone needs a $600 smartphone, and it's an oversight on Apple's part.

Not an oversight. They chose to give up on that 47%. They will never buy Apple stuff anyway.

Re:Uhh, phones != profit... (4, Interesting)

danomac (1032160) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994279)

The problem is artificially confining yourself to (what could wind up being) only 5-10% of the marketplace doesn't seem to be wise for the long run. Look at Apple's history.

They'll have to come out with a new iPhone every three months to keep their profits up.

and the winner is? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993819)

how much of that 20% jump was due to the samsung galaxy s3?

Re:and the winner is? (0)

icebike (68054) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994039)

Almost as much Apple's sales numbers are composed of reselling phones to the same iPhone loyalists who haven't even paid off the prior iPhone.
Apple is eating its young, and it's market share shows it.

iOS 2012 market share 13.9%
iOS 2011 market share 15.0%.

Developers bicker? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993825)

I don't think developers bicker over this... They just choose to develop for the platform where they can make the most money.

Typically, iOS. (Don't cry, please.)

But... (5, Funny)

danomac (1032160) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993833)

But BB10 is going to change everything!

Meh -- (4, Funny)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994161)

wait till the Lumia 1120 gets released in 2017 - THAT will be the game-changer.

Re:But... (4, Funny)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994163)

But BB10 is going to change everything!

You spelled "Windows 8 Mobile" wrong.

Re:But... (2, Funny)

narcc (412956) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994245)

It should. It's an excellent platform, well ahead of the rest.

Given that BlackBerry apps earn the most money [gigaom.com] , it's not a tough decision for developers to make. As we all know, Android development sucks. Developers are already jumping on BB10 at an impressive pace. The app gap will close.

The market is going to look very different this time next year.

most people buy cheap shit news at 11 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993857)

next you'll have a story telling us more people wear levis than givenchy.

Re:most people buy cheap shit news at 11 (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993887)

And AC's buy overpriced crap!

I wish all companies would take Levi's model. No trying on, no fucking around, just get the 510s I want and get the hell out.

Re:most people buy cheap shit news at 11 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993969)

514, show off that man-ass.

Re:most people buy cheap shit news at 11 (2)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994063)

More like show off the wedding tackle. How anyone can stand such tight pants I will never understand.

Re:most people buy cheap shit news at 11 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994263)

Can we get past the whole iPhone users are women and homosexuals stereotype?

Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993873)

Android users are poor and can't afford apps. Hence, they also can't afford a nice smart phone and go for the cheapest Android POS they can get.

Why would a developer target that segment?

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993937)

This is true. Android/Windowz/BB/whoever are losers who don't know you need to pay a good chunk of change for a telephone. I'm proud that my rugged industrial case has a giant hole in the back just so the Apple logo shows through. It allows people to see that I'm awesome without having to waste my time talking to these idiots. Apple needs to litigate their competitors(copiers) out of the market. Apple invented the smartphone, it's their pie. Stop eating out of it.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994007)

Whoever modded this down obviously doesn't have the privilege of owning a real smartphone. Apple's 1bil judgement against Samsung is only the beginning.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (2, Insightful)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994057)

I paid $25 for mine. It makes phone calls and sends and receives texts. I'm still trying to figure out what else would be worth paying hundreds of dollars more for a bigger phone with a shorter battery life.

Oh, I guess I could post Facebook status updates from the bus. Yeah.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (1)

bit trollent (824666) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994097)

You could also post shitty Slashdot comments from the bus.

That's got to be worth something...

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (2)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994113)

You could also post shitty Slashdot comments from the bus.

That is a tempting argument.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (1, Interesting)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994195)

I could post Facebook status updates from the bus.

If you were a teenage girl, that would be easily worth $600 - of someone else's money!

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (1)

symbolset (646467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994125)

A lot of the growth is in China. For many, this will be their only computing device. Android has 90% in China.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (1)

Applekid (993327) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994205)

Because you can give you app away for free and monetize ads and tracking data?

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994347)

Apparently you aren't very involved in the advertising world - there is very little money in advertising ANYWHERE, right now.

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (3, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994249)

Android users are poor and can't afford apps. Hence, they also can't afford a nice smart phone and go for the cheapest Android POS they can get.

Why would a developer target that segment?

WalMart shoppers are poor and can not afford expensive stuff. Yet, somehow, WalMart made a shitload of money. Sell to the masses and eat with the classes. (I think Henry Ford was one of the first to use this widely.)

Re:Android users are poor and can't afford apps. (3, Interesting)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994331)

Walmart profits on necessity spending. How many cell phone apps fall into that category?

I had anticipated this a long time ago (2, Interesting)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993881)

As a developer, my first mobile product will be for Android and I'll do iOS second. My next upgrade will be from iOS to Android as I see lots of other following suit. Apple has been very accurate in shooting themselves in the foot recently with the iOS6 changes (like the new app store and the introduced artificial slowing down of the phone to make you upgrade) and a couple of minor gaffes like the maps, and at the same time charging premium for it.

I am aware of the markets right now on the Apple app store and the Google Play one, but since the latest app store changes to Apple it seems to be harder for new developers to be known and Apple is at the same time rigid with their criteria for app releases, while it seems it is easier to launch and release for Android. It seems Google Play has momentum now and I hope more game developers will make the move over to Android.

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (3, Interesting)

milbournosphere (1273186) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994109)

...introduced artificial slowing down of the phone to make you upgrade...

Have a source for that one? It's news to me and I'll hold off on upgrading to iOS 6 on my iPhone 4 if that is indeed the case.

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (3, Insightful)

Cro Magnon (467622) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994191)

I've got iOS6 on my 4S, and haven't noticed any slowdown.

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (2)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994207)

Thread.sleep()

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (4, Funny)

Applekid (993327) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994355)

Thread.sleep()

Reminds me of one of my favorite stories: The Speed-up Loop [thedailywtf.com] .

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994153)

Enjoy working at McDonalds instead of a five star restaurant if you dump iOS for anything else.

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994217)

LOL. Slashdot - where reality need not exist.

"Intentional slowdown"?

LOLOLOLOL

Re:I had anticipated this a long time ago (1)

Brusco (697112) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994271)

My first mobile product was a bicycle. I was still developing at that time.

Selective Statistics (3, Insightful)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993889)

3Q 2012 would have been when iOS was at it's lowest due to people waiting for the iPhone 5. You'll likely seem there temporarily be a large change in the numbers Q4, with them settling down to something in between Q1.

This happens once a year every year. The alternative would be believing that Apple suddenly lost half their share in one year, which also doesn't seem likely.

Re:Selective Statistics (1)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993897)

*its

Re:Selective Statistics (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993933)

No, the reality is that growth in non-first world markets of android devices is huge. They lost this share not by losing customers but that the total smartphone market is growing far faster than apple device sales.

Re:Selective Statistics (2)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993981)

No, the reality is that growth in non-first world markets of android devices is huge. They lost this share not by losing customers but that the total smartphone market is growing far faster than apple device sales.

Ok, but even TFA agrees with me.

"With the launch of iPhone 5, Gartner analysts expect iOS share will grow strongly in the fourth quarter of 2012 because users held on to their replacements in many markets ahead of the iPhone 5 wider roll out."

Re:Selective Statistics (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994093)

It will grow strongly, but they will not be able to gain back a majority or anything near it.

I don't think apple cares anyway. They want to be seen as a premium brand, and that means not selling the most units.

Re:Selective Statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994293)

Ok, but even TFA agrees with me.

Only an iphone user would be capable of this kind of distorted reality

Re:Selective Statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993977)

ummm...it's comparing market share to the SAME time last year. What aren't you understanding?

Re:Selective Statistics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994179)

And Romney really, truly won. Really! Just look at this chart. No, not that way, you have to stand on your head and squint REALLY hard.

72% market share is not a sales glitch. That is kind of the point. But if you want to believe the fruit company isn't heading back to obscurity, by all means please follow that line a reasoning.

As for me, I will keep my sanity and never willingly touch an Apple product again.

Re:Selective Statistics (4, Insightful)

Nemyst (1383049) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994227)

Apple didn't lose half their share. The market's absolute size increased, with Android being the main player in that growth, thus Apple's part of the pie shrank even if in absolute numbers it didn't.

Also, if I'm not mistaken those are market share statistics and not sales statistics. Market share won't be quite as affected by the pre-upgrade slump, because an important proportion of iPhone 5 buyers are iPhone owners.

free stuffs (4, Interesting)

v1 (525388) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993903)

Not surprising that free software is so popular. Especially when it's the greedy manufacturers doing the shopping ;)

Not only is the software free, but the maintenance and upgrades are being handled for them too. Unless you have a big company pushing you to install their OS on it (MS) this is probably going to be your best choice.

Looking back at the considerable difficulty that MS has getting Windows to run smoothly on a wide variety of hardware, it's impressive to see just how well Android manages to support such a large variety of kit. Kudos to them for that.

Re:free stuffs (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994045)

Exactly. Look how long it has taken the Linux crowd to release something that will work well with all those video cards and wifi cards. Writing an OS for a PC is tough stuff. For a phone I suspect it's much easier. But having said that the power of these mobile OS's continues to amaze me. Android is orders of magnitude better now than just a few years ago.

Re:free stuffs (2)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994187)

Android is orders of magnitude better now than just a few years ago.

The nice thing about Android is that I can expect every new release to be better than the last, unlike Ubuntu and Windows.

The bad thing about Android is that there are so many things they can still improve.

Re:free stuffs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994333)

Look how long it has taken the Linux crowd....

with little information from the manufactures, its not like their slackers.....

2012 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994269)

2012 was the year of Desktop Linux!

So? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993907)

It's still a shitty, completely overrated platform controlled by an advertising company.

Which is not to say I think any of the alternatives are better: iOS is like a straight jacket, WM8 is a mess, BlackBerry forgot to show up to the party at all. They're all poorly conceived conduits for advertising, data mining, and the near constant, ubiquitous harping about APPS APPS APPS APPS APPS APPS like my only reason for living is to justify some DeVry grad develop's reason for living.

Fuck "smart" phones. Give me a fully-functional, fully-OPEN, miniature computer in the format of a phone, not tied to FUCKING Google, Apple, Microsoft, or any other multinational company of liars.

Re:So? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year and a half ago | (#41993957)

So buy a Nexus device and Flash whatever OS you want onto it. This is as close as you can get. Qualcomm will kill any dreams you have of fully-open.

Re:So? (1)

PIBM (588930) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994009)

Just get an android and compile your os with exactly what you want...

Bogus numbers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993963)

Whilst I don't doubt that Android is 'winning' in market share terms I'm very sceptical about analyst numbers.
Good example of how unreliable they are here
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/08/10/apple-sold-5-7-million-tablets-in-the-u-s-last-quarter-court-documents-show-samsung-sold-37000/

"According to an IDC press release issued just last week, Samsung sold 2,391,000 tablet computers worldwide in Q2 2012, up 117.6% from the same quarter last year. According to Samsung’s court filing, it sold a total of 37,000 tablets in the U.S. last quarter, down 86% year over year."

There's more to it than this implies but basically analyst numbers should not be trusted

Re:Bogus numbers? (1)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994025)

"According to an IDC press release issued just last week, Samsung sold 2,391,000 tablet computers worldwide in Q2 2012, up 117.6% from the same quarter last year. According to Samsung’s court filing, it sold a total of 37,000 tablets in the U.S. last quarter, down 86% year over year."

You do realise that America is not actually the whole world, right?

Re:Bogus numbers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994209)

You do realize that if the analysts can't get it right in a single national market, they're even less likely to get it right in the worldwide market, right?

Re:Bogus numbers? (1)

0123456 (636235) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994257)

Get what right? Nothing in that post said anything about how many tablets the analysts claimed they'd sold in America.

Fanboi much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41993999)

While developers bicker over which platform is best for development and earnings, the people of the world may be making the choice based on just how inexpensive an Android smartphone can be.
 
Wow. What a lame attempt to try to get people away from developing for Android. Basically they're trying to say that Android is big because it's cheap and that means that the only apps that go are free apps or cheap apps. There's no proof of this myth anywhere. IOS users are no more likely to buy an app than an Android user. Nice FUD though.

Q3 vs. worldwide in use? (0)

Alcimedes (398213) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994003)

This is idiocy. The article is talking about Q3 sales numbers, not "in use" not "deployed" not anything other than Q3.

Why are people extrapolating that to installed/user base numbers?

Re:Q3 vs. worldwide in use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994183)

Whatever you say, iFanboy.

Re:Q3 vs. worldwide in use? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994243)

Well, he is right. You are wrong. So who's the fanboy?

remember PC/Apple? (5, Insightful)

genericmk (2767843) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994005)

This is a total re-play of the IBM/Apple race for PC market. Google is the IBM in this scenario. Next logical prediction would be Apple is going into crisis in a few years and looks for a new Steve Jobs to come up with something new entirely for which another competitor will play the IBM card.

This, dearest "Penguins", IS finally it (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994073)

Your "year of the Linux on the desktop" you've all been waiting for!

(Except that it ISN'T on PC desktops, but, rather instead, of your smartphone "desktop")

So be happy in that much & yes - Congratulations!

* Quite an achievement, blowing out Apple...

(Yes - Even I have to say that much in your favor!)

APK

P.S.=> Coming from the guy whose initials ARE what makes your stuff run... lol (application package file)...

... apk

As a developer, usage matters to me (3, Interesting)

the computer guy nex (916959) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994081)

iOS apps make me more than my Android apps. One primary reason is iOS users actually use their devices far more than Android users.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustomb=1 [netmarketshare.com]

Fact is most Android phones are the low-price, low-margin variety that are used almost exclusively for texting.

Re:As a developer, usage matters to me (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994287)

iOS apps make me more than my Android apps. One primary reason is iOS users actually use their devices far more than Android users.

I imagine they need SOMETHING to do while they have their phone out to look hip and trendy! Why not use one of those nifty apps to let others know that not only do you own an iOS device, you're doing something savvy with it!

This is the year of Linux. Just not on the desktop (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41994083)

This is the year of Linux. Just not on the desktop.

iOS First (4, Interesting)

vell0cet (1055494) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994255)

As a developer, I have to say that I develop for iOS first. There are many reasons for this (I actually like Android better for personal use).

The fragmentation of the Android platform is ridiculous. Not only do you have to worry about processors, screen ratio, resolution and anything else hardware related... you also have to worry about fragmentation of the operating system. Some people might have gingerbread and haven't upgraded to ice cream sandwich yet. And perhaps their phone can't handle the newest version. On top of that users may not have enough technical knowledge to fix it.

This results in consumers blaming your product. It doesn't work on their phone, this app sucks, the company sucks, etc.

However, releasing on iOS... you only have to worry about a couple of configurations of phone (you can even stipulate that your app only works on 3GS or 4 and above or whatever) and a few different screen ratios/resolutions. It's even okay to force the user to upgrade to the latest version of iOS. Which is simple to do.

This results in people (hopefully) enjoying your app and getting your company and products a fan base. Then when you port it to Android... if the app doesn't work on their phone and they do a search they'll find good reviews, testimonials, etc and blame their phone instead of the developer.

Just wait. Next year will be the year of... (5, Funny)

John Hasler (414242) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994273)

...Windows on the smartphone.

What about malware statistics? (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994277)

When IE had above 90% market share in the browsers, it was very very insecure. And most apologists for IE kept repeating the mantra, "IE provides the biggest target. Once the other browsers gain marketshare, they will be as insecure as IE". Other browsers did gain marketshare, first FireFox and then Chrome overtook it. Of couse, they too have some malware, but nothing compared what Flash and PDF readers have. Even when IE had that kind of marketshare, among the web servers Apache had 70% market share. And it provided more juicy target because so many banks and trading houses used Apache server that must have its ports exposed to incoming connections from the net, unlike these browsers. So much for the IE apologista.

Now that Android is having this kind of marketshare, especially in the East, where they are laisse-faire about installing software of suspect provenance. Now what is the malware scenario in smart phones? Android much worse than its competitors on the security front?

That's nice (1)

sunking2 (521698) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994281)

And for years the Ford Taurus was the best selling car. And the F150 series the biggest selling vehicle on the planet. What are these numbers supposed to say? Especially when the vast majority of those phones are still running 2.something and can't even run things target for the newer.

And yet most of the profit belongs to Apple (0)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about a year and a half ago | (#41994337)

Say what you will, but so long as Apple collects 90+ % of the profits for cellphones, the dominance of Droid means nothing.

It's how Microsoft can claim market dominance of Windows - they charge you lots, while many Linux and BSD boxen get very very small fee

Even if you buy a $200 droid phone, if the profit from it to the maker is just a couple of dollars, while Apple gets tens and hundreds of dollars from each phone, eventually they will eat Droid's shorts.

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