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Google Develops Context-Aware Voice Search For TV

samzenpus posted about a year and a half ago | from the give-it-a-name dept.

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jfruh writes "Google TV, despite bold predictions from the company's execs, has singularly failed to take over the TV world. Nevertheless, the company is still plugging away, and one development that might have far-reaching implications is its new context-aware voice search. 'Context aware' is the key to revolutionizing the TV-watching experience: you can say the name of a TV show, the name of a channel, the description of a show, or the description of a kind of video you'd like to find on YouTube, and the TV will show it to you."

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Sneaky ads... (1)

DaemonDan (2773445) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997547)

Hopefully they don't use this technology to eavesdrop and make sneakily custom-tailored ads based on your conversations. Actually, I bet that they (or someone else) will do that.

Re:Sneaky ads... (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997619)

I like how on Slashdot, the 'evil' thing to do is using info to show you ads that might actual be relevant.

Re:Sneaky ads... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997761)

where what is 'relevant' is decided by the asshole who wants to waste my time with his stupid pitch

i think it becomes pretty damn evil when you can't even opt out

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997987)

You opt out by not buying the product or using the service, you twat. You don't get to use a product/service and also dictate the way that product/service performs.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998303)

apparently using anything developed in the last 10 years...a smartphone or tablet, a search engine, a browser, an email
service, means i've agreed to have my information mined by marketers.

if I use a credit or debit card to buy groceries, my behavior is being tracked. even if I pay the additional cost by not
subscribing to the loyalty card.

i can't even pay to see media without also being shown ads

its getting to be a pretty small world

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998853)

1. Don't buy Android phone.

2. Don't use/install Google or Google Apps

3. Complain about Google on Slashdot for MS/Apl/F'Book etc Reputation Management company

4. Profit.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42003975)

You forgot one:

Don't browse to any site that uses google-analytics, i.e. 99% of the internet.

Re:Sneaky ads... (1)

DaemonDan (2773445) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998053)

I've got nothing against relevant ads, I just wouldn't want my life being listened to and analyzed. Figure out what shows I'm watching and give me ads based on that, sure. Just don't leave it turned on and gathering data while I'm talking to my family.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998519)

Just don't leave it turned on and gathering data while I'm talking to my family.

Imagine if those discussions were to get out!

Re:Sneaky ads... (5, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998539)

ads are never 'relevant'.

why do you think that its still OK to have a 'push model' instead of a 'pull model'?

if I am interested in learning about X, I can search for it!

this isn't 20 years ago when that was not possible.

today it is. its beyond stupid to keep with the push-style model when there's no GOOD reason for it.

note, I said GOOD reason. sure, there are reasons but none of them good.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42000279)

If you'd like to pay hundreds of dollars per month for your TV, sure, go ahead.

Re:Sneaky ads... (1)

aicrules (819392) | about a year and a half ago | (#42000675)

don't mind him, he just assumes the ads are there just to add to an already "obscene" profit margin. Businesses must make money or they can't exist. If they ride a 0.0001% profit margin they are at risk of small changes in business climate making them insolvent. We have a great example in Hostess. They tried to go through a bankruptcy to try to keep the business alive. But they DARED to say that part of the bankruptcy cost cutting measures would impact the Union pay/benefits. Union strikes, already dangerously strained cash flow interrupted, business has to close for good. Think the union workers feel like they succeeded?

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42002441)

Yes, of course. Better to be a slave than stand up for yourself. Welcome to Amerika.

Re:Sneaky ads... (1)

highlander76 (901551) | about a year and a half ago | (#42002615)

Ads can be relevant. The problem is too often they are not and then they are considered intrusive. I would really like some help in wading through the tons of options. A system that learns that I like Myth Busters and Top Gear would hopefully keep the ads about the latest hospital drama away. Ideally it should be a tool to alert me of things I would be interested in and save me from things I am not.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998861)

We're a year or 2 away from every electronic device you own, actually watching and listening to everything you do, 24/7... and not only that, but understanding the meaning behind what you're saying and doing, not just recording it. If that doesn't scare the shit out of you, then you're fucking retarded. Sure, it's great when Googles using it to sell you toasters... but who the fuck else is going to use it? Nothing but bad can come of this.

Re:Sneaky ads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997843)

Yep, every company is getting in on the action. Things we used to consider spying...

Microsoft patented technology to tell the number, age and mood of TV viewers..
Then there was the hullabaloo over the Toshiba (or was it Samsung) user agreement mentioning 3rd parties use of the camera to watch you...

You can bet the ads will be fewer and more auditory when it senses you've walked away to the kitchen or bathroom.

Context? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997579)

Like... I had cable, and I dumped it in favor of higher bandwidth for WoW, but right now I want to watch something that will make me forget the fact that my existence is defined by my patterns of consumption which Google knows intimately and can therefore extrapolate from their database that which will fulfill my dream state for the evening?

Like that kind of context?

Re:Context? (2)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997615)

Like... I had cable, and I dumped it in favor of higher bandwidth for WoW, but right now I want to watch something that will make me forget the fact that my existence is defined by my patterns of consumption which Google knows intimately and can therefore extrapolate from their database that which will fulfill my dream state for the evening?

Like that kind of context?

No, like context extracted in this manner:
technologizer.com/2010/08/22/worst-google-voice-transcription-errors/

Perhaps this is the beginning of interactive AI? (2)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997609)

Since context is the key to understanding meaning and intent, a search engine that could understand what the viewer is currently watching - not just the name of the show but take into account what situation the characters are in at any time, and what emotions they are portraying, this could be the begining of a true, interactive AI interface. Admittedly, there is a long way to go, but with Google's experience in context-based voice recognition, visual search development, already indexing the data of the world, and their ability to throw wads of cash and creative minds at an endevor like this, I wouldn't rule the possibility of a stab at AI being next.

Re:Perhaps this is the beginning of interactive AI (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41999069)

Tangis started down the road of Context Awareness years ago and got nowwhere becuase they bit off way more than they could chew. They wanted database driven software that 'understood' what you were doing, who you were with and what might be relevant to your use of the information you had previously stored. It was an immense undertaking.

Now Google is limiting context to video content, most of which they've collected via donation of the unwitting, where you have to specify the context and someone is getting excited?

Get back to me when I can express my frustration regarding my lack of understanding and this voice driven interface will understand what I need to know in order for me to extend my own knowledge. Then we'll have something to talk about, not just something else to entice me to sit through some more ads.

Does this mean... (4, Funny)

Lord_of_the_nerf (895604) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997655)

...if I tell someone I'm getting up to take a crap, it'll switch to Fox News?

Re:Does this mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998109)

Not even close. That would trigger a scat flick.

Re:Does this mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41999103)

Yes, but not until you get back from your dump. In the mean time it will watch CNN or MSNBC.

Re:Does this mean... (1)

mjwx (966435) | about a year and a half ago | (#41999251)

Even worse, when my stepdad is yelling at the footy it's going to search for Eagle or Hawk porn.

Chipmunk turns into "Kiss my ass" ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997687)

Great. My kid clearly articulated "chipmunk" to Google and it consistently came back with "Kiss My Ass". Looking forward to a TV does that hears as well.

The old Steve Martin gag. (2)

Andy Prough (2730467) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998373)

Raise your children to talk wrong. Remember also to teach them, "mambo dogface to the banana patch" means "can I go to the bathroom"? You'll get hours of laughs when you send them off to school for the first time.

I can see it now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41997749)

TV! FIND ME SOMETHING WORTH WATCHING!

I'm sorry dave, i can't do that. (changes channel to honey boo boo)

Until the networks all decide to join in... (2)

jnmontario (865369) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997765)

Sadly, until the major networks stop blocking GoogleTV access to their broadcasts/content who cares if Google TV can contextually search shows.

Re:Until the networks all decide to join in... (2)

stevenfuzz (2510476) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997809)

I would assume google does? Otherwise, they wouldn't do any R&D until the networks get in line. Everything stops. I think you have this backwards.

(from 30 rock) (1)

stevenfuzz (2510476) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997799)

So what happens if a TV show initiates the voice recognition (says tv listen or whatever in the dialog of the show) and changes the channel on mistake, or deletes all your dvr shows....

Typical USSA Channel Surfing (1)

Ol Biscuitbarrel (1859702) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997803)

"KARDASHIANS."

"JERSEY SHORE."

"MARRIED WITH CHILDREN."

"JACKASS."

"MORE JACKASS."

"O'REILLY FACTOR."

"MTV."

"NASCAR."

"BLUE COLLAR COMEDY TOUR."

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More precisely... (2)

DulcetTone (601692) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997817)

"'Context aware' is the key to revolutionizing the TV-watching experience: you can say the name of a TV show, the name of a channel, the description of a show, or the description of a kind of video you'd like to find on YouTube, and the TV will tell you it's not available in your country or requires upgrading to a package of subscription."

Fixed it.

"Singularly failed"...? (1)

mug funky (910186) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997949)

i think youtube has replaced a very large amount of TV use. it's quite plain to see. my large TV is just sitting there these days, and only gets fired up if someone on facebook says to watch something they've worked on.

How is that context aware? (1)

gr8_phk (621180) | about a year and a half ago | (#41997983)

'Context aware' is the key to revolutionizing the TV-watching experience: you can say the name of a TV show, the name of a channel, the description of a show, or the description of a kind of video you'd like to find on YouTube, and the TV will show it to you."

Context aware would suggest to me that it knows something about what you're presently watching or talking about to interpret what you mean when you tell it what you want. Now I have to RTFA to figure out what the summary botched.

Re:How is that context aware? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998055)

BOOBIES

My wife is a librarian... (2)

MrLizard (95131) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998097)

..and I am thinking of the requests she got when she worked information, and how this device might respond to similar. "Hey, I want this show where there's this guy, and this girl, and there's this other guy, who's funny, and there's always something wacky happening..." The real killer app for this is, of course, porn. Google can surely do it, but probably is wondering how to market it properly. You need a program that can "watch" a clip and correctly identify any relevant traits -- number of participants, actions performed, hair color, ethnicity, physical traits, clothing styles, location, etc. Most porn search engines barely work because the site owners throw in every possible keyword, relevant or not. Or, uhm, so I've heard. From friends. Distant friends. Acquaintances, really.

Re:My wife is a librarian... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998435)

Something like searching for 'the movie where no new babies are born'? Google handles it the way you'd want, bing not so much...

Screwed again (1)

bobstreo (1320787) | about a year and a half ago | (#41998343)

So I bought a nice logitech review the month they came out. Lesson learned. Never buy a gen 1 google device.

That isn't a context aware search (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41998439)

Providing all the context IN a search is NOT a context aware search.

The Future is Always Just Around the Corner (1)

Epicaxia (2773451) | about a year and a half ago | (#41999311)

TV is, strangely, one of those things that's begging to be reinvented in a way that integrates all of the great potential of internet + TV + consoles + disc players + multi-channel / caching devices, etc. Typically we'd look to Apple [apple.com] to show everyone how a problem like this really should be solved, but I think we all know how well that's gone [youtube.com]. Speaking for myself, I will continue to simply plug in my laptop to my flatscreen's HDMI port and not bother with silly things like cable or satellite subscriptions. Until you can give me a way, for example, to watch HBO (and not Lifetime, or MSNBC, or any of the other 500 channels I'd never touch with a 31.5-foot pole) without paying hundreds of dollars a month for the Super Platinum Ultra cable package, the value just isn't there. A handful of networked (and some cable) shows are already doing this on Hulu, but the push for Hulu Plus subscriptions (and accompanying limitations on free Hulu) is really starting to get annoying.

In the long run, I think Google's approach is the one that time will show to be the winner. They're constantly looking for ways to extend search for better monetization (and after all the hammer thinks everything is a nail), but I think that's going to be the sustainable market path that can eventually take us to a day when I can--for example--pay a $10 subscription fee to watch real-time releases of Game of Thrones in the same way I can pay a modest fee for privileged access to my favorite Twitch channels [twitch.tv]. When the monetization comes full circle, and starts feeding back into investment and production of shows, it will produce a much tighter feedback loop and much better programming, much the same way cable did when it originally had its heyday so many years ago.

It's 2012 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#41999725)

Who still has a television anyway?

me experience (1)

tatman (1076111) | about a year and a half ago | (#42001553)

I was an early "adopter" and quickly abandon google TV. Part of the problem was it was dependent on me having either satellite or cable. And part of the problem was my perception that it could get rid of cable or satellite. And from what I have read and heard, that's been most peoples experience. Its really nothing more than a "android" console in the entertainment cabinet.

The oil lamp. Now with clapper switch! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42002381)

This is like adding clap-activated on/off-switching to an *oil lamp*. Or a speedometer to a *horse carriage*.

TV died a decade ago. Some backwards rednecks of course linger on. But who gives a fuck about them? They are *always* decades behind.

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