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The Downside of Warp Drives: Annihilating Whole Star Systems When You Arrive

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the minor-details dept.

NASA 235

MrSeb writes "The dream of faster-than-light travel has been on the mind of humanity for generations. Until recently, though, it was restricted to the realm of pure science fiction. Theoretical mechanisms for warp drives have been posited by science, some of which actually jive quite nicely with what we know of physics. Of course, that doesn't mean they're actually going to work, though. NASA researchers recently revisited the Alcubierre warp drive and concluded that its power requirements were not as impossible as once thought. However, a new analysis from the University of Sydney claims that using a warp drive of this design comes with a drawback. Specifically, it could cause cataclysmic explosions at your destination."

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235 comments

Not the destination that matters (5, Funny)

discord5 (798235) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004387)

It's not the destination that matters, it's how you get there. Nothing stresses this as much as blowing up your destination when you get there.

Re:Not the destination that matters (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004935)

And you can fly
High as a kite if you want to
Faster than light if you want to
Speeding through the universe
Thinking is the best way to travel

It's all a dream
Light passing by on the screen
And there's you and I on the beam
Speeding through the universe
Thinking is the best way to travel

We ride the waves
(From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/moody-blues-lyrics/the-best-way-to-travel-lyrics.html [elyrics.net] )
Distance is gone, will we find out?
How life began, will be find out?
Speeding through the universe
Thinking is the best way to travel

And you can fly
High as a kite if you want to
Faster than light if you want to
Speeding through the universe
Thinking is the best way to travel

Re:Not the destination that matters (5, Funny)

sycodon (149926) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005067)

Crap, now the Environmentalists are going to get involved. It will never be built now.

Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (5, Funny)

Nadaka (224565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004393)

Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system for interstellar conflict.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (5, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004537)

The longer the journey lasts, the more of these dangerous particles build up. This doesn’t affect the ability of the warp drive to keep bending the laws of the universe — it’s the stopping that’s going to ruin your day.

Somebody set us up the bomb!

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (4, Funny)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004789)

So it really is the sudden stop at the end that gets you...

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005087)

Somebody set us up the bomb!

Actually, it reminded me of the Picard manoeuvre...

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (4, Funny)

Zephyn (415698) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005379)

Somebody set us up the bomb!

Actually, it reminded me of the Picard manoeuvre...

Or the Samantha Carter maneuver...

"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on water."

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005249)

Turn in your geek card; it's "set up us the bomb".

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (2)

PlastikMissle (2498382) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005073)

Excellent! Now can get the military to spend money on researching FTL.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (1)

samcan (1349105) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005129)

I think it was the short story, "The Variable Man," that dealt with a warp drive system that was to be used as a weapon for blowing up their enemy's star system's star.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005155)

This explains why SETI never finds anything. All it takes is one drunk captain of a warpship to vaporize a solar system.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (4, Funny)

hamburger lady (218108) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005217)

now we know what really causes those gamma ray bursts we detect from time to time.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (1)

jonfr (888673) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005333)

I am sure that it is being used in such a way somewhere in the universe already.

Re:Downside? Sounds like a perfect weapon system (4, Funny)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005411)

Sounds like a perfect weapon system for interstellar conflict.

Somewhere in the Milky Way galaxy, K'breel, Speaker of the Council, suddenly gets an idea....

Military applications (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004395)

Great for our first intergalactic war!

Dupe story (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004397)

This is old news, discussed in March:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/03/02/1741252/warp-drives-may-come-with-a-killer-downside

Re:Dupe story (4, Informative)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004491)

discussed in March

Also discussed on Star Trek:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Force_of_Nature_(episode) [memory-alpha.org]

Re:Dupe story (3, Informative)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004925)

While the parallels are amusing, the issue in Star Trek was that subspace itself got damaged because of warp engines. There doesn't seem to be word yet on whether or not Alcubierre drives make any equivalent damage to the fabric of the universe, such as leaving a permanent distortion in spacetime once they've passed. (But it might be hilarious if they did.)

Re:Dupe story (3, Interesting)

elewton (1743958) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005023)

So more like the Soliton wave.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/New_Ground_(episode) [memory-alpha.org]

Re:Dupe story (1)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005399)

...I hadn't thought of that. Quite a lot like the Soliton wave, in fact!

Re:Dupe story (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005329)

It won't. Everything moves to the lowest energy state.

No problem. Make swords from plows (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004425)

Warp drive becomes warp weapon.

Duh (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004427)

That's why you drop to impulse _before_ you go into the star system

Re:Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004639)

At which point you can't possibly get there before the "wave of doom".

Re:Duh (4, Interesting)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004809)

So why not stop off the ecliptic so your 'wave of doom' flies off into intergalactic space, then warp downwards and leave on the far side of the destination system, again throwing the 'wave of doom' off into intergalactic space?

Or is the wave not directional?

That explains it (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005433)

Maybe that's what these gamma ray bursts we observe are all about.

Re:Duh (1)

dywolf (2673597) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004687)

Nah. What better way to remove indigenous species to make it easier to colonize!?

Re:Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005045)

Or just stop a couple of times on the way. Flush out the baffles.

Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (5, Insightful)

FilmedInNoir (1392323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004449)

If we have enough tech to make a warp drive we can probably disperse energy on route as opposed to all of it at the end of the trip.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004625)

...or collect it.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (5, Interesting)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004637)

If we have the technology to make a negative gravitational gradient (which all the FTL theoretical engines require, incidentally) you can do a lot of neat stuff. Make a ball of negative mass matter and let go and watch it shoot straight up just for kicks. Of course, there's absolutely no reason to expect that such a material is possible; oh sure, the math works out if you assume it can exist, but that doesn't mean that it is physically possible.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004969)

well, whatever ``gravity particle'' that's detected will likely fall in line of quantum mechanics---meaning it will cause interference patterns... and just like noise canceling headphones, you should be able to cancel out gravity (no anti-gravity necessary).

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004711)

Or make the trip in a series of much smaller jumps, so you don't build up enough energy to do any damage. Still might have to drop out a few hours from your destination, but it is by no means an unsurmountable problem.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004835)

Creative maneuvering might help too. I'm assuming the wave projects along your vector and not in a spherical manner.

Eg, warp to a point above the galactic ecliptic, so your wave shoots off into deep space. Then, for the final leg, warp down into the plane and exit warp on the far side of the destination system, again shooting the wave off into deep space.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (1)

Cenan (1892902) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005301)

Sounds much like solving the problem by pointing it at somebody else. If there's no limit to the amount of energy you can pick up with an Alcubierre warp drive, then not dealing with just makes it suck for somebody other than you.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (2)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005357)

If you manage to make a coherent beam, you've done something difficult and amazing. Modify anything to make it a cone. A cone will eventually spread quite wide, which reduces the energy-per-surface-area, making it less dangerous. A sphere is just a number of cones, for example. (An infinite number of cones, actually)

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (4, Interesting)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004951)

Failing that, you could make a collector that ships need to aim their build-up into. All it would take is a static warp bubble at the destination, which could then be relaxed under more controlled circumstances to recover the high-energy particles.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005099)

Wow, an informative and well written post on /. I've missed those.

Re:Theoritical fix for theoritical problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005385)

*en* route

Duh... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004475)

FTA:

"Although we often think of space as empty, there are loads of high-energy particles shooting through the void. The University of Sydney research [PDF] indicates that these particles are liable to get swept up in the craft’s warp field and remain trapped in the stable bubble."

And

"All the energetic particles trapped during the journey have to go somewhere, and the researchers believe they would be blasted outward in a cone directly in front of the ship. Anyone or anything waiting for you at the other end of your trip would be destroyed."

Looks like SOMEONES never heard of Bussard collectors.... [memory-alpha.org]

Re:Duh... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004759)

It's a good thing. Nothing is worse than coming out of warp into the middle of a previously-undetected asteroid field. Now, with this technology you can blow it away before exiting, leaving nothing but clean, pristine space for your arrival.

"It’s the stopping that’s going to rui (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004529)

That's right. You have to slow down first.

Fucking Slashdot ruined my post! (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004573)

"it’s the stopping that’s going to ruin your day" showed up complete in the preview...

Re:Fucking Slashdot ruined my post! (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004851)

That's why you should stop putting parts of your post in the subject. It's called the Subject field, not the body field, for a reason.

Re:Fucking Slashdot ruined my post! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005405)

That's why you should stop putting parts of your post in the subject. It's called the Subject field, not the body field, for a reason.

But if he doesn't get as much as possible of what he's saying out on the screen AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, it might be too slow for you, you might choose not read it, and then he would Lose(tm)! Isn't that TERRIBLE?!?

This way, he can force you to read a part of his incredible wisdom, meaning he wins already! After all, what's more compelling a read than a fragment of a sentence? What's the rest of it say? WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY SAY? THERE'S A BIT OF A SENTENCE THERE, WHERE'S THE REST OH GOD I'M MISSING SOMETHING! IT'S RIGHT THERE! I HAVE TO INSPECT IT OR I MIGHT MISS 100% COMPLETION!!! And since the author can safely assume everyone suffers the same degree of OCD he does*, he'll get readers every time!

*: Statement not evaluated for accuracy.

Re:Fucking Slashdot ruined my post! (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004879)

"it’s the stopping that’s going to ruin your day" showed up complete in the preview...

It was probably too long. When I replied I noticed that you've got two HTML rsquos in it, which, together with the ampersands and semicolons, makes your subject 12 characters longer than it looks.

Re:"It’s the stopping that’s going to (4, Funny)

danbert8 (1024253) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004601)

BULLSHIT. Stop, I order you STOP!!!!

Re:"It’s the stopping that’s going to (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004869)

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Re:"It’s the stopping that’s going to (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004839)

That's right. You have to slow down first.

Kind of like when you fall off a building.

They figured out how to weaponize it... (5, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004545)

This will GUARANTEE it will be made. It is now a military project, warp cruise missle, set it to the destination via a nice long route and have it drop out of warp near the other planet or star...... KABOOM!...

Freaking A, take that Omicron Persei 8!

Re:They figured out how to weaponize it... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004689)

Actually, this would be a very good thing.
You know those killer asteroids they warn us about? Well, seems we finally have a way of dealing with them that does not involve Bruce Willis.
Full steam ahead I say.

Re:They figured out how to weaponize it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004963)

FOOL! YOU THINK THIS SCARES US? BEFORE IT EXITS YOUR ATMOSPHERE, WE WILL SHOOT IT DOWN AND PERFORM THE FOLLOWING :

- Eat your INFERIOR LEADER.
- Eat your INFERIOR HIPPIES
- Heat your PLANET BY 1,000,000 degrees PER DAY
- Throw in OUR SUPERIOR LAUNDRY in the washer with YOUR INFERIOR LAUNDRY.

WE EXPECT YOU TO GROVEL AT OUR FEET BY 12:00:00 AM UTC

Re:They figured out how to weaponize it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005259)

Why am I reminded of red robot by kompressor here....

And that is why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004577)

Science fiction stories always said you can't use warp drive inside a star system. Pay attention, scientists.

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004603)

Now we know why we've seen signs of other civilization: FTL Doomsday Weapons.

This is great news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004605)

Once the military finds out, NASA's funding problems will be a thing of the past.

Useful.. (1)

Simon Rowe (1206316) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004663)

for visiting the mother-in-law.

What ships can't be pointed? (1)

MouseTheLuckyDog (2752443) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004681)

The simple solution is to point the ship slightly above the galactic plane when accelerating and slightly below the galatic plane when landing,. The damaging wave leaves the galaxy and dissipates before doing damage. Well except to any possible intergalactic ships.

Just land behind your destination (1)

zbobet2012 (1025836) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004697)

Than turn around and come back. As long as the energy has the room to dissipate between the stars nothing should be hurt.

Re:Just land behind your destination (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005051)

Of course, feckin' Aussies trying to ruin warp speed for us, after what they did to beer, no shame.

Does this violate the Prime Directive? (1)

Glasswire (302197) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004735)

Seems to me that genocidal (in that any intelligent life in that star systems is wiped out) deceleration qualifies.

Maybe this is where OMG particles come from (5, Interesting)

istartedi (132515) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004741)

Advanced civilizations might have this drive, and prevent too much particle buildup. It might not be perfect though, so every once in a while a handful of particles come along for the ride. How else do you explain a proton with the kinetic energy of a pitched baseball? [wikipedia.org]

Gotcha (1)

Iniamyen (2440798) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004773)

So, THIS is what's preventing warp drive from becoming reality. OK.

"for generations" ? (3, Informative)

Black Parrot (19622) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004787)

The dream of faster-than-light travel has been on the mind of humanity for generations

I'm guessing that that's 1, 2, 3, or 4 generations, since we've only known that the speed of light is a problem for space travel for about 100 years.

But who is counting? (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004791)

Weir: You destroyed three-quarters of a solar system!
McKay: Five-sixths, but it's not an exact science.

Alcubierre (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004819)

>> Alcubierre

It's spelled Albuquerque as in "I knew I shoulda took dat left turn at Albuquerque!".

Possible names for the first spacecraft... (1)

Shoten (260439) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004847)

The "Vin Diesel."

The "Chuck Norris."

The "Houseguest."

Re:Possible names for the first spacecraft... (1)

Fned (43219) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005331)

The "First Contact"

The "Prime Directive"

The "Deadliest Catch"

Don't leave the brakes on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004863)

River Song: OK. I've mapped the probability vectors, done a foldback on the temporal isometry, chartered the ship to its destination and... parked us right alongside!
The Doctor: Parked us? We haven't landed!
River Song: Of course we've landed - I just landed her!
The Doctor: But... it didn't make the noise.
River Song: What noise?
The Doctor: You know, the...
[imitates Tardis noise]
River Song: It's not supposed to make that noise - *you* leave the brakes on!

Future Explorers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004865)

How come everywhere we go there is nothing there? Are you sure there was a planetary system here? Let's go back home. Hey where's home?

Deflectors? (1)

Cloud K (125581) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004875)

From TFA

As your faster-than-light ship sails through the cosmos, it’s not alone. Although we often think of space as empty, there are loads of high-energy particles shooting through the void. The University of Sydney research [PDF] indicates that these particles are liable to get swept up in the craft’s warp field and remain trapped in the stable bubble.

That's why you have a deflector dish! Don't these guys even _watch_ Star Trek? ;)

Duplicate Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004883)

Original:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/03/02/1741252/warp-drives-may-come-with-a-killer-downside

Could Explain Part of the Fermi Paradox (1)

medv4380 (1604309) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004887)

Ether all Intelligent Life is aware of this problem and thus conclude they should't, or they use it wiping out so much potential life that no one can spot each other. Since the Earth hasn't been wiped out and Colonized in what... almost 700 million years... I'd say it's more likely they don't use it. Then again we might just be lucky.

Re:Could Explain Part of the Fermi Paradox (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005123)

More likely is we haven't been noticed. It's actually pretty hard to detect a civilization across several light years and humans haven't been calling attention to ourselves until pathetically recently.

What the hell?! (4, Funny)

asmkm22 (1902712) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004897)

I swear there was supposed to be a planet here...

Goddamn that title had.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42004919)

...and hasn't let go. Letting my girlfriend know that TIL: i've learned that the downsides of creating intergalactic travel could cause annihilation of your destination.

Chat about this over coffee?

Follows the same rule as small scale (2)

qvatch (576224) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004975)

It's not the fall that hurts, it is the sudden stop at the end.

That's no Moon! (1)

mandark1967 (630856) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004977)

Well it used to not be one, anyway... Let's go home, Porkins.

I'm more worried about... (1)

Synerg1y (2169962) | about a year and a half ago | (#42004999)

. The ring would have to be made of an as-yet unidentified kind of dense exotic matter capable of bending space-time.

You can always warp somewhere where there isn't a star or planet in front of you, I thought sci-fi reiterated this fact on a per series basis, but here it is one more time. Warp outside the galaxy > discharge your beam of death into the void > fly into the galaxy. Now about that material... does Wal-Mart carry it?

Time Fuze (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005003)

Wasn't this the subject of the Randall Garrett short story "Time Fuze?"

Outward gamma burst (3, Interesting)

cachimaster (127194) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005011)

>All the energetic particles trapped during the journey have to go somewhere, and the researchers believe they would be blasted outward in a cone directly in front of the ship.

At that energy levels particles will be converted to gamma radiation, expelled outward in a burst. Maybe sombody already invented those ships [wikipedia.org] .

Football (1)

Hyppy (74366) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005037)

Did anyone else notice that they used a football as their central "pod" for the ship in the article's graphic? It looks like a bad copy/paste job involving circa 1998 Bryce 3D, MS Paint, and a TI-83.

Warp Drives. pfffff (2)

sarguin (702714) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005095)

...it's nothing compared to Ludicrous Speed!

Better than Smallpox in Blankets (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005097)

It's our Manifest Destiny; I say full speed ahead -- the ecology and natives be damned.

Just another little bit of history repeating. (2)

senorpoco (1396603) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005103)

Man wonders what lies just beyond the horizon. Man develops ability to travel beyond horizon. Man annihilates whatever was over there.

Time Fuse (4, Interesting)

Ambitwistor (1041236) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005159)

is a short story by Randall Garrett. The crew of the first starship narrowly escape the supernova from their destination star by escaping back into warp. They realize that this isn't a coincidence: their warp drive blew it up on arrival. (They eventually realize that it blew up their origin star too: the Sun.)

Fast Ship, Slow Day??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005165)

This is nothing new and was posted on /. earlier this year (although s different article)

http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/03/02/1741252/warp-drives-may-come-with-a-killer-downside

jive vs jibe (2)

jhsewell (620291) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005187)

The word you are looking for is jibe, not jive.

It all depends on your viewpoint (1)

tftp (111690) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005241)

To one man this collection of energetic particles is a bomb that must be defused and destroyed. To another man this collection of particles is a source of energy.

Would it not be cool to have a vehicle that starts the trip with half a tank and ends it with the full tank? The energy can be used on non-FTL vehicles or permanent installations.

How about (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42005375)

Admittedly I am just an old country accountant who doesn't know about all of these things. But why not just try to not make a warp bubble and instead make something for lack of better words, more aerodynamic. So the particulate flows around the warp bubble rather than sticking to it.

Easy fix? (1)

EGSonikku (519478) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005449)

You could just stop a few months / years ahead of your actual destination, and then continue using traditional propulsion for the last leg of the journey? Would still be much faster.

Bussard (1)

mill3d (1647417) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005461)

I'm surprised nobody brought up the ram scoop yet. It looks like that'll actually kill two birds with one scoop if there's a way to use the collected particles as fuel.

Duh (1)

Captain.Abrecan (1926372) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005529)

Just stop and start again every lightyear or something. No big deal.

proof we haven't been visited (1)

MooseTick (895855) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005575)

If this were true, then aliens would have wiped us out if they had ever visited us.

As some others have noted, you could always hook into your destination and cause all those hitchhiking particles to be shot into the nearest black hole. Then no one gets huts unless that cross in front of that traffic while its heading to the black hole.

Well.... (2)

Ferretman (224859) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005587)

......THAT's not very neighborly....

New Interplanetary Navy Motto (1)

Sparticus789 (2625955) | about a year and a half ago | (#42005609)

Join the Interplanetary Navy, where you travel to new star systems..... and blow them up!

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  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
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