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Brain Scans of Rappers and Jazz Musicians Shed Light On Creativity

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the medial-prefrontal-lit-like-thrusters-on-the-shuttle dept.

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ananyo writes "Rappers making up rhymes on the fly while in a brain scanner have provided an insight into the creative process. Freestyle rapping — in which a performer improvises a song by stringing together unrehearsed lyrics — is a highly prized skill in hip hop. But instead of watching a performance in a club, Siyuan Liu and Allen Braun, neuroscientists at the U.S. National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders in Bethesda, Maryland, and their colleagues had 12 rappers freestyle in a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) machine. The artists also recited a set of memorized lyrics chosen by the researchers. By comparing the brain scans from rappers taken during freestyling to those taken during the rote recitation, they were able to see which areas of the brain are used during improvisation. The rappers showed lower activity in part of their frontal lobes called the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex during improvisation, and increased activity in another area, called the medial prefrontal cortex. The areas that were found to be 'deactivated' are associated with regulating other brain functions. The results echo an earlier study of jazz musicians. The findings also suggest an explanation for why new music might seem to the artist to be created of its own accord. With less involvement by the lateral prefrontal regions of the brain, the performance could seem to its creator to have 'occurred outside of conscious awareness,' the authors write in the paper." Bonus points for science rhymes; for anyone who has the time.

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Double-blind? (2)

alendit (1454311) | about 2 years ago | (#42006825)

Rappers were the control group, I suppose?

Re:Double-blind? (2)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#42006877)

No, they were used to calibrate the zero-point on the scanners.

(I kid, just a joke)

Re:Double-blind? (-1, Offtopic)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 2 years ago | (#42007079)

Aren't "Rap" and "Music" mutually exclusive terms??

:)

Re:Double-blind? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007477)

Rap is purest crap, all real musicians agree
Ignorance, its purest theme
But at least it's not the effrontery
Of boot and beery country

Cappin' off dem white bitches
Or leavin yur boots under the bed
Neither scratches euphonic itches
or creates harmony in your head

country is purest dreck, all real musicians agree
but at least it's not the annoyance
of droopy pants boy bands
and they don't shoot each other, you see

Howlin' at the moon
and stemmin the rose at night
The one's got pants a-fallin off
the other's jeans - too tight

They both objectify wimmen, and pretend to be real men
The's one's all drugs and bluster
the other worships Custer
and we know what happened to him

But if it rhymes, it's all good
one the one hand with a thump
on the other with drippy harmony
and the gayest cowboy rump

So expose your kids to rock and roll,
classical and jazz
With any luck, they'll grow up,
with music you won't razz.

But should they fall, victim to,
music you can't stand
Be prepared, have earplugs ready,
right there in your hand.

Re:Double-blind? (1)

Soilworker (795251) | about 2 years ago | (#42007949)

Probably a copy paste, but it's awesome, all my mod points, since I don't have any, I commented instead.

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008191)

Nope, I wrote it right here.

One correction: one the one hand with a thump -> on the one hand with a thump

It's completely original slashdot tripe, written just for us. :)

Thanks!

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008823)

It rhymes but this ain't rap. Not so easy is it.

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009263)

I'm sorry, did I give the impression I was trying to rap? I have no idea how that happened, but I'll certainly take the blame for your misperception.

Re:Double-blind? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42011649)

Technicians be told,
crank the magnets to 9T.
cuz my freestyle's BOLD
hemodynamics agrees with me.

Light up my brain,
medial prefrontal cortex.
bitches in scrubs rain,
I have money guns cars sex.

Re:Double-blind? (1)

geekymachoman (1261484) | about 2 years ago | (#42010951)

Rap today is same as R(nR) today. Read: Rap long time ago, was same as Rock long time ago, maybe not musically.. but it was creative and honest.
I'm embarrased to say I listen to rock music for a long time now.

When something is honest it's not crap, and besides .. creation is never crap. Having prejudice and cutting off everything without knowing it's history is crap.
This comes from someone who grew up with Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton, Muddy Waters, Howlin wolf, Led Zeppelin etc.

I respect creative and real rap music, lyrically (read again: I'm not talking about what you see on TV).

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42014483)

Kind of pathetic rhythm and rhyme

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42028901)

That's just plain terrible. You can hate on Rap all you want, or any other genre of music for that matter. But you can't let what the mainstream puts out there mold your idea of music anymore than you can let it mold your political or ethical views. You want some good, real hip hop?
- Immortal Technique
- Jurassic 5
- Common Market
- Atmosphere
- Deltron 3030 (Del the funky homosapien from Hieroglyphics)
- Childish Gambino

"Colonialism is sponsored by corporations
That's why Halliburton gets paid to rebuild nations
Tell me the truth, I don't scare into paralysis
I know the CIA saw Bin Laden on dialysis
In '98 when he was Top Ten for the FBI"
- Immortal Technique

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42013673)

Aren't "Rappers" and "Brains" mutually exclusive too?

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008847)

No, they were used to calibrate the zero-point on the scanners.

wish i could mod this up to 5 Hilarious

Re:Double-blind? (2)

Fned (43219) | about 2 years ago | (#42006901)

There's no need for a control group, there's no shortage of fMRI data from people who aren't rhyming.

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 2 years ago | (#42008835)

I assume these brain-dead researchers are relying on self-reports that they are improvising on the fly, and haven't pre-memorized dozens and dozens of clever rhymes they've pre-thought up for use "on the fly".

Kind of like the dopes who "study" psychics and don't know enough to rule out magician slight-of-hand.

Re:Double-blind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009057)

Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, perhaps.

No! (4, Interesting)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#42006827)

That rhyme was terrible,
yes, completely unbearable.

Re:No! (1)

rwa2 (4391) | about 2 years ago | (#42007089)

Stop all this rhyming right now! I mean it!

Re:No! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007169)

Does anyone want a peanut?

Re:No! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008245)

Stop all this rhyming right now! I mean it!

Anybody want a peanut?

Re:No! (1)

alphatel (1450715) | about 2 years ago | (#42007171)

That rhyme was terrible, yes, completely unbearable.

Bowlfuls of ceral, writing down my serial
key code delirious before I got serious

Punk tried to rhyme at me, I said "why you got ipad3?"
"I got the gingerbread, mounted to my head"
Looking at my headrig, a gglass and he dig
Dropped it in his twitter, ostensibly a quitter.
Says he wrote for debian, suddenly he's rubian
I qu8ked his shorthand, blinked twice beforehand
A screen shot "delete me" oh how obsoletely

Now you work for no man, lost in Homer hole land
Missin Disney Star Wars, crying for a lost cause
Watch your damn Jarjar, I'm off to the pod bar
Sipping social media, donatin Wikipedia
huntin Pinnipedia, signin off
- Acedia

Re:No! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008397)

That rhyme was terrible,
yes, completely unbearable.

Bowlfuls of ceral, writing down my serial

key code delirious before I got serious

Punk tried to rhyme at me, I said "why you got ipad3?"

"I got the gingerbread, mounted to my head"

Looking at my headrig, a gglass and he dig

Dropped it in his twitter, ostensibly a quitter.

Says he wrote for debian, suddenly he's rubian

I qu8ked his shorthand, blinked twice beforehand

A screen shot "delete me" oh how obsoletely

Now you work for no man, lost in Homer hole land

Missin Disney Star Wars, crying for a lost cause

Watch your damn Jarjar, I'm off to the pod bar

Sipping social media, donatin Wikipedia

huntin Pinnipedia, signin off

- Acedia

dude

Re:No! (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about 2 years ago | (#42007203)

Science be high on figurin' out why
mah rap is bussin' a cap in the ass
of motherfuckers makin' Darwin cry
while I'm takin' a toke on dat grass

Respec yo.

Re:No! (1)

DemonGenius (2247652) | about 2 years ago | (#42007511)

It's Friday, my day, my way or the highway,
Can't wait to get off work so I'm letting my mind spray.
Stuck here in my chair on some last minute shit,
Debuggin' the fuckin' program till those breakpoints get hit.
Go home, pop the beer, spark the la like rastafari,
Relaxin' on the couch and watch the time just fly by.
Get a call from work, they say the shit done turn real,
Log into my machine, oh how shitty this must feel.

upgrade your grey matter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42006847)

cause one day it may matter

regulating genes :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42006861)

youtube regulating genes

Hopefully they recorded the freestyling. (1)

HEMI426 (715714) | about 2 years ago | (#42006871)

I want to hear MRI'in while freestylin'.

Re:Hopefully they recorded the freestyling. (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#42006991)

Here you are, sir. [soundcloud.com]

Re:Hopefully they recorded the freestyling. (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#42007005)

Actually I should have linked to the whole list [soundcloud.com] . My bad!

Entry (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42006911)

I carry no props for the Blood or the Crips
Cuz I code Hello, World in fifty different scripts
I get money and cars and gigabytes of perks
Til I stand up in Scrum and say "Boss, it almost works"

Brain Scans of Rappers shed light on creativity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42006977)

How? By illustrating the lack of?

Re:Brain Scans of Rappers shed light on creativity (1, Informative)

X0563511 (793323) | about 2 years ago | (#42007051)

Lets be fair. Flavor Flav? Yea, you know which one I'm talking about.

Did you know he's actually a musical prodigy? He plays somewhere around 25 instruments. I mean -plays- too, not just makes noise.

(of course that doesn't speak for them all, but you can't just consider them all morons like that)

Re:Brain Scans of Rappers shed light on creativity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007505)

Ok. I will stipulate to the fact that ONLY the rapping part of flavor-flav is an expression of moronic character.

That's *really* fair.

Re:Brain Scans of Rappers shed light on creativity (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007701)

Also, he hangs with skanky hos. Really, really disturbing, lowlife, low functioners.

WTF is a "musical prodigy" doing that for?

So apparently, his moronic character does extend outside of his tendency to rap.

Re:Brain Scans of Rappers shed light on creativity (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 2 years ago | (#42008029)

Smart people do dumb things, news at 11. Seriously it's like my dog or the 911 hijacker's, smart beings are often motivated by dumb goals.

UR Doin It rong (1)

xevioso (598654) | about 2 years ago | (#42007063)

"Bonus points for science rhymes; for anyone who has the time."
Is not a rhyme.

Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (3, Informative)

CRCulver (715279) | about 2 years ago | (#42007067)

I'm sure this thread will have lots of blather about how hip hop lyrics are valid artistic expressions. I used to have the same prejudice, until I started studying epic poetry of Central Asia. Much of the Kyrgyz epic Manas, acclaimed by scholars in the West upon its discovery a century ago, is comparable to most hip hop artists: badly strung together recitations of how the hero has got lots of bling and bitches, and whoops the ass of his enemies.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (4, Informative)

monk (1958) | about 2 years ago | (#42007285)

I'm sure this thread will have lots of blather about how hip hop lyrics are (not) valid artistic expressions.

To support your argument that Hip Hop follows a long tradtion:

LO, praise of the prowess of people-kings
of spear-armed Danes, in days long sped,
we have heard, and what honor the athelings won!
Oft Scyld the Scefing from squadroned foes,
from many a tribe, the mead-bench tore,
awing the earls. Since erst he lay
friendless, a foundling, fate repaid him:
for he waxed under welkin, in wealth he throve,
till before him the folk, both far and near,
who house by the whale-path, heard his mandate,
gave him gifts: a good king he!

Beowulf (Prologue) [mcmaster.ca]

or

Yo! I know you heard of the Scyldings already
When battle went down, the kings were deadly, swords steady
Each one did whatever he said he
Would do, and to grab onto more glory was ready.
Scyld started their line, looked mighty fine
Just a baby found a-bobbin' in a boat
Grew great so kings gave him silver and gold

The Beowulf Rap [blogspot.com]

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

sysrammer (446839) | about 2 years ago | (#42014327)

Whitey wrap from a Beowolf cluster of Zappas...

Dreamed I was an eskimo
Frozen wind began to blow
Under my boots and around my toes
The frost that bit the ground below
It was a hundred degrees below zero...

And my mama cried
And my mama cried
Nanook, a-no-no
Nanook, a-no-no
Don't be a naughty eskimo
Save your money, don't go to the show

Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said ho, ho
And the northern lights commenced to glow
And she said, with a tear in her eye
Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (2)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42007323)

So, the poetry of a violent, war-like culture is similar to rap? Someone should do a study into why that is.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

CRCulver (715279) | about 2 years ago | (#42007467)

So, the poetry of a violent, war-like culture is similar to rap?

Except the Kyrgyz were not a violent, war-like culture. At the time that the Manas tradition evolved, the Kyrgyz were a pretty peaceful nomadic pastoral society surrounded by great empires who were changing the borders all around them by force.

Kyrgyz - is it like Chinese? (3, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 2 years ago | (#42008085)

And is the translation any good?

I speak and read Chinese, with a particular interest in classical characters. I've read, with considerable interest, the Tao te Ching in its near-original form, and also numerous English translations. I'm a martial artist, so such an expounding on "the way" is of great interest. I even suffered through a reading by Ursula Le Guin. Man, was that ever annoying. Then I had a few beers to try to forget. And I like her fiction. And I don't particularly like beer. Anyway...

In the translations, in an attempt to make the content lyrical in English terms, and sometimes to rhyme, and sometimes to map to a particular agenda, the meaning is badly mangled — to be kind about it. The original can say something entirely mundane, and the translation gets all spiritual and freaky. It's enough to make me turn a little green sometimes.

I wonder if these Kyrgz translations are more of the same.

In the case of English and Chinese, the languages don't have anything even remotely resembling a 1:1 map once you get any further into them than "Ni hao", and even then... Someone probably, somewhere, might have told you Ni hao means hello... that's a very common start. What it actually means, though, is "you good" as an implied question that they do NOT expect you to answer... but if you go for "Ni hao ma" that's actually asking "you good?" whereas the first form doesn't indicate a need for an answer (compare to asking someone "how ya doin?", and they start telling you, while you groan to yourself "it was RHETORICAL, please SHUT UP!") It's not hello and it doesn't mean hello, it's just used where we would use hello. Ni hao maps a lot closer to an uninflected (non-questioning) "how ya doin" and ni hao ma to an inflected "how ya DOIN?." But you rarely get taught that, you sort of figure it out later. Well, some do.

These mapping issues get much stronger as you get into any deeper meanings. In Chinese, that is. So... when I see translations of poetry and particularly when attempts are made to rhyme in another language... I get a little (more) cynical. :) Somehow I doubt that Kyrgyz ramblings make much sense at all in modern English, no matter what you do to 'em. That is to say, if you do enough to get them to make sense, they no longer map back to the original well.

I can guarantee that's the case for English translations of the Tao te Ching. If you actually want to understand it, you've got a whole culture to learn, and THEN you've got to come to grips with centuries of change.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007595)

Rhythm and dynamic pattern matching.

When violence is common anything out of place in the environment is likely to be a threat. In violent action, timing to avoid danger or attack someone else's weakness is important. So a mind that is good at emergent pattern recognition and rhythm would be good at both surviving in a hostile atmosphere and poetry.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

Threni (635302) | about 2 years ago | (#42007787)

Stop being horrible about Americans!

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

Walkingshark (711886) | about 2 years ago | (#42013971)

A violent, war-like culture?
Why do you have to bring the USA into everything?

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007351)

This is why I love the internet. Did anyone else click on this story expecting to come across a critical beatdown of Kyrgyz epic poetry?

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007519)

I don't have a problem with the artists, if I don't have to listen to there noise. Still, it's better than modern jazz. At least someone can explain to me why they like a certain hip hop song without a twenty minute discussion of music theory and jazz history.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (3, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 2 years ago | (#42008257)

I don't have a problem with the artists, if I don't have to listen to there(sic) noise.

"their"

At least someone can explain to me why they like a certain hip hop song without a twenty minute discussion of music theory and jazz history.

Did it ever occur to you that if you had a few years of musical education, such an explanation could be a short, concise event? There are terms and concepts that cover why one likes, or doesn't, jazz, classical, etc. They just don't boil down to "not 'nuff skanky hos" or "that shit don't rock my sub, man."

Personally, if they completely cancelled football and actually taught music and music theory instead so people could create and/or appreciate music on more than a surface level when they heard it, I think we'd all be much better off. Certainly when I hear a "pop" music station, I think so. :/

But... hey. Who am I to stand in the way of Little Billy's busted spleen? Rah. Rah. And stuff.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (0)

Antipater (2053064) | about 2 years ago | (#42008497)

Aww, look. He's angry that people don't like or understand the thing he enjoys, so we should all stop enjoying the thing he doesn't like or understand.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 2 years ago | (#42009019)

Oh, no. That's not anger, son. That's pity. For the music and the spleen.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009443)

> "if they completely cancelled football"

You had me right there!

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

Walkingshark (711886) | about 2 years ago | (#42014111)

If it takes someone years to explain why I should like something, it isn't worth liking. There are more productive uses of that time that are equally enlightening and enriching and don't require me to duck my head into the cesspool of pompous ramblings that is modern music education.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

fyngyrz (762201) | about a year and a half ago | (#42118023)

If it takes someone years to explain why I should like something, it isn't worth liking.

OK.... however, the less education you acquire, the larger the number of categories that will fall into "takes too long to explain."

The ultimate consequences are left as an exercise for the student. Oh. I forgot. You're an anti-student. Well, guess you're just not going to see it coming, then. :)

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

swalve (1980968) | about 2 years ago | (#42008303)

Like drinking scotch or some beer, it isn't actually good until you know why. "This tastes like vile vomit because the peat came from MacDougal's bog, where druids have been fucking for millennia."

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 2 years ago | (#42009319)

Really... I mean, after all, MacDougal's bog.

"Pict squeezins are the only good squeezins."

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

dnixx (2753817) | about 2 years ago | (#42008247)

I used to think like you until I quit listening to "most hip hop artists" and started paying attention to the ones who stayed in the lab like Niels Bohr, his son Aage, Edward Lorenz and Leo Szilard. The ones that lyrically took rap music and turned the knob, to the right full throttle and added panache.

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (1)

funwithBSD (245349) | about 2 years ago | (#42008641)

Come on, Rap is Crap...

Until Weird Al gets hold of it, then it is ART. =)

Re:Cue the hatred of hip hop artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009175)

Your description of hip hop sounds like it was formed by my 16 year old cousin's collection, or worse, MTV. Here's some of the better blather validating artistic expression that I can think of (hear it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4zvYLxZuf8 but be warned of busted amateur montage that accompanies it):

It's the caffeine, the nicotine, the milligrams of tar
It's my habitat, it needs to be cleaned, it's my car
It's the fast talk they use to abuse and feed my brain
It's the cat box, it needs to be changed, it's the pain

It's women, it's the plight for power, it's government
It's the way you're givin' knowledge
Slow with thought control and subtle hints
It's rubbin' it, itchin' it, it's applyin' cream
It's the foreigners sight seein' with high beams, it's in my dreams

It's the monsters that I conjure, it's the marijuana
It's the embarrassment, displacement, it's where I wander
It's my genre, it's Madonna's videos
It's game shows, it's cheap liquor, blunts
It's bumper stickers with rainbows

It's angels, demons, gods, it's the white devils
It's the monitors, the soundman, it's the motherfucking mic levels
It's gas fumes, fast food, Tommy Hil' and mommy's pill
Columbia House music club, designer drugs and rhyming thugs

It's bloods, crips, fives, six, it's stick up kids
It's Christian conservative terrorists, it's porno flicks
It's the east coast, no, it's the west coast
It's public schools, it's asbestos

It's mentholated, it's techno, it's sleep, life, and death
It's speed, coke, and meth
It's hay fever, pain relievers, oral sex, and smokers breath
It stretches for as far as the eye can see
It's reality, fuck it, it's everythin' but me

On and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on

It's all according that life on a whole
It's all according that life on a whole
It's all according that life on a whole
It's all according that life on a whole

It's in the water, it's in the air, it's in the meat
It's indirect, indiscreet, it's inconsistent, incomplete
It's in the streets, every city, everywhere you go
In every man it's the insanity, the fantasy, the casualties

It's the health care system, it's welfare victims
It's assault weapons, it's television religion and it's false lessons
It's cops, police, pigs with badges guns and sticks
It's harassment and a complex you carry when you're runnin' shit

It's wonderin' if you get to eat, it's the heat
It's the winter, the weather, it's herpes and it's forever
It's the virus that takes the lives of the weak and the strong
It's the drama that keeps on between me and my seed's mom

It's that need to speak long, it's that hunger for attention
It's the whack who attack songs of redemption
It's prevention, it's the first solution, it's loose, it's out for retribution
It's mental pollution and public execution

It's the nails that keep my hands and feet to these boards
It's the part time job that governs what you can afford
It's the fear, It's the fake, it's clear it can make time stop
And leave you stranded in the Year Of The Snake

It's the dollar, yen, pound, it's all denomination
It's hourly wages for your professional observations
It's on your face and it's in your eyes, everything you be
'Cause it ain't me, motherfucker, 'cause it ain't me

On and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on
The list goes on and on and on and on

It's all according that life on a whole
It's all according that life on a whole

ATMOSPHERE - SCAPEGOAT LYRICS

Yo, it's MC AC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007115)

Yo yo yo, it's MC AC.
My rhymes are slick and my flow is quick.
I talk the tech I stack the deck
I jam some tunes (and slam the Zunes)
And when I see a smokin' babe
I lose my train of thought and can't think of anything else to say and oh frak that doesn't scan or rhyme ...Okay, I give up now.

Obligatory Java Rap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007123)

"Java Life" Rap [oracle.com]

What wit dis muthafukin' science and shit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007195)

Rappers showed lower activity in part of their frontal lobes
And generally have lower brain activity than the comatose
Or even those who enjoy shit rhymes about bitches and ho's
This news may surprise them but everyone else already knows

Who Needs IQ: I'm Sexy & I Know It (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007245)

[Clap Clap] [youtube.com]
Yeah! Yeah!
When I walk on by, girls be lookin' like, damn he fly.
I (pick) to the beat, walkin' down the street in my new lefreak.
Yeah!
This is how I roll, animal print, pants out of control.
It's Redfoo with the big ass'fro and like Bruce Lee rock out the club. Yeah!
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out.
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out.
When I walk in the spot [yeah], this is what I see [okay];
everybody stops and staring at me.
I got passion in my pants and I ain't afraid to show it, show it, show it, show it.
I'm sexy and I know it. I'm sexy and I know it.
Yeoh!
When I'm at the mall, security just can't fight them (all).
And, when I'm at the beach, I'm in a speedo, trying to tan my cheeks. Wah?!
This is how I roll, come on ladies, it's time to go.
We headed to the bar baby, don't be nervous. No shoes, no shirt and I still get service.
Waww!
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out.
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out.
When I walk in the spot [yeah], this is what I see [okay];
everybody stops and staring at me.
I got passion in my pants and I ain't afraid to show it, show it, show it, show it.
I'm sexy and I know it. [ayhey] I'm sexy and I know it.
Check it out! Check it out!
Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah. (3x)
Wiggle wiggle wiggle wig yeah yeah.
Do the wiggle man. I do the wiggle man. Yeah. I'm sexy and I know it.
Hey! Yeah!
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out.
[ahhh] Girl look at that body. (3x)
[ahhh] uh uh, I work out out out out out out out out out out out out.
I'm sexy and I know it.

Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Dreams (1)

Mandrel (765308) | about 2 years ago | (#42007317)

This ties in with the regular hallucinations of fully-arranged original music and songs I experience when I'm waking or falling off to sleep. While my consciousness stays suppressed, the music just flows, and I get a brief insight into how it must feel to be a great improviser. This ties into the concept of The Zone, where thoughts flow organically and associatively, instead of being marshalled by the frontal lobes.

I start to lose the flow as soon as my consciousness tries to direct things, which is unfortunately necessary to be able to recall the music when fully awake. I find it hard to capture more than a brief fragment or taste of what I've heard. Any recording I make of it using only my voice is even further removed.

I don't know if drugs can put you in such a creative state, or whether they just put you in a total dream-like state where you think you're being creative, but it's all just nonsense.

Re:Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Dreams (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42010183)

It is about finding that lose of consciousness but drugs aren't the way to go. I've played guitar for 17 yrs and drugs make it sloppy. You have to have the skills first to create and understand music, then you just play until you're entranced and something clicks in your brain and all of the sudden you're making music you didn't even expect.

I see good programmers do this. They can just exhale code and what's funny is if you ask them what they were thinking, a lot of times they'll say, I just got in the zone and made this, now I need to go clean it up, but it's that burst that brings the end result to the next level...whether you like jazz or rap, if it's something that's coming from that part of our brain which is unlocked when we're finally hohned in...the trick is to have good subject matter..too bad I play and don't code I suppose...

i can do that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42007415)

I just be chillin here on Slashdot reading me some stories,
And then I find this article that doesn't seem so boring.
Story bout freestyling rappers being brainscanned.
I be thinking "oh my gawd, I gotta comment bout it quick man!"....

They just wanted raw creation (1)

turp182 (1020263) | about 2 years ago | (#42007471)

The jazz people have been analyzed, when improvising. Pure creation.

A rapper, even if the result is terrible, is doing the same thing, except with words.

I do electronic music production. It's mostly configuration to be honest. But when you find the right sound and the right notes, there is a heavenly moment that is wonderful (atheist speaking here).

What they are actually examining is Flow, as described by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (http://www.amazon.com/Flow-The-Psychology-Optimal-Experience/dp/0061339202/), I haven't read TFA but I wouldn't be surprised to see him mentioned. Disappointed if they didn't...

Definitely beats (1)

robi5 (1261542) | about 2 years ago | (#42007789)

a dead salmon.

Oblig. Don Draper (1)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | about 2 years ago | (#42008103)

Just think about it deeply, then forget itâ¦then an idea will jump up in your face.

Unless the scanned Beardyman, this is useless. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008111)

Really, there's no brain that would have given them what the almighty Beardyman can give them. The absolute master of making creative things up on the spot [youtube.com] . (I highly recommend checking out his live "DJ" shows, as well as his comedy shows, and small random bits.)

I blame the reefers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42008255)

It's the devils weed at work.

Rapping is vocal automotism? (1)

acid brother (2775575) | about 2 years ago | (#42009027)

Could explain the heavy cannabis usage among rappers. Oh yeah, psychedelics don't enhance creativity... wink wink, nudge nudge.

Rapping and Jazz improvisation are not creative (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009157)

Nor should they be considered creative. Rappers are just rhythmic boasters, nothing more or less. Creativity has nothing to do with it. Neither does jazz improvisation, which is not creative but the result of grueling hours of muscle memory and transposing keys and rhythms of the basic melody. That's it. When you hear a jazz soloist improvising, he has to stick to the bass line laid down, and riff of the basic melody. Except Ornette Coleman who makes noise not music.

Real creativity is say, J,K. Rowling, or JRR Tolkein, or J Michael Straczynski creating their worlds, and laboriously refining, editing, and improving their characterization, plots, storylines, events, and so on. Or the meticulous planning and execution of a David Hockney painting. Or the patient experimentation and figuring out of the Wright Brothers.

Creativity is the spark, the idea of something, mixed with grueling hours of revisions, refinements, editing, and so on. It is mostly hard, laborious work.

Re:Rapping and Jazz improvisation are not creative (1)

IIJamesII (998333) | about 2 years ago | (#42010845)

What a terribly limited and narrow definition of jazz improv. Grueling hours of practice, study and refinement in preparation for the spark to hit *in the moment* during a performance doesn't count as creativity in your books?

Re:Rapping and Jazz improvisation are not creative (1)

sysrammer (446839) | about 2 years ago | (#42014273)

...Creativity has nothing to do with it. Neither does jazz improvisation, which is not creative but the result of grueling hours of muscle memory and transposing keys and rhythms of the basic melody...

...Creativity is the spark, the idea of something, mixed with grueling hours of revisions, refinements, editing, and so on. It is mostly hard, laborious work.

First you say something is not creative, but the result of "grueling hours". Then you go on to say that once you take a "spark" and mix it with "grueling hours", now you got creativity. Somehow you don't believe that creative musicians have any sparks?

lil bit of creativity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009381)

lower brain activity, they must be high.
i anit no bill nye the science guy
but I put the mine in ya dopa
and make it mean like it was part of SOPA

Rap lololol (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42009805)

Rap is gayer than AIDS.

Re:Rap lololol (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42010357)

but not as gay as anonymous cowards (yes I know)

Hot Shower (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42010067)

Apparently a hot shower in the morning completely shuts down my dorsolateral prefrontal cortex. Too bad it also shuts down my memory too.

you cannot freestyle on a tablet, but here goes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42010133)

Protons, neutrons, electrons and silicon
Make the digital world in this planet we live on
1s and 0s, they make US heros
But flip the wrongswitch
And we loose some dinero
But only the man really cares about the dollars
Patenting everything and making masses holler
It's all about open source, F O S S
Let's topple the balance and put the greed to rest

call out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42010461)

For anyone who has the time?
What if I told you son, that time curves like a bowl of fruit loops in the rain
Or thread a film backwards like masking tape stuck to the shower drain
time warps, motherfucker, like a whistle from World 1-3
and the landscape that once was will now forever be
science, like finance, survives reality, yet submits to fantasy
lifting up beyond the ranks of mode and range
to feed yon broken ticker-brain, like a grim jade sage

Rap != Creative (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 years ago | (#42012311)

Rap = Crap.

Creative Process (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42012993)

How about scanning Poetic writing creativity. Why was wrappers chosen? Was it because of Will Smith?

Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42014205)

Where is the video of the guy freestyle rapping in a MRI?

What's a rap equivalent for "muscle memory"? (1)

Mal-2 (675116) | about 2 years ago | (#42015409)

I'm sure over years, rappers must accumulate word pairings that rhyme, and phrases that slot into rhythms, much the way a jazz player rehearses patterns. In both cases, the fact is that the brain isn't fast enough to both think and execute in real time. Some of the processing has to be done beforehand, and wired in to be executed on command. The trick is to be spontaneous and assemble things in novel ways in spite of the hard wired tendency to arrange them in friendly and familiar ways over and over.

As Factory Records founder Tony Wilson said... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42017421)

Jazz is the last refuge of the untalented.

To that I'd add that rap is the 2nd to last such refuge,

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Feel the hate (1)

ananyo (2519492) | about 2 years ago | (#42025433)

I've been posting stories to Slashdot for about a year now. I'm regularly on the most accepted submitter list and I don't spam the site with submissions so I guess I'm doing something right.
I've been pretty impressed by the comments on all the stories - like many in this community I've got a PhD (protein crystallography) and/or a physical sciences background (Undergrad in physics). Like many, I'm also liberal/atheist. Comments are humorous, witty and often insightful. The level of debate is high, and move the story on or question it in interesting ways.
But I'm hugely disappointed at many of the comments left on this piece - dismissing an entire genre of music? That's narrow-minded redneck stuff. You might not like much that you hear - but then any genre that includes Public Enemy, Michael Franti (sorry - I'm out of touch since the 80s/early 90s) deserves respect.
There's a great deal of rock I do not like - it's misogynistic/derivative crap - but that's OK - I listen to the stuff that I like.
Few would think it ok to dismiss rock music in the way I'm seeing rap/hiphop dismissed here. Any thoughts on why?

Re:Feel the hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42029903)

Because slashdot is frequented mostly by aging white basement dwellers who instinctively look down on anything associated with the black culture that in their eyes shitted up their teenage years in the 80's and 90's (i.e. MTV stopped playing rock and started playing all this rap shit!). And they make themselves sound very dated when they do it too.

hip hop haters (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42028659)

I'm sorry, but there is a major difference between hip hop and rap. Hip hop artists don't talk about bitches and money. Also, freestyling is an art form if you have a story to tell.

*Ahem*

I write code for a company
Why you try to front on me?
"I'm awesome in C#"
I say as you start to run from me
I'm the best there's ever gonna be
I hit you with the 1,2,3
Then put on my thinkin cap n go back to living comfortably.

*crosses arms as if wearing hammer pants and sporting a high top fade*

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