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Windows Phone 8 Users Hit Some Snags

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the my-android-phone-freezes-way-too-often dept.

Microsoft 391

symbolset writes "As reported on The Verge, many people are experiencing freezing, rebooting and battery problems on their new Windows Phone 8 devices. This WP8Central thread shows many of the issues. Affected devices include Lumia 920 and HTC 8X." Every phone and every OS has its problems, and happy users probably aren't as vocal; it would be good to know how Windows Phone users who are also iOS and Android users compare them for reliability.

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No issue with my Lumia 920 (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024313)

So no vocal complaints from me. Love the phone, wish the app ecosystem were a bit better, especially having been on iOS for many years. I suppose I still have my iPad 3 for that!

Re:No issue with my Lumia 920 (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024777)

Windows has detected an incoming call and must restart for the changes to take effect. Windows will restart in 1 minute.

Windows has detected that you've moved to a new location and must restart for the changes to take effect. Windows will restart in 1 minute.

I had a Windows phone... once. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024315)

Required rebooting at least six times by the end of the day. I gave it back to my company and got my Palm Trëo back. Windows Phone obviously hasn't improved much since then.

Re:I had a Windows phone... once. (3, Funny)

William Robinson (875390) | about 2 years ago | (#42024377)

All you needed was this keyboard [deviantart.net]

Re:I had a Windows phone... once. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024519)

And a USB-to-serial adaptor.

Absolutely not true... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024317)

I have not faced a single, tiny issue with Windows Phone 8. I have not used it for the past 1 month. Actually I have not used it for the past 1 year or even more.

well... (1, Offtopic)

arsemonkey (1970712) | about 2 years ago | (#42024323)

Possibly they will get better quick, I seem to remember my first aneroid device had some pretty odd behavior as well.....

Re:well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024741)

I can't remember any android device without problems. My nexus S (running jellybean) keeps removing my widgets from the desktop randomly (I've installed and setup my clock widget at least 20 times now, and i stopped bothering setting up the stocks widget).

Freezing, rebooting... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024333)

...on Windows. Isn't that normal?

Re:Freezing, rebooting... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024361)

Look, its another one of those "bugs only happens on windows" fucking morons.

Re:Freezing, rebooting... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024397)

who said anything about bugs? it's about stability you fucking moron.

Re:Freezing, rebooting... (5, Insightful)

elabs (2539572) | about 2 years ago | (#42024373)

Not since last decade.

Re:Freezing, rebooting... (3, Funny)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024557)

so you stopped using windows since last decade then?

Re:Freezing, rebooting... (4, Insightful)

Luckyo (1726890) | about 2 years ago | (#42024729)

Seven doesn't really crash at all. Same for SP3 crashes very rarely if ever. Hence "last decade".

I know I took it to a habit to hibernate my windows machine about four years ago because it doesn't really crash anymore. No need to reboot for any other reason then windows update requiring system restart to apply some updates.

I don't get it. (2, Funny)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about 2 years ago | (#42024339)

Why are people complaining?

They told them they where going to give them windows on a phone. They bought windows on a phone. Random reboots, completely unstable, uses up all resources including battery, the only solution is to wipe it out and start over, and even then you end up with a broken device. Sounds like they managed to port the whole windows experience, I don't get the complains. Maybe it's the lack of a blue screen of dead that's bothering them?

Re:I don't get it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024353)

You seemed to be gaining a little momentum. But then "blue screen of dead". And :P everything out the window. Overall post ends up lame

Re:I don't get it. (5, Funny)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024563)

he tripped over the hole where the start menu used to be

Re:I don't get it. (5, Informative)

elabs (2539572) | about 2 years ago | (#42024369)

I've had a Windows Phone (7 and then 7.5) and I think I can count the total number of reboots during that time on one hand. It's extremely stable, more so than any other smartphone or even feature phone I've ever owned. I'm excited to get a Windows Phone 8 (probably the 920) but it's a huge rewrite so I would expect a few quirks here and there at first.

Re:I don't get it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024385)

Judging by your post history, you're also a blatant Microsoft shill, so nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

Re:I don't get it. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024457)

yeah yeah, you can't refute with facts but your hatred of ms won't allow you to let such positive posts go unanswered so you just cry 'shill', poor sad douchebag.

Re:I don't get it. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024679)

You have to admit that they have a history of giving us some damn good reasons to hate them. I was a huge MS supporter from Windows 3.1 up to Windows Vista. After using Windows Mobile and Vista, I realized that Microsoft lost it completely and made the switch (which wasn't something I was looking forward to doing, but now I'm glad that I did). I just got sick of things being so shitty all the time.

And then there's Internet Explorer.

Re:I don't get it. (2, Insightful)

luckymutt (996573) | about 2 years ago | (#42024637)

Judging by your post history, you're also a blatant Microsoft shill, so nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

and with you posting as AC, nothing you say should be taken seriously.

Re:I don't get it. (1)

scdeimos (632778) | about 2 years ago | (#42024423)

Please don't confuse a bump in a major version number with a "huge rewrite". It's marketing for "we added more features," no "we've rewritten this for the seventh time."

Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 still had GDI-related vulnerabilities in WMF/EMF handling left over from the Windows 3.0 days... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms08-021 [microsoft.com]

Re:I don't get it. (5, Informative)

hawguy (1600213) | about 2 years ago | (#42024461)

Please don't confuse a bump in a major version number with a "huge rewrite". It's marketing for "we added more features," no "we've rewritten this for the seventh time."

Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 still had GDI-related vulnerabilities in WMF/EMF handling left over from the Windows 3.0 days... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms08-021 [microsoft.com]

Windows Phone 7 was based on the WinCE kernel, Windows Phone 8 is based on the WinNT kernel. if that's not a "huge rewrite", I don't know what is.

Re:I don't get it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024607)

Well, actually, wince was a rewrite of nt, so it's actually going backwards..

Re:I don't get it. (4, Informative)

q.kontinuum (676242) | about 2 years ago | (#42024745)

Looks like you confuse some things here... from Wikipedia: Windows CE is a distinct operating system and kernel, rather than a trimmed-down version of desktop Windows.[6] It is not to be confused with Windows Embedded Standard which is an NT-based componentized version of desktop Microsoft Windows.

Re:I don't get it. (4, Informative)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#42024625)

It's less a rewrite and more a port. I imagine they could run Windows Phone on x86, they run Windows 8 on ARM (Windows RT) after all.

The funny thing is that vulnerabilities affecting Windows 8 may also affect Windows RT and Windows Phone 8. And if it's one they can trace back like the WMF/EMF bug the GP cited...

Re:I don't get it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024463)

Please don't confuse a bump in a major version number with a "huge rewrite".

Except in this case, it was a "huge rewrite". Porting a full-blown desktop kernel to a phone OS with the appropriate UI is a massive undertaking.

Re:I don't get it. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024513)

Unless it's Linux. Those tards use the same kernel on desktops, servers, phones, routers... THEY'RE FUCKING CRAZY MAN!!!

Re:I don't get it. (5, Funny)

Barlo_Mung_42 (411228) | about 2 years ago | (#42024571)

To be fair, not many use it on the desktop.

Re:I don't get it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024623)

The way microsoft is doing things, maybe 2013 will be the year of linux on the desktop..

Re:I don't get it. (4, Insightful)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 2 years ago | (#42024761)

The way microsoft is doing things, maybe 2013 will be the year of linux on the desktop..

Well we already know 2013 is not going to be Windows on the Phone

Re:I don't get it. (1)

devleopard (317515) | about 2 years ago | (#42024467)

While there could be the same internals with new sandboxing, the lack of backwards compatibility for old apps along with new development models suggests to me a LOT of rewrite.

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024559)

Please don't confuse a bump in a major version number with a "huge rewrite". It's marketing for "we added more features," no "we've rewritten this for the seventh time."

Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 still had GDI-related vulnerabilities in WMF/EMF handling left over from the Windows 3.0 days... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms08-021 [microsoft.com]

"Huge" rewrite is not remotely the same thing as "from scratch"

Re:I don't get it. (4, Informative)

dan_barrett (259964) | about 2 years ago | (#42024465)

I've got an LG Optimus 7, running Win phone 7 Mango - it reboots daily, especially while in the "messages" (ie, SMS) app.
Then again I've read that's common on the LG Optimus specifically.
I'm using the standard apps, plus Exchange mail integration only.

When it's not rebooting, as a basic phone + email reader, it's not bad. My old Nokia "dumb" phone also worked fine as a basic phone with twice the standby time.

I don't think I'll "upgrade" to Windows 8 phone, though

Re:I don't get it. (-1, Troll)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | about 2 years ago | (#42024481)

are you excited by how much m$ will pay you?

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024387)

1998 called, they want their Windows complaints back, oddly enough when that stuff was true of Windows OSX still had the problem of apps locking up the whole system, damn that beachball!

Re:I don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024391)

Look again, its another one of those "bugs only happens on windows" fucking morons.

Re:I don't get it. (1)

supersat (639745) | about 2 years ago | (#42024425)

Perhaps they're just upset that they don't have the cool, new, hip calendar that Google invented, which doesn't include the month of December: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39692 [google.com]

Re:I don't get it. (3, Funny)

JanneM (7445) | about 2 years ago | (#42024595)

Oh that; it's just the liberal-industrial War on Christmas. Nothing to see, please move along.

Re:I don't get it. (2)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024707)

lousy smarch weather.... do not touch willie

Re:I don't get it. (3, Insightful)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about 2 years ago | (#42024453)

Jokes aside, Microsoft had to make the "perfect" phone to fight against iOS and Android. Perfect in a way that that kind of problem (freeze, reboot) doesn't happen - the interface itself is another story. These flaws demonstrate (again) how thick is MS management problem. Ballmer should never have tolerated a phone that buggy to be publicly sold.

Re:I don't get it. (4, Interesting)

adolf (21054) | about 2 years ago | (#42024659)

But if they wait until it's perfect, then they lose even more mindshare to two very competitive rivals: The domestic US smartphone market is running out of fresh non-preferential users, while the existing user base seems to have binary polarization between Android and iOS in ways that earlier competition between Symbian/Palm/Nokia/Blackberry never produced.

It's a tough market to get into, just now, and the longer they wait the tougher it gets...

So I think that in order to succeed, MSFT has to balance timeliness (as above) vs. hardware (wait too long, and your hardware turns stale), vs. software perfection.

In other words, were MSFT to be perfect at any one of these at the detriment of the other, it would be a far stronger nail in the coffin than a balance of the three.

And to be very clear: Their competitor's products (iOS and Android) are also far from perfect.

The question then, as I see it, is this: Did they balance it correctly to capture enough marketshare to sustain further development?

I personally hope not, given the extraordinary oppressiveness and money-grabbing nature of the walled garden that is Windows 8 on non-x86 platforms (the nature of which was apparently tried-and-tested with the Xbox 360), but I guess we'll see.

Re:I don't get it. (2, Insightful)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024713)

Ballmer should never be tolerated

ftfy

Re:I don't get it. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024731)

From what I have read the problem is not with the phone OS, it has been with buggy or faulty hardware. The majority of people don't have problem so really this doesn't demonstrate anything about MS except for perhaps they should do as they have considered and make there own hardware.

Re:I don't get it. (0)

devleopard (317515) | about 2 years ago | (#42024459)

I was told I can could get Linux on a phone a couple of years ago. I assumed that meant it would be impervious to malware, that I'd have to edit text files using a text mode editor, that I'd have to spend hours tweaking the window manager just to get a GUI, and that I'd have to recompile the kernel to enable new features.

Re:I don't get it. (2)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#42024483)

Hey, since we're making stability/usability jokes...

1993 called... they want their OS back.

Re:I don't get it. (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024721)

I was told I can could get Linux on a phone a couple of years ago. I assumed that meant it would be impervious to malware, that I'd have to edit text files using a text mode editor, that I'd have to spend hours tweaking the window manager just to get a GUI, and that I'd have to recompile the kernel to enable new features.

yeah dammit!... i'm still waiting for mine too

Neither do I (1)

hundredrabh (1531761) | about 2 years ago | (#42024517)

Why is this news? Was this not expected?

Oh wait .. I missed "some" ..
Good job guys!

thanks for asking (3, Interesting)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#42024341)

My Samsung Character R640 running Symbian is working absolutely flawlessly and is getting battery life of approx 2 weeks. Thanks for asking about Symbian in that summary.

Re:thanks for asking (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024737)

The Character, being part of the R-series of low-end CDMA devices destined for carriers such as MetroPCS and US Cellular runs Qualcomm's BREW operating system with TouchWiz Lite as the overlay. Samsung and Nokia never officially ported Symbian to CDMA, Samsung were never allowed to outside of Korea, per the terms of their previous deal with Nokia/Symbian Ltd and Nokia's hostile attitude towards Qualcomm on CDMA patent licensing prevented CDMA Symbian devices from being actively developed for the US.

HTC 8X Here, loving it (1)

nomaddamon (1783058) | about 2 years ago | (#42024351)

Had it for a bit under a week, so far no glitches and I'm really loving it!

Re:HTC 8X Here, loving it (1)

elabs (2539572) | about 2 years ago | (#42024371)

Sweet! Good to hear!

Re:HTC 8X Here, loving it (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024725)

omg you haven't dropped it and smashed the screen yet!?
such a noob

This is actually a Slashdot sting (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024367)

They're getting all the Microsoft shills to post in defense of this knowing they're the only ones that would claim to own a Windows 8 phone.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024409)

i still get a kick out of those 'microsoft shills' comments, especially given the rabid defence of apple and google everytime they blame their users, invade privacy and bring frivolous lawsuits, glad to see you're all stuck in 1998, meanwhile the world passed you by...enjoy living in the past, hope these posts satiate your microsoft hate.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024427)

The difference is that it is believable that there are Apple and Google fans/users on Slashdot. The idea that there are Microsoft fans or users on Slashdot is just tough to accept, like if you told us a unicorn was posting to Slashdot.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024507)

The idea that there are Microsoft fans or users on Slashdot is just tough to accept

yeah i know, those so invested in the beliefs of a reality long past do have significant difficulty accepting change, denial is just one of the stages.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (3, Informative)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#42024533)

Considering most of the supporters of Microsoft (dare I say "fanboys") have REALLY high UID's or are anonymous cowards.... yes, it is hard to believe, and it is hard to understand why after all the years of abuse from the Linux/Apple crowd the Microsoft fans would continue to come in and spend most of their time defending their fanboyness to people who wouldn't use windows if it came with a blowjob from Selma Hayek.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (5, Funny)

scdeimos (632778) | about 2 years ago | (#42024575)

it is hard to understand why after all the years of abuse from the Linux/Apple crowd the Microsoft fans would continue to come in and spend most of their time defending their fanboyness to people who wouldn't use windows if it came with a blowjob from Selma Hayek.

Tempting.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1, Insightful)

blavallee (729704) | about 2 years ago | (#42024651)

That would be the only reason I would even consider returning to windows.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1)

hairyfish (1653411) | about 2 years ago | (#42024715)

Considering most of the supporters of Linux/Apple (dare I say "fanboys") have REALLY high UID's or are anonymous cowards.... yes, it is hard to believe, and it is hard to understand why after all the years of abuse from the Microsoft crowd the Linux/Apple fans would continue to come in and spend most of their time defending their fanboyness to people who wouldn't use windows if it came with a blowjob from Selma Hayek. See how that works?

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1, Insightful)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#42024773)

Actually it doesn't since this place grew out of Rob Malda's linux and enlightenment window manager app pages, so that's a fairly epic fail above.
The "you do too" arguments really should have been left behind when people were old enough that they couldn't easily fit in the sandpit to play with the other kindergarden children, which is why sleazy bastards in politics go for the premptive strike accusing their opponents of the flaws they demonstrate above. They know that any rational pointing out that the accuser is themselves guilty is going to look like a childish sandpit argument long before anyone considers whether it is actually true or not.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024717)

Considering most of the supporters of Microsoft (dare I say "fanboys") have REALLY high UID's or are anonymous cowards.... yes, it is hard to believe

Yes times change, i acknowledged that for people like you it is hard to accept change, you'll move out of denial soon, the new breed isn't as encumbered by fanboyism, we're much more objective. i have a windows pc, 3 macs, a nexus 7 and an iphone and i'll drop any of those for something better regardless of who makes it.

and it is hard to understand why after all the years of abuse from the Linux/Apple crowd the Microsoft fans would continue to come in and spend most of their time defending their fanboyness

i don't know, maybe it is hoped those particular apple/linux fans have gone beyond their abuse-hurling insecurities, but fact is objective criticism is hard to come by and those particular fans project their insecurities with baseless vitriol, in fact if you turn the discussion to a point on apple or google those fans will turn on eachother, but in microsoft-related posts they are frothing at the mouth to the point they can't even articulate any valid critical point anymore, it's just 'you're a shill' and 'fuck m$'. but i suppose if that's how you prefer the comments in these stories to look that's fine too.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024753)

i'd go back to windows if it came with a blowjob from dilbert.

anything else is still just second rate.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (0, Redundant)

0123456 (636235) | about 2 years ago | (#42024569)

The idea that there are Microsoft fans or users on Slashdot is just tough to accept, like if you told us a unicorn was posting to Slashdot.

To be fair, most people of clue have abandoned Slashdot over the last year or three. Before long it probably will just be a site for Microsoft shills to tell each other how wonderful Windows is.

Re:This is actually a Slashdot sting (1)

mevets (322601) | about 2 years ago | (#42024489)

Would you like a tissue?

vs the Droid (0)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#42024379)

Oooh this is turning into one of those delightful anecdotal evidence threads! My Android phone is usually quite stable. Every so often "contacts" crashes, bringing down the ability to dial numbers. Basically my phone forgets its a phone, but remembers to be a portable computer. When I had an iphone for work, it was rock solid stable.

I wonder how stable the various phones are on the whole? A proper study would be fascinating.

Re:vs the Droid (1)

scdeimos (632778) | about 2 years ago | (#42024441)

On the other hand, my iPad had 49 Calendar items for every single Contact's birthday until I deleted every all accounts from Settings/Mail, Contacts, Calendars and started again late last week, so even the Great Apple(tm) isn't immune to issues.

Re:vs the Droid (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#42024509)

Oh agreed, just for my usage (phone functions, maps, and messaging) my iphone 3GS worked fine. If I had the iphone 5 maps would be buggy right out the gate (alongside data usage apparently). There's a reason my current phone is a droid and not an iphone (a few actually). The only other bother is despite being a droid, since it only has MTP linux compatibility for syncing is pretty pathetic.

hopefully it isn't as bad as android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024383)

android ice cream sandwich is a steaming heap of dung. worst mobile o/s i have ever used.

Re:hopefully it isn't as bad as android (1)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024765)

try an iphone... you will feel better about your ice cream sandwich :)

windows phone sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024401)

It's that metrosexual interface going down on itself all the time!

If all you need are anectodes (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024421)

Gee, I've had two friends in the last week also report their iphone 5s locking up and freezing. Guess this is âoenewsâ as well. And oh, here's an Apple forum with ooo a whole 25 replies on it about the iphone 5 freezing.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4396519?start=0&tstart=0 [apple.com]

So how bout some real comparisons here instead of cherrypicking? How bout a satisfaction survey of 920 owners? Maybe some real journalistic work perhaps? How bout numerically compare the satisfaction of 920 owners to the rest of the field? Too defensible? Too much work?

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-920-Windows-Phone/product-reviews/B00A2V7FCS/ref=sr_1_2_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 [amazon.com]

Btw, one SKU of the Lumia is currently #3 across all carriers on Amazon and moving up every day despite limited production. Whereâ(TM)s the story on that?

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Cell-Phones-Accessories-Service-Plans/zgbs/wireless/2407747011/ref=zg_bs_nav_cps_1_cps [amazon.com]

Re:If all you need are anectodes (4, Funny)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#42024497)

Calm down, Ballmer. You're getting worked up for no good reason. You know what the doctors said. Any more excitement and you can't throw chairs anymore. You don't want that, now do you?

Re:If all you need are anectodes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024527)

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-920-Windows-Phone/product-reviews/B00A2V7FCS/ref=sr_1_2_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

ZOMG!!! 13 reviews. That really puts things in perspective.

Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (1, Informative)

phanboy_iv (1006659) | about 2 years ago | (#42024437)

..and it lasts longer on a charge than my Galaxy Nexus ever did. I've had one reboot. I used to get freezes and reboots on occasion with the Gnex too. Overall it's been fine. More responsive and reliable than the last 2 Androids I've had.

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024503)

..and it lasts longer on a charge than my Galaxy Nexus ever did.

I've had one reboot. I used to get freezes and reboots on occasion with the Gnex too.

Overall it's been fine. More responsive and reliable than the last 2 Androids I've had.

Quick, mod parent down! The poster is reporting on direct experience. Let's not allow this to clutter up our thread of digs and pokes at Microsoft! Because those never, ever get old!

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (0)

crutchy (1949900) | about 2 years ago | (#42024781)

definitely... maybe if the op had actually turned his lumia phone on he would have got a better battery life comparison with his androids

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (3, Interesting)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | about 2 years ago | (#42024525)

It's good that you're getting better battery life (the "one reboot" is a bit of a stretch), and "several weeks" seems funny since AT&T just started selling them on Nov. 11th. But glad you like your purchase. If you just come here to shill for Ballmer... well that's another story, isn't it? :)

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (1)

phanboy_iv (1006659) | about 2 years ago | (#42024629)

I was at BUILD, I got one a week or so early. But nice try. ;)

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024655)

As if your bias wasn't already apparent now your admitting to being a Microsoft shill. God you shills are stupid.

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024749)

You hardly need to be a shill to be at build. Many of us code against whatever pays the bills, myself included.

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024779)

So does that mean you consider everyone who was at Google I/O to be a Google shill?

Re:Had a Lumia 920 for several weeks now.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024597)

Infidel! Burn him!!!!!

Simple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024439)

You aren't hearing from any, BECAUSE there are none

Can't be worse than Android (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024445)

My Razr maxx regularly skips while playing music. I have to wait 20 seconds for the home screen to load after I quit an app. And last week, the phone locked up on the "incoming call" screen. I had to do a hard reboot.

Android is worse (2)

DeathFromSomewhere (940915) | about 2 years ago | (#42024491)

I had a Motorola Milestone (international version of the original Droid) for a while, now running a Lumia 800. The Milestone would die at least once a day, and the battery would last maybe 10 hours if I left it completely alone. Even though the Milestone was a flagship Android phone at one point, I could write a giant TL;DR post about the problems I had with that phone.

My Lumia gets over 30 hours of battery on a single charge and has yet to crash or even do anything unexpected in the 6 months I've owned it. The difference in the quality of the phones is so night and day I can't imagine that a WP8 phone would be any worse than an Android.

Re:Android is worse (1)

_merlin (160982) | about 2 years ago | (#42024589)

You're comparing Motorola to Nokia. That's always going to come out favouring Nokia, as they've always been better at building phones. A Nokia Android phone would make a Motorola Windows phone look bad, too (if such things existed). Flagship means nothing - it was just the most expensive phone made by Motorola for a while. Motorola can easily make a shit phone expensive.

Re:Android is worse (2)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 2 years ago | (#42024743)

That's always going to come out favouring Nokia, as they've always been better at building phones

The days of Nokia having a meme associated with their quality of build are gone with their factories to china in part of Elops [continuing] cost cutting exercise.

Re:Android is worse (1)

_merlin (160982) | about 2 years ago | (#42024775)

The days of Nokia having a meme associated with their quality of build are gone with their factories to china in part of Elops [continuing] cost cutting exercise.

Oh I'm under no illusion that the legendary Nokia quality of the '90s and early '00s will ever be back, but they've always been. I just said they're better than Motorola. I know that's not saying much, considering how bad Motorola phones have been at least as far back as the v2088.

My iPhone crashed 3 times today... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024521)

does that count? It seems as time goes on our systems are less and less reliable. Doesn't really matter who made them. No, I have no windows 8 device, nor do I want that filth on my PC. I should mention it is an iPhone 4 and it is likely Apple no longer cares about this Siriless model anymore if that helps the fanbois excuse the apple fale.

Perhaps maybe it is just a new product with glitches. I remember the original iPhone was without fale... wait, no... it sucked a little bit more then this iPhone 4 as I remember.

Re:My iPhone crashed 3 times today... (2)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about 2 years ago | (#42024543)

does that count?

as much as you are an AC and we hardly trust you. I owned several iPhone (now i5) and never experienced a crash - not even once.

Re:My iPhone crashed 3 times today... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024587)

You should install DragonVale on it and see how often it doesn't, err, crash.

freezing, rebooting and battery problems .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024545)

Isn't that a list of top built-in features of the Android OS?

edge cases? (3, Informative)

Aryeh Goretsky (129230) | about 2 years ago | (#42024601)

Hello,

It would be interesting to know the scope of the problem(s), and how to exercise the(se) bug(s).

I have had a Nokia Lumia 920 for just under a week now (replacing my year old Nokia Lumia 900) and have not noted any performance or battery-life related issues with it. Admittedly, I have not done that much with it yet, as I am still reloading applications onto it (an area which is keen for improvement), but I have to say it has worked consistently without problem.

I wonder if the problems are due to a specific application or manufacturer-applied configuration.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

"Phones", in quotes (4, Insightful)

rueger (210566) | about 2 years ago | (#42024645)

I stopped worrying about battery life when I finally made the mental leap from "it's a phone with lots of features" to "it's cool little computer that also makes phone calls."

Considering all that I use it for, sixteen to twenty hours on a charge is pretty damned good for a computer that fits in my pocket.

FWIW - Nexus S Android GB, ICS, JB: No really crashes or serious problems. CM9 on the same phone - lots of wierdness.

Fai7Zors (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024661)

Sounds just like Win mobile 6! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42024667)

I have an Omnia i910 on the Bell network here in Canada..It has all the problems mentioned in this article. I have to reboot it all the time, it changes its battery usage and after reloading the os to original settings it will start to use the battery correctly again. Bluetooth causes it to crash if a call is dropped, all sorts of stupid software problems.

WTF are the coders in Redmond doing, sounds like they just recycle shit code and then patch it for the new releases. The second release of Win mobile to >6.1 fixed these problems...but Bell does not offer the patched OS! The assholes (%#*&%

I am almost willing to bet the same shit will happen with the first releases of Win Phone8 ...Bell and others will just sit there on their collective asses and wait for the contract to expire and then offer to recycle your old Nokia or HTC windows 8 piece of shit phone ..which is what they are doing with all their contract phones that they do not push software updates for!

Perhaps software glitches on Smart Phones are seen as little more than an opportunity to screw over customers buy making sure that they want to get rid of them at end of contract.

My prediction is that cell phones which are now 500 dollars plus will essentially be worthless like a 2 year old Windows laptop and that this bullshit is intentional collusion to obsolete devices by the manufactures with the acquiescence of the providers and software companies.

We live in a throw away society but this is starting to be ridiculous and will eventually bight us all in the ass because of our greed and stupidity!

 

Huh? (2)

thestudio_bob (894258) | about 2 years ago | (#42024695)

Every phone and every OS has its problems, and happy users probably aren't as vocal

Fuck that! Take your beatings like iPhone and Android. Jeezo, Microsoft (and your shills) you're a frick'n baby.

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