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Highway To Sell: AC/DC iTunes Snub Finally Over

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the genuine-angus dept.

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Hugh Pickens "The LA Times reports that after years of stubbornly arguing that iTunes was, in the words of singer Brian Johnson, 'going to kill music if they're not careful,' AC/DC has reached a deal with Apple to sell its entire catalog — 16 studio albums, four live albums and three compilations — through the service. AC/DC was one of the last high-profile holdouts from the digital music marketplace, outlasting the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd, all of which jumped into the realm long after much of the population had accepted the downloading future. Angus Young, AC/DC's lead guitarist (known for wearing a schoolboy's uniform when performing), had long argued against hawking the band's music because he didn't like the idea of allowing for individual song downloads — submitting that the group's albums were designed to be listened to from beginning to end. 'It's like an artist who does a painting,' he said in 2008. 'If he thinks it's a great piece of work, he protects it. It's the same thing: This is our work.'"

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Individual Song Downloads (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044643)

He's against it because all AC/DC songs sound exactly the same. Download one and you've got them all.

It follows this pattern:

NAME OF THE SONG!!!!
you got me singing
NAME OF THE SONG!!!!
now you're listening to
NAME OF THE SONG!!!!

Re:Individual Song Downloads (2)

BitZtream (692029) | about 2 years ago | (#42044659)

If they wanted them listened to beginning to end they should have made it a single track.

They didn't.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (5, Insightful)

jdray (645332) | about 2 years ago | (#42044737)

Furthermore, he doesn't seem to object to radio play of single songs. Consumption is consumption.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044783)

If they wanted them listened to beginning to end they should have made it a single track.

They didn't.

Herp derp, isn't that what a vinyl record is, and effectively how a CD player works? Wow.

Most albums have index marks, unlike Amarok (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42044839)

Vinyl records have index marks where the grooves are more widely spaced. CDs have index marks in the table of contents. If you want to make your album a unit, make it one continuous mix like a Mike Oldfield album [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Most albums have index marks, unlike Amarok (1, Interesting)

xaxa (988988) | about 2 years ago | (#42045389)

CDs specify a pause before each track. Usually it's 2 seconds (my old player counts down -0:02, -0:01, 0:00, 0:01), but it can be set to zero, in which case there's no gap at all, and the index is just a pointer to a frame to start playback from.

I have a few electronic albums like this.

Re:Most albums have index marks, unlike Amarok (2)

MightyYar (622222) | about 2 years ago | (#42045681)

All audio CDs following the Redbook standard are a single data stream, so I'm not sure where you are going with your argument. It is true that tracks are delineated only by the Table of Contents, but why would AC/DC program a Table of Contents if the Disc was intended to be listened to only in it's entirety?

I propose that they are completely full of shit.

Re:Most albums have index marks, unlike Amarok (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about 2 years ago | (#42045741)

I believe it's MP3s which have the 2 second pause. The GP's CDs are probably compiled from MP3s. It's probably why I also see messages about "gap information" when I'm transfering MP3s to my ipod with fubar 2000

Re:Most albums have index marks, unlike Amarok (2)

Gr8Apes (679165) | about 2 years ago | (#42045771)

CDs specify a pause before each track. Usually it's 2 seconds (my old player counts down -0:02, -0:01, 0:00, 0:01), but it can be set to zero, in which case there's no gap at all, and the index is just a pointer to a frame to start playback from.

I have a few electronic albums like this.

CDs do not specify a pause at all. The pause you're most likely referring to was that moronic burning software from the late 90s early 2000s that had those default options. A player that imposed such a moronic concept on its CDs would destroy the flow of an album like NIN's Pretty Hate Machine, from 1989, among others. Many CDs are mastered with a "quiet" period of approximately a second or so between songs, matching the pauses between songs on LPs, which were the visible areas (widely spaced grooves) so that a person could drop the needle near the beginning of a particular song of interest. There are also LPs where an entire side appears or sounds as one track - I believe side A of Tangerine Dream's Force Majeure and Rush's 2112 were 2 samples, but it's been a long time since I broke out any vinyl.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044885)

Isn't that what a vinyl record is, and effectively how a CD player works?

No, it's not. Do you not remember either one?

Re:Individual Song Downloads (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 2 years ago | (#42045755)

I remember getting the wax cylinder out of the box, putting it in the CD player, pressing the "Side B" button, then the button labeled "Track 4", then setting the speed to 45 revolutions per minute and finally tuning to 101.7 on the frequency modulating carrier wave to enable the decoding of the psycho-acoustically encoded audio frames.

Oh no, wait, I'm thinking about horse drawn carriages. My bad.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 years ago | (#42045033)

No, my CD would (after I programmed it once) play random/repeat on insertion of a CD (7 disc changer, JVC, purchased in the early 1990s).

Re:Individual Song Downloads (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 2 years ago | (#42044807)

There's still time to do it.

One big mp3 file...the album from beginning to end.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (4, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#42045249)

That's not how it worked. When this music was new, we had vinyl records. No remote control, no "skip" button. You put the record on the turntable, pit the needle in the groove, and listened. No way to mix up the tracks short of making a mix tape.

Dark Side of the Moon was one of these, and it wasn't designed to be listened to like you listen to a CD; when side 1 was over, you walked to the turntable, turned the record over, and played side two. DSOM doesn't really work well as a single track, but as two tracks.

However, ACDC is full of shit on this one. Their songs were never meant to be listened to in any particular order, and in fact that cassettes often had the songs in a different order than the LP, unlike DSOM, Magical Mystery Tour, Tommie, etc.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 2 years ago | (#42045399)

I have vinyl records. The have gaps between songs so you can jump to a song, even AC/DC albums.

AC/DC also did most of their work during the eight track period ... Again allowing you to skip songs easily

Re:Individual Song Downloads (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about 2 years ago | (#42045597)

Then they'd only get 99 cents for the whole album.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (3, Funny)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 2 years ago | (#42044705)

He's against it because all AC/DC songs sound exactly the same. Download one and you've got them all.

It follows this pattern:

NAME OF THE SONG!!!!
you got me singing
NAME OF THE SONG!!!!
now you're listening to
NAME OF THE SONG!!!!

Not the word I'd have used, but your point is valid nonetheless.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044971)

You're definitely thinking of this song [youtube.com] .

Re:Individual Song Downloads (3, Insightful)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42045195)

all AC/DC songs sound exactly the same

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Re:Individual Song Downloads (2)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | about 2 years ago | (#42045409)

A friend put it this way: "They play that song better than anyone else."

Re:Individual Song Downloads (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045501)

That sounds pretty catchy, but I didn't see it listed on any of their albums or in their original catalogue. Is it an iTunes exclusive?

Re:Individual Song Downloads (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 2 years ago | (#42045777)

He's against it because all AC/DC songs sound exactly the same.

Only if you listen to them through a diode bridge and capacitors.

Bologna (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044665)

If that were truly the case (must be played in order), AC/DC would have never had singles, music videos or radio play.

Morans.

Re:Bologna (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045611)

Get a brain!

Begining to end??? (4, Insightful)

superdave80 (1226592) | about 2 years ago | (#42044667)

...submitting that the group's albums were designed to be listened to from beginning to end

So, where was all the outrage when radio stations were playing one song at a time? You know, the one or two good songs that people actually wanted to listen to?

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044797)

Very true, but back then people were buying albums because they liked those two songs. These days, we finally have the option to not buy 8-10 tracks we don't want.

People into particular bands will buy albums, the vast majority might like a song or two but didn't have the option to get what they wanted. It was all or nothing (or pirate).

Re:Begining to end??? (4, Informative)

tilante (2547392) | about 2 years ago | (#42045045)

Funny, then, how AC/DC has released 52 singles in the course of their career... the most recent in 2011. You'd think that if they didn't want people to buy single songs, they wouldn't make singles....

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42045231)

You would also think they wouldn't have done a soundtrack album, much less one for a shitty b-rated Stephen King movie.

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 years ago | (#42045519)

Well, they also did Iron Man 2 -- which no matter what your opinion of the movie, made a butt-load of money and got them exposure.

I was in a restaurant the other day, and two young kids (like 8 or 9) were singing along and head bobbing with the AC/DC which was playing -- my guess is that Iron Man 2 is partly to credit, though, maybe they got it from their parents.

At this point, any artists who are holding out from iTunes and the other stores have lost track of how most people are buying music.

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045737)

You dare speak ill of Maximum Overdrive? But where else can you hear Lisa Simpson being extra annoying?

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#42044951)

Their radio play was the equivalent of itunes free 30 second intro to a single song.

If you believe an 'album' is really one long track then giving away one part of it is just the preview for the rest of it.

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

MrEricSir (398214) | about 2 years ago | (#42044965)

Let's not forget that this is AC/DC, a band with hits such as "Big Balls" and "You Shook Me All Night Long."

Don't get me wrong, I like AC/DC, but let's not pretend that they're the Mona Lisa here.

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045017)

a band with hits such as "Big Balls"

That song was clearly about fancy dance events

Re:Begining to end??? (3, Insightful)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42045245)

Fuck, those guys ROCK in concert, though.

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045377)

actually I had to discover this one before any acdc went on my playlist (Yes, i know, it plunders kraftwerk that's why it's cool)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIWgvJ-fNGE

Re:Begining to end??? (4, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 2 years ago | (#42044983)

The songs played on the radios were regarded by the bands as adverts (see: payola), and as such they didn't want to play the whole album because they wanted people to have to buy it to listen to the whole thing. The individual songs played on the radio were regarded as previews, not as complete works in themselves. In contrast, a downloaded track is regarded as a complete work by the band. No one complains that film previews contain scenes out of order, or that book previews only contain the first chapter, but the creators of both would strongly object to the idea of selling films by the scene[1] or books by the chapter.

[1] Certain Hollywood companies, however, would be very much in favour of this if they thought that they could get people to pay more that way.

Re:Begining to end??? (4, Informative)

Pope (17780) | about 2 years ago | (#42045071)

More like, where was all the outrage when AC/DC were selling 45s [wikipedia.org] and other singles?

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045075)

THANK YOU! I was coming in here to see if this has been brought up.

Meant to be listened to from beginning to end?!? Not on their fucking lives! Even Pink Floyd when claiming that was pushing it pretty hard, but AC/DC?!? There's one, MAYBE two listen-toable songs on their albums, and the rest is pure filler shit like all other big sellout bands... that being pretty much all bands.

Re:Begining to end??? (3, Informative)

nicholasjay (921044) | about 2 years ago | (#42045127)

...submitting that the group's albums were designed to be listened to from beginning to end

So, where was all the outrage when radio stations were playing one song at a time? You know, the one or two good songs that people actually wanted to listen to?

Not only that, but what about the compilation albums? Weren't they just an attempt to sell more records with minimal work? How were they put together?

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

L1mewater (557442) | about 2 years ago | (#42045287)

Not only that, but what about the compilation albums? Weren't they just an attempt to sell more records with minimal work? How were they put together?

Have they actually done any compilation albums? I'm not aware of one, and TFA seems to agree.

Re:Begining to end??? (1)

nicholasjay (921044) | about 2 years ago | (#42045397)

Not only that, but what about the compilation albums? Weren't they just an attempt to sell more records with minimal work? How were they put together?

Have they actually done any compilation albums? I'm not aware of one, and TFA seems to agree.

I can think of two. Who Made Who and the Iron Man 2 soundtrack.

Re:Begining to end??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045347)

Not only that, but what about the compilation albums? Weren't they just an attempt to sell more records with minimal work? How were they put together?

AC/DC have never released a compilation album.

One, Two, Three... (0)

Dr. Sheldon Cooper (2726841) | about 2 years ago | (#42044679)

HOKEY POKEY!

This looks like a Hokey Pppokey crowd!

Too late (5, Funny)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 2 years ago | (#42044681)

Hey guys, it's cool that you held out for so long and were all principled, but I've already got copies of most of your work.

I paid somewhat less than what iTunes is suggesting. I guess you win.

Re:Too late (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 2 years ago | (#42044873)

Looks like I can get the CD NEW from Amazon for many of these albums cheaper than itunes sells the download version... disconnect much

Re:Too late (1)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | about 2 years ago | (#42045039)

That's because all those unwanted CDs take too much space and need to be sold at clearance.

Re:Too late (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 2 years ago | (#42045065)

I've found that with all of the music that I've considered buying on iTunes. Most things seem to be 20-50% cheaper (including delivery) if you buy the shiny plastic disc than if you get them from iTunes. I guess that's the price that you pay for immediacy. Or, I suppose if listen to bands that suck and only produce one track per album that's worth listening to then it's cheaper to buy a single track on iTunes than an entire album anywhere...

Re:Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045885)

Really? A CD was $19 last time I saw one in a store and I buy MP3's on Amazon for $8 or $9 per album. But it's been a loooong time since I looked at any in a store.

Re:Too late (1, Troll)

Beardo the Bearded (321478) | about 2 years ago | (#42045067)

Looks like I can get the CD NEW from Amazon for many of these albums cheaper than itunes sells the download version... disconnect much

I'm sure I've got a player for an optical disk somewhere in my house. It might be in the computer that's unplugged and sitting in pieces under my old desk in the basement.

Re:Too late (2)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 2 years ago | (#42045115)

And everyone who isn't as cool as you can easily rip a CD in moments to a lossless audio codec and throw out that optical disk and still have spent less
on the album than a itunes purchase.

Re:Too late (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 2 years ago | (#42045601)

THAT's why you have an old Pentium IV laptop complete with parallel, serial and a VGA ports sitting in the corner.

And why you boot it up and let XP update for a couple of hours. I just do this in the winter when I need a bit more warmth in the basement.

Re:Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045143)

I paid somewhat less than what iTunes is suggesting.

Yes, we all win because that means Apple didn't receive their cut with which to fund further legal cases.

hold out? (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#42044701)

I really don't think The Beatles' situation would be called a "hold out" lol.

Re:hold out? (0)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 years ago | (#42045129)

John Lenin refused to give permission to Apple.

Re:hold out? (4, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#42045229)

Shut the fuck up, Donny! V.I. Lenin. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!

Re:hold out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045341)

The Beatles were the original Apple corporation. Apple stole their logo from the band. Ironic, eh?

Whatever (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044735)

The only thing that's ruined music is the boring croonings of these severely overrated hacks.
I don't know if AC/DC was just before my time (I'm 30 FFS) but AC/DC is seriously some of the most boring and bland "Metal" I've ever encountered. Maybe it was edgy back in the day, whatever. I don't know.

Them and KISS. Well, they have a fun shock/brand thing going but that just puts them on the same level as Gwar. And I'd much rather go to a Gwar concert. Being fed to the giant foam rubber world maggot in an early 90's concert is one of the highlights of my life.

Re:Whatever (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 2 years ago | (#42044791)

AC/DC aren't Metal. Never have been. They are rock or hard rock. No matter what anyone says.

Re:Whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044949)

They're a 'pub rock' band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub_rock_(Australia)

Re:Whatever (2)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#42045159)

AC/DC isn't metal. They're stuff is pretty much juiced up rock and roll and they happen to have as a key member probably one of the best blues guitarists around.

Re:Whatever (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#42045265)

I agree Gwar concerts are some of the most fun concerts one can go to.

I still remember going to the "When the shit hits the fans" tour, my contacts were dyed bright blue for around a month from all the stuff they sprayed the crowd with. My eyes were already very blue, this made them damn near glow.

Re:Whatever (1)

SteffenM (166724) | about 2 years ago | (#42045595)

My eyes were already very blue, this made them damn near glow.

They were spraying the crowd with Melange?

Re:Whatever (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#42045711)

Naw, it only colored the contact lens, not the whites of my eyes, now that would have been REALLY cool.

Re:Whatever (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42045321)

AC/DC was never meant to be thoughtful metal. They were a fun hard rock band, and that's all they ever aimed for (and they were great at it). It's not like they were writing songs about politics or social issues. Megadeth those boys weren't, but they weren't trying to be either.

Listening to an album from start to finish... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044741)

Easy there, Brian... Back in Black is a good CD, but it isn't exactly Dark Side of The Moon.

Re:Listening to an album from start to finish... (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 2 years ago | (#42045177)

Sales figures would suggest otherwise. Both have nearly equal global sales, and are among the biggest sellers of all time.

Love DSOTM, but there's nothing quite like the experience Back In Black played very loud while cruising down the highway.

best albums for in the car (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045779)

DSOTM is best played in the car when it's foggy.

(Try it sometime, it's surreal)

Keep your music (0)

Karna99 (784157) | about 2 years ago | (#42044769)

While I have some fond memories of a few events, more and more I don't give a fuck about the attitude of entitlement from all parties involved.

Seriously lets get on with solving some real problems...

Once old man said to me (1, Offtopic)

mapkinase (958129) | about 2 years ago | (#42044837)

Once old (and wise) man said to me: "people are not getting better with age". Now, old man myself, the wisdom of this saying is getting to me more and more.

With age we do not get wiser, we do not get better, we do not get stronger, we do not get more moral.

Instead of wisdom we get inability to learn, so we only can teach. Instead of getting more moral, we just get more nostalgic of the non-existent times.

By Time,
Every man is at loss
Except those who believe, do good deeds
And call others to Patience and Truth.

Re:Once old man said to me (1)

SensitiveMale (155605) | about 2 years ago | (#42045077)

I wish I had mod points right now. Your entire post was idiotic.

And wrong.

Re:Once old man said to me (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045333)

And your father was a hamster and your mother smelled of elderberries!

Re:Once old man said to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045639)

I don't think there are -1 idiotic or -1 wrong mods.

Re:Once old man said to me (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about 2 years ago | (#42045705)

Your post was quite idiotic, too. Calling someone wrong doesn't make you sound smart. If you share a little more information about why they're wrong and maybe help them get to be right, that might make you sound smart.

Re:Once old man said to me (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#42045795)

Then you would have been modding incorrectly.

If someone is wrong you don't mod them down, you explain why they are wrong, that is why there is not a -1 Wrong option.

Spite (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044843)

Beings stubborn cost them a lot of money

Re:Spite (1)

Sir_Sri (199544) | about 2 years ago | (#42045037)

Not necessarily. They'll probably get a flood of purchases from people when they go live on itunes, people who wanted their music could still order CD's and rip them. And their primary compensation at this point might not be from music sales anyway.

This may have actually made them money, people who only wanted on track gave up and bought a CD and ripped it, as long as the amount they earned from that is more than they lost to piracy from people not wanting to buy a full album for one song they ended up ahead, and demographics have now shifted so far that no one in their target customer base is going to be buying full CD's anyway.

They only really get to sell you a song once on CD or iTunes, you don't need to buy it to format shift it after all. So the more CD's they sold for 10 dollars rather than single tracks for 1 the better (for them). But the market I suspect finally fell out completely for CD's in the last year. Even dedicated music shops near where I am don't allocate more than a third of their floorspace to CD's anymore. There might be a few specialty hold outs, but that who industry is gone, finally.

Re:Spite (1)

JudgeFurious (455868) | about 2 years ago | (#42045203)

I imagine far more people who only wanted one track downloaded it illegally instead of buying it. I know I did. In fact a long time ago I added these guys to my "Metallica Response Plan" and downloaded their entire discography in FLAC whereupon I proceeded to give it away freely to every person I encountered who expressed the slightest bit of interest in it. People like this slow the world down.

Re:Spite (1)

Jeng (926980) | about 2 years ago | (#42045823)

I prefer to just pick up old cds at half price books and other places used cds are sold. Starting to get the physical copies of what I pirated.

Artist Rights and Wrongs (2)

AmericaRunsOnDunkin (1838512) | about 2 years ago | (#42044893)

Attention artistic narcissists:

  • You have the right to create beautiful works of art that stir people's souls.
  • You have the right to keep your work private and only share it with those you want in the way you want.
  • You have the right to release your work to the public and try to profit commercially from it.
  • You DO NOT have the right to tell me how to experience your work. Once I have access to your album / song / painting / show, I can chop it up, listen to it backward, peer at it in a funhouse mirror, or feed it to my dog if I so desire.

In short, your right to swing your art ends at my nose. That is all.

Re:Artist Rights and Wrongs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045083)

Wrong.

They have the right to tell you how to experience your work.
However, you have the right to completely and utterly ignore them and experience the work however you wish.

Re:Artist Rights and Wrongs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045673)

All art is a collaboration between the artist and the person experiencing the art. If the artist has done a good job of understanding the context that the viewer/listener will bring to the collaboration and building upon it, then the work is appreciated. Otherwise it will be panned. Some artists forget this. That is fine. They will be forgotten in turn.

Re:Artist Rights and Wrongs (1)

Imagix (695350) | about 2 years ago | (#42045959)

Check out Christopher Tin's Calling All Dawns. That CD sounds awesome listening to it all the way through. The songs have a thematic connection in the order that they're presented. Having said that, there's a couple tracks in there that are really good on their own. I haven't heard Mr. Tin complain that you can buy Baba Yetu on it's own.... (heck, it was in a video game as the theme song....)

For those about to post we SALUTE you!!!! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044935)

It was a fast machine, she kept her buffers clean
Was the biggest damn kernel that I ever seen
It wasn't crap from Fry's or a Rasberry Pi
Knocking me out with those solid state drives

Bootin up from the share, fast as a mac book air

Looked for the root folder but I was already there

The case started shaking, doom started quaking

My mind was aching, we were making it

And you shook me all night long

Yeah, you shook me all night long

No longer relevant (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42044943)

Sorry guys, your work was good 20-30 years ago, but most of us don't care anymore.

And the few of us who do care already have your stuff on CD and can rip it ourselves, or buy a used CD and rip that.

Re:No longer relevant (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045663)

>Sorry guys, your work was good 20-30 years ago, but most of us don't care anymore.

gtfo.

akadacka (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045059)

1) ACDC is a real band. As in its all about the music. Its not like they ever went around suing people for downloading etc. To be frank, I don't think they really care. They have plenty of money, they sell consistently well. Live shows sell out in minutes, memorabilia sales are star wars big. They even still put out new albums.
2) People who are fans of ACDC will gladly listen to their music in any format and will still buy records or CD's or tapes.I guess bikies have Ipods now?
3) I too find the idea of a great acdc song blasting out of some gen z tiny earphones right next to some gawdaful pop track by my chemical romance sick that I wouldn't want to see it on itunes either.
4) Itunes killed the record store. Which sucks.

Oh and the original article. Big balls is awesome. They don't want mass market pop appeal. They want fans who appreciate big balls for what it is. Whats next, you don't like Rosey? TNT, back in black, razors edge? You don't like dirty deeds?! Im sorry, you don't deserve to listen to acdc. Unless you can kick over a table in a pub out the back of rural Australia, jump up and sing a very gutteral version of dirty deeds (the entire album) then you can't be an Australian citizen.

  Obviously the citizenship requirements for the USA are a lot less demanding.

Re:akadacka (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | about 2 years ago | (#42045197)

3) I too find the idea of a great acdc song blasting out of some gen z tiny earphones right next to some gawdaful pop track by my chemical romance sick that I wouldn't want to see it on itunes either.

Thank you for informing us that only teens purchase and consume music in digital format, and that music in such a format can only be heard through crappy earphones. If you're too old and stubborn to appreciate the convenience and quality of digital music, that's fine, but do us all a favor and stop pretending that you know better than us or are on to something.

4) Itunes killed the record store. Which sucks.

Obviously the record store was an inferior business model. That's called progress.

Re:akadacka (1)

JudgeFurious (455868) | about 2 years ago | (#42045369)

The record store died long before iTunes son. Go talk to Walmart about that issue. Other than that little detail "as you were".

Re:akadacka (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 2 years ago | (#42045707)

4) Itunes killed the record store. Which sucks.

Wax Tracks, [waxtraxrecords.com] Vintage Vinyl, and these guys [recordstores.com] beg to differ.

Looking around the town I live in, there are no less than 5 record stores still around, all apparently doing quite well for themselves.

Personally, I think there will always be a market for the 'durable good' version of digital things, as it's a lot harder for Amazon (or whoever) to remove my CD collection from my house than it is to just close my account and deny me access.

Digital distribution is a fad, just hasn't hit the backlash point yet.

Change is teh bad (1)

theangrypeon (1306525) | about 2 years ago | (#42045069)

in the words of singer Brian Johnson, 'going to kill our obsolete business model if they're not careful,'

FTFY

When I sell a painting it's part of a show (3, Interesting)

kawabago (551139) | about 2 years ago | (#42045107)

When I have a show of my paintings I don't insist someone buy all of them or none of them. I want people to buy the one work that speaks directly to them. Some works never sell and they are taken out of their frames and put away for posterity. I care very deeply what happens to my art work but I certainly don't worry about how people view it. That they do view it is what matters to me.

Violating the sanctity of "Givin the Dog a Bone" (4, Insightful)

T.E.D. (34228) | about 2 years ago | (#42045147)

— submitting that the group's albums were designed to be listened to from beginning to end.

I could easily see that argument for a Pink Floyd album, but AC/DC? Really?

I mean, seriously. This is from a fan. I've probably listened to the Back in Black album straight through cover to cover more than all but two or three people walking this earth, band members included. I'd agree that the song ordering on there is probably better than a random one would be (note: the "Title track" leads off side 2 rather than 1, which is interesting, but it works).

But would I ever sit down and argue with someone that its a travesty to listen to "Shake a Leg" without following it up immediately with "Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution"? Hell no! Just listen to it and enjoy.

Oblig (1)

moeinvt (851793) | about 2 years ago | (#42045257)

Come on come on, lovin' for the money
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk

It's like an artist who does a painting,then hides (1)

D4C5CE (578304) | about 2 years ago | (#42045275)

it from view?

AC/DC - Dual Power Heating Pad (1)

carrier lost (222597) | about 2 years ago | (#42045309)

Thirty-year-old rock group with fifty-year-old members:

"I'm on the sidewalk to heck"

Fucking pretentious asshole (1)

sootman (158191) | about 2 years ago | (#42045435)

Yeah, because you really can't appreciate the subtle nuances of "Sink the Pink" unless you hear it after "Danger" as originally intended [wikipedia.org] in 1985. Or, um, after "D.T." in 1986. [wikipedia.org] Right. Anyway...

I love their music, but seriously, he's full of shit.

Sorry kids! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42045537)

I think the point behind the "not breaking it up into single songs" was meant more for people being able to BUY a single song at a time...playing a song on the radio or making a video is promotion for the album so it's different.

Oh, and AC/DC is STILL one of the best rock bands ever! Never changed their sound or style and you get what you get every damn time...so suck it! Lol!!

The pinball game came out with mix of music (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#42045669)

The pinball game came out with mix of music from there albums and you get the pick songs as well.

Everyone that likes ACDC... (1)

Nyder (754090) | about 2 years ago | (#42045943)

... has already converted their DVD's or downloaded flac's (or mp3's) of them already.

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