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Israeli Infrastructure Proves Too Strong For Anonymous

Soulskill posted about 2 years ago | from the adobe-flash-up-to-date-on-all-government-sites dept.

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Mephistophocles writes "Ever since the beginning of Operation Pillar of Defense, hackers have been working overtime to strike a blow against the Israeli government's computer systems, Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz said Sunday. No fewer than 44 million attacks have been recorded since the operation began five days ago — with nearly all of them failing, thanks to the recent strengthening of computer defense systems in Israel. Speaking at a special press conference at the Government Computing Center in Jerusalem about the cyber war against Israel that has accompanied Hamas's rocket attacks, Steinitz said that hackers 'are trying to disable the symbols of Israeli sovereignty, to enter web sites and install anti-Israel content, thus compromising information and data and damaging the government's ability to serve the public.' Most of the attacks, he said, were against government sites, like the Prime Minister's Office site, and security-related sites, such as that of the Home Front Command, the body charged with informing Israelis on how to protect themselves in the event of an attack. Out of those 44 million-plus attacks on government and defense related sites, said Steinitz, only one succeeded – partially. One site, which he did not name, was 'wobbly for a few minutes,' but quickly recovered. Even though the government has been successful in warding off hack attacks, Steinitz said that government sites were fully backed up and mirrored, meaning that they could be replaced by a duplicate site instantly if the original site were compromised."

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The sure are great at Propaganda (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046869)

That's for certain.

Israel has nuclear weapons. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046953)

I'm not sure whether they are a-bomb or h-bombs, but they have them. And I suspect, within my lifetime, they will use them. This one single act will render all other acts of terrorism Lilliputian by comparison.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (4, Insightful)

PortHaven (242123) | about 2 years ago | (#42047021)

They won't use them, unless their very survival is at threat.

Leave Israel alone, and they'll leave you alone.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047067)

How do you know that?

How do you know that?

It sure looks like they are as blameworthy as the other side. No one wants to hear it but Israel with the West Bank/Gaza Strip and the USA in Iraq/Afghanistan need to remember how WW2 ended. With the Marshall plan. Anything short of a similar rebuilding program will only lead to what we have now.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (2, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#42047293)

Yes, the Marshall plan. You know, Germany first gave up and only then it was rebuilt. Somehow I don't think that the Arabs will be as willing to distance themselves from Qu'ran as the Germans were with Mein Kampf. Oh, speaking of Mein Kampf...you *do* know that in the Middle East, it's quite the bestseller?

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047453)

You don't think their population would distance themselves from the crazies for a chance at a good life?

You don't think AC, McDonalds and TVs would pacify them?

I think that sort of easy life is attractive to everyone and only the shitty living conditions they people live in motivates them to behave as they do. They want someone to blame, they want someone to fight because they have nothing else.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#42047599)

You don't think their population would distance themselves from the crazies for a chance at a good life?

In many of the Middle-Eastern countries, you can only be non-crazy at the cost of your own health, safety, or even life. Being crazy is a mandatory social norm there. Saying that you're not crazy anymore can get you jailed, at the very least.

You don't think AC, McDonalds and TVs would pacify them?

What, you'd combat fire with earthquakes? Brilliant. That's what the world needs...

They want someone else to blame, they want someone else to fight because they have nothing else.

FTFY. They had a serious head start on us as late as around, say, 1400. Pray tell, what did they do to squander it the way they did? But people in general are not exactly famous for being able to admit their own mistakes, even when it's quite obvious that no other course of action is nearly that sensible.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047693)

We are not talking about part of Israel, for better or worse. Not other nations.

How are the things that keep first world nations nice and peaceful fire? Do you really think AC is evil?

These people did nothing to squander a way their lead, they were not even thought of at that time. Most of them were born after the 1948 formation of the current state of Israel. They were born into this situation. You can't see how being born into poverty in an occupied area not even acknowledged as part of the greater State, would lead to this sort of thing?

Understanding on both sides would go a long way towards letting this issue be solved.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047609)

Nobody's asking them to give up the Qu'ran. The Hamas Charter, on the other hand...

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047309)

You're missing a step. Before there was the Marshall Plan, there was the utter and complete defeat of Nazi Germany by brute military force. The Allies didn't say "Sorry about opposing you and hurting your feelings, Adolph, here's a ton of money to start building your Thousand Year Reich. We're so sure you're ready to hold hands and sing Kum-ba-yah that we won't even make you renounce your intention to exterminate members of 'inferior' races."

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047387)

I am not missing a step you are assuming I am not advocating such a solution.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0, Flamebait)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 2 years ago | (#42047483)

Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany.

Plain, simple, true.

Like WWI, US scooped glory and declared spoils, with the least to lose, and at the smallest risk taken.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

murdocj (543661) | about 2 years ago | (#42047595)

As blameworthy? They are responding to hundreds of rocket attacks. Got that? ANY nation would respond the way Israel is responding. The only "nations" that don't respond when they are attacked are ones where central authority has broken down.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (1, Insightful)

sd4f (1891894) | about 2 years ago | (#42047245)

I'm sure the palastinians would like to be left alone...

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (4, Insightful)

murdocj (543661) | about 2 years ago | (#42047621)

They could be. All they need to do acknowledge that Israel is a legitimate nation. But you know, Hamas won't do that. They want to abolish Israel. Kind of hard for Israel to leave alone people who want to destroy it.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047689)

Leave the invasors alone and they'll leave you alone.

Sorry no, there was already peopel living there when they moved in. I don't care if they believe God said it was their turf, Irael is in the worng here.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047049)

Yeah, the scary/funny thing about that too is the survivors left on the radioactive cinder formerly known as Earth are going to think Hitler was a genius. I mean i was sitting back one day thinking up impossible sci-fi scenarios like where Hitler was rehabilitated and celebrated and... yeah, Israel starting a nuclear holocaust is how.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (2, Interesting)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 2 years ago | (#42047105)

You know, if the Middle East suddenly magically disappeared, I wouldn't give a damn. Hell, I'd probably celebrate. No more phantasmagoric indoctrination for future generations? Yay for that!

But I'd keep Israel. They do useful stuff, such as new Intel microarchitectures, and ICQ, and PHP...OK, scratch the last two. But at least they export tangibly beneficial stuff and not armies of loonies.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047373)

I don't care how book-smart a person is, if they are delusional enough to believe in an invisible sky-daddy they are at once useless and dangerous, obsolete in the new world order.

I'd nuke both Israel and the rest of the Middle-East. Or, thinking more magically, I'd invent a device that would vaporize only religious and nationalist zealots on both sides. Theirs is a petty squabble about holy land, utterly pointless and meaningless outside of a mythological context.

Living in a major college city, I've met a disproportionate amount of obnoxiously stereotypical Jews and Muslims. Lately I've been meeting a lot of obnoxious Jews. I know a few people who were half-Jewish and very decent people until the Middle East is brought up, then they start foaming at the mouth and yelling and becoming visibly agitated, even though they themselves are not practicing Jews and have been (and will never visit) Israel. Kill the Christians while we're at it. Religious morons are causing all of the problems going on in the world now.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047463)

Petty squabble about holy land? Fuck you.

I'd divide Jerusalem in an instant, if that would have helped any. I'm defending home.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047619)

Might as well nuke the 40+% of Americans who think the world is ~6000 years old...

Such an algorithm isn't really a good starting point.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047515)

Israel's army is made of hotties. http://goo.gl/7HSr1

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (0)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 2 years ago | (#42047441)

A bombs. About 80 of them. And it is said they have missiles targeted on London, Paris and Berlin. Israel goes, Europe goes too. A good way to keep foreign governments onside. Mind you, I was told this by a South African. YMMV.

Re:Israel has nuclear weapons. (1)

Real_Reddox (1010195) | about 2 years ago | (#42047553)

"I believe for no reason that Israel will doom this world without cause, and that's why they are as bad as Hamas etc." FTFY

Re:The sure are great at Propaganda (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047581)

That's for certain.

Nah, they're actually pretty shit at it. My news feed was filled with images of poor Palestinians getting bombed and injured by Israeli counterattacks while the damage done by Hamas backed by the Muslim Brotherhood was blacked out by the media. Most people see it merely as Israeli aggression, like it's a crime that they should protect their borders from forces that would only find happiness if the region was a smoking crater.

A little bit like Obama's cover ups and half truths not being nearly as important in the media as "I love Big Bird" and some boneheaded "legitimate rape" comment that Romney didn't even say.

Screenshot or it didn't happen (1)

hawks5999 (588198) | about 2 years ago | (#42046887)

Sounds like first class COINTELPRO.

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (1, Troll)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#42047009)

Lox Bagels or GTFO!

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 2 years ago | (#42047703)

Lox Bagels

Hamantashen would be more appropriate in this case.

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047031)

Sounds like first class PARANOID EXTREMIST:

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047675)

True. Everyone knows that the Israeli state never lies about anything. Really...

Duh: we've seen examples enough in the past that they have no problem at all with lying, faking evidence, and putting out propaganda while silencing critics - even if they have to kidnap them from Italy.

As for COINTELPRO, that was a well-documented program to infiltrate and disrupt dissidents in the USA so it has little relation to this item, which is about propaganda.

Do I believe, in this specific case, that the Israeli state is lying? Hardly - I don't see a good enough reason for them to risk their credibility, which they're going to need badly in the next weeks. But that doesn't mean they don't lie when they think they can get away with it.

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047071)

If they had been victorious: "As you can PLAINLY see, the forces of Justice(tm) and Righteousness(tm) on the internet have succeeded once again, as it always has been and always will be, as we are Just and Right. The all-knowing might and goodness of THE PEOPLE will never fail or be proven wrong, ever. Ever."

Since they instead failed: "NO. WRONG. This is obviously a FRAUD by THE BAD GUYS. The all-knowing might and goodness of THE PEOPLE can never fail, so this story was a complete LIE. NEVER. If they know what's good for them, they'll give me all their logs. As a start. You'd BETTER get ready to physically ship me ALL your servers, complete with all encryption keys and administrative passwords, so I CAN CHECK FOR MYSELF. But since you're too much of COWARDS to do that, all of eternity will know you're LIARS and FRAUDS and WE WON AND YOU LOST JUST ADMIT IT YOU LOST WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH."

Funny, really. I thought most of the tech world was mocking the Republicans for just such an attitude post-election. Were you just worried that someone else perfected your own techniques and might use them against you?

Re:Screenshot or it didn't happen (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 2 years ago | (#42047423)

I wouldn't say first class. While I think Anonymous is really overhyped here, it does seem resistant to cointelpro. First off because cointelpro tactics weren't designed for internet groups or organizations. Second because they are, to a degree, amorphous. Saying "Ha ha, we withstood your attacks!" isn't going to discourage anonymous, it's going to invite more attacks. If Israel actually is making up attacks that didn't happen, all the moreso.

Should probably keep quiet about this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046889)

Down in 3, 2 1 ...

Congratulations Israel (0, Flamebait)

Spy Handler (822350) | about 2 years ago | (#42046929)

you have won the cyber security warz. Now how about being a gracious winner and stop oppressing the Palestinians in real life?

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046981)

[citation needed]

Re:Congratulations Israel (3, Insightful)

operagost (62405) | about 2 years ago | (#42046995)

Why don't stop being ignorant of the fact that Hamas' leaders have made it clear that they want Israel destroyed and all ethnic Jews eliminated? Why don't you stop being ignorant of the fact that Hamas has been initiated this exchange since they acquired Iranian weapons capable of reaching Tel Aviv months ago? Israel never fires the first shot, yet they are called the aggressors. I'm tired, TIRED of ignorant simpletons and their rhetoric.

Re:Congratulations Israel (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047099)

Probably because they forced these people to live in walled off Areas and took long from farmers to build those walls.

Sure Israel has done this to defend itself, but it chose the wrong path. Something like the marshall plan and a single state would have been a far better solution. Now Hamas and the Israeli far right parties need each other. This is how they both keep the power they have.

Re:Congratulations Israel (3, Informative)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#42047267)

You know, if the palestinians hadn't been sending suicide bombers, and putting snipers on hills/buildings the wall wouldn't exist at all. Notice how you don't hear about either one anymore except at checkpoints, where they try to sneak someone in, or they've strapped it to some poor retarded kid who could be easily manipulated. Luckily the half dozen times they tried they've managed to talk the kids out of blowing themselves up.

Re:Congratulations Israel (4, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | about 2 years ago | (#42047421)

Your comment is the kind of tit-for-tat that keeps this pointless conflict going.

I acknowledged the reason for doing this, and I can even see why someone would make that choice. That does not mean I believe it to be an ideal solution.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047561)

h4rr4r saying tit-for-tat argumentation is pointless.
Oh boy everyone click on his comment history right now and enjoy yourselves.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#42047637)

Sorry no, my comment isn't. Someone with an IQ under 60 doesn't make that choice. They have the choice forced on them. Usually because they're not worth keeping, or because the family has been paid for the glory of allah, or because they're so blindly indoctrinated that they wish to kill jews. That's the reality of it there. It doesn't help when the education system itself(paid and funded by the UN and inturn by taxpayers world wide), teaches the same thing. Or that kids get a daily dose of it too on their state run TV. And never forget that it's multigenerational.

Remember, that they've been given autonomy, they've been given elections. Both of which they chose to install a terrorist loving entity. Remember which side walked away, it wasn't Israel. Remember which side decided that martyrdom and death to the jews above all was the preferable goal. Again that wasn't Israel. And between the two, which one gives full rights to all citizens, including the right to vehemently disagree without being executed in the streets and dragged behind a motorcycle. [blogspot.ca] I'll give you a hint, it's not Israel.

Re:Congratulations Israel (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 2 years ago | (#42047653)

So, who's going to break the cycle of violence? If you meet violence with violence, you get more violence. Someone will have to meet violence with kindness, and you don't seem to think the Palestinians can do it. So shouldn't you be encouraging Israel to do so?

The only other alternative is the complete elimination of the Palestinian people. But by operaghost's [slashdot.org] logic, that would justify Palestinian aggression against Israel.

The real solution is to acknowledge that neither Jewish nor Muslim states have any right to exist. The only just government is secular and democratic. Create a secular and democratic state where both israelis and palestinians have equal rights to vote. Then they can fight their wars in parliament, and terrorism will be a law enforcement issue.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047633)

Probably because they forced these people to live in walled off Areas and took long from farmers to build those walls.

Sure Israel has done this to defend itself, but it chose the wrong path. Something like the marshall plan and a single state would have been a far better solution. Now Hamas and the Israeli far right parties need each other. This is how they both keep the power they have.

They? Surely you mean the UN, which means pretty much all remaining powerful countries of WW2, which established the Israeli state.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047227)

why don't you stop occupying other people's lands ?

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047289)

What if Palestine would suddenly receive a couple of trillion dollars from the other Arab nations, then got nukes, occupied parts of Israel, cut off transportation from Israel to the outside world and told Israel to shut up and stop whining? That's how I see it. And I think that's how most people see the situation. Israel as a nation needs to stop being a big ugly dick.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

sd4f (1891894) | about 2 years ago | (#42047411)

How do you know they haven't sent in agent provocateurs? Their spy powers are pretty good, they keep on finding hamas people (and the whole family as well) in their homes when they bomb the house. The mossad is a very effective spy force, they've done heaps of black ops in the past, and i have a suspicion that this may be an effective way to "legally" murder people, spark controversy and all the while, appear like the victim, by guiding gullible hamas people into making the first visible attack.

Re:Congratulations Israel (1)

murdocj (543661) | about 2 years ago | (#42047723)

Well, there are only two problems with that theory. One is that the attack on Israel isn't a small operation with a few homegrown rockets. These are sophisticated missiles supplied by Iran that have been bought, moved hundreds of miles, smuggled through tunnels, and fired by trained terrorists. In order to this, the Mossad would have to be superhuman.

The 2nd problem is that there just isn't any reason for Israel to do this. It's not like they are going to permanent occupy Gaza, they gave that up years ago. The only reason Israel is fighting is to destroy the missile smuggling operation... but according to the provocateur hypothesis, that's being run by Israel!

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047737)

How do you know they haven't sent in agent provocateurs? Their spy powers are pretty good, they keep on finding hamas people (and the whole family as well) in their homes when they bomb the house. The mossad is a very effective spy force, they've done heaps of black ops in the past, and i have a suspicion that this may be an effective way to "legally" murder people, spark controversy and all the while, appear like the victim, by guiding gullible hamas people into making the first visible attack.

Them's some pretty bold claims. You have evidence to back them up, or is this just some fantasy cooked up from rejected scripts from Call of Duty?

Re:Congratulations Israel (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 2 years ago | (#42047495)

Now how about being a gracious winner and stop oppressing the Palestinians in real life?

Why don't stop being ignorant of the fact that Hamas' leaders have made it clear that they want Israel destroyed and all ethnic Jews eliminated?

What does that have to do with anything, aside from muddying the issues? Hamas says mean things. Palestinians voted for them. Hamas attacked Israel. That doesn't mean that Israel isn't oppressing Palestinians, nor does it mean they would deserve anything Israel decides to do with them.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047519)

LOL@ Israel never fires the first shot, as if occupying a piece of land on the basis of religion and victimhood is not equvialent to "Firing the first shot"

Re:Congratulations Israel (1, Flamebait)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#42046999)

who's attacking whom, again?

who sends rockets into soverign territory with the SOLE intention of harming ANYONE inside, civilian or otherwise?

who has walked away from the bargaining table 100% of the time?

who has, as its main goal in life, the complete destruction of all jews (not just israelis, look at the hamas charter if you are not sure.)

now, troll, go back under the rock you hide behind.

then again:

The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).

Re:Congratulations Israel (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047229)

Not this bigoted bullshit again. You think the oppression of Muslims is justified because their holy book is antisemitic. Guess what, the Christian Bible is just as bigoted. It justifies rape, murder, and slavery. It treats women less than dogs.

But most Christians are reasonable people. They don't follow their hate filled book. Nor do most Muslims.

Now Hamas is a hate filled group and their crimes are notorious. But that doesn't give you the right to use your bigotry to paint all Muslims as wanting to murder Jews. It is false. It is a lie. It is pure slander.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047643)

Wait, so you admit that they're both bigoted. That doesn't disprove GP now does it? It rather reinforces his argument by admitting that the Muslim holy book is as degenerate. As atheists/agnostics here we can freely pass judgement on either without being accused by butthurt people like you of being on the other religious side. One doesn't have to be a Jew or Christian to call out Muslim bullshit.

hey zionist! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047413)

I'm glad you are content with the millions of Palestinians that have been killed since Israel was bombed into Existence by the Rothschild backed banking cabal in 1948. Yes, you are probably completely blissfully ignorant that Palestine existed just fine for 2000 years before your holy roller bullshit occured. But just to make it crystal fucking clear for you: have a look at this map! [chrishorner.net]

Yes, in the midst of the list of your cowardly fallacies you've seem to savagely forgotten that Israel has been and continues it's own open holocaust against the Palestinian people. But since either your dumbass parents, some priest of rabbi, or some mainstream babbling idiot on fox newws told you that Israel is "holy" and "Is where Jesus comes from!", Palestine must be the enemy!

Here's what's wrong with people like you. You simply can't grasp the fucking concept that a cabal of bankers backed by lots of money and troops came into a sovereign nation and completely took it over after 2000 years; and continues to take more and more and more, leaving the worst concentration camp (YES THEY ARE BASICALLY THAT) footprint of the modern age. If someone invaded where you live (probably comfy USA America) after 2000 years and wouldn't leave would you stand up for your family and people no matter the costs? Well I bet *you* wouldn't because you're a fucking pussy. But the Palestinian people choose to do so.

And for your retarded religion quotes made up by man , or men, who have never listened or spoken to God.. I have some for you zionist:

A gentile who studies the Law deserves death. (BT Sanhedrin 59a).
It is permissible to cheat a gentile in court. (BT Baba Kamma 113a).
God is displeased when Jews show hospitality to gentiles. (BT Sanhendrin 104a).
A gentile who observes a day of rest deserves death. (BT Sandendrin 58b).
If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile it does not have to be returned. (BT Baba Mezia 24a. Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
BT Sanhedrin 52B: “A non-Jew is not considered a neighbor.”

And so on and so forth.. How about you keep talking to pretend fairy people out of this? As Judaism and Christianity and it's crusades is a whole other topic I could shit on you on.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047417)

I think you both live under a rock. Fuck all of your religions. As far as I am concerned, you should bomb each other to oblivion so the rest of the world can move on.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047575)

LOL

Who founded the group that went on to become Hamas as they wanted a counter weight to Fatah. OH Israel.

Of course, you expect poor ppl to have guided rockets for precision attacks? They are fighting back any way they can.

Walked away from the table? Israel has plenty of times, esp Netanyahu. Please pot calling kettle black there. There were plenty of times they could have gone back to the 67 borders with Fatah.

Who shepherds and corrals people into areas resembling concentration camps while using the walk to go around and take the good land and says its not a land grab. Who just takes nomads lands and bulldozes their villages out the of way with no compensation. Israel talks about living in peace but they certainly don't show it and are bloody antagonistic.

I don't think the Palestinians are without fault, but shipping over a bunch of European Jews and giving them Arab land because Europeans slaughtered them is a bit rich and then complaining about the Palestinians kicking up a fight when their land has been taken. Rich for the Israelites to be complaining when they got their independence through the bombing of civilian targets like King David Hotel.

http://www.mcloughlinpost.com/FreeGazaAug92010.html

Have a look out how much land the Palestinians have lost, then think this is only over a few generations at most. Then tell me you would take up arms or be tempted to if you Great Grandparent's land was taken, and then your Grandparent's, and now your Parent's land. Oh yeah I am sure you would all sit back and do nothing.

Re:Congratulations Israel (4, Insightful)

Nrrqshrr (1879148) | about 2 years ago | (#42047627)

This whole story is basically like a feud that started long ago, between two families. And generations later, the kids will fight among themselves without even knowing what the reason behind the fight was.

The obvious thing would be to get down to the table and talk about it, but guess what, those who are supposed to find a solution for this are none others than the guys who benefit the most from it (Hamas on one side, and the right wing Israelis).
Acting like a bully won't make you look like you'r defending yourself for sure. And no matter how much of a threat those Palestinian missiles are, if each time your countryside gets hit by one, you answer with a couple of air raids and a dozen of children in the "Collateral Damage" list, you sure as hell can't expect the Palestinians (and by extension the rest of the Muslim world) to see as anything else other than a tyrant invader.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047701)

Look at the possible future of a young male in Gaza. No way to improve his life, regerdless of how hard he works, smart and lucky he is. He's locked in a shithole and who locked it again? Following some lunatics and blow yourself up with some "enemies" starts to look like a sensible option.
  I'm in no way a Hamas supporter, but what again should they do? Wait and talk until something is improving (like never).
There's only one side in this conflict with the power to change something, and that's not the palestinians.

Re:Congratulations Israel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047705)

Until line 4 I was thinking you were talking about Israel. You almost had me there!

Re:Congratulations Israel (1)

PortHaven (242123) | about 2 years ago | (#42047061)

They have been gracious. They've repeated given up terroritory, repeatedly come to the table.

The truth is, you hear 3-4 Israeli's killed, and 10-12 Palestinians. But how many of those Palestinians get up and walk afterwards?

Google "Pallywood"
https://www.google.com/search?q=pallywood&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe= [google.com]

Israel is a Friend to the United States (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046941)

Kudos to the Israeli government for taking proactive measures to secure their infrastructure in the wake of the blood-thirsty terrorist organization threatening to eradicate the Israeli people for a largely made-up offense. The US government should use its strategic political relationship with Israel to learn how to do it themselves.

Re:Israel is a Friend to the United States (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047097)

Israel is a Friend to the United States

What exactly has Israel ever done for the United States? They've stolen military secrets and threatened to sell them to the Russians. They've involved us in conflicts across the world that provide us no benefit whatsoever. And their oppression of the Palestinians has spurned terrorists on to attack the US.

And what do we get for this? They now threaten to attack Iran and fuck with the international oil trade. They bomb Gaza relentlessly even after the US paid for their Iron Dome defense system that has largely made Israeli cities immune from rocket fire. And their Prime Minister felt that it was okay to interfere in our Presidential elections.

Sorry, Israel is no friend of the US.

Re:Israel is a Friend to the United States (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047131)

You are an ignorant troll armed with blatantly false rhetoric. Crawl back in your cave and await death.

Nothing like throwing down the gautlet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42046949)

Clearly this is bait to encourage better attacks.

*sigh*

Mossad wouldnt think twice about killing them (5, Insightful)

peter303 (12292) | about 2 years ago | (#42046967)

If it was necessary to keep the networks operating. These kids, like Assange, can be naive.

Re:Mossad wouldnt think twice about killing them (1)

newyorkdude (844311) | about 2 years ago | (#42047499)

Not sure if necessary. It's far better to just protect, and is also effective. Hackers come from everywhere. Martyrdom (of a hacker) is also a path to a revolution. Israel already has one jihad on its hands. Not sure if it needs another.

Re:Mossad wouldnt think twice about killing them (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047641)

Mossad hasn't been able to kill Ahmadenejad yet, nor were they able to rescue Gilad Shalit.

Heh (4, Funny)

Nexion (1064) | about 2 years ago | (#42046975)

The "cyber attacks" against Israel are about as impressive as Palestinian missile technology.

Re:Heh (3, Interesting)

twotacocombo (1529393) | about 2 years ago | (#42047107)

The "cyber attacks" against Israel are about as impressive as Palestinian missile technology.

Care to elaborate on this? I'm quite impressed by their homebrewed rockets. Far more effective than anything you or I could conjure up, for sure. They're extremely effective as a psychological weapon as well. Even if they never hit their target, they're still causing damage to the enemy.

Re:Heh (2)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#42047179)

They are not homebrewn but smuggled from Iran through Egypt.

Re:Heh (5, Informative)

twotacocombo (1529393) | about 2 years ago | (#42047223)

They are not homebrewn but smuggled from Iran through Egypt.

The Qassam series of rockets are certainly manufactured by the Palestinians. The longer range rockets are of Iranian, Chinese, and Russian origins.

Re:Heh (-1, Troll)

Nexion (1064) | about 2 years ago | (#42047351)

LOL, really living as neighbors to a people who wish to push you into the sea tends to leave one with thick skin. If I was there the only thing I would feel is sorry for the serious beat down the Palestinians begged to receive, yet again. As for their over sized bottle rockets with explosives attached, no I really can do better. The fact that you say you can’t makes me giggle a little.

Re:Heh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047353)

The "cyber attacks" against Israel are about as impressive as Palestinian missile technology.

Not their fault on cyberattacks...
Have you ever TRIED to type anything in Hebrew-mode on a standard keyboard?

Re:Heh (1)

siddesu (698447) | about 2 years ago | (#42047665)

Actually, this piece of news underlines nicely what i have been saying for ages. there is no "cyber warfare", it is mostly one big cost-cutting measure for the management of software/it companies and their larger customers, which dumps the protection of incompetence and irresponsibility onto the public finances.

Rule 34 on Israel? (1)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#42046997)

If there isn't a picture of Israel getting fucked on/by the Internet -- there soon will be.

Re:Rule 34 on Israel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047155)

Israel drafts women into its army along with men, so you only have to look [google.com] .

Reminds Me of... (2)

Epicaxia (2773451) | about 2 years ago | (#42047017)

Sort of like a 5th-grade bully pissing on a main battle tank. 'Success' might mean the tank got wet, but it's not like you're going to slow it down.

Re:Reminds Me of... (2)

c0lo (1497653) | about 2 years ago | (#42047667)

Sort of like a 5th-grade bully pissing on a main battle tank. 'Success' might mean the tank got wet, but it's not like you're going to slow it down.

Careful with the analogies, buddy.
Pissing on a full-speed marching tank and getting it wet would still qualify as an impressing feat in my view.

Lies (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047029)

Well, first of all, the guy's a liar. Besides his statistics being absurd beyond the pale, he has every incentive to hide the truth, as it feeds the well-oiled Israeli propaganda machine -- and we would do the same thing, as would any marginally-competent intelligence division.

More importantly, though, the simple fact is that Anon isn't what it used to be. Many of the power-hitters have moved on to bigger and better things -- things that pay real money. The few with talent that are still around are often loathe to engage state-funded entities in what has a high probability for inviting the kind of attention that even Anon doesn't want. That whole mess over there is a giant shitpile, and nobody with two neurons to rub together wants to touch it with a 29 1/2 foot pole.

That leaves the script kiddies, and since we've already determined that the intelligence department at play is at least marginally-competent, they aren't going to be wildly successful.

44 million attacks (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047041)

44 million attacks

A DDoS is a single attack.

What's an attack? (1)

batquux (323697) | about 2 years ago | (#42047059)

I'm sure every ping on a port scan counts as a failed attack here.

Re:What's an attack? (2)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#42047129)

Surely pings aren't the payload in a port scan (although they might be used in a precursor scan)? Ping is ICMP, whereas port scans (or indeed the very concept of ports) is TCP or UDP.

The solution to the gaza conflict! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047147)

(Posting anon for obvious reasons. This is a joke!)

Recently, my sister confided a fantastically silly plan for halting the missile strikes in and around the gaza strip.

Take a rickety ald crop duster, paint it in North Korean colors, and use it to drop crushed up pork rinds, and cheap beer all over the conflict area.

The beauty of the plan, is the incluson of poorly translated english language leaflets stating that the fearless leader, kim jong un, has heard of the suffering of the people in the region, and is delivering a humanitarian aid package, compliments of his newly formed "damnation army" program.

By mashing up the pork rinds, you make them light enough to get caught by desert winds, and whirled about like snow, ensuring that the combatants cannot avoid coming into conact with the product.

By making both combattants angry at the distant North Korea, you make the middle east into their and china's problem!

We decided that the porkrinds should be made from 100% vietnamese potbelly pigs, and the beer should be made from as much rice as possible. We gave some thought to what the packaging for the products should say, and decided on "NK krunchies", (with a caricature of kim Jong eating said pork rinds with a shit eating grin on his face), and "Leader's lager", in a super generic looking poptop can.

Re:The solution to the gaza conflict! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047273)

One more thing: the pilot of the plane should be a flaming homosexual.

Re:The solution to the gaza conflict! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047415)

Great news! YOU can pilot the plane!

Re:The solution to the gaza conflict! (1)

Aardpig (622459) | about 2 years ago | (#42047433)

No, that's OP's job.

Re:The solution to the gaza conflict! (1)

pkinetics (549289) | about 2 years ago | (#42047475)

So the Biebs it is!

with nearly all of them failing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047151)

LOL - the nature of the cyber attacks is that nearly all of them fail.

Since 'nearly' all of them failed, 'some' of them got through.

This is a PR failure Israel - we've woken up to your ethnic cleansing. You're the first to scream holocaust yet you're perpetrating one of your own on the Palestinian people.

You make me, and everyone else that has become aware of what you've been up to the past 60 odd years, disgusted at your lying and murderous ethnic cleansing ways.

Poorly Thought Out Response (4, Insightful)

TheSpoom (715771) | about 2 years ago | (#42047157)

Anons everywhere are now thinking to themselves, "challenge accepted."

Re:Poorly Thought Out Response (3, Funny)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#42047295)

Anons everywhere are now thinking to themselves, "challenge accepted."

According to TFA, they tried already -- they're strongly suspected to have to anyway. But you wouldn't know from TFS, where anonymous only appears in the title.

Else yeah, agreed. They might might as well draw a target on their IT infrastructure's forehead.

Re:Poorly Thought Out Response (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047317)

Anons everywhere are now thinking to themselves, "challenge accepted."

Um... no, they already failed the challenge. The operation failed. Israel's infrastructure remains standing and uninterrupted. Are you paying attention, or are you just selectively forgetting inconvenient facts that JUST HAPPENED?

Or are you trying to get us to believe zomg teh big bad CONSPRIRACYES shot down TEH TURTHS!??!??!? and Israel's servers are actually melted slag by this point?

Anonymous is now on Mossad's hit list (1)

ozduo (2043408) | about 2 years ago | (#42047177)

lot's of geek suicides to follow.

congrats (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42047205)

First the amazing Iron Dome with it's 90% success, now Israeli data infrastructures purportedly is all but impenetrable!
What's next? Six million Jews died in WW2?

Not that surprising (5, Interesting)

DaveAtFraud (460127) | about 2 years ago | (#42047241)

When your defenses are tested on a regular and ongoing basis, they become very good. It's not like the attacks from Anonymous were the first nor will they be the last. Kudos to the people who created and maintain these systems.

It would be interesting to know if the Iraelis are doing something the rest of the world doesn't know about (chances are they wouldn't tell us but who could blame them?) or are just rigorously implementing standard computer and network security measures.

Cheers,
Dave

Re:Not that surprising (1)

pkinetics (549289) | about 2 years ago | (#42047489)

Of course they are doing something everyone else isn't. They are sending the geeks version of Mossad after them!

Free Fucking Tibet... (1)

zugedneb (601299) | about 2 years ago | (#42047479)

I do not understand this... what is so holy about the jews?

Even the palestinians have the right to try drive away occupants from their land... What should they do? Curl up and Die?

We all cry Free Fucking Tibet, but why no Free Fucking Palstine?

The Russians Disagree... (0)

dryriver (1010635) | about 2 years ago | (#42047539)

According to Russia Today, Anon took down over 700 Israeli websites, and also dumped the (sensitive) personal details of almost 5,000 Israeli government employees on the internet: http://rt.com/news/anonymous-israel-officials-leaked-002/ [rt.com] --------- It seems to me that the Israelis are either a) lying to save face or b) lying because they are so used to lying about everything to begin with.

is it just me (0)

nimbius (983462) | about 2 years ago | (#42047565)

or does slashdot seem to be picking sides in this pissing contest? the rockets? all shot down by the worlds best missile defence system. the hackers? all shut out by the worlds best Information Systems collective.

Israels regime seems content to keep producing elegant tactical responses to what amounts to a sustained strategic threat. Is this really even about recognizing the "jewish state of israel" anymore?

Why is this surprising? (5, Insightful)

klingers48 (968406) | about 2 years ago | (#42047663)

This is Israel we're talking about folks... Of course they were going to be able to withstand these attacks. It's an offshoot of Israel's unparalleled second-strike capability mentality. It's all they have.

Can you think of any other country in the world that is so completely and utterly beset by constant regional threats and actually has the resources to do something about it? If there is any country that is going to build proactive and pragmatic redundancy into their national IT infrastructure to protect it from external threats (and do it right), it's Israel. They have a lot more to lose by doing it wrong.
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