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How bout using the country versus the continent (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095169)

South African...

Re:How bout using the country versus the continent (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096377)

because everyone except you is a racist pig!!11!

Amazon's getting a little bloated (0)

CRCulver (715279) | about a year ago | (#42095171)

Amazon.com [amazon.com] must have incredible infrastructure, as not only do they have an increasing amount of views, especially on Cyber Monday, but they are serving out more data than ever. The amount of Javascript on Amazon these days is insane: every listing has product image galleries, recommendation galleries, recently viewed galleries, etc. Sure, maybe they've calculated that all those dynamic features make for better sales, but as an individual using a netbook, I find it a frustrating experience to shop when browsing is so sluggish.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (4, Insightful)

rtaylor (70602) | about a year ago | (#42095283)

but as an individual using a netbook

You might not be the big spender they're targetting. They maximize for revenue, not for # of shoppers.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (3, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year ago | (#42095763)

They aren't snobs. They cater to a wide range of tastes and budgets. Your money is green enough for them even if you are running a netbook.

This likely explains their dominance.

It's Amazon, not Apple.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (2)

NatasRevol (731260) | about a year ago | (#42095829)

Oddly, they also seem to target their profit at 0%.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (2)

davester666 (731373) | about a year ago | (#42096979)

They make it up on volume.

I guess they are going for the home run, get every other retailer to go out of business, then jack up the prices.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096141)

Oh, you had to turn this into a class war. While most companies would love to sell just a few high priced items, most cannot do that and instead sell as much of anything that they can. If you can't tell by the huge selection, amazon is on the other end of the spectrum from those high priced vendors. They are volume movers.

You may not know it, but there are settings to filter results by stuff like discounted by 90%, 50%, etc. I just bought a car charger for my iPhone for 90 cents. You can sell 300000 of these things, or one lamborghini. Amazon would like to sell you both.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096827)

But they sell netbooks.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (2)

WillAdams (45638) | about a year ago | (#42095357)

Not only that, but there're little bits of Flash in various places for some reason or other.

The wish list interface is quite nice though, and I'm finding that a lot of what I'm managing (in private lists) is from other vendors using Amazon's Universal Wish List feature (which isn't making them any money).

Operates like sweets at the checkout. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096095)

Amazon won't do everything, and if you can keep people on your webpage you may be able to get them to buy on it too.

Re:Amazon's getting a little bloated (1)

ziggit (811520) | about a year ago | (#42095577)

Last time I checked, yeah, Amazon does have incredible infrastructure, I mean, when they go down, half the internet goes down. I can only imagine that they eat their own AWS dog food.

It's not surprising (3)

mandark1967 (630856) | about a year ago | (#42095219)

They generally have better prices or, if not "the" lowest prices, they have better shipping options. Combine that with the lack of Sales Tax collected in the state I live in and the argument can be fairly made that you'd be dumb to go anywhere else.

They've been great for me and have helped me save much over the last year or so just in shipping costs. Places like Newegg are adapting and "trying" to match Amazon but, at least in Newegg's case, they seem to be failing.

Re:It's not surprising (1)

Cinder6 (894572) | about a year ago | (#42095411)

Indeed. I saved $150 by buying my computer (parts) from Amazon instead of Newegg. Shipping + tax was the killer, even if Newegg had one or two components that were $3 less.

Re:It's not surprising (5, Informative)

blueg3 (192743) | about a year ago | (#42095517)

I've started buying components from Amazon instead of Newegg. For my state, almost every online retailer charges sales tax. As a Prime member, the shipping is of course way better.

The major difference for me, though, is that Amazon's return policy is so much better. I've gotten both a drive and memory from Newegg that arrived DOA. The return procedure is a bit of a pain, they don't cross-ship (last I knew), and you're charged for shipping. You also have to get a replacement, rather than a refund, or pay a 15% restocking fee. If an item from Amazon is DOA, they'll ship you a new one immediately (second-day, generally) and pay for shipping the old one back. Return or refund, no fee.

I just don't feel like paying someone to send me broken items, especially when better options are available.

Re:It's not surprising (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year ago | (#42095781)

I started buying drives from Amazon after I ordered a shipment from Newegg that didn't seem sufficiently robust in the packaging department.

Re:It's not surprising (3, Informative)

at_slashdot (674436) | about a year ago | (#42095797)

I'm doing the same thing, but the search on Amazon is atrocious.

Re:It's not surprising (5, Informative)

_UnderTow_ (86073) | about a year ago | (#42096133)

Yeah, the search and presentation of results is really horrible on Amazon. What I've been doing lately is using Newegg to find the exact mix of features that I want and then searching Amazon for that model number to get free shipping via Prime.

Re:It's not surprising (0)

kaatochacha (651922) | about a year ago | (#42097073)

And people wonder why businesses go under, when someone uses the resources of one to buy from another.
Except now it's online eating online, instead of online eating bricks and mortar.

Re:It's not surprising (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | about a year ago | (#42096293)

I've started buying components from Amazon instead of Newegg.

One thing about Newegg that is much better is the search. Newegg has a much better computer-item-specific directed search.

Also, if you just type something like "radeon hd 7950" then click on "desktop graphics cards", Newegg returns nothing but video cards that have that chip, while doing the same at Amazon and clicking "Computer Graphics Cards" results in many other cards, most of which show up first if you sort by ascending price.

Re:It's not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095597)

It just depends on exactly what you're buying. The last two things I bought from Newegg (RAM and display port cable) were cheaper there, and Newegg had free shipping. And when you're looking for computer components, Newegg's site is way easier to find what you're looking for. Amazon always gives so many crap results, like when you search for 204-pin SO-DIMMs and the results are mixed with 240-pin desktop SDRAM. I go to Newegg first to find what I'm looking for, and then price check with Amazon.

Re:It's not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096389)

Don't count Newegg out. Don't want all Amazon competiton shriveling up & withering away. I did get better deals from newegg on gaming keyboards & and memory recently, even after shipping & tax.

Re:It's not surprising (3)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#42096499)

On some things, you'd be fucking insane to go anywhere else. When I pass kids going into the bookstore at my university I almost want to slap their dumb asses sometimes. They pay 2-3 times what Amazon charges for books, and then bitch and moan about some $25 lab fee.

Online generation my ass.

I used Amazon for most of my shopping (4, Informative)

garcia (6573) | about a year ago | (#42095243)

I needed to get a few items this holiday season:

1. LEDTV
2. Digital camera and accessories
3. Kindle (original)
4. Clothes
5. Toys
6. Books
7. Misc

I got 6/7 items on Amazon. Why? A few reasons: I'm already an Amazon Prime member (as a student it was just stupid cheap and I like the streaming options for kids shows) and the very few times I've had a problem with what was shipped to me they have been nothing but spectacular in dealing with it; usually just immediately shipping out a new item without me having to send what I already received back before they'd send a new item.

I also personally believe the shopping experience is far superior to the other online options I looked through (NewEgg, Target and Walmart). Target's site was slow, cumbersome and confusing. Walmart was somewhat similar to Target but at least their site loaded and Amazon's prices were lower for the same or very similar product and next-day option at $3.99 or free at 2 day killed anything I saw elsewhere.

Overall Amazon has been a winner for me for years for bigger purchases and if they keep it up, they'll continue to get my business. While I don't consider myself a HUGE buyer at the holidays, aside from the clothing I bought for my wife where I needed a very specific item that wasn't available anywhere but where I purchased it from.

YMMV.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (5, Funny)

alphatel (1450715) | about a year ago | (#42095335)

Fine, but your best bet for Twinkies is still ebay.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (1)

invalid-access (1478529) | about a year ago | (#42095509)

Someone is selling used Twinkies?

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (4, Funny)

vlm (69642) | about a year ago | (#42095675)

Someone is selling used Twinkies?

Yeah, two girls. Order now and get one cup. There's a promotional internet video you could google for.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095445)

Often I use amazon over other sites even if it costs me a buck or three more just to avoid having yet another login to create, manage and remember. I can replace dozens of sites ranging from Sears to itunes to babys-r-us with them. Most the time.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (2)

flimflammer (956759) | about a year ago | (#42095735)

I only ever purchase from Newegg or Amazon anymore. While I have Amazon prime, many times Newegg has something cheaper, and oddly, I always seem to find the items that have free 2-3 day shipping baseline. Theirs and Amazons RMA process are both spot on in my opinion.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#42096541)

Not only is Amazon Prime a no-brainer, but they also have used items too. That's great for buying older stuff, when a little wear-and-tear isn't so important.

Re:I used Amazon for most of my shopping (1)

na1led (1030470) | about a year ago | (#42097273)

Amazon doesn't always provide free shipping, even with a prime account. I've purchased things that didn't qualify for free shipping because the item was provided by another vender, even though it's listed on Amazon. I say, if your going to list anything on Amazon, then you should eat the shipping, or Amazon should compensate prime users for shipping costs.

Original report slashdotted (1)

guruevi (827432) | about a year ago | (#42095249)

So if someone can find a mirror.

Amazon is huge because it has great customer service. I rather work with Amazon than even Wal-Mart (which has a very liberal return policy) or any of the big-box retailers and I rather go through Amazon than any other local retailer simply because their returns and shipping policies.

Re:Original report slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095321)

It wasn't that interesting anyway, just a couple bar graphs

Other retailers like Best Buy (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095267)

I thought Best Buy was Amazon's brick and mortar showroom?!?

Re:Other retailers like Best Buy (2)

vlm (69642) | about a year ago | (#42095755)

I thought Best Buy was Amazon's brick and mortar showroom?!?

I tried something like that and it doesn't work as a strategy anymore. They don't stock enough stuff anymore.

Long back story, but I recently needed an ethernet card. BB does not sell those anymore.

Also they only sell like 2 models of power supply, only about 3 models of bluetooth earpieces.

For some odd reason they have a whole aisle of dozens of external hard drive enclosures. They're identical except for styling.

They do have massive numbers of overpriced cables, but all you need on amazon is what are the connector ends and how far apart are they?

I don't even go there as a showroom anymore. Basically its a really tiny Target/Walmart without the clothes aisles. Office depot has a better selection of computer gear, which is crazy because I always think of them as "the binder store"

Re:Other retailers like Best Buy (2)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#42096605)

Long back story, but I recently needed an ethernet card. BB does not sell those anymore.

Went in there recently, and the entire place is basically one big TV/home theater showroom now. About the only other things they have are laptops, cellphones, and videogames. Music and appliances basically gone, DVD section shrunk down. Almost no computer components. Just TV's, laptops, cellphones, and videogames.

Re:Other retailers like Best Buy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42097245)

And why would they, if all you're doing is going in, looking at it, then buying off amazon.
I'm completely amazed at how everyone thinks things will continue to roll along with this as the normal.
Essentially, my rule is: If I use a service/store/place to primarily research a product, I buy it from them.
Look it up online on Amazon, buy from Amazon. Look it up at a store, buy it from the store.

It's fair and honest.

Fluff? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095269)

Why not post interesting stuff. Amazon excels at what it does. If you don't want to buy from them, there is a whole world out there from which you can choose. They seem to play well with small businesses from what I see from their search engine. I hate talking to folks from India when I have a problem, but it does get resolved for the most part. They always seem to issue refunds and returns with me. A 'good' company.

Yawn.

What? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095341)

I thought the riaa/mpaa assholes had told us that 90% of all internet traffic was piracy related...

This implys they lied.... thats unpossible!

screw "cyber monday" (2, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#42095375)

Cyber Monday is about as much of a scam as Black Friday, and furthermore, using the prefix "cyber" in this sense is annoying unless you are in a 1980s novel.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095429)

Cyber Monday, on the internet. Patent pending.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (4, Informative)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year ago | (#42095443)

Damn right! This year is 2x as bad as last year which was 2x as bad as the year before it. Here's ever single company's MO for black friday:
1. buy a ton of something straight from Asia that's way below your normal quality standards from brands nobody's heard of
2. put it on sale near cost but understock it so it runs out quickly
3. mark up things people actually want

Even newegg got into it. I put in a newegg order about 1 in 3 days during my shop's busy season so I know what things cost and they are outright lying about the discounts. Like I ordered two Vertex 4 128GB SSDs while they were on sale for $79. They claimed it was "50% off of an original price of $149." Bullshit! It's been $110 for months. Maybe $150 was launch price or MSRP or something but either way, they're lying to their customers. And even they got into 2012: The Year of the Crappy Sub-$100 Android Tablet.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095555)

You aren't kidding. Here's the refurb special of the day - only $99,999.00 [imgur.com].

Re:screw "cyber monday" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095773)

You're pretty funny, but the 9's should have been moved up a couple pixels higher.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (3, Insightful)

retchdog (1319261) | about a year ago | (#42095851)

yeah, and? it's the "original price," not the "usual price." the original price is always the list price; that's normal, and list prices have been inflated so that they can be "discounted" for about a century now. nothing new here.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (1)

Jonathan A (1584455) | about a year ago | (#42095595)

Cyber Monday is about as much of a scam as Black Friday, and furthermore, using the prefix "cyber" in this sense is annoying unless you are in a 1980s novel.

I remember the first web based store I ever saw. It was called Cyberian Outpost [wikipedia.org]. At the time it was a clever play on words. But now, it seems so overused.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (3, Insightful)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about a year ago | (#42095715)

My love of steam has, if possible, increased because of this. They didn't call it cyber monday, they just had an autumn sale. And their sales are always real sales.

Re:screw "cyber monday" (1)

na1led (1030470) | about a year ago | (#42097127)

Yea, I haven't found any deals worthwhile this year. The TV I purchased last December is still cheaper than the best deals out so far. And what's up with Black Friday lasting a whole damn month. I've seen Black Month, Black Week, Black Weekend, After Black Friday, on and on. Your best sales is usually end of year, and clearance items.

That is incorrect (1, Informative)

slashmydots (2189826) | about a year ago | (#42095403)

They made a severe mistake in that summary. The actual, 2012 rankings of highest gross sales are:
Amazon
Newegg
Ebay

Re:That is incorrect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095495)

[citation needed]

Re:That is incorrect (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095831)

They made a severe mistake in that summary. The actual, 2012 rankings of highest gross sales are:

Amazon

Newegg

Ebay

And what exactly makes you correct over them? Because you read some other survey that said something else? Which one is wrong exactly? Oh thats right, you dont know and more importantly why does it matter?

Not accurate report (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095449)

The report claims that the cyber Monday sale is the largest ever. This is incorrect for online sales. Although this year's cyber Monday is expected to bring in 1.5 Billion in sales, this is far less than the 3.1 Billion record established on 11/11 this year by Taobao, the largest online retailer in China. Amazon is clearly lagging even far behind Taobao in terms of sales.

Re:Not accurate report (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096857)

I agree that this report is somewhat inaccurate, but I believe it's merely a scope issue (probably just within the states). With China's population and economic growth it's hard to compare them and us.

amazon's immense size (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095491)

is the direct result of their exploitation of greedy customers who ignore their home state's sales and use tax laws.

of course, NOW that amazon is so fucking big, they're starting to cave-in on the sales tax collection issue.... what about the millions and millions in uncollected taxes revenues from past sales that has contributed to budget messes for many states?

thank you, amazon customers, for helping to fuck-up the economy through your refusal to pay the sales and use tax on your so-called 'tax free' online purchases.

if the items purchased would be taxable if purchased locally, YOU OWE USE TAX TO YOUR STATE even if sales tax was not collected at time of purchase -- so pay 'em already you fucking tax deadbeats.

Re:amazon's immense size (4, Insightful)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | about a year ago | (#42095761)

YOU OWE USE TAX TO YOUR STATE even if sales tax was not collected at time of purchase -- so pay 'em already you fucking tax deadbeats.
Why, b/c so govt. asshole decided to put his hand in my pocket? If I purchased an item that may have been subject to a tax(and let's get real there's plenty of tax holiday shenanigans an individual could run afoul of), why does the locality get any extra tax? The fuel that powered the truck that made the delivery was taxed, the income used to pay for the item was taxed(Assuming not living in NH, Florida etc). The land on which I will use the item was taxed, so why does the govt get another slice of the pie? Nevermind, the silliness of paying a use tax on a digital download. that has contributed to budget messes for many states?
Sorry, you were looking for unsustainable pension funds and failure to recognize the conflict of interest inherent in collective bargaining of public sector unions. Just ask that rabid union buster FDR. "All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service."

Re:amazon's immense size (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096205)

You pay sales taxes so that we can pass the tax burden to the middle class. Now pay up!

Re:amazon's immense size (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095771)

lol

Re:amazon's immense size (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about a year ago | (#42095855)

> is the direct result of their exploitation of greedy customers who ignore their home state's sales and use tax laws.

Nope. It's lame local stores. They can't compete even if price is completely taken out of the equation. This is the real disadvantage that any store with a finite location suffers from.

It's harder to have EVERYTHING.

ANY e-commerce site can cater to the entire planet while being in a single physical location. The same used to be true of Sears. Amazon is just a very successful successor to Sears.

They will even refer you to 3rd parties when you want something even they don't have.

Plus Amazon is still cheaper (even with sales tax) on those things for which a direct comparison can even be made.

Re:amazon's immense size (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096207)

I live in a state without sales tax you cum slurping jizz mop. It doesn't have a budget mess, either. If you look at states with a budget mess, there's a common theme and it doesn't involve sales tax!

Ebay Bytes (3, Interesting)

sdinfoserv (1793266) | about a year ago | (#42095545)

As a "former" ebay power seller I can say Ebay Sucks! It's overridden with drop shipped crap that can be found for 30% less on pricewatch, they nickle and dime sellers to death, and there zero chance of calling to get a live body for customer support. Just look at the difference in CEO behavior - Ebay CEO's make millions in pay, Bezos salary is (c) $80K. When I quite selling on ebay, I quite buying there too. If there's anything I need to sell around the house, craigslist does for me.

Re:Ebay Bytes (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year ago | (#42096331)

You're about 1.6 million short on Bezo's pay. And ebay had 5 times the profit in 2011. Even more this year since Amazon's last two quarters sucked as bad as, well, ebay.

Re:Ebay Bytes (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096845)

What was the main reason you finally gave up on eBay? If you were a power seller, you received the visibility, presence, and reach that comes with eBay. Were your profit margins miniscule and terrible? I sold a few things on eBay, mainly used computers, routers & switches and such. It was not a bad experience, even after they removed buyer's ratings. I'm asking because I was going to see if I could build great gaming PCs and sell them on eBay for a worthwhile profit margin, as long as its increasing my Paypal balance, it'll be worth it to me. You make it sound like that's not possible with eBay anymore. You might be right. I'd like to hear your opinion.

Why Amazon? (1)

rossdee (243626) | about a year ago | (#42095579)

Because the other big online retailers (Best Buy, Target, Walmart ) have a physical presence in every state, so they charge sales tax.
Amazon only has physical presence in CA and IN and maybe KY so most customers don't havr yo pay sales tax.
And thats the main reason people shop online instead of locally.

Re:Why Amazon? (3, Informative)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#42095611)

Amazon actually now charges sales tax in the following states: California, Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Washington. That's about 1/3 of the U.S. population there.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

jpstanle (1604059) | about a year ago | (#42095685)

Being able to avoid sales tax in many cases is certainly beneficial to online retailers, but anybody who believes that sales tax is the primary force moving retail transactions online simply has not been paying attention. If all 50 states suddenly started collecting sales tax on Amazon sales today, Amazon would take a hit, but they would not suddenly collapse.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

Dan667 (564390) | about a year ago | (#42095759)

brick and mortar companies are trying to force online companies to pay sales tax in the believe people will return to their stores. Well, that is not going to happen and if there is an alternative online that does not charge sales tax that is something I consider as well when making a purchase.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about a year ago | (#42096057)

Being able to avoid sales tax in many cases is certainly beneficial to online retailers, but anybody who believes that sales tax is the primary force moving retail transactions online simply has not been paying attention. If all 50 states suddenly started collecting sales tax on Amazon sales today, Amazon would take a hit, but they would not suddenly collapse.

brick and mortar companies are trying to force online companies to pay sales tax in the believe people will return to their stores. Well, that is not going to happen and if there is an alternative online that does not charge sales tax that is something I consider as well when making a purchase.

Well, today it won't, but it can certain stem the growth of online shopping.

Take Canada, for example. Online shopping hasn't grown as fast, nor is it as prevalent as in the US. In fact, many B&M retailers often have more stuff in the retail stores because increasingly larger numbers of people still visit the store.

It doesn't help that "free shipping" didn't come until recently, so the fact you had to pay tax AND shipping meant that the prices were often equivalent to retail, so you might as well just buy it locally and get the benefit of immediate satisfaction and cheaper returns.

Hell, even Amazon.ca isn't that great - the discounts are awful and you can find stuff cheaper at a B&M than Amazon. Quite commonly, too.

Hell, the retailers are the ones trying ot push online shopping.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a year ago | (#42095717)

That advantage is going away and Amazon knows it. There have been several Slashdot articles on the topic. States want a cut of that business. To compensate, I understand that Amazon will be adding warehouses around every metropolitan area in the country so that they can implement same day shipping. They will have to start charging sales tax but they will be able to compete with the instant gratification advantage that B&M stores have.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095919)

Three words: Sold Out Online. That's what it said on bestbuy.com for every good deal that I saw on Amazon. With Amazon, I know that I'll actually be able to buy things at the prices they advertise.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

rlwhite (219604) | about a year ago | (#42095925)

...because having more selection than any physical store could possibly carry couldn't be the main reason. Nor could economies of scale that physical specialty stores can't reach in most areas. No, people are so cheap that they have to scrimp on 5-10% and wait days for the product.

I just bought a mid-range camcorder through Amazon this weekend. I looked at physical stores, and no major chain carried anything more than the cheapest low end products.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

_UnderTow_ (86073) | about a year ago | (#42096193)

I live in a state (Washington) that requires Amazon to charge me sales tax, and I still shop there. The main reason is free 2-day shipping (Prime only). I couldn't care less about sales tax when I can order something and have on my porch the next day for $3.99 or the day after for free.

Re:Why Amazon? (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | about a year ago | (#42096491)

And thats the main reason people shop online instead of locally.

When everyday prices at Amazon are 20-50% off compared to B&M regular prices, saving the 5-10% sales tax is just an extra bonus.

Add in the fact that you can get a wide variety of used items in very good condition, and that you can buy shoes, video games, gardening tools, and food all without leaving your chair, and that is the main reason people shop online instead of locally. I purchased 20 Blu-Ray movies this past week for a grand total of $130 (including shipping), all without leaving my house, so I didn't have to fight any crowds. Some of what I bought was Amazon price matching B&M stores, and I'm sure Amazon had a lot more than 3 copies in stock at that price, but the 4 films from the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" that I got for $28.90 when Best Buy wanted to charge $89 certainly weren't a price match.

If You Didn't... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095585)

Then you did it wrong!

Amazon is not without fault (1)

dehole (1577363) | about a year ago | (#42095649)

I think Amazon's search and sorting functionality is intentionally crippled. Try sorting by price and you will see a range of products at a range of prices. Is it sorted by new price, used price, price + shipping? Who knows.

Often I have to go to another online store to find the product I want, to then see if it is on amazon. When it comes to books, I usually find the books cheaper on EBay than Amazon (and without tax :) ). The free shipping is a gimmick to get people to accept their higher prices.

Re:Amazon is not without fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096999)

Yes I have to agree. Amazon has cheap stuff, but they generally aren't the cheapest. If you make some more effort, you'll generally find them cheaper on ebay or other sites.

Re:Amazon is not without fault (1)

Quirkz (1206400) | about a year ago | (#42097243)

Used price, I think. I tried a filter that was supposed to show me DVD's for under $3, thinking I'd get a lot of nice Monday specials. All the results were coming up in the $6 - $8 range. It took a while to catch on that they were sorted low because of the $0.01 used DVDs. Which of course come with $2.99 shipping, making them much less of a deal, and probably not acceptable holiday presents.

Amazon vs Ebay (5, Insightful)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | about a year ago | (#42095663)

I love the comparison of Amazon to Ebay's sales. The biggest complaint I regularly see about amazon is when they ship some tiny object in a giant box. (Which is can also be interpreted as Amazon trying really hard to make sure things aren't broken) whereas I read at least one complaint about ebay and or Paypal every day. Ebay has managed to anger the sellers by being totally one sided in disputes while at the same time they do little to clean up the listings to make ebay easy to use. If I want a part for an iPhone (say a new glass screen) I have to scroll through page after page of the same crap like cases and screen protectors. I want a raspberry pi yet it is just page after page of cases. They have no easy mechanism to clear out the crap. Basically all those cases are spam. I suspect that for any search that results in 1000 results that people are buying 4 or 5 of those results over and over and that they other 996 are just making people angry.

The only thing that ebay has improved as far as I am concerned was when they allowed you to sort by lowest price plus shipping. This then eliminated those people who were selling the $20 item for $1 plus $19 shipping.

Amazon has stumbled on a super secret business formula: treat the customer the way you would want to be treated. At least it seems to be secret as few other businesses appear to know about it especially ebay.

Re:Amazon vs Ebay (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096379)

The outrageous shipping scam was sellers trying to reduce their ebay fees, nothing to do with looking for the cheapest items. ebay now take fees from your shipping costs too, even when you use their USPS preprinted shipping forms using their own figures.

Re:Amazon vs Ebay (1)

crazyjj (2598719) | about a year ago | (#42096679)

Who the hell BUYS on ebay?!? Ebay is the place to SELL. They have a seemingly never-ending supply of crazy suckers willing to over-bid for items. Just look at how much people are paying for Wii U's over there right now.

stopped buying from amazon for sales tax (1)

Dan667 (564390) | about a year ago | (#42095733)

why would I continue to buy from amazon and pay sales tax and some times shipping when I can buy else where and pay no sales tax? They should have fought harder to stop that.

Re:stopped buying from amazon for sales tax (3, Informative)

Radak (126696) | about a year ago | (#42095909)

Enjoy it while you can. Federal sales tax is probably coming in the next year or two and every online retailer will be collecting it.

For a long time, Amazon was against a federal sales tax, for obvious reasons. But now they've done an about face, again for obvious reasons. They know it's coming, so it's now to their benefit to get it as soon as possible, since they're already forced to collect sales tax in some states. They've lost that small advantage in a few states, and they want to make sure everyone else loses it, too. Got to admit it's sound business sense on their part.

Re:stopped buying from amazon for sales tax (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42096313)

Why should I hire a US-based talent and pay all those payroll taxes, when I can buy overseas and avoid them?

Ebay that high? I don't trust ebay (1)

Shivetya (243324) | about a year ago | (#42095741)

I do not trust EBAY as far as I can throw Paypal.

I cannot imagine buying anything over impulse purchase prices on ebay.

Not surprising. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42095945)

Why the hell you would put up with driving someplace, wasting gas, wasting, to go to a store and put up with terrible customer service from kids who try and shove stuff down your throat, then to stand in line and over pay for the exact same thing you can order from amazon from the comfort of your own home and have delivered the majority of the time for free to your door. Granted sometimes you need a new router right now because yours took a crap and so on and amazon cant do that but for the most part I buy everything from amazon.

Bestbuy, sears, jc penny, kmart and gamestop in paticullar I cant see how they stay in business. I can buy just about everything they sell from amazon at the very least for the exact same price, but more often than not for much less and I dont have to go anywhere or be annoyed with crap customer service.

Amazon is used ... (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | about a year ago | (#42095975)

... to lookup product information and prices. Usually when searching for any given product amazon will have reviews/info on said product.

Re:Amazon is used ... (1)

wiedzmin (1269816) | about a year ago | (#42096251)

That is definitely what I use it for, since they don't ship to Canada so I have to find other places to buy the products that have good reviews/photos/details on Amazon.

Re:Amazon is used ... (1)

Mad Leper (670146) | about a year ago | (#42096575)

Amazon does ship to Canada, in fact Amazon.ca specifically caters to Canadian shoppers.

Perhaps what you meant to say was that there were items you were interested in on Amazon.com and they could not be shipped to Canada.

Re:Amazon is used ... (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | about a year ago | (#42096943)

They do but they tend to be more expensive and/or amazon.ca doesn't have as wide range of selection as the US site. I had to order books that I couldn't get elsewhere from the US in the early days and the tariffs/border tax was insane.

Not in Canada (5, Informative)

wiedzmin (1269816) | about a year ago | (#42096233)

They could do even better if 9 out of 10 products they sell didn't spit out "We are unable to ship to your address" for Canadian buyers. I am all but given up shopping on Amazon for that reason... they can't even provide a way to filter out items they can't ship to you!

Re:Not in Canada (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42097137)

Are you using amazon.com or amazon.ca?

Consider the Economics of Online Shopping (1)

sandysnowbeard (1297619) | about a year ago | (#42096451)

To their folly, hitherto many states have let Amazon and other online sites sell things tax free. While making a consumer's dollar go farther, it sucked tax money away from said states (although perhaps those states got kick-backs from Amazon) and cannibalized competing local businesses. (Granted, local business might include not-locally-based chains or franchises like Best Buy, but that's its own problem. Regardless, local business = local jobs.) Then you've got the issue of strip-mall USA where a person has to use a couple of gallons worth of gas to get to a store in the first place, which is another thing in Amazon's favor. All that said, I live in Seattle (Amazon's home), in the areas where you can walk everywhere and don't need a car. Things are dense, and there are lots of cool local stores, including a book store I like (Elliott Bay Books, which conveniently sells Google Play Books online and also has its own, independent cafe) and a couple of record stores. I would rather pay more for goods from these stores because they give Seattle the feel of a neighborhood (or a collection of neighborhoods, as it were). I can accept that bookstores and record stores are on their way out (as are the physical mediums of books and CDs), but I'm uncomfortable with the concentrating of SOOOOOOO much business through one supplier's gateway. Thus, it's always a bit weird to hear of people BUYING BUYING BUYING. Chill out, consume less, and think about where your dollar is going, rather than just trying to amass shit for you and yours. At least this is the mantra I tell myself.
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