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Valve Officially Launches TV-Friendly Steam Big Picture Mode

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the as-seen-on-tv dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Valve on Monday announced the public release of Big Picture, Steam's new mode that lets gamers access their games on a TV, in over 20 languages. Big Picture lets you use a traditional gamepad (as well as a keyboard and mouse) to access the complete Steam store and Steam Community from the comfort of the couch in your living room."

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About .. eh.... time? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42173813)

Surely I'm missing something. Since I can play my steam games in 1080 over HDMI to my TV already this "new" feature intrigues me. Is this merely a front end with fonts and proportions better suited to a TV? No sorry I did RTFA as I sense it's merely a press release and not actually something news worthy. Please Internet, correct me if I am mistaken.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42173843)

it is exactly that.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

Soilworker (795251) | about 2 years ago | (#42175023)

Can't wait to destroy some idiot trying to play CS with a pad.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

Larryish (1215510) | about 2 years ago | (#42176151)

YAY! Now our big fat asses can get even BIGGER!

Re:About .. eh.... time? (2, Funny)

vlm (69642) | about 2 years ago | (#42173867)

Did someone ask the internet for corrections? Here I am!

I read about it on the steam website. On the output side it has a "web browser for TVs" which is hardly a new idea and they never work. Just pump Chrome over that baby and it'll be fine.

The big deal on the steam website itself seems to be the input side... using a gamepad instead of a mouse and keyboard. Text entry via game pad sounds hideous.

Sincerely, "The Internet"

Re:About .. eh.... time? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174007)

Text entry via game pad sounds hideous

It is.

Co-Signed the XBox and PS3

Re:About .. eh.... time? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174089)

Text entry via game pad sounds hideous

It is.

Co-Signed the XBox and PS3

Yeah but those are for ppl too stupid to game on the PC so who cares? Fuck 'em.

Stupid means you can't always have nice things and the nice things you do have are not because of you but because ppl a lot smarter than you made them for you. The masses of humanity are a drag to the minority who actually create and invent and produce. Useless eaters as the conspiracy types call them. Consumers is the veiled form.

Single-screen multiplayer (5, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174321)

[Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3] are for ppl too stupid to game on the PC so who cares?

Online play with strangers isn't enough for everyoen. Sometimes you want a game that supports single-screen multiplayer in case you have kids or in case your real-life friends are visiting your home but didn't happen to bring gaming laptops for a LAN party. Those are historically much more common on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 than on PC, despite that HDTVs can display PC video and PCs can use Xbox 360 controllers. Part of the goal of Big Picture is to encourage these kinds of games to be developed for PC, which would encourage people to buy a second living room PC that can play games from the Steam store (where Valve gets a cut) instead of a console that can play games from the console maker's store.

Re:Single-screen multiplayer (1)

NouberNou (1105915) | about 2 years ago | (#42174363)

Yea but how often is that even possible these days with modern console games...? Almost all of them require internet multiplayer, except for some pretty specific party games.

Two fishermen, one cod (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174397)

Almost all of them require internet multiplayer

True, online multiplayer is more convenient for people who prefer to game in pick-up groups with strangers, and some publishers have been known to move multiplayer online to sell more copies to each household [cracked.com] . But Call of Duty series still allows two players per Xbox 360 console.

except for some pretty specific party games.

I think the point is to encourage PC ports of these party games. Right now, for example, fighting games that aren't Street Fighter 4 tend not to get ported to the PC. Where's the PC counterpart to platform fighters like Power Stone, Super Smash Bros., or PlayStation All-Stars?

Re:Two fishermen, one cod (1)

damnbunni (1215350) | about 2 years ago | (#42174635)

Aw, man, you had to go and remind me of Power Stone. I loved those games on the Dreamcast.

It's been almost 13 years since the last new Power Stone game. No, 'Card Fighters DS' doesn't count. C'mon, Capcom!

Re:Two fishermen, one cod (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175449)

I think the point is to encourage PC ports of these party games. Right now, for example, fighting games that aren't Street Fighter 4 tend not to get ported to the PC. Where's the PC counterpart to platform fighters like Power Stone, Super Smash Bros., or PlayStation All-Stars?

There's not enough demand for such a thing, if there were there'd be no reason not to make one.

Re:Single-screen multiplayer (1)

damnbunni (1215350) | about 2 years ago | (#42174569)

Out of the 59 'current gen' console games I have here, only eight have online-only multiplayer.

The rest either have local and online, local only, or are single-player games.

(I didn't count single-player games that just have minor online services like a leaderboard to be multi-player. After all, you can't actually play them WITH anyone.)

The only 'party games' I have are the Wii and WiiU pack-ins.

Re:Single-screen multiplayer (1)

Xest (935314) | about 2 years ago | (#42177497)

Not really true, most console games still have local multiplayer.

I think all party games do too rather than "pretty specific" ones, that's kind of the point of party games - they're for parties. I think just about all Kinect titles for example do, maybe only one or two that don't.

Re:Single-screen multiplayer (1)

Vreejack (68778) | about 2 years ago | (#42176023)

It is true that you can use an X-box gamepad on your PC, but unfortunately most games I have seen translate proportional motion commands into WASD keys, which is insane, especially considering the same game on the Xbox-360 interprets joysticks properly. Using a pair of proportional joysticks for motion and direction are the only advantage of gamepads over keyboard/mouse, so I am confounded by the inability to use them properly.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174283)

have you tried smartglass for the xbox? i have it on my nexus 7, you can control the menu and type using the keyboard on the tablet.

damn i sound like a shill, maybe i should check my mailbox for a check when i get home. Im sure the app isnt perfect but it beats the heck out of the gamepad text entry.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (2)

damnbunni (1215350) | about 2 years ago | (#42174443)

Or you can just plug a freakin' keyboard into the Xbox 360. Or PS3. They both support them.

I used to leave one hooked up when playing one particular game that has you name each custom car you create. Heck of a lot easier that way.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175629)

it's sad that legitimate pro-Microsoft posts have to be AC and include a 'shill' presumption.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174149)

They actually have a fairly good text entry method for gamepads called a flower. You point your analog stick in the direction of a leaf and press one of 4 gamepad buttons to select your character. This let's you quickly get to any character without scrolling.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174259)

They actually have a fairly good text entry method for gamepads called a flower. You point your analog stick in the direction of a leaf and press one of 4 gamepad buttons to select your character. This let's you quickly get to any character without scrolling.

Great. So how do you perform the typing to name that character in the first place? Or lots of other reasons not covered by this flower system? Oh, right, you need to use some kind of text entry. Duhhhh....

Next time would you take just a second to think about the obvious before posting?

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174313)

Are you really a complete moron or do you just play one on the internet? He's describing a text entry method. You know, with characters like A, B, C and so forth.

What the flower looks like (2)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174447)

Great. So how do you perform the typing to name that character in the first place?

Using the flower. It shows eight groups of four letters and other punctuation. To enter each letter, you hold one of the eight directions and press a button. To see an example, look at this [examiner.com] . I'd add a diagram directly in this post, but Slashdot has a "lameness filter" against ASCII art.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

Hobadee (787558) | about 2 years ago | (#42174399)

Mod parent up. The "flower" input method is great! I haven't used it on Steam, but I used it ages ago in a web browser on my XBox 1. It's easy and intuitive to learn and once you get good you can type fairly fast.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174291)

Interfaces designed for the controller seldom has text entry at all.
Even if you find yourself in need of text entry I'm sure you'll find that your keyboard works fine.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (5, Informative)

Pathogen David (2036758) | about 2 years ago | (#42173977)

It is basically a 10 foot UI for Steam that is Xbox controller friendly. It's been in beta for a while, you can activate it by clicking the shiny button at the top of your Steam window [minus.com] . (If you have a custom Steam theme, you may have to disable it to see the button. If you don't have access to Steam right now and just want to know what it looks like here are screenshots of the start menu [minus.com] and the games library [minus.com]

Re:About .. eh.... time? (3, Funny)

sortius_nod (1080919) | about 2 years ago | (#42174243)

Heaven forbid a company designing a UI that you might find useful, or, SHOCK HORROR, make your life easier. I mean, who wants things to be easier? In fact, Valve should force TV users to load all games via an 8pt comic sans font console that has pink writing on a white background, & ensure that the only input device allowed is a hacked Wii-mote.

The amount of bullshit wank you faux-geeks go on with is ridiculous. Any positive change to a device/piece of software & it's all "I could do that x years ago by gluing a piece of string to a tin can".

Re:About .. eh.... time? (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | about 2 years ago | (#42174331)

It's a controller friendly ui for steam presented in a tv friendly format.

The chat ui is especially creative. It's a flower.

Re:About .. eh.... time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174503)

It's not just fonts and proportions; the entire interface can be controlled via an Xbox360 controller.

What prevented doing this? (0)

Animats (122034) | about 2 years ago | (#42173909)

"If you're a Steam user, you can set up Big Picture by simply by connecting your PC or Mac to your TV via a single HDMI cable."

So what kept you from doing that last month, or last year?

Re:What prevented doing this? (4, Informative)

decipher_saint (72686) | about 2 years ago | (#42173937)

Nothing at all, except now you can do it with a gamepad-friendly interface.

Re:What prevented doing this? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174141)

Nothing at all, except now you can do it with a gamepad-friendly interface.

What? you can plug a xbox360 controller in a pc's usb port. that is old news. gamepad-friendly sounds like code for now the clueless can do it. i see how that is good for valve because morons spend money too but let us call things what they are hmm?

Actually use the controller (2)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174341)

What? you can plug a xbox360 controller in a pc's usb port. that is old news.

I'm guessing the news is that 1. the launcher will actually use the Xbox 360 Controller that you plugged in, and 2. the fonts are bigger so you can sit farther back, such as on the couch.

Re:Actually use the controller (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174955)

Amazing, it's like Front Row but for games!
Why has this taken so long?

Re:What prevented doing this? (1)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 2 years ago | (#42174347)

And how, exactly, do you navigate a PC interface with menus and text entry using a gamepad? I mean, I suppose you could map one of the sticks to virtual mouse, but that type of system sucks (I've done it before), and is a tad bit more work than most people are willing to put forward. The interface is the key: being able to navigate through menus and text entry (yes, Valve has apparently devised a text entry scheme that doesn't totally suck) using the controller.

Re:What prevented doing this? (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 2 years ago | (#42175167)

They already have a symbol system denoting if a game has partial or full gamepad support. L4D2 has full game support for its entire interface, TF2 has partial.

Re:What prevented doing this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174697)

Nothing at all, except now you can do it with a gamepad-friendly interface.

What? you can plug a xbox360 controller in a pc's usb port. that is old news. gamepad-friendly sounds like code for now the clueless can do it. i see how that is good for valve because morons spend money too but let us call things what they are hmm?

So are you ten years old, or are you yourself a moron? I shouldn't leave out the possibility of both...

Re:What prevented doing this? (2, Informative)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | about 2 years ago | (#42173941)

"If you're a Steam user, you can set up Big Picture by simply by connecting your PC or Mac to your TV via a single HDMI cable."

So what kept you from doing that last month, or last year?

Big Picture didn't exist last year, and last month you could do it but it was still in beta.

Re:What prevented doing this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174001)

I poked at it some, It is mostly just a new UI that makes it more user friendly if you are just using a controller. I don't see anything wrong with it but I probably won't use it because I rarely play games with a controller. Feels a lot like a beta for how the steam box is going to act. That is why this is cool, not because it magically enables you to connect to a TV.

Re:What prevented doing this? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 2 years ago | (#42174037)

Feels a lot like a beta for how the steam box is going to act. That is why this is cool, not because it magically enables you to connect to a TV.

Exactly my thoughts when trying the beta out myself.

If I didn't already have a pretty beastly HTPC setup, I might just be tempted to build a custom 'Steam Console' just for shits n' giggles.

Re:What prevented doing this? (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | about 2 years ago | (#42174051)

So it can still be used with a keyboard and mouse if you choose to use the new GUI? Choice is good, and those console folks might like it, but I'll stick with PC style controls. - HEX

Re:What prevented doing this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174195)

There are other adaptations to the format. For instance, the fonts and icons are generally larger, which makes sense because most people sit much further back from their TV than they do from their monitor, even accounting for the larger display size.

Re:What prevented doing this? (1)

Rennt (582550) | about 2 years ago | (#42176335)

Existential issues.

More bloat (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 2 years ago | (#42174079)

Great, new features added to Steam. But their OS X client is still the slowest and most bloated software I've ever used.

Re:More bloat (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174167)

Maybe you should try updating your hardware to match the requirements of the software. Oh wait, you cant.

Re:More bloat (1)

zippthorne (748122) | about 2 years ago | (#42174275)

Why does the new GUI require more hardware resources than many of the games..?

Re:More bloat (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 2 years ago | (#42174441)

Simple answer? The games are being made for 7 year old or greater hardware(consoles). Hey, remember...consoles are hot shit. That's why developers are abandoning them for the PC, and in turn 'nix.

Re:More bloat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175581)

So it needs more than a 3.4ghz quad core i7 Ivy Bridge with 16 GB of RAM? Why exactly?

Re:More bloat (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174357)

Steam for Mac has a memory leak relating to the way it handles windows (insert joke here). Instead of closing windows it just hides them. This can cause memory to skyrocket.

Re:More bloat (1)

tibman (623933) | about 2 years ago | (#42174813)

Skyrocket to the exact same size as having the windows open, lol.

Re:More bloat (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 2 years ago | (#42175967)

But their OS X client is still the slowest and most bloated software I've ever used.

How is it 'bloated'?

Re:More bloat (2)

OhPlz (168413) | about 2 years ago | (#42176017)

So it's kind of like running iTunes on Windows?

Re:More bloat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42177467)

Now you know how Windows users felt when they had to suffer the Windows version of iTunes.

Valve has a winner (4, Informative)

Suiggy (1544213) | about 2 years ago | (#42174107)

I've been using this mode in the Linux beta of Steam. It's pretty nice, it's up there with the XBox 360 and PS3 media interfaces.

Re:Valve has a winner (5, Funny)

BradleyUffner (103496) | about 2 years ago | (#42174153)

...it's up there with the XBox 360...

It's jam-packed full of advertising, leaving 1/10th of the screen for actual content?

Re:Valve has a winner (2)

Suiggy (1544213) | about 2 years ago | (#42174237)

Minus the advertising. I was referring more to the aesthetics and design choices.

Re:Valve has a winner (3, Funny)

Qzukk (229616) | about 2 years ago | (#42174297)

It's jam-packed full of advertising, leaving 1/10th of the screen for actual content?

I opened up Steam and got that before I even hit the big picture button!

Re:Valve has a winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174583)

Then you are a moron. You can turn off the pop-up advertising window you get sometimes in the Steam settings by unchecking the "notify me about additions or changes to my games, new release, and upcoming releases" box. And you can have steam start at your library page so you never have to see that steam even sells a product unless you try to,

Re:Valve has a winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175497)

That doesn't make him a moron by any measure.

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

skine (1524819) | about 2 years ago | (#42175577)

You do realize that Steam is little more than an advertising platform for games, right?

Hell, I count 60 advertisements when I visit the steam store, between the games, Valve Store, Steam Mobile, Gifting on Steam, and, of course, Big Picture.

Re:Valve has a winner (2)

BradleyUffner (103496) | about 2 years ago | (#42176189)

You do realize that Steam is little more than an advertising platform for games, right?

Hell, I count 60 advertisements when I visit the steam store, between the games, Valve Store, Steam Mobile, Gifting on Steam, and, of course, Big Picture.

Hmm.. I shut down Steam and then opened it up fresh. This is the first screen that came up http://i.imgur.com/wviMA.jpg [imgur.com]
Not a single advertisement to be seen.

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

hotcut (1289754) | about 2 years ago | (#42176981)

I guess that's how you choose to look at it... I would say all the "Recent News" is nothing but advertisements. Granted, they wrap it up nicely, but they have a summer sale and tell you about it, which to me looks like ads.

Re:Valve has a winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176013)

...it's up there with the XBox 360...

It's jam-packed full of advertising, leaving 1/10th of the screen for actual content?

Oh yeah, i know when i've got actual content on the screen, you know like a movie or game, it only gets 10% of the screen because the rest is advertising...idiot. And wtf are you doing on the homescreen that requires a whole lot of screenspace? are you so dimwitted that you need the 'play disc' button to take up the whole screen?

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 2 years ago | (#42176273)

...it's up there with the XBox 360...

It's jam-packed full of advertising, leaving 1/10th of the screen for actual content?

What 'actual content'? When i'm looking at 'actual content' on my xbox i don't see any advertising.

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | about 2 years ago | (#42176807)

That means it is good advertising.

Re:Valve has a winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174315)

I think it has some kinks to iron out.

I selected a game I hadn't converted to the new format and a "desktop interface" window popped up.
The community pages are all accessed via a browser window.

I found these while playing around for 5 minutes.

Hopefully its better than the PS3 XMB (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174481)

Hopefully its better than the PS3's interface, that thing is a 6 year old, slow as hell abomination that wastes space. Sony is probably afraid to touch it though and blow up their precious memory balance they currently have going.

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

bluehairedpete (1166185) | about 2 years ago | (#42175859)

How are you running big picture in Linux? I'm using ubuntu 64/wine, with wine configured to win7, and, when i switch to big picture I get an error that DWrite.dll is missing...

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

mikael_j (106439) | about 2 years ago | (#42176351)

I tried this mode on the OS X client recently and it was extremely clunky and was mostly a pain in the ass to work with.

It's a great first try at a ten foot interface but they've definitely got some work to do.

Re:Valve has a winner (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 2 years ago | (#42177093)

I got Deus Ex for the PS3 when it came out and played it through, enjoyed it a lot. But now the missus take a lot of the TV time so I don't have that much access to it. So I got it for 4€ in the autumn sale on the PC and (no surprise) the UI is different on the PC (the 10 shortcuts for keyboard). Can anyone tell me if when I use a controller (and Big Screen) so that when I do have some TV time I can play it with controller, does the game/steam change the UI to the PS3/XBOX layout when you switch to controller?

PC required? (1)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | about 2 years ago | (#42174147)

From what I understand, I still need a beefy PC to make this work. So, how's this any different than hooking up my video card's HDMI output straight into my TV set?

Re:PC required? (3, Informative)

Suiggy (1544213) | about 2 years ago | (#42174193)

Beefy PC? There are guides coming out on how to build a $300 DIY Steambox, minus the cost of OS and the cost of an optional XBox 360 controller which you can use on Windows or Linux. It'll be competitive against Microsoft and Sony's next consoles.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/30/3706718/forget-the-ps4-and-the-xbox-720-build-your-own-steambox-on-the-cheap [theverge.com]

Re:PC required? (1)

Qzukk (229616) | about 2 years ago | (#42174301)

how's this any different than hooking up my video card's HDMI output straight into my TV set?

Now you can use a controller to navigate instead of trying to use your mouse on your knee or the arm of your sofa.

Re:PC required? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174517)

It's different, because the vanilla Steam interface is design for mouse and keyboard, while this is designed for a gamepad. It's ideal for couch potatoes like myself.

Gamepad (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174177)

The gamepad-friendly interface is the news here. It was an annoyance to have to grab a keyboard and mouse just to switch between games.

Now that TV is 1080P, all computers have a TV friendly interface.

LAN Streaming (5, Interesting)

Githaron (2462596) | about 2 years ago | (#42174231)

They should consider creating making a LAN version of game streaming, you have a small thin client hooked up to your TV but all all the work is done by your beast desktop in the next room. The biggest hindrance to their current setup is that most people don't have their computer hooked up to their TV because they use it for other things than just gaming. They could call it Steaming (Steam + Streaming). :)

why just a HDMI and USB over TCP/IP box (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 years ago | (#42174343)

why just a HDMI and USB over TCP/IP box.

Re:why just a HDMI and USB over TCP/IP box (1)

Githaron (2462596) | about 2 years ago | (#42174491)

Most people don't want to go through the trouble. Besides, I was thinking of something a little bit more refined. It would be even more awesome if you could use a beefy machine as a server of sorts by allowing multiple instances running at once so at multiple people can game at once with one computer.

You just gave me an NComputing flashback (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174755)

It would be even more awesome if you could use a beefy machine as a server of sorts by allowing multiple instances running at once so at multiple people can game at once with one computer.

So something like NComputing thin clients [wikipedia.org] ? They had those at the last place I worked, and they were slow to respond to keypresses and mouse movements. We replaced them with cheap Ubuntu boxes for accessing our internal web applications, which freed up the Windows boxes for people who really needed access to Access. I'd rather buy or build a second PC, put it in my living room, connect its HDMI out to the HDTV's HDMI in, plug three Xbox 360 Controllers into the PC, and start Trine.

Re:why just a HDMI and USB over TCP/IP box (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 2 years ago | (#42176347)

Welcome to the old days of the mainframe! You'd need a system that is powerful enough to play multiple instances of the game but also with enough power to encode multiple audio and 1080p video streams, then you need each client to be powerful enough to be able to decode that stream on the fly as well without buffering. That's certainly more effort than it's worth.

Re:LAN Streaming (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 2 years ago | (#42174351)

Steam Pipe

Re:LAN Streaming (1)

Githaron (2462596) | about 2 years ago | (#42174437)

I think I like that name better.

Re:LAN Streaming (1)

a0me (1422855) | about 2 years ago | (#42174405)

They should consider creating making a LAN version of game streaming, you have a small thin client hooked up to your TV but all all the work is done by your beast desktop in the next room. The biggest hindrance to their current setup is that most people don't have their computer hooked up to their TV because they use it for other things than just gaming. They could call it Steaming (Steam + Streaming). :)

Apple TV

The hindrance is that PC is singular (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42174759)

The biggest hindrance to their current setup is that most people don't have their computer hooked up to their TV because they use it for other things than just gaming.

I'd have to disagree: the biggest hindrance is that "computer" is singular. Instead of buying a PC for the computer desk and an Xbox 360 for the TV, why not buy a PC for the computer desk and a PC for the TV?

Re:The hindrance is that PC is singular (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176363)

I dunno, cost?

Re:The hindrance is that PC is singular (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176641)

The biggest hindrance to their current setup is that most people don't have their computer hooked up to their TV because they use it for other things than just gaming.

I'd have to disagree: the biggest hindrance is that "computer" is singular. Instead of buying a PC for the computer desk and an Xbox 360 for the TV, why not buy a PC for the computer desk and a PC for the TV?

PCs are a pain in the ass. You can make up all kinds of other reason if you want, but PC in the living room isn't a new idea, and PCs are cheaper than ever. Nobody wants a classical $300 PC on their TV as opposed to a set top or console, just to do PC stuff in addition to the living room entertainment stuff the other boxes do better, quieter, cheaper, lower power.

Nobody is asking for moar general purpose machines, what people want is really good software.

Re:The hindrance is that PC is singular (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42177379)

I see it different. Most people have far too much power on their desk (and don't need it there). I rather have the most power in the living room and just enough power on the machine for office work. (Can remotely execute compute jobs anyway so why not on the living room PC when nobody is gaming?)

Re:LAN Streaming (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175323)

steaming? Sounds like a steaming pile of shit.

only HDMI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174453)

Will this be available ONLY through an HDMI cable?

I'm at work, so I can't quite fire it up to check yet. I play games on a 32" LCDTV, but its connected via DVI, since I prefer my PC speakers over the TV's. I know that HDMI has more technology than a simple DVI (HDCP or something?) so Steam could easily tell if it was HDMI or DVI.

I know I can just maximize Steam, but basically if I want the new interface, will I have to do the tiresome, horrible work of switching out a single cable? That is a travesty.

Re:only HDMI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176257)

hdmi is basically dvi + audio as well as the ability to "protect" content (hdcp). you should be able to use your pc speakers for audio and hdmi for video, unless yoin that case, get a discrete audio card already. get a discete audio card already.

Re:only HDMI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176455)

yoin = "you have some weird on-board sound. in"
not sure how that got fucked up.

Good Marketing (0)

SmaryJerry (2759091) | about 2 years ago | (#42174623)

It's good marketing, but the thing is that anyone could already connect their computer to their TV and there are already ways to make a controller act like a keyboard. The youtube video for Big Picture received way too much attention for what amounts to a patch to allow controllers to be used without a third party app. Props to Valve for slightly improving their product and some how getting news websites everywhere to recognize this as revolutionary.

Re:Good Marketing (1)

tibman (623933) | about 2 years ago | (#42174847)

It makes you think they'll be bringing out more in this general direction, right? Like setting up for a console?

Re:Good Marketing (1)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#42177365)

Of course there are ways to do it.

Now go try it. Squinting to read tiny text on your hi-res screen on the other side of the room. Sure, you can increase the font sizes etc. Now you have to window-manage, too. And you find that a lot of apps haven't thought about what happens when you increase the font size and the top menu of their menu can take up 10% of the screen (or 20+% if it wraps because the font is large enough).

And, sure, a keyboard would work. Until you realise that the programmers forgot to put in a menu shortcut for that vital function or the error dialog that pops up needs a different shortcut key to close it (and just Enter does nothing, etc.). Sure, they can fix it but would they bother?

The point of "big-picture" mode is that someone sat down, with a big screen and just a controller, and made Steam and an awful lot of Steam games work with it. It's nothing miraculous, but it's not something you can just fake, emulate or expect every application to do. It's been that way since I was using VGA->Composite convertors on 800x600 resolution. Hell, a lot of the time you could move windows off the screen and not get them back and things like that.

Nowadays, you're so used to consoles etc. that you don't think that there's any difference between PC gaming and console gaming. Well, there is. A huge one, that has nothing to do with the games. Console gamers don't want to faff managing windows, playing with bad tab-orders in programs, etc. PC gamers don't care and will never notice.
    Big picture mode is Steam targeted at big screens. What sort of hyperbole do you think you can spin on that when that's ALL they've ever claimed?

The fuss is because it's *necessary* and *useful* and because now having a TV with HDTV resolution and a handful of Bluetooth / USB controllers around the house is so much more prevalent than it's ever been before that it's viable to just run your Steam account on the TV.

I don't think it will be long before you see Steam on smart-TV's and their own console. But if they *hadn't* done big-picture, it would always have been a second-class app like any number of Windows apps that just don't care about anything non-PC-desktop.

They need to add media capabilities (2)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | about 2 years ago | (#42174753)

They need to add the ability to browse my media library and access internet media content since gaming on a console is becoming secondary to media.

Re:They need to add media capabilities (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42174819)

You can set up a shortcut in steam ("Add a non-steam game") to something like XBMC.

Re:They need to add media capabilities (2)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 2 years ago | (#42175203)

We might just see XBMC integration.

Re:They need to add media capabilities (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176169)

Very very unlikely.

Valve on Monday (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42175351)

What about Valve in Tuesday?

gamepad (1)

Pedestrianwolf (1591767) | about 2 years ago | (#42175665)

Typing on a gamepad sucks. Period. That said, the typing mechanism in Steam for the gamepad sucks considerably less than anything else I've tried (post learning curve).

Local Coop/Multiplayer games (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42176161)

The big picture mode is definitely a welcome addition. Now that this has officially been released, if you're looking for PC games that have a local coop or local multiplayer mode, here's about 150 of them: http://pccouchcoop.com

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