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Over 1000 Volunteers For 'Suicide' Mission To Mars

Unknown Lamer posted about 2 years ago | from the i-want-out dept.

Mars 453

New submitter thAMESresearcher writes with a few updates on Mars One: "The Dutch company Mars One is organizing a one way mission to Mars 2023. In a press release that came out today, they say they have over a thousand applicants already. In the press release they also mention that they are now a not-for-profit Foundation. It sounds ambitious, but they have a Nobel prize winner, an astronaut, and several people from NASA on their board." The actual selection process starts early next year.

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They're just going for the beads (0)

Press2ToContinue (2424598) | about 2 years ago | (#42191363)

If the martian soil is composed of Mardi Gras beads, then what else is up there too? I'd say go!

It's the party planet! I don't care if I never get back...

They've already announced their picks for the crew (5, Funny)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42191381)

"We've carefully reviewed the 1,000 candidates who volunteered online and have put together a team of our finest candidates," said Mars One head Bas Lansdorp:

Captain:
Jack Meov

Pilots:
Bob A. Booey
Ivana Bloweau

Mission specialists:
Mike Hunt
Jean Luc Picard
George Washington
Richard Flair, N.B.

Not a Former NFL Linebacker! (3, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | about 2 years ago | (#42191587)

Mike Hunt

Yeah right, you're trying to tell me that former Green Bay Packer Michael Anthony Hunt [wikipedia.org] signed up for this? Mike Hunt received a total of two interceptions while playing only twenty two games. Mike Hunt knows how to play the field. It's ridiculous to think that we would waste Mike Hunt, a national treasure that has been enjoyed by millions of burly men, by putting Mike Hunt on a Mars suicide mission!

Re:Not a Former NFL Linebacker! (5, Funny)

crazyjj (2598719) | about 2 years ago | (#42191745)

Admittedly, Mike Hunt was quite a ballplayer.

Re:Not a Former NFL Linebacker! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191855)

Id rather see Mike Going there, rather than Ivana Bloweau or George Washington.

Re:Not a Former NFL Linebacker! (1, Funny)

yincrash (854885) | about 2 years ago | (#42192043)

I'm pretty sure the GP was talking about Michael Hunt [wikipedia.org] the 12 time national champion roller hockey player. He's championed one of the greatest sports for so long, that he needed a new challenge. Mars.

Re:Not a Former NFL Linebacker! (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 2 years ago | (#42192125)

Mike Hunt

Yeah right, you're trying to tell me that former Green Bay Packer Michael Anthony Hunt [wikipedia.org] signed up for this? Mike Hunt received a total of two interceptions while playing only twenty two games. Mike Hunt knows how to play the field. It's ridiculous to think that we would waste Mike Hunt, a national treasure that has been enjoyed by millions of burly men, by putting Mike Hunt on a Mars suicide mission!

Maybe you missed the news. It's over for Mike Hunt, anyway - so he has nothing to lose. http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0130229/brain-disease-found-in-nfl-players?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [slashdot.org]

Re:They've already announced their picks for the c (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 2 years ago | (#42191771)

Wait a minute, that can't be right... I mean, Washington is from Venus. [slashdot.org]

Just a few more Jedi Knights... (2)

Vexler (127353) | about 2 years ago | (#42191403)

...and we can call this mission "Outbound Flight".

I would go if there was a suicide booth (4, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | about 2 years ago | (#42191437)

The thing about suicide missions most people aren't considering is body disposal. There must be an effective and sanitary means of handling the body. It would be nice if they could make soylent green, but at the very least there should be a device which would render a body as "gone" in a clean and sanitary manner. A body disposal bot would be pretty ideal... "bring out your dead... bring out your dead..."

Anyway, I'd be all for it. I have produced three viable offspring and don't plan to produce more. If departure is within the next 20 years, I'll be a perfect candidate for such a mission... I doubt my wife would agree though.

Au Contraire (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191537)

I'll be a perfect candidate for such a mission... I doubt my wife would agree though.

Au contraire. Just last night she was telling me that she'd do anything to get rid of you.

I'm pretty sure she'd be a for shooting you at Mars.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191549)

I'll keep her company ;-)

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (5, Insightful)

trout007 (975317) | about 2 years ago | (#42191551)

On Mars it's known as Outside.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191561)

She would if you had a phat life insurance policy she could cash out upon your "death."

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191591)

Last thing I heard, there is still no sign of life on Mars, so shouldn't "tossing the body out of the window" be perfectly clean and sanitary, as long as you don't mind seeing eternally-preserved bodies outside?

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (3, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#42191693)

Last thing I heard, there is still no sign of life on Mars, so shouldn't "tossing the body out of the window" be perfectly clean and sanitary, as long as you don't mind seeing eternally-preserved bodies outside?

We now know something about martian dust airflow, so you could probably get a rough calculation of how long it would take for a frozen corpse to be sandblasted beyond usable recognition...

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191703)

The microbes in your body and any brought along with the spaceship will make sure your corpse won't go to waste.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191783)

I think it would be very interesting to find earth microbes that can survive on Mars. The low pressure will probably stop everything.
Maybe some can survive if the change to Mars conditions is done gradually.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191843)

The secret to terraforming Mars: mass suicide. I vote we call the first settlement on Mars Jonestown.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191793)

Totally! The human body doesn't carry any microorganisms or anything.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191593)

go for it dear, sounds fun

Mrs erroneus

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 2 years ago | (#42191707)

The thing about suicide missions most people aren't considering is body disposal. There must be an effective and sanitary means of handling the body. It would be nice if they could make soylent green, but at the very least there should be a device which would render a body as "gone" in a clean and sanitary manner.

Deathstills, clearly. A man's flesh is his own, his water belongs to the other astronauts.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191733)

I'd go if the number of people sent was larger. 40 or 50 people would be about right to start a colony. I wouldn't go with smaller numbers.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (1)

olau (314197) | about 2 years ago | (#42191899)

Perhaps your children wouldn't agree either?

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (2)

erroneus (253617) | about 2 years ago | (#42192191)

My children understand me better than my wife does. They are a lot like me in most respects. I see life as a whole bunch of comings and goings. We only "mourn" when we have a body and a certainty that the last time has passed. We don't freak out when we part ways after lunch even if in reality, that might be the last time you see someone alive! So when you take it apart, you realize that the mechanism is based in no small part on the notion that it is final.

I would continue to be able to interact with them and so it would be little different than what we have now. We part ways and spend less time together. The magnitude of physical distance has little bearing on the notion.... only that there is a physical distance. These days, we try to plan time over holidays and stuff. My little one still lives with me though. So it would be best if he were on his own before I go off to Mars right? And between now and then, I hope to express my philosophies in a way that provides a useful framework for him to experience and manage life that works for him as I have with my first two sons.

That's parenting after all.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192023)

Recycle them, you have to eat.

Of course prion based diseases like kufu can result from that.

Re:I would go if there was a suicide booth (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#42192173)

what nonsense: they would just bury the body on mars. plenty of sand and rubble there. problem solved. it will naturally mummify, by the way.

Have the actually verified the Volunteers... (5, Funny)

MADCOWbeserk (515545) | about 2 years ago | (#42191477)

I wouldn't be surprised if lots of guys didn't just volunteer their ex-wives.

Re:Have the actually verified the Volunteers... (1)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about 2 years ago | (#42191577)

made me think of a quote from the new Star Trek movie.

"My Ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce. All I have left are my bones."

Re:Have the actually verified the Volunteers... (2, Interesting)

hymie! (95907) | about 2 years ago | (#42191775)

"My Ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce. All I have left are my bones."

That quote was one of the many many reasons I hated that movie. "Gee, we need to force a perfectly reasonable medical nickname onto this character. Is this mallet large enough?"

If you volunteer, then you are not qualified.... (0, Troll)

gweihir (88907) | about 2 years ago | (#42191509)

Those who volunteer are clearly stupid or suicidal. Both disqualify them for participation.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (3, Insightful)

cheaphomemadeacid (881971) | about 2 years ago | (#42191609)

Yeah you're right, we should never have climed down from the trees, or walk out of the sea for that matter...

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (0)

Talderas (1212466) | about 2 years ago | (#42191813)

Monkeys pay for good quality porn.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192045)

There's a big difference between crawling out of the ocean, or climbing down from a tree; you can always go back.

This is a one way trip.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

alen (225700) | about 2 years ago | (#42192107)

there was protein rich food in the grass, carcasses

there is no food on Mars

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

loneDreamer (1502073) | about 2 years ago | (#42192171)

Sorry, I was about to mod you Funny, but hit overrated instead. Commenting to undo.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

Rhacman (1528815) | about 2 years ago | (#42192215)

Great, now all I can think about is all the fun monkeys have up in the trees and that dolphins have frolicking in the ocean!

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (5, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#42191679)

I think that even some royalty probably said the same about traders who crossed the Atlantic, or tried to climb certain ranges of mountain to get to the next village, or ride the around around certain Cape around South Africa at some point.

You don't need to be stupid to want to go live on a planet of your own (effectively), especially if follow-up missions are likely. You *do* need to screen people for suicidal tendencies, because that can be a major factor - but there's nothing to say that a perfectly sane person wouldn't choose suicide in tough circumstances like they are likely to face anyway.

In fact, one of Man's greatest moments was called "stupid" at the time and ended up suicides. Or you wouldn't know *shit* about the South Pole now.

"I may be some time" doesn't ring a bell about one of our greatest explorers ever?

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191801)

In all fairness the last expedition of Scott was pretty stupid. Plus, the man seemed to be kind of douche.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

dinfinity (2300094) | about 2 years ago | (#42191961)

Big difference:
They either had no idea of what they would find (explorers), or knew exactly that great rewards could await them.

Pretty much the only interesting things about Mars are some geological history and potentially a biological history. I'm not saying it isn't cool or valuable to go there, just that it's not that interesting.

Other point: we would know a lot about the South Pole if no one had ever gone there in a stupid suicidal way.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (2)

Bardez (915334) | about 2 years ago | (#42191763)

Those who volunteer are clearly stupid or suicidal. Both disqualify them for participation.

"That's some catch."

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 2 years ago | (#42191933)

22?

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

shking (125052) | about 2 years ago | (#42191841)

The Arrogant Worms have the perfect response to this http://youtu.be/iIT15HJMRqQ [youtu.be]

Not really (2)

EzInKy (115248) | about 2 years ago | (#42191991)

There are many of who have had children and even grandchildren by now. We've contributed to the gene pool as much as we can. What else do we have left other than to look forward to death by one means or another? Wouldn't it be better to go in a project that might advance humanity than sit around wasting its resources?

Re:Not really (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192115)

There is nothing that YOU can do in a deep space mission that would not be wasteful. Getting shipped off to Mars is just about the wasteful, most narcissistic thing you could ever hope to do.

If you want to commit suicide, go eat a bullet, or a whole bunch of sleeping pills. If you want to work on a project that "might advance humanity," go volunteer for the Peace Corps, instead of asking us to spend billions of dollars launching you and a handful of other assholes off to Mars for absolutely no meaningful benefit.

Do you think we'd learn much of any value by sending you up there to float around, complain about the lack of good porn and wifi, and spill Cheetos all over the inside of the habitat? Fuck right off. No seriously - fuck off.

Re:Not really (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#42192197)

most of us are self motivated to train and be trained to operate extremely complicated system, as we already do it for a living

maybe you would have no such abilities....

Re:Not really (1)

BonzaiThePenguin (2528980) | about 2 years ago | (#42192227)

There's more to life than having kids, wasting resources, and traveling to Mars. Maybe they could try community service or something.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (1)

Evtim (1022085) | about 2 years ago | (#42192143)

And those who do not want to volunteer are the most stable and responsible citizens - clearly ideal candidates for such an important mission.

captcha: Catch 22

Geek Heaven (1)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 2 years ago | (#42192153)

Think of it as a sort of geek heaven where the probability of reaching nirvana is > 0.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (2)

allcoolnameswheretak (1102727) | about 2 years ago | (#42192183)

I was wondering about the same thing. But maybe some people are just incredibly ambitious (in the sense of acquiring honor & fame) to be genuinely OK with sacrificing their lives without otherwise being bonkers.

In 1492, some people would have called Columbus' voyage a suicide mission, yet obviously enough people could be found to man three ships.

Re:If you volunteer, then you are not qualified... (4, Insightful)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#42192221)

a one-way mission is not a suicide mission, resupply is a much easier and less resource intensive operation. You are merely judging more adventurous people, those with a pioneering spirit, by your very sheltered and coddled lifestyle.

Too old in a decade (2)

sometext (2537330) | about 2 years ago | (#42191519)

I wonder how many of their applicants will be too old by 2023.

Re:Too old in a decade (1)

mark-t (151149) | about 2 years ago | (#42191721)

Let me guess.... you're under 25, right?

I mean, if you really think that a decade is going to make that much difference....

Re:Too old in a decade (0)

sometext (2537330) | about 2 years ago | (#42191919)

I am actually. What is an appropriate age cap for this sort of mission?

Well that is one way to flush out.... (0)

3seas (184403) | about 2 years ago | (#42191525)

.... terrorist...

Telephone sanitizers? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191553)

How many of those 1.000 candidates are telephone sanitizers?

Collecting volunteers on the internet (3, Interesting)

Hentes (2461350) | about 2 years ago | (#42191585)

Shooting random volunteers on a one-way trip to Mars so they can Make a reality there? Sounds like a scam to me.

Re:Collecting volunteers on the internet (5, Funny)

Smidge204 (605297) | about 2 years ago | (#42191683)

"Wanted: Somebody to go to Mars with me. This is not a joke. Must bring your own weapons. Safety not guaranteed."

=Smidge=

one condition (1)

tverbeek (457094) | about 2 years ago | (#42191595)

I'd go, but only if they offered reliable broadband internet access. (I'll put up with the latency as one of those facts-of-physics thangs.)

Re:one condition (5, Informative)

codewarren (927270) | about 2 years ago | (#42191755)

This isn't 30 second latency we're talking about. When mars is furthest from earth, best case latency is a whopping 42 minutes. That means after you click a link, the very best case is that there are 42 minutes before you get a reply.

Re:one condition (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#42191955)

no tcp being used? no arping? no nameserver i/o?

42 minutes (if you say so) for EACH PACKET, EACH WAY.

tcp/ip, in its current state, is entirely wrong for very long latencies.

Re:one condition (1)

codewarren (927270) | about 2 years ago | (#42192141)

No... it is 21 minutes for each packet each way. I've already thought of that, of course. 42 minutes is the round trip time. I've also assumed that TCP/IP is not being used, but some other protocol. Doesn't matter how good that protocol is, though, because you'll never beat 42 minutes during the time Mars is at its farthest from earth. This is why I say "best case"

You can have a proxy on earth for all the TCP/IP, arping, and nameserver I/O. You just need a way to send data to that proxy when you click a link, and a way to get all the data to construct the web page back from the proxy so that you can reassemble the page on Mars.

There are of course other considerations. Data from Mars will have to be error tolerant because any retransmission would add another 42 minutes, so redundancy will have to be built in, thus reducing bandwidth. Ditto for the return trip. That's all very fascinating but my point is just that this idea that you can browse the internet for the rest of your life doesn't seem so great when everything you do takes 42 minutes to be actualized.

Re:one condition (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192051)

so like comcast then?

Legalize on Mars (1)

Prokur (2445102) | about 2 years ago | (#42191601)

Seems that they gonna find some water to grow the weed there

Hmmmmm (4, Funny)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#42191603)

And yet when my company kills people as a cost cutting measure, ohhhh, suddenly that's illegal, lol.

Re:Hmmmmm (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191797)

You're doing it wrong. You shouldn't fire these people, you should promote them to 'Chief Mars Officer'

Needs more women (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191621)

More women slaves, I mean volunteers. Seeing that it is in Europe, child sex slaves, I mean volunteers, should be easy to find.

WATER? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191669)

AM I THE ONLY ONE WONDERING ABOUT WATER?
Think about how the volume of liquid the average person consumes in just one day. its over 3 gallons. Assuming you cut out showers and slim down cooking needs, you still need ~1.5 gallons a day!

Where the hell are they going to find water? Shipping it surely isn't an option....

Re:WATER? (3, Funny)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about 2 years ago | (#42191727)

Where the hell are they going to find water? Shipping it surely isn't an option....

Don't call me Shirley.

Re:WATER? (4, Interesting)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#42191845)

In an air-tight environment, almost all of that water is excreted again at some point. Most as water vapour in your breath, some as urine, some as sweat, some in your faeces etc.

If you put a human in a hermetically-sealed box and gave them enough food and water for a week, that water would still be around in the box at the end. It's just a matter of collecting it.

Move forward to a non-hermetically sealed box and imperfect collection mechanisms and all you have to do it make up the difference. That's significantly less.

Your primary fuel will be hydrogen and oxygen. We actually think we can find most of that for a "return journey" by breaking down water found on the planet itself, it's so plentiful. Ignoring that, igniting said fuel (say, for warmth) produces pure water as the exhaust gas. Failing actually finding it on the planet, you can capture those gases from the air and make water by igniting hydrogen in oxygen. It's just a matter of time and electricity, both of which would (presumably) be plentiful on a mission to Mars.

Ignoring *that* - there is water ice on Mars. We know it. And in 20 years time, we'll know it even better. If there isn't, then taking along enough to make up the losses for several months/years at a time is a no-brainer. Hell, we got to the moon for several people without water shortages, any mission to Mars will scale up similarly.

Water really isn't a problem. Heat is your problem. Heating makes up a HUGE fraction of our energy usage even today, and Mars is colder (-143 to about 35 centigrade on the surface depending on latitude and time of day). So the hottest part of the hottest day on Mars is a warm summer's day, the coldest part of the coldest day is colder than the coldest recorded temperature ever on Earth.

So whatever way you look at it, the energy needed to keep you warm, and your surroundings warm, especially if you're going to build a colony to support life long-term, is through the roof compared to the difficulty of digging down or extracting water from the atmosphere with even the most inefficient tools.

Re:WATER? (2)

Tarlus (1000874) | about 2 years ago | (#42192087)

Stillsuits.

I guess... (1)

Jintsui (2759005) | about 2 years ago | (#42191671)

We need over 1000 more beds in a mental hospital...

Elon Musk wants 80,000 colonists (5, Informative)

WillAdams (45638) | about 2 years ago | (#42191695)

"SpaceX founder Elon Musk wants to create a colony on Mars consisting of a population of 80,000, ferried to the planet in a reusable rocket. For the initial trip, the rocket would contain fewer than 10 humans, and enough equipment to found a colony ready for the other 79,990."

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-11/what-do-we-know-about-elon-musks-plan-mars-colony [popsci.com]

But there are way more than 80000 lawyers on Earth (5, Funny)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 2 years ago | (#42192015)

What the hell are we going to do with the rest of them?

Re:But there are way more than 80000 lawyers on Ea (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192105)

Colonize the Sun?

Funnly last sentence (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191697)

Am I the only one who misread it as "The natural selection process starts early next year"?

This will end in mutiny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191747)

I think they're some of them are going to get homesick on the way there and start rethinking this and want to turn around and come before they pass the point of no return. My prediction: there's a mutiny on the ship before they even get halfway there by those who have changed their minds.

What would you do before you died on Mars? (4, Funny)

madhatter256 (443326) | about 2 years ago | (#42191779)

If you're in Mars doing a one-way mission with no hopes of returning. What would you do before you died?

I'd make an effort to fuck with people's minds in the future.

I would make an elaborate treasure map of ancient alien civilizations in areas that are suitable for future human settlements. That way when people find my map and realize a government building is built on a location that apparently has ancient alien bones, treasure, etc., they think it was a government conspiracy or cover up and madness will ensue (but I'll be laughing from the heavans).

I would look for a cave and set up fake cave paintings like Prometheus pointing towards the Sun. That way they may send some poor sap to go explore the sun for possible clues (and possibly make great discoveries along the way) but in the end a lot of people will die because the Sun is really dangerous.

And the day I will fall to near death I will walk as far as I can, fall flat on my face, break my protective suit and have my right arm point in some arbitrary direction, so when rigormortous kicks in, my arm stays in that position. That way people will wonder what the hell I was pointing at.

I guess I want to be an asshole astronaut lol.

Re:What would you do before you died on Mars? (3, Funny)

ledow (319597) | about 2 years ago | (#42191941)

Walk backwards for several miles from a crack in the rock. Some future explorer will follow that trail and think I disappeared.

Leave any colony in a state like the LV-426 colony, just for the laughs. A little-known, ugly-looking, smuggled Earth creature stuck in a specimen jar for bonus points.

Sketch out a Turing machine calculating flight trajectories in the dust on the ground, just for the hell of it.

Hunt down the Mars Rovers and turn them into Roomba's. Bonus points for making it look like Wall-E.

Write "Beware of the...." in the sand before I die.

Re:What would you do before you died on Mars? (0)

mark-t (151149) | about 2 years ago | (#42192009)

Walk backwards for several miles from a crack in the rock. Some future explorer will follow that trail and think I disappeared.

Mars has an atmosphere... and the winds can sometimes get to be quite strong. There is every chance that any footprints you try to leave would simply get eroded to invisibility by martian weather in a few year's time.

Re:What would you do before you died on Mars? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191989)

You mean an asstronaut?

Re:What would you do before you died on Mars? (1)

Krneki (1192201) | about 2 years ago | (#42192131)

Create a script to post random stuff on Facebook/tweet/email ad infinitum.

Is humanity "too big to fail"? (2)

concealment (2447304) | about 2 years ago | (#42191787)

We keep hearing about how banks, firms, etc. that were "too big to fail" have ...failed.

Then we hear about how humanity is now global and the future is bright. Are we too big to fail, and thus prone to failure?

The interest in Mars seems less about exploration and more about looking for another planet to inhabit. Taken as a whole, this one may be about done, or rather, the human civilizations on it appear to be teetering over the precipice of internal disaster.

Re:Is humanity "too big to fail"? (2)

Floyd-ATC (2619991) | about 2 years ago | (#42192209)

I think it was the other way around. Our ancestors messed up Mars and then some of them managed to escape to Earth.

Terrible Way to Colonize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191803)

Mars One seems to be jumping the gun to colonize the planet. We hardly know if the place is sustainable. Not like people can freely walk around outside without a environmental suit. That alone could drive someone crazy, this project being setup as huge-big brother television program is even worse.

With no way home, with no medical aid if something gets serious, Mars will be tainted with stink of failure and death. Are these people going even allow have children? I hope they REALLY think this through and make sure there some sort of productive means to grow and not just be a butt of jokes until people dying.

Re:Terrible Way to Colonize (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192225)

We hardly know if the place is sustainable.

Actually, we DO know if the place is sustainable - unfortunately for all the Mars nutters, the answer is "no, it will not sustain human life."

The ONLY way to live on Mars is to pour tremendous amounts of energy into keeping the humans alive - still under the threat of constant catastrophic death - until something finally, catastrophically, fails.

ANY attempt to colonize a planet that is not already within tolerances for human life will be a ridiculous circus sideshow, and invariably will end in abysmal, catastrophic failure. The energy costs are not sustainable, and the biology simply won't support it without pouring massive amounts of energy into producing a small "bubble" of hospitable environment that will be too fragile and too complex to maintain.

A Few Minor Problems To Be Solved .... (0, Redundant)

TechnoGrl (322690) | about 2 years ago | (#42191829)

1. Lack of an actual vehicle to take 10 people let alone 80K people to Mars

2. Lack of a support infrastructure to support 80K people on Mars

3. Lack of any actual technology to extract air water and food for 80K people on mars.

However I am sure that Mr. Musk will have all the above minor nits worked out in the next 11 years by which time he'll be recruiting for the Tau Ceti mission no doubt.

Re:A Few Minor Problems To Be Solved .... (1)

ProppaT (557551) | about 2 years ago | (#42191909)

You did read the part where they said it was a suicide mission, right?

..Suicide? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42191869)

Suicide? More like immortality.

The greatest privilege I can imagine is the chance to live out your years on a frontier, working your fingers to the bone every day to up the survival chances for everyone else. It would be a rough haul, that's for sure - but like bacteria, you'd dying to prepare the ground for later life.

Re:..Suicide? (2)

thereitis (2355426) | about 2 years ago | (#42192217)

You live on a planet for awhile and die there. In this case it will be on Mars. I don't see why this is being dubbed a "suicide mission".

Some things not thought of... (2)

liquidweaver (1988660) | about 2 years ago | (#42191881)

Lets assume they establish a viable colony on Mars, which is so successful it outlives the parent company. Whose responsibility is it then? The Dutch government?
Will they have a virtual seat at the UN?
What about laws with clear legal language that specify the "earth". "globally", etc... will those laws apply to Mars?
If a martian worker wants to telework in the US, will they require a visa or some sort of space permit?

Re:Some things not thought of... (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | about 2 years ago | (#42192185)

I don't think a private company will think about those matters. Well, maybe they do, for a short moment, and then say "that's for the politicians to figure out, not our problem".

Such a colony on Mars, especially small ones, will anyway be a perfect anarchy/communist type of organisation. They're too small to have anything that resembles a government.

Suicide mission? Or one-way trip? (2)

mozumder (178398) | about 2 years ago | (#42191891)

It's a suicide mission if the intent is to kill them. It's a one-way trip if the intent is to live there.

Re:Suicide mission? Or one-way trip? (2)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 2 years ago | (#42191957)

Intent is all a matter of perspective. If it were a one way trip to the Sun, or even the bottom of the Atlantic ocean, it would still be a suicide mission.

Ridiculous Title (5, Funny)

machinelou (1119861) | about 2 years ago | (#42191977)

Newsflash: Rest of Earth's population chooses 'suicide' mission at home.

Seems like these people were told... (0)

Quakeulf (2650167) | about 2 years ago | (#42192029)

Get your ass to Mars!

All or nothing (5, Funny)

petes_PoV (912422) | about 2 years ago | (#42192047)

Either there should be no lawyers among the 80,000 or they should ALL be. One group stands a chance of establishing a utopian society, the other would, at least, be doing all us earthlings a huge favour.

Re:All or nothing (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | about 2 years ago | (#42192201)

As long as they do not send out all the phone sanitisers, or we'd be in a lot of trouble.

I want now! I want it now!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42192127)

That reminds me of "Teach yourself programming in 10 years".

We should have started preparations to go to Mars long ago (and we did with all those Mars environment emulation with people living inside bubbles for months).

But going now with a suicide perspective is wrong -- and only for/because of the astronauts. We should aim higher. We should have total control -- or at least what we have with cars, where mishaps can be attributed to external factors like chance, DUI etc.

Even with the ancient "discoveries" (ships with windsails etc), there was the needed step of people surviving on the colonies -- if not for humane reasons then for lowly political ones.

But people want it now -- it's the "do something, now, even if wrong" mentality...

Just a publicity stunt (4, Insightful)

Wdi (142463) | about 2 years ago | (#42192233)

They are now starting the astronaut selection program for a trip in 10 years, but there is no indication whatever that they are concerned about the much more fundamental task of designing a transport ship?!?! Really, really suspicious. What are the prospects supposed to train on/for ?

"People in thirty seven countries have purchased our merchandise, demonstrating their support for Mars One"

OK, I understand. Presumably the foundation managers are well paid. That is no problem even for a non-profit.

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