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iPhone Finally Coming To T-Mobile In 2013

Soulskill posted about a year ago | from the they-move-quickly dept.

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New submitter kc67 sends this report from ABC: "Five years after the iPhone originally launched in 2007, T-Mobile will finally start carrying it. It might not be as buzz-worthy as when Verizon finally got the iPhone back in 2011, but it's going to be a pretty big deal for T-Mobile subscribers next year, when the carrier starts selling Apple products. ... T-Mobile USA CEO John Legere said while speaking at the Deutsche Telekom conference Thursday that it will carry the iPhone and will offer it in a different way. 'What was missing? A certain number of customers wouldn't come to the store if we didn't have the iPhone,' Legere said. 'We worked very, very hard for a deal that made sense for us.'"

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New problem (4, Funny)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year ago | (#42219759)

Unfortunately now a certain number of customers won't come to the store if there are douche bags.

Separate story? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219901)

I had not heard they were also carrying Android.

Re:New problem (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219939)

you mean like the constant android douche bags who attack any mention of the iphone?

Re:New problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220043)

I was thinking the same thing. Although there aren't exactly many alternative options given that Verizon & AT&T have it. However I'm sure there are a few places left like Sprint maybe and a handful of others in some areas. I'm in a large town and we don't even have a T-MOBILE store though. Althouh we do have Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. I'm wondering if I should now consider switching to Sprint. All in all T-Mobile still seems to be the the least bad of all the carriers though. They are at least GSM based and the price is certainly right for the basic service for which I require. I'm also not sure I can blame them for offering it. Its things like this or the company collapses. They probably should be working on improving service although I think the lack of service has to do with GSM and nothing to do with them in particular. AT&T has the same problems. Fortunately for them some people don't care, some people are too cheap, and some people like me prefer GSM because its an international standard (not to mention it isn't that bad- as long as you live in town the difference between AT&T/T-MOBILE and Verizon/Sprint is the difference between having service in 98% of places and and 99% of places- so unless your living in a residential area and can't get a mini-cell or wifi-setup to make up for it...).

Re:New problem (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42220527)

However I'm sure there are a few places left like Sprint maybe and a handful of others in some areas.

Sprint has had the iPhone since the 4S eelease last year.

Re:New problem (1)

hahn (101816) | about a year ago | (#42220643)

....Fortunately for them some people don't care, some people are too cheap, and some people like me prefer GSM because its an international standard

The iPhone 5 has GSM no matter which company you go with. Only the Verizon and Sprint versions have CDMA. And for LTE, the two different varieties use different bands. Which variety you will want (if you want LTE internationally) for international travel depends on which country you're visiting. For GSM, it doesn't matter.

as long as they dont merge (-1, Offtopic)

metalmaster (1005171) | about a year ago | (#42219773)

im wholly against a merger with metroPCS, and i'll take my money elswwhere

Re:as long as they dont merge (3, Insightful)

andymadigan (792996) | about a year ago | (#42220215)

You're against T-mo getting more spectrum so they can improve coverage? Why?

Re:as long as they dont merge (1)

oneiron (716313) | about a year ago | (#42221017)

I was so puzzled by this question that I had to go digging for an answer, and it looks like the MOP is actually an ex-metroPCS employee. Likely with a low opinion of his former employer...possibly bitter over witnessing typical sleazy telecom behavior and being forced to carry it out... Still though, given the way a telecom merger works, your question still requires an answer.

Applies to the US only (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219783)

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/
and you see an iPhone 5. T-Mobile have been offering it over here for a considerable time.
About time the US caught up with other parts of the world...

Re:Applies to the US only (-1, Flamebait)

Clockwurk (577966) | about a year ago | (#42220231)

Yes, its about time that Americans caught up to the rest of the world by getting an American phone on the 4th largest carrier that has 1/3 the subscibers of ATT or Verizon. Its especially rich that you linked the to a site in the UK where they only got 4G in October of this year.

You stupid fuck.

Re:Applies to the US only (0)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | about a year ago | (#42220463)

The US likes to exclude people. It makes them feel special where as everyone else rather have their choice of carrier when choosing an iphone.

Re:Applies to the US only (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42221073)

... everyone else rather have their choice of carrier when choosing a phone.

FTFY

T-Mobile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219785)

I for one welcome our new T-Mobile overlords who (supposedly) do not keep your iPhone text messages into foreverdom...as long as you do not use iMessage, that is!

Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (-1, Troll)

PopAndShop (2790549) | about a year ago | (#42219787)

I've recently adjusted to using my Macbook and I gotta tell I love the experience. Is it the same on iPhone rather than the problematic Android? I would also consider Windows Phone 8.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (-1, Troll)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#42219807)

I'm looking to switch to the iPhone largely because of Google's Total Information Awareness information gathering policies.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (3, Informative)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#42219893)

You should probably be aware that you can use Android without any connections to Google at all, despite the FUD. Also, Android is not your only other option.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#42220509)

Yes, I can also write my own PIM and POOM applications and build my own cloud. I'm talking about practicality here, not what's physically possible.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220859)

Can you explain how? Someone gave me a TMobile G1 phone, but I was unable to use it until I created a Google account and enter the account information into the phone.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (2)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | about a year ago | (#42219809)

Dunno, I know a lot of non-techs that moved en masse from iPhone to Galaxy S3 and were like OMG THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!! and they're crazy Mac users that have Macbooks.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219911)

So those techs now qualify as 'sheeple'?
Sheep, flock etc etc.

Android experiences do vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Mine with HTC is not exactly brilliant.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

Jeng (926980) | about a year ago | (#42220005)

Or even by country. I have an HTC G2 which runs stock android, but it is sold outside the US as the HTC Desire Z with the HTC Sense installed.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

devleopard (317515) | about a year ago | (#42220177)

I actually own both an iPhone 5 and an S3. I've had 4 iPhones, and purchased the S3 b/c I wanted a test phone for mobile development. My plan: I'll make whatever seems the better phone my primary line.

My opinion: the S3 seems to be a superior phone. However, there are some really top notch apps on iOS, and I'm finding poor substitutes so far on Google Play (both free and paid). (TweetBot, Things, Downcast, and OmniFocus come to mind) Some of the "same" apps available on both are very poor on Android. Some of my favorite games aren't on Android (PopCap titles). Even where I've found identical apps, often there's no "Pro" version on Android that I can (re)purchase to get rid of ads.

Bottom line: the S3 is s superior device, and I love Android's features, but it's all about the apps. I'm really cheering for the S3, but I think it'll be at least a year before the ecosystem catches up. :-(

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

aaronfaby (741318) | about a year ago | (#42220379)

What do you like about the S3 that you feel makes it superior to iPhone? What I've noticed about most iPhone/Android comparisons is that people will present minor features that most users will never touch as their reasons for their preferred device being "superior". It's like at the beginning of Monty Python and the Meaning of Life where the Protestant husband is describing how they are superior to Catholics because they can have sex anytime they want and not have to worry about having children because they are allowed to wear condoms. And during the conversation with his wife it is revealed that they've only had sex twice and have two children.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220997)

>What I've noticed about most iPhone/Android comparisons is that people will
>present minor features that most users will never touch as their reasons for
>their preferred device being "superior"

That is because because all phones are approximately alike but everybodies specific needs are different. So you can pick the minor features to get your personal best phone.

My phone needs to have a physical keyboard which almost nobody cares about anymore, I need the screen real-estate to not be obscure with an onscreen keyboard in landscape mode when ssh-ing into servers if the need arrives. So Apple is out of the picture, most Androids manufactures also (even HTC which so far supplied me with a G1 and G2 announced killing keyboards). Maybe something like a Note2 will work for me when my G2 breaks.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

shellbeach (610559) | about a year ago | (#42221501)

What I've noticed about most iPhone/Android comparisons is that people will present minor features that most users will never touch as their reasons for their preferred device being "superior".

How about platform openness? Just sayin' ...

Seriously, though. The reason I went with Android rather than iPhone back in the day was because Apple made it so difficult to jailbreak their new devices. With a Nexus phone, rooting and installing a custom ROM is actively encouraged by Google. For someone who loves coding like myself, it's a no-brainer.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#42220965)

It will be even longer if people keep starting with an iOS app and port it too closely for Android. The reduced number of controls on iPhones mean a few more compromises must made in navigation, and those should be removed, as Android users generally aren't used to them, and they waste screen real-estate. You really need to take the available controls into account when developing the UI, and many to a quick port without doing that. I have a couple of apps that are barely usable because of it.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

Sexy Commando (612371) | about a year ago | (#42221067)

You can find Popcaps games from Amazon Android market. Just download the market app from amazon.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (3, Interesting)

TheNinjaroach (878876) | about a year ago | (#42219991)

I have a Macbook and I think it's a mostly "meh" experience with a shitty screen and heavy hardware.

I just bought an iPhone 4S for use on a prepaid plan and found the experience to be very different, that is, much better than the Macbook.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#42220981)

I'd love to get a MacBook (and run Debian/KDE on it). Those new screens are quite nice. If Apple would allow people to install software from alternate sources and stop with the proprietary connectors and frivolous lawsuits, I might be willing to shell out the cash for one.

Re:Should I get an iPhone rather than Android (1)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about a year ago | (#42221491)

Apple does allow people to install software from any source on a MacBook. They always have, even under the newest OS X release.

t-mobile has great pre-paid plans (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219795)

I hope all the i-shiny folks coming over will not ruin that.

Re:t-mobile has great pre-paid plans (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about a year ago | (#42220105)

T-Mobile says it already has a million iPhone users - people like me who brought their own device.

So we "i-shiny" folks are already there.

Re:t-mobile has great pre-paid plans (1)

SeaFox (739806) | about a year ago | (#42221143)

Yes, but you brought you own device and continue to use it. You're not one of those high-maintenance customers who needs to upgrade their iPhone every time a new ones comes out, or throws a huge fit if you get a scratch on the casing and wants the whole phone replaced, etc. So you're not the same sort of customer the AC is referring to. Customers who raise operating costs for carriers and make them raise prices for everyone.

Re:t-mobile has great pre-paid plans (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about a year ago | (#42220685)

I used two iShiny phones on T-Mobile prior to my current Android. You can't beat T-Mobile's $30 5GB prepaid plan.

They didn't want to make same mistakes others did. (5, Interesting)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about a year ago | (#42219801)

They are moving to a non-subsidized model, which is hot. As it stands you get your iPhone for $200 then end up paying $1400 extra in some cases for an overpriced 2 year contract. I bought my own phone and did this already on T-Mobile, I only pay $30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g") and 100 minutes of talk time, which is all I need.

Sprint especially made the mistake of just committing to a huge number of iPhones at a staggering price they must now subsidize. Will be interesting to see if people are still willing to pay the True Price for an iPhone (e.g. $600) versus maybe $450 for a high end Android phone.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (4, Informative)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42219883)

Legere mentioned offering the iPhone for $99 and then allowing customers to pay off the rest in monthly increments.

FTFA

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

duranaki (776224) | about a year ago | (#42219983)

Still, monthly increments imply that the user will still be aware of the cost of the phone. Unlike the bulk of US operators where different phones are subsidized at different rates, with the user left with the impression that all phones cost either $0, $99, or $199. In this case, I expect the user will see:

iPhone: $99 up front + $X/month for 24 months + Service Fee
iPhone: $600 up front + Service Fee
Nexus4: $299 up front + service Fee


And yes, I think that will create a significant change in customer behavior. At least at T-mobile.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

todrules (882424) | about a year ago | (#42220317)

Right. Plus, the customer can even put more down up front and pay less over the course of the 20 months. The customer can also pay off the installment plan early, too, which would also reduce their monthly bill. The other carriers won't let you do that.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

anagama (611277) | about a year ago | (#42220475)

When I bought my first Android phone at T-Mobile some years back (MyTouch 3g) I walked in totally ready to buy the phone outright and get on a no contract plan. When I told the sales person that was what I wanted to do, he said "cool" and then went on to say that if I wanted to, I could get the same no contract plan, and finance the phone at 0% interest for 18 or 20 months -- can't recall exactly but something less than 2 years. Obviously that is a better deal even then just buying the phone outright so that's what I did. The phone payments were just added to my bill. Anyway, when T-Mobile gets to financing iPhones, maybe it will be doing a similar 0% interest financing plan which, if it can be used with a no-contract plan, is a real no brainer.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (4, Informative)

rueger (210566) | about a year ago | (#42220057)

I only pay $30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g") and 100 minutes of talk time

Wow. In Canada, with Telus, $50 gets 1 gig of data, with the "option" of paying $25 for an extra 2 gigs. And Voicemail is an add-on for another $8 a month.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

xaxa (988988) | about a year ago | (#42220453)

And I just signed a 2-year contract for 1G data, some minutes (can't remember) and lots of texts for £6/month. US$10?

Admittedly, it's an awkward deal -- it's really £12/month, with 50% rebated by sending in copies of my bill (about 6 times over the two years), so it takes some time on my part. But I've done it twice before now, and it works.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

shellbeach (610559) | about a year ago | (#42221513)

12 pounds a month on Giffgaff gives you unlimited data, heaps of free calls and texts and no contract at all.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

TheSeatOfMyPants (2645007) | about a year ago | (#42221335)

Same in the US, especially for a prepaid smartphone BYOD -- I just spent a few months researching prepaid providers so I could switch, and T-Mo's $30 plan was the best for smartphone web access by far.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220115)

Will be interesting to see if people are still willing to pay the True Price for an iPhone (e.g. $600) versus maybe $450 for a high end Android phone.

A comparable Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S III) costs $600 as well (slight variations depending on where you get it). Android may have cheaper phones but those phones are not comparable to the iPhone 5. If they are comparable, they aren't (notably) cheaper.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

Jesse_vd (821123) | about a year ago | (#42220193)

Somebody hasn't heard of the flagship, $300 unlocked, Nexus 4

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

AncientPC (951874) | about a year ago | (#42220337)

Is the Nexus 4 comparable? The 16GB version is $350 off contract. A 16GB iPhone 5 is $650 off contract.

They have similar ppi resolution, Nexus 4 has a bigger screen. iPhone has better battery life.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220915)

The Nexus 4 also doesn't come with LTE. $300 is a lot to pay for that, but it might be worth it for some people.

I keep all of my music on my phone, and the 16GB maximum on the Nexus doesn't cut it. Can the Android music player play music directly off the SD card, including searching, creating/storing playlists, purchasing music and storing it on the SD, etc., or do you have to do something funky there and manually merge the on-board flash with the SD?

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about a year ago | (#42221091)

All Android phones can do that, and they're treated as normal file systems, as they should be. The problem is that the Nexus 4 does not have a removable SD card. Even though it doesn't advertise it, apparently it does have LTE though. Type in a sequence of characters on the phone and it turns it on. I'm really hoping the next batch still uses the same underlying hardware.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42221189)

My last MP3 player treated the music as a normal file system, and it was a royal pain to use. You can't search metadata that way without indexing the entire SD card.

Since the Nexus doesn't have more than 16GB of storage or supported LTE (there's a reason why they don't advertise it, that is HUGE feature), it's a non-starter for me, and not comparable to the iPhone.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220133)

Odd. My contract with Verizon was the same when I had a Droid as it was when I had an iPhone. I guess it burns some Slashdotters that they're charging the same with a phone no matter what you get... or if you even get one through your wireless provider.
 
In fact, if you look at the price guide for Verizon's Share Everything plans they don't specify iPhone. It's just listed as a smartphone.
 
Sounds like a bunch of hyperbole to me from people who can't stand the fact that, no, iPhone really doesn't cost anymore than owning any other phone. Such a bunch of zealots.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

future assassin (639396) | about a year ago | (#42220415)

>$30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g")

That's like seeing a hot looking hooker and when you get up close its a tranny. God I love those unlimited up to 5 gigs deals.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42220583)

>$30 a month for "unlimited" data (up top 5 gigs at "4g")

No, they have a true unlimited plan with no caps or throttling. With 500 minutes it's $59.99/month or $69.99/month if you want unlimited talk. The only thing is that it doesn't allow tethering.

Re:They didn't want to make same mistakes others d (1)

swb (14022) | about a year ago | (#42220709)

At least the tranny is hot and knows how to please you.

...in the US. (1)

gentryx (759438) | about a year ago | (#42219889)

T-Mobile has the iPhone since ages in other countries. For instance here in Germany you could get any iPhone from T-Mobile IIRC. Don't know why that was different in the US. Probably because Apple tried to pay them through the nose. But the smartphone market in Germany is very different: very fey iPhones, many many Androids.

Re:...in the US. (3, Informative)

TheNinjaroach (878876) | about a year ago | (#42219965)

T-Mobile doesn't have iPhone in the US because we have a highly fragmented spectrum for cell phones. T-Mobile uses GSM, which is compatible, but in the US it's on an entirely different set of frequencies that the iPhone doesn't support.

Re:...in the US. (4, Informative)

squiggleslash (241428) | about a year ago | (#42220221)

Kinda. AT&T has had the iPhone for ages so if that were the only problem...

The issue is the 3G version of GSM, UMTS, which T-Mobile, until now, has run on the AWS spectrum. (AT&T was running it on 800MHz Cellular and 1900Mhz PCS) iPhones don't support AWS.

T-Mobile is doing "spectrum refarming", adding 3G to its PCS frequencies. The interesting part of this is that this means an influx of iPhones shouldn't significantly affect users of better smartphones, as we'll still be able to use the AWS 3G (and in some cases, both AWS and PCS.)

Incorrect (2)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | about a year ago | (#42220329)

T-Mobile doesn't have iPhone in the US because we have a highly fragmented spectrum for cell phones. T-Mobile uses GSM, which is compatible, but in the US it's on an entirely different set of frequencies that the iPhone doesn't support.

That's not correct. T-Mobile uses the 1900 band in the USA and all the iPhones support that fine. It's trivial to find accounts of people with unlocked iPhones who currently use them on T-Mobile in the USA. T-Mobile doesn't have the iPhone in the USA because they were basically unwilling and perhaps unable to pay Apple's exorbitant prices to get permissions to sell it.

Re:...in the US. (1)

TrumpetPower! (190615) | about a year ago | (#42220393)

Then how is it that the top-left corner of my iPhone 4s says, “T-Mobile”?

I've had it for over a year. Bought an unlocked phone at an Apple store, stopped at the local T-Mobile store on my way home, oohed and aahed about it with the cute girl while she rummaged in the drawer for a micro-SIM, and made my first call on it in the parking lot before finishing the drive home.

It's with a fantastic pre-paid plan, too. I pay $2 / day on any day that I make even one phone call or transmit even one byte of network data, but everything is completely unlimited for the rest of that day. I telecommute, so I rarely use it for calls and even more rarely for data (thank to ubiquitous WiFi), which means I'm spending about as much over the course of a year as most people do in a single month. And I own the phone outright, with no lease or contract or any other restriction.

All on T-Mobile.

Cheers,

b&

Re:...in the US. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220455)

You conveniently omit the fact that 3G data doesn't work with T-Mobile -- or if it does, it only recently started working as T-Mobile has been scrambling to reallocate bandwidth to the 1900mhz spectrum.

Re:...in the US. (2)

jbolden (176878) | about a year ago | (#42221069)

T-Mobile abroad and T-Mobile in the USA have little in common other than a brand name. They used to be more related but they have forked.

Moving away from subsidies (4, Insightful)

earlzdotnet (2788729) | about a year ago | (#42219907)

What's mentioned in TFA, but not TFS is the news they include that they will be moving away from subsidies. This I think is an awesome improvement! Think about it, "I can pay $30 less per month, put that into a savings account and every 2 years get a good phone... or I can get a good phone now and pay an extra $50 per month for a worse plan and if I mess up it ruins my credit" They mention changing subsidies to a "payment plan" type of thing, which is really what it should be considered. I completely welcome this change.

As a result, they provide their phones with minimal margins because they'll make it up in monthly fees(for the service). I bought my wife a phone with T-Mobile and I was amazed I could get a relatively decent Android phone for $200. Try finding a decent smart phone from another carrier at that price. Also, her plan is flat $50/month with no contract, and unlimited everything. Last time I looked at AT&T, the equivalent plan was $110/month and a similar low-mid-range phone was $450 without a contract

Re:Moving away from subsidies (2)

burningcpu (1234256) | about a year ago | (#42220621)

I fully support your message. I live in Tucson, Az, and recently switched from Sprint to T-mobile.

I am much, much happier with T-mobile than I was with Sprint. The big motivator for me getting a smartphone was the ability to stream Pandora while jogging and biking, but with Sprint, even in wide open outdoors situations in the heart of Tucson, I rarely was able to stream at even the lowest quality settings. Tethering my desktop while inside the house was out of the question. Speedtest.net results typically were less than dialup speeds, and that's when it was working enough for speedtest to load.

My wife had the same phone and service and had the same issues. I spent many hours messing on the phone with Sprint, and really just got the run around. I sort of gave up messing with it until the contract ran it's course and then switched to T-Mobile. What really tweaked my ass was the $10/month*phone 4g tax, which is absolutely absent in Az. They had promised 4g as coming very soon when I started my contract in August of 2010, and it still wasn't implemented in August of 2012 when I canceled my service.

My bill per phone dropped from $87 a month to $60 a month, and I'm not on a contract. I'm running on 4g, and I'm running it everywhere I go, including the bunker that is the building I work in.

The best part is how friendly T-mobile has seemed to be to their customers. They support rooting, and because they use a sim card rather than the shit Sprint puts you through, activating phones is ridiculously easy in comparison. I bought a used Galaxy SII from Craigslist, rooted and put cyanogen on it, and didn't have any issues joining the network. It just worked.

Data slurpers (1)

tronbradia (961235) | about a year ago | (#42219915)

Keep that pack of rabid data slurpers off my carrier! (and get the kids off my lawn while you're at it)

Re:Data slurpers (1)

OffaMyLawn (1885682) | about a year ago | (#42219987)

This was the first thought I had. How long before they can no longer claim to offer "unlimited" data?

Re:Data slurpers (2)

Revotron (1115029) | about a year ago | (#42220359)

As long as they want, assuming they don't take on the accounting practices of the bigger carriers. Companies like Verizon and AT&T make a ridiculous profit on their data service, yet they cry over losing even one cent. Here's my math to back it up.

I was bored one day and decided to do some digging on those data overages the cell phone carriers love to charge. $.10/MB seems like a fairly common rate, but what people don't realize is, that works out to about $33,000 per Mbps per month. The amount of data you can send in one month at a rate of 1Mbps is about 330GB, or 330,000MB. At the overage rate of $.10/MB, that's $33,000 a month. That's a new BMW, every damn month.

I know what you're thinking, though. "Well, it's a penalty. It's supposed to be ridiculously high..." Yeah, that's understandable, but it's not much higher than their normal data rates. Taking Verizon's plans as an example, 1GB is $50/month. 50,000 cents divided by 1024MB is $.48/MB. But that's unfair because that includes unlimited minutes and text messages, so let's consider this - their 2GB plan is $10 more. That's $10/GB. 10000 cents divided by 1024MB is $.094/MB.

9.4 cents per MB regular rate.
10 cents per MB at overage rates.
Either way, we're paying $33,000/Mbps for cellular data service. Do you know what the going rate is for IP transit in the telco industry? At bulk rates, $1-2/Mbps.

tl;dr: T-Mobile can play the Unlimited Data game as long as they want. The cost to them is low, they just choose not to fuck their customers as hard as the big guys do.

Re:Data slurpers (2)

Revotron (1115029) | about a year ago | (#42220557)

Made a typo. Ignore my extra zero. "1000 cents" and ".94 cents" respectively when comparing the normal data rate. Still ridiculous at $3300/Mbps. Would you cry over losing a slight edge on a 1000x markup?

And? (0)

kernelpanicked (882802) | about a year ago | (#42219953)

I'm sure all 10 of the people who haven't figured out Android is better (*including my girlfriend) will be thrilled.

* She's just waiting on her contract to run out actually. Sitting next to her with a new shiny LG Venice on a real unlimited plan changed her perspective on stuff.

Re:And? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220111)

Oddly enough there are people who have dropped Android in favor of the iPhone. Ran into a few girls at a movie sneak peek who were bragging about dropping their android phones in favor of iPhones.

Re:And? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220561)

My past 2 primary phones have been a Motorola Droid and an iPhone 4. I loved my Droid more the first year, and then it went kaput with lots of stability and software issues. The iPhone has been more stable and consistent. I develop enterprise apps for Android, and it works very well for that because the environment is tightly controlled (limited number of models supported, and known apps), but for a personal phone I'm sticking with the iPhone.

A certain number of customers (2)

game kid (805301) | about a year ago | (#42219977)

T-Mobile USA CEO John Legere said while speaking at the Deutsche Telekom conference Thursday that it will carry the iPhone and will offer it in a different way. 'What was missing? A certain number of customers wouldn't come to the store if we didn't have the iPhone,' Legere said.

Now I wonder if any of those customers acted like this [youtube.com] .

Great! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42219981)

Now if I could make a phone call longer than two minutes without being dropped...

No Subsidies?! (1)

nthitz (840462) | about a year ago | (#42220097)

The summary doesn't even mention what's different about T-Mobiles plans! No subsidies to buy the phone up front (so you'll pay 600-850 for your iPhone, depending on the model) and this (should) result in cheaper monthly bills. I hope it works out!

Re:No Subsidies?! (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | about a year ago | (#42220263)

They will let you pay it off over the course of two years though.

So the price is really the same just a discount once the phone is paid for.

Re:No Subsidies?! (2)

todrules (882424) | about a year ago | (#42220375)

True, but there are a few benefits that the other carriers don't have.
1. You can pay a higher down payment to reduce your monthly payment.
2. You can pay off your balance early to reduce your monthly payment.
3. You can upgrade at any time.

Re:No Subsidies?! (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42220633)

Read the article. You would pay around $99 upfront then pay off the rest of the balance in chunks per month and you still get the same value plan as if you had brought an off contract phone. So you're getting the upfront savings of subsidizing but over the life of service you're still saving hundreds over Verizon, AT&T, etc.

Too late... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220103)

The world has moved to Windows Phone.

Re:Too late... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220187)

My world has moved to Windows Phone.

FTFY. Outside your Redmond cubical, though, lurks a different world...

Building out their system (1)

niftymitch (1625721) | about a year ago | (#42220175)

Frogs jumping over frogs and toads.

T-mobile just happens to have better coverage here.
If you get an unlocked iPhone they can give you edge
coverage. I have started using an old Samsung 3G
phone for voice. Data is WiFi for now but I can tell
you that as soon as I am contract free I will be looking
hard at changing 100% from the A&someting company.

Smart phones are not smart choices for folk that want a
phone

There goes my blazing-fast 4G... (2, Insightful)

barlevg (2111272) | about a year ago | (#42220213)

Now I gotta share my mobile bandwidth with Siri-using morons ("Siri, is that rain?"). Also guessing my days of unlimited data are numbered.

Re:There goes my blazing-fast 4G... (1)

lightenergy (2597715) | about a year ago | (#42220423)

It's going to be OK and they aren't all morons. Why don't you hog your share of the bandwidth and use Siri yourself. It's a really good thing when you need to get a message out faster than you have time to type it. The accuracy is very good. You can use an unlocked iPhone with T-Mobile today.

Re:There goes my blazing-fast 4G... (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42220659)

No, you're not. They're refarming their 1900mhz AWS to support the iPhone. So they are adding spectrum to their 4g service to improve speeds.

IDGAF, and you shouldn't either! (1)

ilikenwf (1139495) | about a year ago | (#42220243)

This is a freaking ad, and it's obvious now that someone at Apple is paying one of the editors (same goes for Microsoft), or they both have someone they employ who is an editor...can we please see stories that are actually news and not freaking ads, please?!?!???!?

T-Mobile also ending subsidies (1)

gelfling (6534) | about a year ago | (#42220311)

T-Mobile is also going to end handset subsidies which translates into everyone paying MSRP for all handsets all the time. The upside of this is that it will kill most handset sales since few of them are even laughably close in value to the full retail price. b

Re:T-Mobile also ending subsidies (1)

Desler (1608317) | about a year ago | (#42220681)

Wrong. They are letting you pay off the cost of the phone via small monthly payments so you don't have to pay full MSRP upfront unless you want to.

You can use an unlocked iPhone with T-Mobile today (1)

lightenergy (2597715) | about a year ago | (#42220353)

You buy a sim card, stick it in, pick a generic pay as you go plan with data service and off you go. I have an all you can eat plan for $50/month. I'm guessing that this announcement has something to do with the elimination of that low cost option. so that all we'll have are the same options offered by AT&T and Verizon, i.e. a locked iPhone for initially less money with a contract. If that's the case then this is just bad news. Hopefully they'll keep the pay as you go with an unlocked phone option.

I'm switching to iOS (1)

andymadigan (792996) | about a year ago | (#42220389)

I've got an Android tablet on T-mobile (Galaxy Tab 7 Plus). I've had it for about a year now. Before that I had the Droid Triumph, the Droid, and the G1. For all of these except the G1, I've had to find custom firmware. The pre-installed, unremovable shovelware is annoying, but the lack of updates is unacceptable. The iPhone 3GS was released 3.5 years ago and will run iOS 6, no waiting for the carrier to release the update.

Even with Samsung, supposedly a good Android manufacturer, my device hasn't received any major update since its release in August 2011. If I didn't root and update the device I would be stuck with an OS from July 2011. Even the custom firmware (derivative of CM, which doesn't officially support my device) has its issues, including Wifi problems.

Then there's the lack of accessories, I got a 7" tablet because I thought the larger screen would make for a better GPS device in my car. My tablet was advertised along side a "navigation dock" for this purpose. The dock was never released. It also won't charge off a computer's USB, unless the tablet is off. This applies even if you pay extra for their special "charge and sync" cable which Samsung claims will allow the device to charge while tethered (sharing the data connection) with your laptop.

As soon as Google Maps for iOS 6 comes out, I'm switching to an iPad Mini. Looks like the AT&T version should work fine on T-mobile. I really liked Android, but it's far too rough around the edges for its maturity.

Re:I'm switching to iOS (1)

tobiasly (524456) | about a year ago | (#42220601)

This is the problem that Nexus devices are designed to solve. You get updates directly from Google as soon as they're released; no carrier to get in the way. (Well, unless you're on a CDMA carrier, since they still withhold the signed CDMA drivers. Which is why Google has stopped releasing CDMA versions of Nexus devices).

So buy a Nexus device directly from Google Play, hook it up to an uber-cheap T-Mobile prepaid plan, and you'll be up-to-date for as long as your hardware can physically run the latest version of Android.

Re:I'm switching to iOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42220789)

Until the Google decides to end it. They do that a lot...change their minds and never finish anything.

Really its what i dont find appealing most about Google. They have no focus and just throw stuff on the wall to see what sticks.

Re:I'm switching to iOS (1)

andymadigan (792996) | about a year ago | (#42221037)

That would address most of the problems I have, except for the lack of accessories.

There's one other reason I want to get an iOS device. There's an app called Coaster that's made for iOS and Android. However, the app developer blocked it from Android tablet devices. I don't have a smartphone, just a tablet with data. The app will work on an iPad Mini, but even after I tried to hack my tablet to run smartphone-only software, it refused to install. I tried contacting the developer to no avail. So yes, apps are important.

LTE swtich chaos..no thanks (1)

cockpitcomp (1575439) | about a year ago | (#42220495)

They are switching to LTE, but selling non-LTE phones. And, my understanding is they are pushing current users onto only one of their frequency bands to make room. Maybe I'll be back when my new Verizon plan runs out in 2 years and things are settled.

Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#42221407)

I was a T-Mo customer for several years. I waited and I waited. Finally I gave up and switched to Sprint.

I'll be curious to see what their pricing structure is for unlimited, if they even offer truly unlimited.

And they'd have to beat Sprint by a wide margin to get me to switch; I'm not talking about $2 or $10. I'm currently paying about $230/month for four lines. I'm thinking under $200 for four lines. (And I have to wait for my Sprint contract to expire.)

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