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Parrot Drives Robotic Buggy

Soulskill posted about a year and a half ago | from the polly-wanna-cylon dept.

Robotics 182

grrlscientist writes "Proving that robots aren't just for people any longer, an African grey parrot, Pepper, has learned to drive a robot that was specially designed for him. Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things, now manipulates the joystick on his riding robot to guide it to where ever he wishes to go. This robotic 'bird buggy' was the brainchild of his human companion, Andrew Gray, a 29-year-old electrical and computer engineering graduate student at the University of Florida."

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182 comments

But how well he plays WoW (0, Offtopic)

PopAndShop (2790549) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220141)

I could really use some wow-playing carrots on my new wow gold business.

Awesome (2)

kc67 (2789711) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220157)

I now want a parrot.

Re:Awesome (4, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220211)

It's like having a 2 to 5 year old that lives longer than you do.

That said, they are damn smart birds.

Re:Awesome (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220247)

I wanted to brag about my car-driving dog ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_rWWWGnKfY [youtube.com] ), but a buggy driving parrot can't be topped.

Re:Awesome (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220977)

Is that really your dog in the video? I keep parrots (although not at the moment) and they are my favorite pets, but I actually think a dog driving a car tops the parrot driving a cart. It would be hilarious if dogs could get driver licenses and drive around everywhere.

Re:Awesome (4, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220849)

When the parrot cuts you off in traffic, does he give you... the bird?

Re:Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220665)

Evreything gets -1 these days. Are moderators even reading the comments?

What if someone has a kid and he's bright enough to actually read and understand most of the articles? Being a kid, you know, that would be a normal post (for him/her). Moderators seem to have higher standards than me. OTOH, I get -1 pretty often over here, so it's somewhat comforting that it's not personal against me...

Hmm, I bet parrot as moderators would do a better job!

Re:Awesome (1)

cusco (717999) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220777)

Posting as AC you start out at 0, a single down-mod puts you in the negative. Try logging in some time.

Re:Awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221127)

Right, kc67 was logged in and got modded down for a seemingly inoffensive post...

ironic... (4, Insightful)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220229)

...that the same human who had the birds wings clipped so it can't move has had to build him a fucking go kart so he's able to move around again.

Fuck you, Andrew Gray, and the horse you rode in on. IF you haven't clipped its hooves at the knee, that is!

Re:ironic... (3, Informative)

Duds (100634) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220245)

You can report his site as it's google hosted on the grounds of cruelty to animals.

Re:ironic... (0)

Tastecicles (1153671) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220257)

mod up.

Re:ironic... (3, Insightful)

able1234au (995975) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220687)

"So cruel to birds" he says munching on his KFC. "Pass me another bucket of wings!"

Re:ironic... (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220843)

"So cruel to birds" he says munching on his KFC. "Pass me another bucket of wings!"

Hey, those fuckers were deep-fried humanely, you insensitive clod!

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221097)

"So cruel to birds" he says, as his mommy walks him to the short bus.

It's a bird with a few feathers trimmed. It's not like they're beating it with a stick. Go be pissed off at something that's actually cruel, you pompous douche.

Re:ironic... (4, Insightful)

newcastlejon (1483695) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220343)

For the sake of argument, is it really that cruel? It doesn't seem as bad to me as docking a puppy's tail; primary feathers grow back, don't they?

Mind you, a friend of mine had a beautiful white parrot when I was younger and he never had much trouble with it breaking his stuff. Perhaps instead of altering a pet to one's home it's better to alter the home to suit the pet.

Re:ironic... (4, Insightful)

cusco (717999) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220847)

Grey parrots are 1) one of the most intelligent species of birds known, 2) one of the most destructive species of birds known. They're probably exceeded only by the New Zealand kea (which can remove every plastic part on the exterior of a car except for the tires in an hour) in destructiveness.

I remember having to ferret-proof a house, I can only imagine what a pain in the ass it would have been if the critter had been able to fly too.

Re:ironic... (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221047)

Why do you say greys are more destructive than other parrots? I would think macaws would be much more destructive. I have owned greys and also a blue and gold macaw and they seemed about equally destructive to me. You just have to parrot proof your house as much as possible. From what I have seen I think a Kea is much more destructive than most parrots. And they are omnivorous too! They used to be killed for killing sheep!

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220295)

Agreed. Why even have a bird if you don't want it to fly.

Re:ironic... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220357)

Grey's are large birds, too large to really fly in an average house. It may not be able to fly between rooms due to narrow hallways and clutter anyway.

I have a couple of smaller birds, fully flighted and they're not really happy about needing to fly to chase you. Often they'll scream at you instead.

Also you guys might temper your anger realizing that wing clipping is temporary. You clip their wings once a month or so, because all you're doing is cutting the outermost 4 flight feathers back. These fall out and grow back (trimmed or not). For most birds this is enough to make flying very difficult.

Re:ironic... (4, Insightful)

Duds (100634) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220553)

If they're too big for the average house, don't KEEP them in an average house.

And how is it being temporary any better, that just means you're doing it more often.

Re:ironic... (0)

nschubach (922175) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220729)

By that logic we should also not cut our hair, but instead buy bigger houses every few years to accommodation the growth and extra space needed... Also, fingernails and toenails. The feathers, while being an important aspect of flight, are not important for the life of the animal enclosed in a home and it does not hurt for them to be cut.

Re:ironic... (2)

Duds (100634) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220895)

Cutting my hair does not impede my primary means of locomotion.

Re:ironic... (1)

AwesomeMcgee (2437070) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221061)

Because you're a train?

Re:ironic... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220581)

Usually just one wing.

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220653)

You can cut the tips of people's fingers off and they'll grow back. That would make it difficult for the person to type. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it not cruel.

Have a pet for a friend. Don't get a pet if you want a trophy and/or slave.

Re:ironic... (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220903)

no it is more like cutting the nails on the human. the feather like hair and fingernails are dead tissue, they grow back and it does not hurt the bird where cutting the finger tips off oh the human as you suggested.

Re:ironic... (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220921)

You can cut the tips of people's fingers off and they'll grow back

Wow, what a fucking moron.

Re:ironic... (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220945)

The part past your fingernail will.

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220893)

My parents-in-law also have a grey, unclipped. He flys everwhere in the house, it's quite impressive. Flying through open doors, landing on tables/chairs/shoulders.

Re:ironic... (4, Informative)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220961)

Actually greys have no problem at all flying in the average house. I have had greys in 400-600 sqft apartments and they can fly just fine through all the different rooms. Also a grey can walk nearly as fast as that cart can move. In addition to wings they do have perfectly good legs and can cross an average sized bedroom in seconds on foot. After having kept clipped birds and birds with full flight feathers I would never keep them clipped ever again. I love when a bird can fly to my shoulder whenever he wants and it's such a wonderful ability that they were born with. Even if they can only fly indoors I still think it's better than nothing.

Re:ironic... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221025)

I'm calling BS on that. I own a Solomon Islands Eclectus female, which is the same size as an African Grey (both being medium-sized parrots). She is now 12 years old and has never once had her wings clipped. I've lived in apartments and houses of all different sizes. She never had a problem flying from one room to another, but she only does so in order to find me.

The times I really worried about her flying was when I lived in a big house with big, tall windows in the living room. I was always afraid she'd smack into one. After all, I had cleaned up at least 6 crows and doves that had flown smack into them from the outside and didn't survive.

Re:ironic... (0, Troll)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220403)

I agree, this is disgusting, "Hey we clipped your wings but now you can use the awkward cart I built to scuttle across the floor.

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221223)

"I agree, this is disgusting, "Hey we clipped your wings but now you can use the awkward cart I built to scuttle across the floor."

He could at least have given the buggy a more wheelchairy body.

Re:ironic... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220411)

Just FYI, guys, it's not cruelty. You don't actually cut their wings, just their feathers, and you have to keep cutting them because they grow back all the time.

But, I do agree that this is totally unnecessary. Parrots are very smart, can be trained, and are fucking birds - totally capable of moving around without a crappy golf cart. Don't clip him, just train him to not do whatever it is he was doing wrong. Plus they have beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue. Mine's been really quiet since I got him, though. I think he's pining for the fjords.

Re:ironic... (2)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220431)

My birds have never had clipped wings and had no issue flying in the house. They prefer to walk, actually.

Re:ironic... (3, Funny)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220937)

Just FYI, guys, it's not cruelty. You don't actually cut their wings, just their feathers

Huh.


That might explain why I got fired from Petco...

Re:ironic... (1)

nospam007 (722110) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221243)

"Plus they have beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue"

Aren't those the ones that are always pining for the fjords?

Re:ironic... (4, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220541)

Andrew Gray, and the horse you rode in on. IF you haven't clipped its hooves at the knee, that is!

It's not the wings that are clipped, just some feathers to keep it from hurting itself inside the house.

We can disagree about whether or not any animal should be kept by humans, but clipping the feathers of a parrot so it doesn't hurt itself flying around the house don't really qualify as enormously cruel. Certainly not as "cruel" as forcibly neutering a dog or cat. Probably not as cruel as riding a horse.

There is an argument about the lifespan of the parrot, though. He's going to live on average about 20% longer as a pet than he would as a free bird. We could ask the parrot whether he'd rather have some feathers clipped and live in a safe home with abundant food and no predators (plus a very cool scooter) or in the wild where his life will be much shorter, but he's not talking.

Or maybe he is talking, since he's a parrot...

Re:ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220723)

Does any animal even have the capacity to contemplate the abstract concepts of wilderness and civilization, and their comparison?

Re:ironic... (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221155)

African greys do [pbs.org] .

Re:ironic... (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221079)

I believe the justification for clipping a parrot's flight feathers is to prevent him from escaping not from flying into things. Greys at least are pretty damn smart and fly into things about as often as most of us walk into walls. Just don't let him fly when he's drunk.

Re:ironic... (1)

Asmodae (1155077) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221165)

Until you consider things like windows and ceiling fans. Even smart birds have trouble with some obstacles, and it only takes one accident to do serious damage.

Re:ironic... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220647)

In fairness, we have an African Grey that does not have his wings clipped, (I am generally opposed to clipping wings) and when he gets going he's as much a hazard to himself as to our things. (Things are replaceable. It's not something we worry about a lot. But we are concerned that he will injure himself.) He's actually reluctant to fly, preferring to be carried around instead.

Re:ironic... (1)

0111 1110 (518466) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221141)

Well, like us, they are all individuals. My greys were superb fliers and definitely prefered flying to walking. They only walked when the distances were very short. although sometimes they just seem to feel like walking instead of flying. I never saw them get into any trouble due to their flying everywhere instead of walking. We hurt ourselves too when we first learn to walk, but our parents don't restrict us to wheelchairs or ask us to crawl everywhere instead of walking upright. Of course I'm sure parrots do injure themselves from time to time when they fly inside a house. It is certainly more difficult and dangerous than flying outside. Well except that there are no predators inside. Well not usually.

Re:ironic... (2)

ethanms (319039) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220833)

mod up...

Agreed, I think it's pretty lousy to have these types of animals as pets--there is a reason birds go crazy when left alone in cages, they are too intelligent and not psychologically suited for domesticated life. Just because it's small enough to not seriously injure humans does not mean it's acceptable or suited to become a pet.

Cats & Dogs have been domesticated over hundreds/thousands of generations... even today there are breeds of dogs that are clearly not suited for living mostly indoors--so would paralyzing that breed of dog (even if in a painless and temporary manner) not be considered cruel? These birds belong in their natural habitats, not in people's suburban homes...

Now if this bird had a wing injury this would be a totally different story, he's giving it a life it could not have... but that is not really the case here, this bird was forced to live a life in a cage when it could otherwise be out in nature.

Polly (1)

techcodie (1140645) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220239)

want a crack up?

Seriously though, this has got to be the most understandable and easy to use interface out there.

My nephew wants one now.

Cruelty (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220253)

First we break your leg, then we build you a wheelchair.

Cruelty to animals (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220261)

Andre Grey, who has clipped the parrot's wings to prevent it from flying, is a fucking asshole prick who thinks animals are toys rather than living creatures. Shame on Slashdot for promoting this trashy article.

Andrew Greg should have his own wings involuntarily clipped - his hands should be surgically removed and disposed of. Then we can see how smart he is designing his own robotic appendages. This scum is no better than those people who de-claw cats and removed their dogs' tails. I hope he gets mauled to death by a bear the next time he goes camping.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Cruelty to animals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220299)

There's a difference between clipping (where the flight feathers are cut) and pinioning where part of the wing is amputated. This says "clip". Don't get your panties in a knot unless you know more.

Re:Cruelty to animals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220425)

Intentionally and involuntarily limiting an animal's means of motion is still cruelty. Say, for example, the bird wanders outside and is attacked by a cat. The bird cannot fly away and cannot run fast enough to escape the cat, dying a frightening death being poked and ripped to shreds. Not even its fancy little buggy would save it from that fate. De-clawing a cat would limit its means from climbing a tree to escape from a big dog. Both arrogant and unnecessary actions.

So yeah, your little explanation has failed to straighten out my panties. And the guy still deserves to be mauled by a bear.

-- Ethanol-fueled

Re:Cruelty to animals (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220449)

Mauled by a bear? Have some fucking perspective will you?

Re:Cruelty to animals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220481)

Declawing a cat is totally different. You pretty much take a part of their feet along with their nails. Clipping wings though, is totally harmless, it is the exact equivalent of humans clipping their nails (and they grow back exactly like nails). And it does not get the bird into harm in anyway, alteast if you dont let the bird out on its own or something.

Re:Cruelty to animals (5, Informative)

lightBearer (2692183) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220593)

With larger birds such as African Grey's, there is a really high risk of injury to the bird if they are allowed to grow up flying inside a house. Young birds do not understand glass for instance, and will attempt to fly into it, ultimately doing harm to themselves. To offset this, the non-permanent wing clipping is employed to prevent them from taking flight. This doesn't prevent gliding, however, so they can still leap safely off ledges to the floor to get around. Once they're older, you have to take into account that the nearly or fully grown bird has never flown, so you keep clipping the wings as they don't know how to use them.

I've never owned a Parrot but I grew up with one and my parents opted to not clip his wings. The net result was a lot of snapped feathers and a bird with neurological damage from running into things full tilt. Not pretty.

Re:Cruelty to animals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220663)

Remember, this is coming from the website that always badmouths Apple for having too restrictions on their devices "for your own safety". I love /.

Re:Cruelty to animals (3, Funny)

nschubach (922175) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220779)

Heaven forbid you have a giant mirror in your house. We had parakeets that would go ape shit over the other birds and try to fly to them. We ended up clipping their feathers just so they wouldn't hurt themselves on the mirror.

Re:Cruelty to animals (1)

Genda (560240) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220485)

Exactly, this is like clipping your kitties claws so it doesn't turn your furniture into confetti. Animal experts will tell you that allowing your cat to have sharp claws will promote its self confidence (knowing it can defend itself) but also promotes damage to furniture, injury to people and the spread of a number of diseases like cat-scratch fever (yeah, I know the album, but really there is a disease too.)

If you have a large parrot, it can do a significant amount of damage, they are strong birds with big wings. Most folks will trim the flight feathers (done by a trained professional so as not to hurt the animal) so the bird can't fly and it stops trying to do anything but walk. This might seem cruel to prevent a bird from flying, but it does in no way harm the bird (the feathers fall out all by themselves and are replaced with perfect new feathers just as your hair falls out and is replaced by perfectly good new hair.) The only question really is if a person should have a highly intelligent animal caged up in a human house as a pet. That's a moral question I have mixed feelings about especially considering that a lot of these animals are now seriously endangered in the wild.

Re:Cruelty to animals (1)

TexVex (669445) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220655)

It doesn't take any special training. You just gently extend the wing, extend the flight feathers, and cut about 2/3 of the length off the four longest feathers. Just don't cut to the quick!

Clipping the flight feathers doesn't actually stop them from flying. It just makes it very difficult for them to gain altitude. Clipped birds can still make short flights or flutter safely to the ground from any height, but they also can't fly into a ceiling fan if they get spooked.

Re:Cruelty to animals (0)

pmontra (738736) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220691)

My answer to your question is that parrots are birds, they are meant to fly. In your kitten analogy this is like tying their legs, not clipping their claws. If you have to clip the feathers of a parrot to keep it into your home then you shouldn't have a parrot in your home. Leave them where they live with their siblings.

The difference is semantics here, though (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220543)

Don't get your panties in a knot unless you know more.

Well, I'm not GP but I am a parrot owner so I'd like to "get my panties knot".

Removing a parrot's main form of movement is comparable to keeping a dog on a leash in one corner of the house, all the time. What's cruel is removing their ability to fly and after that it's just semantics whether you clipped their wings or feathers. Removing a parrot's ability to fly and forcing them to move only where human decides they should move, when human decides they should move there, is a horrible thing to do to animals as intelligent and independent as parrots. It also tells about very twisted attitude towards the pet: Anyone who considers taking a parrot and does some research (and you really should research as they tend to live many years or even many decades) learns that they do tend to chew on stuff. If your reaction to that isn't "I'll have to come up with enough toys for him to chew that he doesn't touch much else" or "I'll have to study positive reinforcement a bit and train him" or "I'll have to come up with a way to keep some things out of his sight" or "Okay, I can't have a pet like that" but rather "Oh, I'll just clip his wings", there is something very wrong.

My parrots fly freely around the house whenever I'm awake and at home (when I'm asleep or at work, I have to keep them in cages for their own safety). They don't tend to ruin anything too valuable though they do occasionally ruin book covers, photo frames and the like... which I knew they would do when I got them six years ago.

For the record, the practice of clipping parrot wings (which means clipping the wing feathers) isn't really alive in many countries anymore (here in Finland it certainly isn't recommended by either of the large pet bird associations).

Re:Cruelty to animals (2)

mybadluck22 (750599) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220829)

People limit pets' movement all the time. Dogs go on leashes or are stuck inside the house. Same with cats, often. We have 2 rabbits. They have to stay inside their pen when not accompanied by humans. Our tortoise has to stay inside its terrarium. Our fish may not swim in the ocean. I'm sure the rabbits would love to run around outside or even all over the house chewing on whatever they can, but it's not safe for them (predators, cars, electrocution), and it's not safe for our stuff. So maybe you're saying nobody should keep pets, but that's a different argument.

Animal Cruelty (-1, Troll)

kentrel (526003) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220267)

Nice toy, but fuck anyone who clips a wild bird's wings just to make it a more convenient pet. For thousands of years mankind has looked at birds and wished he could fly like a bird. Now that we've mastered flight some fuckers want to take that away from the birds.

oblig (1)

Bearded Frog (1562519) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220281)

I for one welcome our new buggy riding African Grey Parrot overlords...

Amen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220369)

I for one welcome our new buggy riding African Grey Parrot overlords...

And they'll drive better than most people.

One angry bird (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220301)

It's just one step toward him being able to pilot a helicopter. And then the revenge for the wing-clipping begins...

Fuck the owner (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220315)

first he clips the wings of a free bird, and then he builds the cart to *showcase* his skills.

Like, if someone broke his legs and build him a joystick wheelchair and posted the video, oh I am sure he would be oh so thankful.

fuck you moron.

Re:Fuck the owner (2)

godel_56 (1287256) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220383)

Like, if someone broke his legs and build him a joystick wheelchair and posted the video, oh I am sure he would be oh so thankful.

I can see both sides. Without his wings being clipped he would never be allowed outside, and escape would be a constant worry. Caged birds are dead meat on the outside.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220459)

Do keep in mind this isn't a finch though. Greys are attached to their family.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220487)

So its totally ok to limit someone's freedom of movement for their own protection?

Ummm... yes. A very resounding yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220805)

...Yeah. Yeah it is. Are you fucking retarded?!? Like no, seriously... are you mentally handicapped. That was by far the most idiotic, what I assume you meant to be rhetorical, question I've read in a very long time. The sheer fact that I'm taking the time to type this instead of just shaking my head at the stupidity speaks wonders in and of itself.

God help you if you ever have kids. Y'know, those baby gates that block off the stairs are there for a reason. Same with why playpens exist. Or seatbelts. Or life preservers (those hinder natural swimming movement). Training wheels on bikes? Mountain climbing harnesses? Hell, mountain climbing anything? Virtually any outdoor sports equipment? Or FUCKING GODDAMN ANYTHING THAT PROTECTS YOU! ESPECIALLY WITH KIDS AND PETS!

Holy christ, I hope to god you just had a brain fart when you posted that and saw the idiocy afterwards, because seriously, what the fuck are you doing on Slashdot of all places if you're actually that stupid?

Re:Ummm... yes. A very resounding yes. (3, Interesting)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220995)

...Yeah. Yeah it is. Are you fucking retarded?!? Like no, seriously... are you mentally handicapped.

Anger aside, this is actually a very valid, important thing to mention.

Case in point - a few months ago, a 17-year-old autistic boy was struck and killed by a car. it was 2 AM, and he was sitting in the middle of the street just past a low hill, which made him impossible for the driver to see until it was too late.

When asked why their autistic son was sitting in the middle of a public street at 2 o' clock in the morning, the parents responded, "we always let him do what he wants."

Incidentally, the parents are attempting to sue the driver for - brace yourselves - negligence.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

nschubach (922175) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220813)

One is permanently breaking the legs of a creature and the other is clipping something that can grow back... If you somehow think those two events are in any way the same, I feel sorry for you.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

cusco (717999) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220905)

Do you let your dog wander around in the street? Loose dogs in my neighborhood end up dead on the freeway very quickly, and loose cats become owl and coyote food. You're damn right we limit their freedom of movement.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

masternerdguy (2468142) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220919)

Thank you for confirming what I've suspected today: It is OK to limit someone's movement as long as it doesn't involve limiting their computer. :)

Re:Fuck the owner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220923)

If this *someone* is in some form of custody, rather than being a independent individual, sure. You don't let the mentally ill or undeveloped outside on their own. Consider pets as "mentally undeveloped". There's nothing to prepare them for what's outside. Same category as children, who need to be supervised while they learn the outside. You also don't want any of these to mess up the inside while they're in there (that's why you have small children "trapped" in cots).

But go on, let every one of these loose and see what happens. Give them the vote, and other rights, while you're at it. I want a parrot for president :)

Re:Fuck the owner (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220735)

Man, lotta PETA supporters or something on /. today. Are you against neutering cats and dogs too?

1. It's not a "free bird". A free bird would be one that's outside in the trees. This is a domesticated bird in a house. But I assume you just threw the "free" part in as an emotional word of some sort to get people onto your side anyway.
2. Clipping the wings is exactly NOTHING like breaking the legs. Since it's only temporarily trimming the end feathers, it's more akin to clipping a cat's nails. It stops the cat from gripping the ground when running, so therefore it must be cruel. If a bird that large were allowed to fly about freely inside, it'd likely do more damage to itself than to objects.
3. Before you even think about talking about declawing, just stop with that horribly incorrect analogy already. Clipped feathers grow back, removing the top knuckle of the cat's paws doesn't. And no, my cat isn't declawed, that's cruel.
4. You're an idiot, and god help you if you ever own a pet.

I just took a cone off my cat from him having had surgery. Are advocating that I should have left the cone off and let him chew away at his stitches instead, because the cone isn't natural, and hinders him?

Not all things people do to pets are for the sake of cruelty. In fact, I would argue that the vast, VAST majority of things we do for pets is because we love them, and it's better for them.

Re:Fuck the owner (1)

iplayfast (166447) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220783)

If I had Mod points you would be +1 obvious :)

Re:Fuck the owner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221011)

I appreciate the sentiment, but unfortunately I can only post as an AC due to being unable to log in while at work. Username Kabuthunk for what it's worth.

I for one... (1)

toygeek (473120) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220365)

Welcome our new Robotic Parrot Overlords!

Arms Race (3, Informative)

decipher_saint (72686) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220407)

You know what this means right?

Cats with roller skates.

Re:Arms Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220851)

jet powered roller skates!

Re:Arms Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221245)

Ah yes but dogs on skate boards will win that.

no such luck (4, Funny)

the_other_one (178565) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220473)

I tried t get my Norwegian Blue to drive a buggy but it just sits there and does nothing.

Re:no such luck (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220503)

It's merely pinin' for a Ford!

Re:no such luck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220889)

its a racer-x-parrot.

Re:no such luck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42221051)

Lovely bird, beautiful plumage!

Re:no such luck (1)

Asmodae (1155077) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221225)

The Parrot Sketch reference isn't +5 funny already? Now THAT'S animal cruelty.

I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220501)

If it's not powered by a RPi, why is it on /.?

Robot goes on parrot slaying rampage (1)

sinequonon (669533) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220555)

No ambiguity here. No, sir.

One feature I really like about this cart... (1)

xerxesVII (707232) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220579)

I wish my car had a toilet in the driver seat so I could crap freely while driving around.

Re:One feature I really like about this cart... (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221015)

oh, THIS!

A thousand times over!

Next step... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220611)

...is to get him into a quadricopter.

primary use for print newspaper today (1)

Chalex (71702) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220627)

And here you see the primary use to which print newspapers are put today. All the dog owners and other pet owners use it to collect their pets' bowel movements.

How about dogs driving full size cars? (2)

madprof (4723) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220657)

Forget parrots in buggies. What about dogs in real cars?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20614593 [bbc.co.uk]

99% sure this is not a hoax.

Robot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220705)

How is this considered a Robot?

Not that cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220715)

Make the buggy powered by the parrots bioelectric enery and then I will be impressed.

Autonomous Docking Mode Activated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year and a half ago | (#42220755)

Autonomous Docking Mode Activated

The parrot has been removed. The computer is now in control.

It's searching for the Base station even as we speak. May God have mercy on us all.

I was hoping this would be about perl 6 but.. (1)

cmdr_tofu (826352) | about a year and a half ago | (#42220885)

this is COOL! And really cute too!

NOT a robot (0)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221021)

If you have to "drive" it, then it is NOT a robot. Robots are, by definition, capable of sensing their environment and make autonomous decisions.

Re:NOT a robot (1)

HellKnite (266374) | about a year and a half ago | (#42221147)

It has sensors to detect when it has bumped into something and automatically retreats. It senses when it is approaching a wall and prevents forward movement. When the parrot was removed it used its camera to locate the "docking station" and navigate its own way there.

Sure, it can be controlled, but it does its own thing too.

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