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Ubuntu 13.04 Will Allow Instant Purchasing, Right From the Dash

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the easy-buy dept.

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sfcrazy writes "Ubuntu is becoming a shopping center. Instead of addressing the queries raised by Stallman and the EFF, Canonical is now pushing for making Ubuntu a shopping cart. With Ubuntu 13.04 Canonical is going one step forward, and soon you will be able to purchase software and music right from the Dash without opening the software center or web browser.This is intended to make the whole experience even more interactive and useful for the end user."

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Unity (5, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42234299)

As the Canonical developer's Unity DE shows, Canonical is not really that interested in the opinions of its current users.

Re:Unity (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234479)

Uh, current Ubuntu user here. I'm all for this.

Use xfce (2)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 2 years ago | (#42234667)

Uh, current Ubuntu user here. I'm all for this.

Current Xubuntu user here (2 desktops, 2 laptops). I don't particularly care how Unity is distorted, other than remarking that this sort of thing ensures I stay away from it. We had Gnome 2 on all the PCs, but switched every one of them to xfce when both Unity and Gnome 3 showed their differing ugliness while testing them in a VM.

Re:Unity (0)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42234731)

I didn't actually say I was against it, I only said that Canonical doesn't care what its user base's opinions are. I actually don't mind this, but an very much against a default behaviour that sends all searches to Amazon.

Re:Unity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235035)

Where's your proof that Canonical doesn't care about its user's opinion? Your opinion != to Ubuntu users' opinion.

Re:Unity (5, Informative)

Volanin (935080) | about 2 years ago | (#42235135)

Current Ubuntu user here as well.
I'm all for this too... but in a ***separate*** shopping lens.

Even Stallman said so:
"[To protect users' privacy] is easy: all it takes is to have separate buttons for network searches and local searches, as earlier versions of Ubuntu did."

Goddamn, having shopping result when I am searching for local files is not only a privacy issue... it is damnright annoying.

Re:Unity (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42235205)

I'm not sure why you're modded as flamebait. It's a valid opinion, and I could see it being useful. My original post has been marked as 'troll' as well, although I suppose it's closer to that than yours is to flamebait. I still think send search data to Amazon is a poorly thought-out move though.

Re:Unity (2)

John Holmes (2619159) | about 2 years ago | (#42234487)

It's following the same course as Microsoft. I'll stick with Linux Mint for now.

Re:Unity (2, Interesting)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 2 years ago | (#42234569)

Well, I'm on 12.04 LTE with Gnome Classic for now. I don't see my next upgrade being Ubuntu.

Re:Unity (2)

SteveFoerster (136027) | about 2 years ago | (#42234777)

Me too. On the other hand, 12.04 works just fine, and it's going to be supported for five years, so it's not like people like us have to make any abrupt decisions. Come August 2017, who knows what the landscape will look like?

Re:Unity (1)

sorensenbill (1931240) | about 2 years ago | (#42234589)

I've been on Mint for the past 4 versions and haven't looked back.

Re:Unity (1)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#42235097)

Is Mint still an Ubuntu derivative or has it started to derive directly from Debian finally?

Re:Unity (2)

ifiwereasculptor (1870574) | about 2 years ago | (#42235145)

Both. There are separate editions.

Re:Unity (5, Informative)

cheesybagel (670288) | about 2 years ago | (#42234843)

Dash -> Privacy

Record Activity: OFF
Include Online Search Results: OFF

Re:Unity (4, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42234985)

Those should be the defaults, in my opinion.

Re:Unity (2)

Culture20 (968837) | about 2 years ago | (#42235003)

Note the wording:
Include Online Search Results =/= Search Online Also
They can still search and give amazon et al your searches, but they just won't show you the results.

Re:Unity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234505)

It's sad that Ubuntu will probably be the most popular distro, yet it will be a security nightmare and being so Cononical will sell services teaching people how to secure it. Similar to what Microsoft does/or did. Only to my worst enemy would i recommend Ubuntu,

Re:Unity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234603)

AC, you should really try Ubuntu! I highly recommend it. (sometimes I just hate myself)

Re:Unity (1)

lsatenstein (949458) | about 2 years ago | (#42234567)

As the Canonical developer's Unity DE shows, Canonical is not really that interested in the opinions of its current users.

Charity begins at home. Ubuntu needs money to cover the cost of all it's offices, staff, and some reserve for growth and support.

If you are not happy about it, switch to another distribution.

Re:Unity (5, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 2 years ago | (#42234647)

MINT is going to get a lot of traffic.

ubuntu annoyed me enough over the last year or two that I've moved.

Re:Unity (2)

InlawBiker (1124825) | about 2 years ago | (#42234757)

By making one questionable move after another we begin to believe Ubuntu's business model has failed. Now they seem to be grasping at straws. They're completely turning their back on the open software that got them here. It doesn't bode well for Linux at all.

Re:Unity (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about 2 years ago | (#42235021)

Why, because the success of Linux rides on the back of Ubuntu?

Canonical current users? (3, Funny)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#42234863)

> Canonical is not really that interested in the opinions of its current users ..

If not satisfied, then why not ask for your money back ..

Re:Canonical current users? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234965)

Or your private data?

Re:Canonical current users? (4, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42234967)

They actually do have a 'send us money' option when downloading now, and many of us have paid for it. I like this approach a lot better than having a privacy invading default setup. I think it would get them a lot more money from their users in the end as well.

well (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234303)

sure am glad I never wasted any time committing code to Ubuntu

Re:well (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234695)

It doesn't matter. The GPL lets them steal your code! That's why I use a CC-No Ubuntu license for all my projects.

First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234319)

Haha penises (_)_)=====D

Re:First (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235075)

Thank you, I have space for one more in my anus [goatse.info] .

Your penis is now under the Goatse Public Licence.

Why is this a problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234323)

I fail to see the problem.

Re:Why is this a problem? (3, Insightful)

Anrego (830717) | about 2 years ago | (#42234375)

It's one of those polarizing subjects. Some see absolutely no problem with this kind of thing, whilst others are mortified by it and can't understand why everyone else is ok with it. Both sides call each other idiots who "just don't get it" for whatever reason, no ones opinion changes, and life goes on.

Re:Why is this a problem? (3, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42234713)

I actually don't have much of a problem with this, but I really dislike them sending searches to Amazon by default. It should be an opt-in behaviour, not default.

Re:Why is this a problem? (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42234823)

By the way, here's how Jono Bacon responded [jonobacon.org] to the criticism from Stallman.

Re:Why is this a problem? (4, Insightful)

Superdarion (1286310) | about 2 years ago | (#42234999)

I read through the whole thing and I can tell you that he said nothing at all. No reason for the decision, no address of the privacy concerns, no nothing. He wrote a huge page of politician dribble.

Re:Why is this a problem? (2)

nullchar (446050) | about 2 years ago | (#42235037)

What a whiny non-response from Jono Bacon. His counter argument to Stallman is: [summarized] "Privacy is personal, there is only one RMS who cares about privacy in his own way, so we can collect your data. Look at Facebook and Apple: see, we're better!".

The community is fine with new features and trying out new things, but we just want the defaults to be sane. Only turn on Amazon searches or Canonical feedback as an op-in mechanism. A default install of any gnu/linux distro should be privacy-aware and not require disabling any features.

Re:Why is this a problem? (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 2 years ago | (#42235051)

It sounds like he's making excuses for their decision. His love of all things Apple does explain a lot as well. Sounds like he's hoping they can develop an OS with an 'ooooh shiny' factor that makes people forget their ideals.

Re:Why is this a problem? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234447)

That's not a problem. The problem is that the Unity interface SUCKS.

And if you're unhappy... (2, Insightful)

skovnymfe (1671822) | about 2 years ago | (#42234325)

... you can just download another distro. Because it's Linux and Linux comes in more flavors than ice cream. Heck if you don't like any of the flavors, make your own. No need to log on Slashdot and moan and cry about how terrible Ubuntu is and how much it reminds you of them terrible yanks uppin Micro$oft yonder, because you don't know anyway. You wouldn't come within 1000 feet of it, right? You despise it, you loathe it, yes? Good.

Re:And if you're unhappy... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234515)

I shouldn't have to research my operating system every year to make sure it hasn't changed it's core principles.

Make my own? What's wrong with you. Go build and fly your own plane so you can bypass TSA the next time you want to visit someone on the other side of the country. Not everyone has infinite time as you seem to have.

Big deal........ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234333)

It's hardly the end of civilisation as we know it..........

sigh... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234339)

And so it begins.

HI bsd!

Re:sigh... (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42234565)

HI bsd!

In other news... [slashdot.org]

I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234341)

I'm not sure that I understand how this makes the whole experience more "interactive." The level of interactivity seems to stay about the same.

Wrong Approach (2)

GeneralTurgidson (2464452) | about 2 years ago | (#42234347)

Ubuntu would make more money by moving towards Red Hats model of licensing instead of their (outrageous) support hours. Their cost model for enterprise support is a huge reason my workplace won't use them.

Re:Wrong Approach (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234439)

Do you have any stats showing this won't make them enough money?

If they go with support then they actually have to provide support and make sure their software works well enough to gain enterprise users. If they go with skimming off normal online purchases, then they only need to get as many random people as possible to buy things through their software. To me, that sounds much easier as people are often fooled by pretty pictures, what they think everyone else is doing, and marketing.

Re:Wrong Approach (1)

philipmather (864521) | about 2 years ago | (#42234711)

Yeah, except until Red Hat spots Canonical making in-roads on their business model and then squishes them...

http://www.trendcaller.com/2009/02/canonical-half-as-revenue-efficient-as.html [trendcaller.com] ...bit out of date but it'd still be suicide for Canonical to compete against Red Hat too directly, too soon, hence the cloud/service strategy (http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/04/29/ubuntu-matt-asay-discusses-canonical-revenue-strategy/) they seem to be heading for I suppose? Unfortunately that's going to get holed below the water-line to an extent by Red Hat's OpenShift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenShift) and I just don't believe there's enough revenue in "Linux Desktop as a Service" to make it viable.

To be fair I'm probably a Red Hat fan-boi, I respect what Canonical are doing but... I just can't see how their going to make it work in the long run. :^/

Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234351)

"When the user searches her own local files for a string using the Ubuntu desktop, Ubuntu sends that string to one of Canonical's servers. (Canonical is the company that develops Ubuntu.)" from -> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu [slashdot.org]

* Says all I needed to see... & though Mr. Stallman MAY be a wee bit "odd" in some things he does or has done or said? He's not "off" here... no way.

APK

P.S.=> Thus, I suppose the next time I try Linux, it will be MINT vs. KUbuntu (my former favorite)...

... apk

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234421)

Actually, his best point is this:
"free software won't spy on you, unless it's Ubuntu,"

Ubuntu's actions make all free software look bad.

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234629)

Which proves the "money men" used devs for free, only to reveal their true plans later (now). Getting a lot of good intentioned people creating the Operating System for them to profit by, and screw those that did the actual work.

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (2)

YurB (2583187) | about 2 years ago | (#42234635)

I agree with you. All these ads, "for purchase" software, give-us-money-with-one-click stuff just takes away the spirit that was always important to me: it used to make me feel like they (the individual developers) really want the software to be useful because they do it for themselves and/or their close people, and because they just love doing it. Now Ubuntu is showing an example of doing free software the way proprietary software is done: for some abstract success of some corpocation. But luckily it's still free software every one can fork. P.S. Actually, I've newer used Ubuntu, because this extra-user-friendliness was looking like too much for me. Despite this, they've undoubtely made a significant contribution to development of desktop gnu/linux (and now we have Mint, xubuntu, kubuntu which are built on foundations provided by Ubuntu).

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (4, Insightful)

thereitis (2355426) | about 2 years ago | (#42234523)

This is an absolutely unacceptable spyware 'feature' from Canonical. I'm sad to say they've obviously lost the plot. Thankfully there are other Linux distros that behave much better.

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234527)

But most importantly of all.. Is Kubuntu or Mint better for editing hosts files?

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234735)

Get on topic troll.

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235175)

host files are always on topic

APK

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234561)

It's hardly spyware, though, since the Dash delineates between local and online results. Users know that their search has been submitted online when they get results from online sources like Amazon, etc. This is how it works with the Music and Video Lenses in 12.04 Unity, so this is really nothing new to Ubuntu users. You may not want to perform an online search all the time when looking for a particular document stored on you system--that's a legitimate preference-- but it's not being done surreptitiously like Stallman alleges.

/. says differently (per article I used)... apk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234709)

"the Dash delineates between local and online results. Users know that their search has been submitted online when they get results from online sources like Amazon, etc." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 09, @12:52PM (#42234561)

That's not what the article implied that I quoted from here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3304601&cid=42234351 [slashdot.org] in fact? It was MORE THAN IMPLIED - it was stated, verbatim!

* Did the article submitter OR the editors here make a mistake then, here -> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu [slashdot.org]

?

(Thanks for answering...)

APK

P.S.=> Once more - Taking the quote from the source I used ( a /. article ) here into account (the post you replied to) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3304601&cid=42234351 [slashdot.org] :

When they start using what you do locally? That's (to myself @ least) like putting a surveillance camera into your home - principle's the same imo!

... apk

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234655)

I installed Cinnamon on Ubuntu 12.10 after tiring of Unity. I did it before all this came out but it takes care of the spyware issue without having to go all the way to Mint (which I might do on the next pulse anyway).

Re:Stallman has 1 point that's important... apk (1)

Kelzar (1642061) | about 2 years ago | (#42234753)

Yeah, I think I'll ditch Ubuntu soon. I used to upgrade every six months, but that stopped after 10.04. Between GNOME 3 and Unity, I've just decided to stay where I am - until now. Upgrading to 12.04 as we speak, but I wouldn't be surprised if I migrate to another distro soon. I figure I'll give 12.04 a chance before I commit to something else. The direction that Ubuntu has been going for the past couple of years just isn't a direction I'm comfortable with. That has become very clear with this whole Amazon deal. Even if you can opt-out, the very fact it exists demonstrates Canonical's priorities. Ubuntu set me free from Microsoft in 2008 and I hate to disavow it now, but there's no sense in being loyal to a product for the sake of what it used to be.

However, in a bizarre decision (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234387)

All purchases will require the use of BitCoin.

purchase burfgort (1)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | about 2 years ago | (#42234411)

grololololololopppp thwteuhjjj uBUNTu!

Re:purchase burfgort (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234619)

Do you have some kind of need to show up like a clown?

Time for a change.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234413)

All good things come to an end. Time to move on. I think I'll give Slackware another spin. I read Slackware will run on the Raspberry Pi as well.

E17 has a big day on 12/21... and not because of the Mayans. Looks like it is time to shop around. Plenty of options.

It's their binary. (3, Insightful)

Jartan (219704) | about 2 years ago | (#42234429)

How they want to compile it is their choice. That's the entire point of open source.

Re:It's their binary. (1)

ohnocitizen (1951674) | about 2 years ago | (#42234529)

Its certainly part of the point of open source. We are free to criticize it, fork it, and move away from it. That too is part of the point of open source. Its a bazaar (though sometimes it feels like competing open air cathedrals).

reminds me of the late '80s (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234437)

When two tech companies were battling for control of the personal computer (no, Apple wasn't one of them.. they were stuck in their 5 percent niche for decades), people said, well we should go with the hip upstart instead of the greedy monopolist. Let's give the new guy on the block a chance to make the world a better place!

That upstart was Microsoft.

Good for Ubuntu and Some Users (4, Insightful)

ninetyninebottles (2174630) | about 2 years ago | (#42234501)

From the Canonical Blog Post [canonical.com] on the new feature:

Privacy is extremely important to Canonical. The data we collect is not user-identifiable (we automatically anonymize user logs and that information is never available to the teams delivering services to end users), we make users aware of what data will be collected and which third party services will be queried through a notice right in the Dash, and we only collect data that allows us to deliver a great search experience to Ubuntu users. We also recognize that there is always a minority of users who prefer complete data protection, often choosing to avoid services like Google, Facebook or Twitter for those reasons – and for those users, we have made it dead easy to switch the online search tools off with a simple toggle in settings.

So while I think the privacy concerns with sending data to Canonical when you'e doing searches is significant, so long as the user is aware and has the option, more power to them. I don't think I want to integrate my desktop and network search, but I certainly see a mass market that may want this. Depending upon how easy it is to create and configure these "scopes" to plug into this system it might be a great way to build customized searching without the need for Google to know everything about me.

I think people are too reactionary when it comes to both privacy and commercialism. From the previous posts you'd think this was a mandatory feature and Canonical was selling user data or something. They seem to be responsible players here creating cool tech that some of us may not want. I see nothing for me to get upset about.

Re:Good for Ubuntu and Some Users (1)

Kelzar (1642061) | about 2 years ago | (#42234791)

I think 'opt-in' would be better than 'opt-out'. When you radically change the way something works, you should do your best to make sure that the user understands what changes are being implemented. I think there would be much less backlash if there was, for instance, an option during installation/upgrade with an info bubble explaining the feature.

Ubuntu is done. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234507)

I was thinking of switching away from Windows via either Ubuntu or PC-BSD this upcoming year. Thanks for making my choice easy.
Yes people are free to switch to a different linux distro, and I'll do that within the BSD jail system.

Re:Ubuntu is done. (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42234663)

Heh. I wonder if BSDs are taking the crown of "alternative operating system" from Linux, while Linux becomes an actual mainstream thing.

Ubuntu News Ubuntu 13.04 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234509)

how about making a version where all its features actually work? no massive vpn problems for instance, its features actually work for the end user straight from the box

This is a good thing (4, Insightful)

GPLHost-Thomas (1330431) | about 2 years ago | (#42234517)

For each of such change we're seeing in Ubuntu, people are coming back to Debian. Welcome back!

Re:This is a good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234645)

Yes, welcome back to the nightmare known as Gnome3! Bwhahahahaha!

Obvious correction needed (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 2 years ago | (#42234533)

"This is intended to make the whole experience even more interactive and useful for Canonical and their online retailer partners."

What's pretty clear is that Canonical is now trying to cash in. The good news is that it's easy to switch to another distro.

Because if there's one thing I need from an OS... (1)

Zadaz (950521) | about 2 years ago | (#42234541)

... It's for the ability to east the separation of me from my money. I constantly think about it, every time I use a computer. "The one thing lacking in this OS, the one fault of the developer, is that not once did they think about my pocketbook and how it's too full. They really should divert development time from other features to make it easier to spend money. I really don't do enough of that, and there are so few ways for me to do it."

Dammit, and I was just getting to like Ubuntu as a mature competitor to the commercial offerings. I had even convinced a few friends to try it. Now I'll look like a fucking shill.

ubotnet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234553)

Linux, apart from a few extremist distros like Gnewsense and Trisquel are all part of the same botnet that Apple and Microsoft are in. This post sponsored by GNU/Goatse foundation.

Posted from my Windows 8 Pro PC.

rofl (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234557)

This is hilarious. It took me like 2 hours to switch from OS-X to ubuntu. It would take me probably only one hour to switch to any other linux distibution of my choice.

I switched to Mint 14 Cinnamon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234559)

...and didn't let the door hit me in the arse on the way out either. True, most versions of Mint are based off Ubuntu, but once they iron out some of the wrinkles I'll make the transition to Mint Debian and bid a permanent farewell to those sellout pricks at Canonical.

It's a shame (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234625)

It's a shame Canonical is going this way. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and find I like Unity. At least I like Unity 2-D, the 3-D version doesn't work properly on any of my machines. In the past few months Canonical has introduced spyware to new versions and dropped Unity 2-D (the one that works). This effectively kills Ubuntu has a possible upgrade path for me. My next upgrade, while possibly Ubuntu-base, will not run Unity or its Dash.

Countermeasures (2)

Framboise (521772) | about 2 years ago | (#42234651)

If Canonical becomes that much unfriendly, some users will be encouraged to setup a light daemon generating a multiple of random queries for each real ones. Then Canonical will try to filter out the noise, and the escalation with more clever scripts inundating their servers with trash will continue :)

Re:Countermeasures (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234879)

Jesus, you're a sociopathic fuck. Why not just use a different distro? Nobody's holding a gun to your head to use Ubuntu.

Embarrassing (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234653)

This almost seems like a sick joke at this point. Not only are they loading up the system with advertising, but it's so poorly implemented at this point that Canonical is slowly becoming a caricature of modern software companies. What does anyone have to gain from this? When did opening a web browser and typing "amazon.com" become too much work? Have we reached the point where the only thing people want out of their computers is a shopping/advertising hub?

Seriously, this fails on so many levels that I'm completely baffled. This is supposed to be a major new feature, but it obviously will become completely non-functional when you get disconnected from the net. Ignoring all the other problems, why is there a major OS-level feature that works COMPLETELY differently depending on whether or not you are connected to the internet? I'm trying but I can't find any way to stretch this so that it actually makes sense.

Money (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42234683)

It simply seems that Ubuntu has seriously started to look into ways for collecting more money. Remember, it started with the donation page being shown when you download the ISO. What do you think, will more robust money backing make better open source software?

Re:Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234741)

will more robust money backing make better open source software?

Like sending your file search strings to Amazon? That's not better software, that's worse software.

Re:Money (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 2 years ago | (#42234763)

I agree. Specifically, that makes Ubuntu less free software, by the definition of RMS, as a program having malicious features.

CentOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234691)

Switched to CentOS 6 as my desktop environment. Haven't looked back.

All negative here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234717)

The aim of Canonical (Ubuntu) is to go mainstream. Create a painless OS. They'll need money for that.
I'm using the software center, the music store, and I think the sync and DE are great. The dash.. well, I did not found the Amazon search so good, but I think the entire dash search could use some improvement, so it's getting there, slowly.
I'm personally not typing my diary into the dash, so I don't really care if it's transmitted to Ubuntu and then processed by some computer program.
I don't do so much for Gmail either, though they'd have much more information on me.
Truth is, if you have to say something: It's most likely noone cares. If you don't actually have to say something, much less.

Come on folks, most Android applications want to know all your information, including your contacts, your personal info, your location and the preferred color of your underwear.
That's why I don't want to buy a smartphone, all of them want to do this, some to exploit you in ways that harm you.
Some anonymous processing of my desktop search (which I actually do rarely - I'm a geek, mostly in the terminal, if anything), which I can disable easily in the system configuration - there is worse.

Goodbye Ubuntu (1)

Nimless (2782015) | about 2 years ago | (#42234743)

Ubuntu it's officially now a Kindle with flickering videos and no games. Ubuntu, Linux for human beings turned into Linux for consumer beings.

Biased Summary (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234775)

Summary is obviously written by a member of the EFF to make it sound like Ubuntu is raping user's privacy.

How the Dash already works (4, Interesting)

David Gerard (12369) | about 2 years ago | (#42234789)

"I wanted to update/install my nvidia drivers, so I opened the dash and typed "drivers". IT DISPLAYED GOLF CLUBS on sale at Amazon! [google.com] "

Presumably the new version will buy them for you as well.

How internet searches work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235187)

Since you already had a specific set of driver in mind, why didn't you type "nvidia drivers" in the dash? Or is this the first time you've used software to perform an internet search?

Available Unity Lenses to Try out (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42234805)

Maybe people should try out some other lenses to see how the Dash is supposed to work

What Lens for Untiy are available?
Ask Ubuntu (actually this lens also allows search everything on StackExchange)

YouTube Scope & Lens

Dash-based Calculator

Google Books

Ubuntu Cities Scope (time, temperature, map, wind speed)

Wikipedia Lens

Google Docs Lens

Pirate Bay Scope & Torrent Lens

Adult Lens & YouPorn Scope

Web Sources Lens

Recoll Lens (Recoll is a full text search desktop tool which indexes the contents of many file formats including OpenOffice, MS Office, PostScript, MP3 and other audio files, JPEG and more. Besides regular searches, Recoll also lets you perform some advanced operations like searching for the author, file size, file format as well as operators like "AND" or "OR".)

Tomboy Lens

Gwibber Lens for Unity

Reddit Lens

Unity Graphic Design lens (Unity Graphic Design lens is a specialized tool, aimed towards designers, acting as a global place that can easily offer various resources needed for design, all in the comfort of the Dash.)

SSHSearch-Lens (his lens parses the ~/.ssh/config and ~/.ssh/known_hosts file to simple start the gnome-terminal and open a ssh connection with the fitting host-name and/or user.)

Unity Calendar Lens

Cooking Lens

Grooveshark Lens

Unity Dictionary Lens

Unity DuckDuckGo

Unity Web History lens: Firefox and Chrome History in Unity Dash

Unity Bliss Lens (This lens puts applications into category folders in the dash, similar to the old GNOME 2 Applications menu categories.)

Unity News Lens

Unity Binary Clock

Spotify scope

Pidgin Lens

Find The Perfect Time to Stargaze

There's more, but that should give a good idea that the Dash and Unity are more than just commercialized software to make money for Canonical.

you know what would be cool (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#42234969)

if Ubuntu and all its variants could detect a fucking 1280x1024 @ 60hz monitor without having to hand edit a depreciated text file that does not exist like it did in ubuntu 9

ya know, before you went all retarded?

Re:you know what would be cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235129)

depreciated

The word you're looking for is "deprecated". Notice the lack of the "i" and the different pronunciation (hard c instead of soft c, no i sound).

Who uses Ubuntu anyway? Explanation: (1, Insightful)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#42235023)

The boneheaded decisions of Canonical, plus the existence of Mint Linux, have all but decimated the Ubuntu userbase. Yes, I know there must be some Ubuntu users out there still, but they're somewhere at the fringe of society: you know nobody in your circle of friends, colleagues, family or acquaintances who uses Ubuntu.

It's like IE: who the fuck uses Internet Explorer at this stage? Yeah, there must be people using it, according to various webstats... but nobody know those characters.

IOW, Ubuntu has become the IE of the Linux distro world: they exist somewhere out there, but nobody gives a shit about them, except malware writers.

Ubuntu sucks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42235027)

I`m Ubuntu user since few years. Now I see that Linux idea, starting to be shitty part of global shopping business.
Time to change distro. I think Linux Mint is a good candidate for Linux Desktop.

Ubuntu sucks...

There is no problem (1)

guitarMan666 (1388859) | about 2 years ago | (#42235057)

This is just the direction that Ubuntu wants to go in which is good for them if they want to create a consumer operating system to compete with the likes of Android, OS X and Windows. I personally don't find the new interface all that offensive, but nor do I use it (I'm an E17 guy). I do, however, recommend it to others looking for an alternative to Windows and they seem to like it more often than not. In the case of "not" I generally point them to KDE or XFCE. The beauty of Linux operating systems is that there are hundreds (thousands?) out there to pick from and they're customizable. You can always uninstall this feature. I must state though that Ubuntu should have made it "opt in" instead of a default behavior.

So if you don't like what Ubuntu is doing, go with something else. Now, I understand RMS's complaints here and would say that using this is tantamount to using something like a mainstream OS, but I have to argue that is what Ubuntu is going for and people like RMS and other Free Software advocates are no longer its target demographic. It is now an OS for the average Joe (or at least trying to be) and the Linux people who are so offended by this have the many derivatives of Ubuntu as well as a dazzling array of other distros to choose from and to direct others to.

Canonical, home of Linux vaporware. (1)

Animats (122034) | about 2 years ago | (#42235163)

Linux Mint (2, Insightful)

davydagger (2566757) | about 2 years ago | (#42235193)

I'll say this before and I'll say it again, if you haven't ditched Ubuntu for Mint, now is the time
http://linuxmint.com/

Its also funny to note that install base of Ubuntu has taken a nose dive in the last year(two?). with mint taking up the slack.

I wonder why.
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